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@ILuvGames steam gamers won't even go to the free epic store for exclusives. People are where they are.

@ILuvGames I dont think people will just up and leave because there is a pc storefront. People are dug into whatever platform they are in. Just convincing someone to upgrade from their ps5 (or ps4) to the next ps6 will be a tall order.

With console prices being what they are (and they won't ever go back to $500), exclusives probably arent going to draw very many people to playstation that arent there already. If playstation thinks there will just be a regular old ps8 for like $1200 in 15 years, they will have some very tough times ahead.

I think the playstation pc storefront that has been heavily rumored and datamined is the real reason they will be avoiding steam for single player.

We know they were at one point working on their own playstation pc store. It remains to be seen if it ever sees the light of day but i gotta believe Sony sees the writing on the wall for dedicated consoles.

Most of these would hurt the bottom line so gotta assume they ain't happening.

I wonder if the exclusives clan knows they are cheering for fewer xbox 1st party games, because that is the only possibility with going back to exclusives.

6 is the one I am hoping for the most.

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Zero desire to pay to play a game 4 days early.

I will play the crap out of it with gamepass and purchase it (and fh5) when they announce it is being delisted for like $10.

When will diablo 4 join the fun?

It is part of this month's humble bundle and its even the battle.net version but cant play it on console. I thought xbox was doing all 1st party games as play anywhere.

I dont see this as an issue. Its just a small icon in the corner of the homepage. Its not like you need to sit through a video or anything.

If McDonald's ads keep xbox from needing to raise the price of gamepass again then show me that McChicken. If we cut off this revenue source, then xbox will be that much further from their goals and things like price hikes, layoffs, cuts, cancelations will be even more prevalent.

I like how the related article field has this EXACT same story from 2024. Same McDonalds ad in the same place, same cherry picked reddit "outrage".

It was a solid 8. I haven't played it since launch though and probably won't replay it for awhile. Maybe in a year or two I will replay the whole trilogy.

I thought the mech and dragon parts were too basic and repetitive that it brought the game down a bit compared to the other doom games. But still a very enjoyable game.

@Millionski I'm a big fan of games releasing into gamepass. I probably wouldnt sub if not for "day 1" releases. To me it is the only game subscription worth considering and that is only because of the day 1 games.

I just wish they would stop pretending that it is still day 1 when they have another paywall to play some games 4 days earlier. It doesn't live up to the Ultimate name if UGP tier still needs to buy early access.

They really need to change the slogan to "Play it day 5 with gamepass."

Full screen celebration would be a very short term dopamine hit. I would rather have a section of your profile highlight all the games you have 100% on. Even if it doesn't list the actual games just have it be a badge like the one counting your years on xbox.

It would be a benefit to the Helix if the ps6 is not on the shelves next to it. I think they should be trying to get to the new pc hybrid platform as soon as reasonably possible.

Its kind of strange how perception can vary so much from game to game. Starfield's 85 metacritic score on pc and over 3 million sales despite being a gamepass game (more than 10 million players just months after launch) was seen as a disappointing new ip.

I am glad to see i am not the only one that does not pay full price. I feel like my backlog could sustain me for a solid decade at this point so adding games to it at full price is not a good use of money.

I'm not sure how much I actually save this way because I tend to get carried away with seasonal sales, humble bundles, etc but I end up playing and owning way more games this way.

Since 3rd party exclusives have dried up, the prospect of missing out on the small handful of 1st party games is not really a factor for me.

I am currently leaning towards just picking one console next gen to compliment my pc. Helix has a huge advantage so far with gamepass and access to my pc store libraries. The 4-5 exclusives I would actually want to play from playstation doesn't justify the $1000 buy in. Their console needs something other than the predatory retail practice of exclusivity. If they dont want to sell me those games where I am at then I guess I won't play them and there are thousands of other games to play.

Really hard to get excited for yet another remaster/remake. I feel bad for all the people who's first halo experience will lack multiplayer. Since I will probably still have a gamepass sub when these release, I might give them a playthrough but anything else remotely interesting will get priority over these.

Just making the master chief collection available on switch2 and ps5 would have made so much more sense. It would also benefit xbox owners as the multiplayer would get some much needed fresh blood.

