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I don't think they will "put steam on the console" but they will make it possible to have steam,epic, gog on the console. It will be up to the user to put steam on the console. Much like the steam deck does not come with epic or have it listed in their store. You need to side load that yourself.

It will likely be a windows hybrid with an xbox UI.

Gabe from Steam had a great quote when they released the deck. He was asked if users could install windows on it. He said of course the user can, it's a pc.

Its nice to see Sony exploring multiplat with yet another switch port. It should continue to expand like their pc strategy did. Their minds are clearly open to a future without console exclusives.

I have no faith in Bungie. I plan to stay far away from this game, if it even releases. It will take overwhelmingly positive reviews and numerous friends recommendations to change my mind.

Xbox is essentially becoming a new gaming version of Windows and that is very exciting. Get the traditional tv oriented xbox if you want, get a prebuilt pc, build your own, go with a gaming laptop, handheld, etc. Your xbox library and store will be there wherever. While playstation and Nintendo are locked to a single device and you are limited to what they decide the device can do and will cost.

Xbox is letting Sony and Nintendo fight their little console sales figures war while they are fighting microsofts oldest fight, the operating system war. XboxOS/windows against SteamOS and linux/mac/etc.

Sadly, people will still drool over sales figures of the dedicated devices and wait for sony and Nintendo to grant the ability to purchase a whole new variant like the "pro" version halfway between the next time they let you buy a whole new "next generation" of the device. Xbox will always have a pro version available, upgrade whenever and however you want.

I doubt they are refrencing a switch like device by xbox. Technically the rog ally and steam decks are hybrids since they have hdmi out. Any handheld they or 3rd party make would qualify as a hybrid. I just doubt they are teasing anything from their own hardware that is portable.

I think xbox makes a console that is "hybrid" in the console and pc sense not the portable and stationary sense. This is way more exciting than a handheld.

This is an appealing strategy. My biggest complaint about Nintendo and Playstation is that you are at their mercy for where your library is. They (and xbox) have in the past cut me off from my libraries, they probably will again (psvr2 did this just a few years ago). I have so many digital games that can only be accessed on one single device like the wii or ps3 and no where else. This idea of my Steam, epic, gog, and xbox libraries being side by side on a plethora of devices is very appealing. Especially with how well xbox has implemented the cross saves. Playing the same save on the xbox in the living room, the pc in my office, or a handheld on the go is the type of move that will actually say I want this platform and their devices over the other ones.

I feel like the main series needs a new take way more than the horizon series. The Horizon games are some of the most slam dunk successful racing games ever. All 5 of them have been great.

The mainline needs something to make it more replayable. Acquiring new cars and leveling them up on the same couple of tracks is not fun for more than a few hours. I don't think a story mode is the answer for a hardcore racing Sim but some kind of season/career mode like Nascar or F1 would help.

Hopefully the multiplayer grows with the multiplat launch.

Probably a mix of both. They waited too long to port to xbox and these games don't have a massive audience on xbox.

It will probably take some substantial effort to get japanese games to become popular with Xbox users.

I plan on getting this when it's deeply discounted. I bet I play it and wonder what all the hate was about. It happened with Gotham knights and Saints Row. At $5 those games were a lot of fun.

"Next gen" is about to be open to interpretation for xbox. I think there will be more devices from 1st and 3rd party. It will be more like pc. Find the device that is right for you and upgrade when you're ready.

This device is not trying to take over any other device in terms of sales. The 4 million of the steam deck is probably out of reach. This is an expansion of the Xbox ecosystem and a proof of concept for portable windows/xbox. They hope this leads to Lenovo, anbernic, Alienware, etc or their users putting portable windows on devices.

Instead of focusing on unit sales they will continue to push the overall xbox users. There will be a wide variety of devices including first and third party. That is what is kind of exciting about the future of xbox, it's not going to be limited to the official box and we will have a ton of options. You can build your own pc with this gaming windows/xbox interface.

I'm just glad they didn't de-list oblivion like most publishers would have. The original is still a great game and at $3 I would easily recommend that version over the remaster.

Between xbox owners of gears ultimate getting the upgrade for free and gamepass, I don't think this is going to sell copies on xbox.

