@Nightcrawler71 They are both quite different, to be honest. The Bus focuses on a real-life scale of Berlin, while Bus Sim 27 is based on a fictional Mediteranian/South American map.
Both have good handling mechanics, and Bus Sim 27 has a much wider variety of licensed vehicles, including coaches.
Both are on the cheaper side, so if you can get both.
I have enjoyed it so far, but for anyone who is holding out, I suggest waiting a few weeks while the dev team irons out the rest of the bugs/performance (especially on Series S).
This dev team does usually present quite a high-quality, polished product after a couple of months of patches.
It doesn't look that great to me, tbh, kind of a more cringe version of Forza but not as polished. Considering these are ex-Forza devs, the story looks to have taken new levels of cringe.
I don't think Playground Games has anything to worry about from this particular developer.
I can imagine the 3 largest markets (US, Canada & UK) will be excluded from this, as there will be more of a focus on pushing hardware sales rather than cloud, with low-engagement countries getting an easier time with cloud to keep people subscribed to Game Pass.
@Kloppo Pure Xbox feels like the unloved child of Hookshot; they rarely get codes outside of 1st party games. I guess it's indicative of how many people visit this site vs the other 2 main ones.
The next review to expect will probably be Minecraft Dungeons 2 or Gears of War E-Day
Let's be honest, for Fable fans, the story is treated as a nice add-on. Like Elder Scrolls games, you can spend hundreds of hours doing everything else in the world.
The world/life sim elements are what really excite me about this game.
If you are just playing the story in this game, you are missing out on about 80% of what Fable has to offer.
I struggle to understand how anyone other than shareholders and MS executives care about the sales numbers.
If Xbox is doing badly (which it has to a degree) Asha will just come out and say it anyways. Sales data for certain games is just a small part of what good performance looks like at a gaming centric business.
Smyths is taking pre-orders for £79.99. I expect it to come down at other retailers too, like Currys, Argos, and Amazon. The Forza controller went down to £74.99 eventually.
Xbox should cancel the 1TB Series S version. £519.99 is the same as the much more powerful PS5 digital (which can have a disc drive added) and is a terrible look tbh.
I can only see someone paying £519.99 for a Series S if all other consoles are sold out and someone is desperate to play GTA 6.
Where I work, you can still get Xbox's at the old prices, but stock is running out fast as everyone is rushing to get a much cheaper one now.
We have shifted a huge amount of Xbox Series X Digitals and Series S's online today. Many are now store collection only. The Series X Disc sold more today than at any other point since launch; we are out of stock company-wide now except for a couple of stores.
@8th_Observer Well, the reason they have gone downhill in the last 2-3 years is that they diluted the brand so badily but making everything an Xbox and multiplat that nobody knew or cared what an Xbox was. The exclusives strategy is there to try and rebuild the Xbox brand and give consumers a reason to pick Xbox in the future. It is a long-term play rather than a short-term one where they will lose money at first.
Exclusives don't make the most money, but they provide a gateway to hardware investment that then leads to broader software investment. It is a tactic that PlayStation uses.
Spider-Man gets players to buy a PS5, and they will then, in turn, buy a much larger number of copies of COD or FC 27 to generate more money for Sony.
Something big like The Elder Scrolls 6 as an exclusive would be a gateway product for Xbox like Forza used to be before Xbox decided to make online games multiplatform.
@trev666 Clockwork is due out next year, is almost finished, and is being marketed as an exclusive for 2027. I doubt this one will get cancelled. It's normally the games in Dev hell that are years away that could go. I expect Blade to go, for instance.
I don't trust the game business who have a clear bias towards Xbox and like to push out negative stories. You can be sure Matt Ball was on the phone to Jason Schrier to set the record straight.
How much RAM and storage did Xbox buy? They have far greater access to RAM and storage than Steam
How much cost is it willing to bear? They have significantly more money they can lose than Steam
When did it source these items? And at what price? Larger orders pre-2024 will be much cheaper than Steam's 2024 + smaller-order prices.
