It's the way the industry is heading. If they want to continue to expand then they can't only focus on a singular console platform with exclusive games.
Xbox demonstrated that there is more profit waiting out there and Sony has to pursue that as well.
Not really shocking. It seems safe to assume this game was facing some serious development issues like the other cancelations.
It is another case of xbox needlessly showing us a tease for a game way too early. Hopefully now that they have a legitimate pipeline of games they won't ever be so desperate to fill out a showcase that we get concepts of games. Can't really blame xbox because they were hurting so bad for games at the time but they are currently sitting pretty on that front.
I don't think people realize that they dont actually want this feature. Are you really going to fly all the way to the next planet instead of just fast traveling? Would you fly if it takes 10 minutes or longer? I think they gave us the preferred travel system the first time.
I really like forza motorsport. It would be a shame if they only made horizon games.
I'm not too worried about how many tweets they send. I'm betting a lot of the noise on social media about this is from people who haven't thought about this game since it launched.
Age verification (if required by law) should be done on the platform once and cover all games. It shouldn't be up to each individual game to verify your age.
Hopefully this UK nonsense doesn't go beyond the UK.
Still waiting for a sale but very excited for this one. I generally don't pay launch prices for games, I have too many games in the backlog or wishlisted that I don't need the newest thing.
Conquering fomo was the best thing I did. I probably buy 4 times as many games with the same budget.
I am looking forward to Battlefield 6 but Black Ops 7 launching on gamepass is hard to beat. I know I will play call of duty on GP, not sure if I'm buying battlefield at launch yet. Depending on how i like the beta and how the reception is at launch, I might end up waiting for the gamepass addition whenever EA puts it in EA play.
Battlefield 2042 got to a really good place, it will be interesting to see where this one is at launch.
I am betting the older big titles come over sooner than others. Spider man 1 and miles morales would be the most logical choices but I could see last of us 1, uncharted collection, ratchet and clank, or Horizon zero dawn too.
It makes no sense to keep these older games exclusive at this point. They have run their course on playstation. Sell them for $70 on xbox and if even 5% of xbox users buy them you are talking a pretty big return. There is more potential for sales on xbox than there is in the endless remaster cycle they have had for these games.
If you aren't trying to get as many sales as possible then what is the point of doing multiplat at all? The big games are the ones that will do that.
His insistence that it is actually a game, hard to explain, risky, and now either love or hate makes me think this one will not be for me. Every word said about this game has been a red flag. All signs point to me watching 30 minutes of a live stream and never thinking about this game again but hopefully im wrong.
I got it pre installed on my ROG Ally. I hope I can find time to play it while at the cabin this weekend but also hope it doesn't consume all my time while there. I'm really excited for this one, I loved the first one.
Yeah I'm a little worried about this game. It had a playable demo when revealed SIX years ago. Now we are supposed to treat news that the game will again be playable at a game show as a big deal.
I would love to get some details about the development of this game. What happened, what is the total cost up to, etc.
I would expect the ones that have the most potential to sell copies will be the priority. I would have to think spiderman, the last of us, uncharted, etc.
Their current pc approach will probably be the model for xbox/nindy eventually. Approximately one year alone on playstation and then a shift to everywhere else. They probably tighten that exclusivity window up as time goes on.
The multiplayer is perfect in that game. Any change would be a negative in my book. I imagine they had a good reason to not use unreal if it was being considered.
Halo infinite is an awesome game. I will die on the hill that Halo infinite and Starfield are two of the best games of this generation. I still play each pretty regularly.
It seems like a waste to spend so much time and money on a 60fps patch releasing 1 year later. This game doesn't need 60 fps and doesnt have much for replay value if you already played it. I don't see many people on xbox or pc going back to this one.
They should have just done a simple port to playstation and moved on.
I buy xbox games that have the play anywhere functionality and are on sale. I'm not interested in games that are locked to the single console device. If all games were play anywhere, xbox would be my preferred store.
Otherwise pc is currently the preferred platform, i spend plenty of money on steam/epic and GOG. That's where I buy all playstations games too.
Gamepass doesn't prevent me from spending way more than I should on "owning" games
I don't expect it to ever get fully utilized. It will probably be supported far into the next generation as well. Games take way too long to develop and cost way too much to really push the boundaries of any system.
Add in the desire for developers to target handhelds like switch 2 and mid level pcs, we probably won't see much of a leap in games for a long time.
Limbo and Inside might be delisted soon too. They only announced the GOG versions are being delisted without giving a reason but all signs point to a legal dispute between the founders of the studio.