I played it on pc game pass and the performance wasnt great but not awful either. I didnt do a full playthrough so I dont know if I would have gotten the late game crashes that were reported. Overall it was a pretty decent remaster of my all time favorite game. Still recommend just playing the original for a couple bucks rather than this.

Not sure if focusing on the small "core fan" group will lead to higher revenue. Good luck with that.

Seems like more corporate talk.

@GeeEssEff yes those are also way overpriced. Zero interest in any of them.

Terrible thumb stick location, over pricing, and limited compatibilty make this an obvious pass for me.

Sticking with the xbox and 8bitdo brands as my main controllers on pc.

I have only played a couple matches but I enjoyed it so far. I agree it probably doesn't have legs to keep a player base but there is at least some potential here. I dont know how committed double fine or xbox will be to bringing content to it longterm.

I like the xbox one era logos best. The green is much more pleasing in that iteration instead of the puke green of some of the others. I think the 2026 and 1999 logos are the worst of the bunch.

The elephant in the room is that it is still microsoft/Satya with the final say in everything xbox does. Asha will still need to hit all the same targets laid out by MS leadership when Phil was boss.

Asha is very good at corporate speak but below the surface I suspect it is 99% business as usual.

So this person sold their xbox because they believed the bs narrative that xbox is/was dead then bought back in at the much higher price point? Also roughly a year before a new gen arrives.

Its wild how much stock people put into online narratives and corporate speak.

I dont know what else there is to learn about exclusivity. They already saw how exclusive games did not move xbox ones or series x/s consoles.

It will come down to fewer and safer games with the exclusivity windows or full multiplat with more willingness to accept risk leading to more games overall. I will champion the full multiplat route until I'm blue in the face. Give the games/ip their best chance to succeed by selling them everywhere.

Build your own plan would be a huge improvement to the service. I feel that ultimate is bloated with stuff I dont want. Letting us pay for what we want would do a lot to bring back the "best value in gaming" reputation that gamepass used to be known for.

Im split on this.

This makes me way less likely to play call of duty, which sucks but GPU is a tolerable price again so thats nice. I will be dusting off my series x and s now that I will have ultimate again instead of just pc gamepass. Gamepass has lost two of my go to games for when I only have time for a quick session (COD and MLB the show).

I would have loved to see $19.99 be the price even if it required a few more cuts (fortnite crew, in game benefits, etc.)

But I will gladly take the discount. I will be going back to ultimate in a couple weeks when my pc gamepass sub runs out.

It would be more surprising if the chip wasnt used for any other device. I have been expecting the xbox branded other devices this whole time. Its a pretty safe bet.

Full multiplat, day 1 everywhere. Zero first party exclusives. Give every game a chance to reach its full potential. Call of duty is the only true "system seller" they own and cannot legally make it exclusive.

A true "system seller" nowadays means it needs to be good enough to convince someone to spend roughly $800 to play it. That is not realistic for any title. Halo infinite, hi fi rush, starfield, Indiana Jones, etc. we're all highly rated exclusives and they did not convince anyone to buy an xbox. An exclusive halo or gears game will not turn around the xbox sales and the game itself won't sell well. Nobody wins in that scenario.

I dont know what I would pay for a monthly subscription that only gets around 3 new games added to it every year. I wouldn't want to spend much.

Seems like it would just make it cheaper for the people that sub for 1 month, play the one game and cancel. It would take away a lot of the reason to stay subbed longterm and give players an even cheaper alternative to buying the game.

I doubt this plan makes it to the market.

This is why day and date is so important. Even though a lot of people have access to it for the first time, it is still seen as an older game compared to actual new releases. Would you rather spend the $70 you saved up on a brand new game that everyone is talking about or a game that came out 3 years ago and almost no one is talking about anymore?

This is also why playstation games didnt go down very well on pc. There are newer/better games in the limelight so no one really cares about that game they missed a year or two ago.

Timed exclusivity is not as bad for a games performance as full exclusivity but it is still harmful to the title.

Exclusives are not the answer. I cant think of anything that would sink an xbox franchise faster than making it exclusive to the xbox platform. The takeaway from management would be that low game sales means low interest. This is a one way street to fewer single player titles from xbox.