The sole purpose of this remaster is to sell the game on pc and playstation.

I cant believe sony is still wasting money on these deals. The benefit really isn't there anymore and it just hurts the game and developer.

There were rumors going around that sony is working on a Playstation pc app with cross entitlements. That would mean day 1 pc releases and even availability on a pc based xbox. It sounds like they are planning for a future of more than just their plastic console as well.

It's hard to envision the game doing any better without gamepass. Probably more of a case of too many games and too little time.

If gamers, on average, buy and play around 5 games per year and the industry releases thousands of games per year then a lot of these games are not going to succeed in the way this guy wishes his game was doing.

I wonder how he feels about Epic giving away 50+ games away per year for free, no strings attached. That's a lot of time gamers can spend on games they aren't paying for.

These types of services are great for the consumer and bring more people into gaming by reducing the ever increasing price barrier. They are a net positive for gaming.

Excellent news. I would rather play in 1st person. I wish the 4 remake had an official 1st person mode.

That means the vast majority of games will still be targeting series S level devices for 5+ years. The next gen will be interesting for playstation and Xbox. They will probably end up not pushing the specs to the limit and prioritizing making them as close to a reasonable price as possible. There won't be much for reasons to upgrade.

Exciting times ahead for xbox owners if the xbox/windows collab continues and makes it to all xbox devices.

Clearly the lack of review copies is because the game is coming in hot. They will likely be fixing this one on the fly for months to come.

At least they are being somewhat upfront about it.

1. Grounded 2
2. Clockwork revolution
3. High on life 2
4. The outer worlds 2
5. There are no ghosts at the Grand
6. Keeper

The big question is if/when will the xbox interface be available to all pc handhelds like steamOS?

I would convert my current rog ally to it but not sure yet if I will upgrade to the xbox ally.

Game informer says you can launch steam games directly from the Xbox game bar.

I always thought microsoft should be the one to try the all in one launcher for pc.

I feel like my vague prediction was pretty accurate. I said they would focus on their smaller titles and third party. I was pretty confident perfect dark, fable, gears e day,etc would not be there.

Overall, the show slightly exceeded my lower expectations. It was a solid B and the best of the weaker than normal summer shows.

My favorites were

1. Grounded 2
2. Clockwork revolution
3. High on life 2
4. Keeper
5. There are no ghosts at the Grand

This was my favorite reveal of the show. Grounded 1 is one of my favorites of this gen. I love that game so much.

B...It trailed off a bit in the 2nd half but easily the best show of the week.

Double fine releasing a game on my b-day should be a nice present.

I'm still on the fence on buying a switch 2. I am not convinced that it will be worth it. I definitely don't plan to buy 3rd party games there if i get one. I have much better options to play those games that aren't locked to a single device.

Even though I don't plan to buy 3rd party games on a Nintendo device, xbox should absolutely put every single one of their games on the platform.

Crypt custodian on gamepass. It has been great so far.

Also have a replay of wolfenstein old blood going and playing a bunch of civ 7 and halo infinite.

C it was about as average as it gets. I don't think xbox's show will be a 10 but the bar is pretty low after middle of the road shows from sgf and playstation.

Sony did not make more money on this port than Xbox. It's not even close. Development cost would be the port cost in this case because they already had a completed game to port.

But either way it's not really relevant to the point that xbox is demostrating that multiplatform is unlocking a huge revenue source.

I'm sticking with my low expectations. I don't think it lives up to last years show. They have enough coming to have a pretty good show but I'm expecting the majority to be the smaller games like clockwork, double fine, everwild, etc and 3rd party games.

Last year was probably the best showcase of all time, so naturally expecting a regression.

@Weebleman sony profiting off of their ports doesn't impact anything from xboxs perspective. If it increases their bottom line then who cares? It's no different than giving Steam a cut to access those players.

Spiderman for example, could easily be profitable on an xbox port and ultra profitable on switch. Who cares if xbox and Nintendo get a smaller percentage of the $70 per copy?

ChatGPT is estimating that porting a AAA game to a different console costs 500k-2m. Xbox made out great on forza.