@Millionski the whole "why would they even bother competing with (product x)?" is the most anti-innovation take ever. Thankfully xbox isn't thinking that way.
Having a better pc store where all the xbox store games are natively playable on a very capable console, pc/pc handheld, and streaming is a very appealing prospect. That is why gamepass is one of my favorite things in gaming, I can play the same save seamlessly in my office on the high end rig, on the sofa of the living room, in bed or traveling on my Rog Ally, etc.
They don't need to overtake steam (that would never happen) but they can live along side it just like Epic and GOG do. Just like they already do with Nintendo and Playstation, they dont have a realistic chance of overtaking either of them. It would really just be merging the gaming portion of the windows store into the xbox app and making the xbox games compatible which they seem to be doing.
Steam is rumored to be working on a "console" as well. I don't get why people would want xbox to limit itself to one device, give me as many ways as possible to buy games everywhere.
(Of course, the biggest threat to Microsoft is losing the windows stronghold as market leading OS. They need to fend off Steam OS, Linux, etc. Xbox can help them do that.)
It's not actually microsoft or xbox sharing this image. Its one person on his personal LinkedIn account. Is it a bad pic? Yes, but we can't treat this dudes LinkedIn profile as an official xbox or MS ad. Honestly, doesn't sound too bad to work for this guy, he probably wouldn't notice you taking it easy on the clock.
This would have happened with or without layoffs. This is a pretty long reach to try to connect the two. It probably would have happened with or without the massive AI investment from Microsoft.
I like where it sounds like xbox hardware is headed. I am hoping it gets to a point where the full xbox store will be there on any pc and any pc store will be available on the xbox hardware.
The recent steam reviews (over 21 thousand reviews) have it at "mostly negative" but the overall (over 200 thousand reviews) is still "very positive."
Apparently the console release forced them to censor the game on pc as well and pc players are considering this a worse version of the game. Im not sure if I will play this one yet but censoring a game everywhere because one specific region or platform requires it always bugs me.
I have been in a racing mood for a few weeks now. Usually I have one racing game installed to play here and there but the genre has taken over. I am playing need for speed heat, forza motorsport, hot wheels unleashed, nascar '15, forza horizon 3, aqua moto racing utopia, and far cry 4.
It would be a really poor decision to take an exclusivity deal as a third party publisher in today's landscape. Those deals should be rare going forward. Good riddance.
I love Starfield. I have replayed it a couple times now after my initial barrage of 4 playthroughs. My 2023 goty and an all around great game.
I would like to see an update or dlc dedicated to base building/mining. That seemed like it was so close to being really fun. There could be a good story around building up your own space empire.
I disagree. If a game is still in a bad spot after 7-10 years it's time to cut the cord. If it is still in a bad spot after so long it will probably never make it to a good place. You can't just give them an endless time frame and budget on something that simply is not working.
I actually think xbox gave Rare a strangely long leash for a game that infamously didn't have a proper direction or gameplay hook years into development. That game never should have been shown and should have gotten axed a long time ago. It is surprising they were given so much time to turn that into something.
I think playstation realized that mlb forcing the show to go multiplat was the best thing to happen to the franchise. They are going to release more multiplat games going forward.
It is ironic that the company that "trains consumers not to buy games" is selling more games than anyone else.
I think the 360 hardware failures were more impactful on the xbox one's poor reception than any of the one's issues. They managed to convince the majority of console gamers to buy their 360 console then gave them the worst experience imaginable. Its not surprising that everyone jumped ship the next generation. The 360 destroyed xbox's credibility big time and it never fully recovered.
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Re: Talking Point: Are You Playing Assassin's Creed Mirage On Xbox Game Pass?
I paid $20 for this one a while ago. It was decent but forgetful. I have already forgotten most of the story. 75 to 80 seems about right.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (August 9-10)
Battlefield 6, forza motorsport, saints row 3, and the last couple chapters of Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Re: Pick One: What's Your Favourite Battlefield Game On Xbox?
Metro on Battlefield 3 was when online gaming peaked.
Re: Grounded 2 Is Off To An Impressive Start On Steam & Xbox Game Pass
I really like this game. I'm trying to pace myself a bit so I'm not burned out by the time 1.0 or the next big updates drop.
Grounded has quickly become one of my favorite gaming franchises.
Re: Sony SVP Says PlayStation Is 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
It's the way the industry is heading. If they want to continue to expand then they can't only focus on a singular console platform with exclusive games.
Xbox demonstrated that there is more profit waiting out there and Sony has to pursue that as well.