We are in an era where one miss from even a multiplat publisher means jobs are lost and possible studio closure. Limiting xbox franchises to xbox consoles would magnify that risk. Games would be given lower budgets, zero risks would be taken in development. Many, many games would not be green lit at all. Exclusives provide a worse experience for gamers.

From nearly a decade of industry wide praise as the best value in gaming, to their own CEO declaring it too expensive.

Gamepass needs a remodel. They got carried away with the bloated attempts to add value to justify each price increase. Now it is full of "perks" that go unused by most. Go a la carte model with each gamepass feature and let us build our own subscription.

Neither Premium or Ultimate currently meet my needs. Premium is missing the core feature of day 1 games while Ultimate has so much crap I dont ever want to use that it is way too expensive for what I get out of it. My solution was to just go with pc gamepass, which I love, but my consoles are collecting dust.

I understand their reasoning and the impact of gta but I would have much more respect for them and the game if they went for it. This will always be a game that chickened out to another game to me (they are not alone there). I want some confidence from the publishers.

David is saying screw that, Goliath is there.

Make having a pc gamepass sub eligible to play the old games with gold games on my console. I get the do you own this game message because it doesn't recognize that I have an active xbox online subscription but I pay nearly $20 a month for an xbox subscription on pc.

The concerning thing for me is that they might mistake the rage bait on bluesky/X as legitimate "fan" feedback. Hopefully the engagement grabbers arent able to hijack the overall consensus of what the average xbox fan wants.

Hopefully the achievement notifications on the pc app are updated as well. I was seeing a glitch where they were taking up 40% of the screen. Sometimes they are super delayed or i dont get an onscreen notification but it did unlock. There seems to be some stability issues there.

I like call of the sea. I will check this one out on GP.

Hardware wise they haven't aged graciously. The 4 OG xboxs I have owned had disc drive failures that i either replaced or turned into modded systems. I wouldn't touch any of the few remaining launch 360s either but my 360S is still running like a champ.

I guess the One wins by default but they might not be old enough yet to show us their longterm flaw.

A side comment on the 360 games will always be playable on discs, disc rot will inevitably happen to all your discs making them unplayable. Emulation is the best long term solution to game preservation.

Looking back, it doesn't seem like day 1 was ever worth it for me. I have found way more enjoyment buying/collecting the games and consoles at my own pace.

The Helix is interesting since we won't have to worry about locking ourselves into one ecosystem and be at their mercy for nearly a decade.

The decision to exclude pvp multiplayer makes less and less sense. Aside from your co op partner and a few cutscenes, how often will you be able to enjoy the different skins in a 1st person campaign?

@Pigrotto with a pc you dont have online fees so you save roughly $120 per year. If you figure the console life to be around 7 years you are looking at about $800 in online fees per console. You can also usually find the games cheaper since you arent limited to the one gatekeeping storefront of the traditional console model. Then there are always used parts to consider with a pc build.

Pc is more expensive at the initial build. Long term I think you can come out closer to even or maybe ahead especially when it comes time to upgrade and you only need a couple components instead of a whole new build.

The correct answer is probably kingdom come deliverence 2 but I have really liked minishoot adventures and want to spread the word on that little gem.

I love the game and franchise but if this is a paid upgrade I am probably skipping. I am not a fan of re-releases with minimal enhancements. (I am assuming that it is just a visual upgrade until i hear otherwise).

It would need to be closer to a full remake to buy into it again, the warmastered edition is already great.

If it comes down to deciding between two $1000 consoles then personally it would be an easy choice to go with the one with access to steam/epic/gog as well as the console library. Now that 3rd party exclusives are almost non existent, I dont see the value in a $1000 playstation. At $500-$600 I could justify having it as a secondary console just to play the exclusives. Since we are lucky if sony releases 2 AAA games in a year, I think I am just going to skip the whole works in the future and just be a pc/xbox/nintendo user.

Setting the stage for the ps6 to be a cool $1000 (or more).

Play anywhere should have been the marketing slogan. Simple and clean without claiming that your Samsung phone or whatever is actually a Microsoft product.

Play xbox, play anywhere.

An annoying hitch in the current configuration is that having pc gamepass means I cant play the old games with gold freebies on console that I claimed way back when. Apparently, paying for xbox gamepass on pc doesn't count as an active xbox online account.