I expect this showcase to be noticeably worse than the xbox show last year. I suggest we temper expectations a bit.

If xbox continues to demonstrate that this much money is being left on the table then sony and nintendo execs will have a harder time keeping their games exclusive to one platform. It's hard to imagine a future where playstation games are not releasing on Nintendo and maybe even xbox (if xbox goes the pc route then it might not be up to sony).

It's been a slow death for exclusives but it looks like it's just a matter of time.

Deathloop was already an epic store giveaway. This is the second time they have had it as a freebie.

The outer worlds, Elder scrolls online, the evil within 1&2, wolfenstein new order, prey, ghostwire tokyo, dishonored/dishonored death of outsider and every fallout except 4 were also an epic freebie.

I'm not sure about the pillars of eternity ip ownership but that was a giveaway too. Epic giveaways are great and bethesda has given away pretty much their whole catalog there, most of them after xbox bought them.

Is it safe to assume there is an English language option?

I tried to get back into this yesterday and was immediately put off by how bad it ran. I'm getting close to deleting it and moving on.

The original is my favorite game and I feel like Brando in the Godfather. Look how they massacred my boy.

@Millionski i think the next step for xbox and playstation is to move beyond just the box in the living room. Xbox has play anywhere and are going more towards a pc based system. Sony is rumored to be working on a pc store with cross entitlements similar to play anywhere. You can still buy the box if you want to, but they need to expand beyond that as the only place to play their games.

I believe the industry is much worse if you need to buy box A to play this set of games and box B to play that set of games. It's annoying to have all those different boxes and libraries if you can afford them and prohibitive to those that can't afford all of them.

@Xboxian360 if exclusives were the reason to buy an Xbox, no one would have ever bought an Xbox to begin with. They went decades with very little first party support. 1st party content was their greatest weakness until the last 2 years.

There are about to be more xbox hardware devices available than any other generation. There will be the Microsoft devices, officially licensed 3rd party devices and probably a more fleshed out xbox environment on pc. You are also ignoring that Nintendo and Steam compete head to head with Sony already and will continue to do so. It will be even more so when Steam's "home console" device comes out and other pc companies release their own "console" pc like they did with handhelds. Sony has never seen more competition than they are right now. Xbox isn't going anywhere but Sony wouldn't have anything close to a monopoly if they did.

You seem to be making the same mistake the FTC made when they tried to redefine what the industry is. The companies are evolving beyond the single home device restriction and the industry will be better for it.

Exclusives do nothing but make it harder for people to buy and play the game.

@Xboxian360 how does selling more copies of games make anyone less competitive? Arent the headlines of "xbox dominates playstation best seller list" indicative of more competition? Xbox isn't going anywhere.

This is a positive for the whole industry. Multiplatform is the future.

Not quite at the price I'm looking for yet. I will keep waiting.

I liked spirit of the north 1 a lot. I am looking forward to playing the sequel. Elusive looks fun too.

It's too bad Airframe Ultra isn't coming to consoles. That game has ps1 era racing written all over it.

It's not my jam. I gave it a few hours but wasn't willing to commit anymore with all the other stuff waiting to be played. I probably shouldn't give a score with the 3ish hours I put into it but I gave it a 6.

The annual sea of thieves/elder scrolls online/fallout 76 update is a layup prediction.

I don't think we see halo or hear about the new first party console.

I'm hoping machinegames reveals the next wolfenstein game instead of any indy dlc.

Replaying mafia definitive edition, some halo infinite and civ 7 as well.

I want them to lean into the xbox is a pc strategy. So a handheld that only has xbox store/interface is not something i want. Hopefully they get windows into a more gaming focused state. It seems like steamOS is lighting a fire inside microsoft and showing them that default windows is not the best choice for every device. They need a version with no bloat and is gaming focused.

Steam deck kind of already has the solution with the desktop mode as a separate thing to use for the computing side of setting it up and the gaming mode for ease of use/console feel.

It was a great month for gamepass. Doom dark ages is currently leading the game of the year for me even though I still believe it is worse than the other two from the doom reboot trilogy. Another awesome game in the excellent doom series.