Re: Forza Motorsport Team 'Assures' Players That Support Will Continue
They have the game in a good spot right now. Hopefully the new content continues but if not, it is still a very good sim racer.
Re: Xbox Is Officially 'Stopping' Development On First-Party Game Contraband
Not really shocking. It seems safe to assume this game was facing some serious development issues like the other cancelations.
It is another case of xbox needlessly showing us a tease for a game way too early. Hopefully now that they have a legitimate pipeline of games they won't ever be so desperate to fill out a showcase that we get concepts of games. Can't really blame xbox because they were hurting so bad for games at the time but they are currently sitting pretty on that front.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
Sony is clearly seeing the results of xbox games on their store and seem to be very interested in getting in on that sweet multiplatform cash.
Hopefully it won't be too much longer until exclusives are a thing of the past.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Mafia: The Old Country
Sounds promising. I will definitely pick this one up at some point, probably when it hits the $20-30 range.
Maybe its expectation bias but I often find the 70-80 scores on metacritic are more enjoyable for me than the 90+ scores.
Re: Rumour: Starfield Could Be Getting Interplanetary Travel Ahead Of Expansion 2 On Xbox
I don't think people realize that they dont actually want this feature. Are you really going to fly all the way to the next planet instead of just fast traveling? Would you fly if it takes 10 minutes or longer? I think they gave us the preferred travel system the first time.
Re: Expedition 33 Dev On Turn-Based JRPGs: They Became 'Uncool' In Xbox 360 Era, Still Haven't Fully Recovered
Once I got into tactical turn based rpgs like fire emblem I have had trouble getting into the stationary turn based rpgs.
Re: Xbox Dev Turn 10 Goes Dark As Questions Remain Over The Future Of Forza Motorsport
I really like forza motorsport. It would be a shame if they only made horizon games.
I'm not too worried about how many tweets they send. I'm betting a lot of the noise on social media about this is from people who haven't thought about this game since it launched.
Re: GTA Insider Shares First Look At Age Verification Checks For GTA Online
Age verification (if required by law) should be done on the platform once and cover all games. It shouldn't be up to each individual game to verify your age.
Hopefully this UK nonsense doesn't go beyond the UK.
Re: Talking Point: So, Are You Buying Mafia: The Old Country On Xbox At Its $50 Price Point?
Still waiting for a sale but very excited for this one. I generally don't pay launch prices for games, I have too many games in the backlog or wishlisted that I don't need the newest thing.
Conquering fomo was the best thing I did. I probably buy 4 times as many games with the same budget.
Re: 'Days Gone' Tweet Attracts The Attention Of Xbox Fans, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
The franchise that Sony deemed unworthy of a sequel would not be the one Sony chooses to go multiplatform.
Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Addition In July 2025?
Grounded 2 by a wide margin. Great game that will only get better.
Re: Report: BioShock Remake Cancelled As Upcoming Sequel Hits Development Troubles
I always felt bioshock 1 didn't need a remake. It holds up great as it is.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (August 2-3)
Grounded 2 and forza motorsport mostly. Also still plugging away at fire Emblem three houses.
Re: Talking Point: Battlefield 6 Or Black Ops 7, Which Xbox FPS Are You Looking Forward To Most?
I am looking forward to Battlefield 6 but Black Ops 7 launching on gamepass is hard to beat. I know I will play call of duty on GP, not sure if I'm buying battlefield at launch yet. Depending on how i like the beta and how the reception is at launch, I might end up waiting for the gamepass addition whenever EA puts it in EA play.
Battlefield 2042 got to a really good place, it will be interesting to see where this one is at launch.
Re: Rumour: Sony Is Planning To Bring More PS5 Games To Xbox
I am betting the older big titles come over sooner than others. Spider man 1 and miles morales would be the most logical choices but I could see last of us 1, uncharted collection, ratchet and clank, or Horizon zero dawn too.
It makes no sense to keep these older games exclusive at this point. They have run their course on playstation. Sell them for $70 on xbox and if even 5% of xbox users buy them you are talking a pretty big return. There is more potential for sales on xbox than there is in the endless remaster cycle they have had for these games.
If you aren't trying to get as many sales as possible then what is the point of doing multiplat at all? The big games are the ones that will do that.
Re: Hideo Kojima Says We're Either Going To Love Or Hate His Xbox-Published Game 'OD'
His insistence that it is actually a game, hard to explain, risky, and now either love or hate makes me think this one will not be for me. Every word said about this game has been a red flag. All signs point to me watching 30 minutes of a live stream and never thinking about this game again but hopefully im wrong.
Re: 'Xbox PC' Gets Renamed Again As Microsoft Tries To Figure Out The Perfect Branding
It sounds worse off the tongue but it implies more of what I want from xbox. I want the full xbox experience on pc not a separate pc xbox product.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Annual Revenue Nears $5 Billion For First Time, Says Microsoft CEO
Will this finally put the awful "its unsustainable" takes to bed?
Re: Grounded 2 Early Access Impressions Are In Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Launch
I got it pre installed on my ROG Ally. I hope I can find time to play it while at the cabin this weekend but also hope it doesn't consume all my time while there. I'm really excited for this one, I loved the first one.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Still Hyped For Hollow Knight: Silksong On Xbox Game Pass?
Yeah I'm a little worried about this game. It had a playable demo when revealed SIX years ago. Now we are supposed to treat news that the game will again be playable at a game show as a big deal.
I would love to get some details about the development of this game. What happened, what is the total cost up to, etc.
Re: Talking Point: So, What Other PS5 Games Do You Want To See Come To Xbox?
I would expect the ones that have the most potential to sell copies will be the priority. I would have to think spiderman, the last of us, uncharted, etc.
Their current pc approach will probably be the model for xbox/nindy eventually. Approximately one year alone on playstation and then a shift to everywhere else. They probably tighten that exclusivity window up as time goes on.
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Wuchang: Fallen Feathers On Xbox Game Pass?
Souls-likes have reached the saturation point for me. I'm not interested in this one.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 26-27)
I tried oblivion remake again and it seems better now. I think its finally playable. I'm also playing some spiderman 2 and forza motorsport.
Re: Talking Point: Would Halo Infinite Have Been A Bigger Success Using Unreal Engine 5?
The multiplayer is perfect in that game. Any change would be a negative in my book. I imagine they had a good reason to not use unreal if it was being considered.
Halo infinite is an awesome game. I will die on the hill that Halo infinite and Starfield are two of the best games of this generation. I still play each pretty regularly.
Re: Battlefield 6 Price & Release Date Leak Ahead Of 2025 Xbox Launch
2042 ended up being really good. Hopefully they can carry over the final product of that one into this new one. No bad start this time.
Re: Hellblade 2's 60FPS Mode Required Lots Of Work, New Breakdown Explains
It seems like a waste to spend so much time and money on a 60fps patch releasing 1 year later. This game doesn't need 60 fps and doesnt have much for replay value if you already played it. I don't see many people on xbox or pc going back to this one.
They should have just done a simple port to playstation and moved on.
Re: Indiana Jones Team Confirms Multiple Games In Development, 'Excited' For Its Future
I hope wolfenstein is not too far off. Indy was a fun game but I prefer their wolfenstein games.
Re: Talking Point: As A Game Pass Subscriber, Do You Still Spend Money In Xbox Sales?
I buy xbox games that have the play anywhere functionality and are on sale. I'm not interested in games that are locked to the single console device. If all games were play anywhere, xbox would be my preferred store.
Otherwise pc is currently the preferred platform, i spend plenty of money on steam/epic and GOG. That's where I buy all playstations games too.
Gamepass doesn't prevent me from spending way more than I should on "owning" games
Re: 25 Of The Best Xbox Play Anywhere Games In The Summer Sale 2025
I would recommend Hot Wheels Unleashed 2. Great game.
Play Anywhere has me buying xbox games again. Awesome feature.
Re: Opinion: Xbox Series X Still Hasn't Been Fully Utilised Yet, But 2026 Could Be The Year
I don't expect it to ever get fully utilized. It will probably be supported far into the next generation as well. Games take way too long to develop and cost way too much to really push the boundaries of any system.
Add in the desire for developers to target handhelds like switch 2 and mid level pcs, we probably won't see much of a leap in games for a long time.
Re: John Wick Hex Is Being Permanently Delisted On The Xbox Store This Week
Limbo and Inside might be delisted soon too. They only announced the GOG versions are being delisted without giving a reason but all signs point to a legal dispute between the founders of the studio.
Something to keep an eye on.
Re: Starfield DLC Reportedly Still In The Works Alongside The Elder Scrolls 6
I like the sound of this. I am always looking for an excuse to dive back into this game. One of my recent favorites.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Millionski the whole "why would they even bother competing with (product x)?" is the most anti-innovation take ever. Thankfully xbox isn't thinking that way.
Having a better pc store where all the xbox store games are natively playable on a very capable console, pc/pc handheld, and streaming is a very appealing prospect. That is why gamepass is one of my favorite things in gaming, I can play the same save seamlessly in my office on the high end rig, on the sofa of the living room, in bed or traveling on my Rog Ally, etc.
They don't need to overtake steam (that would never happen) but they can live along side it just like Epic and GOG do. Just like they already do with Nintendo and Playstation, they dont have a realistic chance of overtaking either of them. It would really just be merging the gaming portion of the windows store into the xbox app and making the xbox games compatible which they seem to be doing.
Steam is rumored to be working on a "console" as well. I don't get why people would want xbox to limit itself to one device, give me as many ways as possible to buy games everywhere.
(Of course, the biggest threat to Microsoft is losing the windows stronghold as market leading OS. They need to fend off Steam OS, Linux, etc. Xbox can help them do that.)
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Fiendish-Beaver only the play anywhere titles and gamepass games can be played natively on the xbox pc app.
Re: Xbox Is Using The Most Ridiculous AI Image To Advertise New Jobs
It's not actually microsoft or xbox sharing this image. Its one person on his personal LinkedIn account. Is it a bad pic? Yes, but we can't treat this dudes LinkedIn profile as an official xbox or MS ad. Honestly, doesn't sound too bad to work for this guy, he probably wouldn't notice you taking it easy on the clock.
This would have happened with or without layoffs. This is a pretty long reach to try to connect the two. It probably would have happened with or without the massive AI investment from Microsoft.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Fiendish-Beaver you can purchase games there but can't play the majority of them.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
I like where it sounds like xbox hardware is headed. I am hoping it gets to a point where the full xbox store will be there on any pc and any pc store will be available on the xbox hardware.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The 'Ready Or Not' Reviews Are Saying Ahead Of Its Xbox Release
The recent steam reviews (over 21 thousand reviews) have it at "mostly negative" but the overall (over 200 thousand reviews) is still "very positive."
Apparently the console release forced them to censor the game on pc as well and pc players are considering this a worse version of the game. Im not sure if I will play this one yet but censoring a game everywhere because one specific region or platform requires it always bugs me.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 12-13)
I have been in a racing mood for a few weeks now. Usually I have one racing game installed to play here and there but the genre has taken over. I am playing need for speed heat, forza motorsport, hot wheels unleashed, nascar '15, forza horizon 3, aqua moto racing utopia, and far cry 4.
Re: Rumour: Halo 1 Remake/Remaster Started Development In 2023, May Not Include Multiplayer
Skipping multiplayer would be a mistake.
This also screams free update to previous owners on xbox and an excuse to get the game on playstation/switch like a lot of their recent remasters.
Re: Final Fantasy Dev Suggests PS5 Exclusives Are A Thing Of The Past For The Series
It would be a really poor decision to take an exclusivity deal as a third party publisher in today's landscape. Those deals should be rare going forward. Good riddance.
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Two Years, How Do You Feel About Xbox's Starfield In 2025?
I love Starfield. I have replayed it a couple times now after my initial barrage of 4 playthroughs. My 2023 goty and an all around great game.
I would like to see an update or dlc dedicated to base building/mining. That seemed like it was so close to being really fun. There could be a good story around building up your own space empire.
Re: EA Japan GM Comments On Xbox Layoffs, Says Long-In-Development Games 'Deserve To Ship'
I disagree. If a game is still in a bad spot after 7-10 years it's time to cut the cord. If it is still in a bad spot after so long it will probably never make it to a good place. You can't just give them an endless time frame and budget on something that simply is not working.
I actually think xbox gave Rare a strangely long leash for a game that infamously didn't have a proper direction or gameplay hook years into development. That game never should have been shown and should have gotten axed a long time ago. It is surprising they were given so much time to turn that into something.
Re: Gaming Subscriptions Reach 'All-Time High' But Xbox Series X|S Sales Suffer In May 2025 Analysis (US)
I think playstation realized that mlb forcing the show to go multiplat was the best thing to happen to the franchise. They are going to release more multiplat games going forward.
It is ironic that the company that "trains consumers not to buy games" is selling more games than anyone else.
Re: Former Exec Says He's 'Not Sure Xbox Would Be Around' If Microsoft Didn't Fix 360 RROD Issue
I think the 360 hardware failures were more impactful on the xbox one's poor reception than any of the one's issues. They managed to convince the majority of console gamers to buy their 360 console then gave them the worst experience imaginable. Its not surprising that everyone jumped ship the next generation. The 360 destroyed xbox's credibility big time and it never fully recovered.