How far will it lean into affordability, by lowering specs and reducing cost (as Asha and Matt Ball have mentioned in recent interviews), Xbox could pivot away from very high-end specs, which would lower the cost.
That will determine the launch price and how many units they can sell at that price.
Unless we have that information, we will just be assuming and guessing.
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Re: Spoilers For Three Upcoming Xbox First-Party Titles Revealed In Massive Achievement List Leak
I will be honest, I looked at the Persona 6 ones lol
Re: Bus Simulator 27 Has Arrived, And Here's A First Look At Reviews & Xbox Footage
@Nightcrawler71 They are both quite different, to be honest. The Bus focuses on a real-life scale of Berlin, while Bus Sim 27 is based on a fictional Mediteranian/South American map.
Both have good handling mechanics, and Bus Sim 27 has a much wider variety of licensed vehicles, including coaches.
Both are on the cheaper side, so if you can get both.
Re: Bus Simulator 27 Has Arrived, And Here's A First Look At Reviews & Xbox Footage
I have enjoyed it so far, but for anyone who is holding out, I suggest waiting a few weeks while the dev team irons out the rest of the bugs/performance (especially on Series S).
This dev team does usually present quite a high-quality, polished product after a couple of months of patches.
Re: GTA 6 Has No Major Xbox Competitors This November, But Nintendo Is Going Against It
I am excited for both. They are more complementary and competitive.
Re: Talking Point: The Xbox 360 Launched With 12 Gamerpics, Do You Remember Yours?
I think I went ultra basic and picked the Football. I may have also used the Panda pic too.
Re: Clutch Developer Doesn't Want To 'Kill' Forza Horizon, But Improve On Its 'Fairly Weak' Areas
It doesn't look that great to me, tbh, kind of a more cringe version of Forza but not as polished. Considering these are ex-Forza devs, the story looks to have taken new levels of cringe.
I don't think Playground Games has anything to worry about from this particular developer.
Re: GTA 6 Release Times Suggest Some Xbox Players Will Get Access Earlier Than Others
They normally just do midnight local time, so if you live in another part of the world, best to keep offline lol or "travel to New Zealand"
Once it gets to the 19th somewhere, they won't care about any leaks or spoilers, as it will technically be launched.
I personally can wait 12/13 hours tbh.
Re: Samson Gets September Release Date & New Console Trailer For Xbox Series X|S
Curious to see how this one lands on console now that some updates have been put out.
Re: Three Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass This Week (September 8-10)
Nothing for this part of the month
Re: Xbox Is Telling Some People They Don't Need To Worry About Cloud Gaming Time Limits
I can imagine the 3 largest markets (US, Canada & UK) will be excluded from this, as there will be more of a focus on pushing hardware sales rather than cloud, with low-engagement countries getting an easier time with cloud to keep people subscribed to Game Pass.
Re: Xbox's Latest Cloud Gaming TV Announcement Is Happening At The Most Awkward Time
If you are playing more than 15 hours of gaming per month, saving for. series s should be a consideration.
Re: Xbox Is Officially Putting Time Limits On Cloud Gaming For Game Pass Members
I think MS realised cloud gaming has a long way to go before it becomes profitable for them.
Re: Fable Encourages You To Make The Game As Easy Or As Difficult As You Like
Looks like a great level of customisation here, which means anyone can enjoy the game on their terms.
Re: Eight Big Showcases Xbox Fans Should Look Out For In September
@fatpunkslim Same - The State of Play's are usually rubbish
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In September 2026
@strzelec Yes, check the link - sadly looks to be a mistake which is why it has not being reported
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In September 2026
@strzelec The video got taken down - maybe this was a mistake
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About The Blood Of Dawnwalker
@Kloppo Pure Xbox feels like the unloved child of Hookshot; they rarely get codes outside of 1st party games. I guess it's indicative of how many people visit this site vs the other 2 main ones.
The next review to expect will probably be Minecraft Dungeons 2 or Gears of War E-Day
Re: 'Literally Play It Forever' - Playground Games Confirms Fable Will Take 20 hours To Beat
Let's be honest, for Fable fans, the story is treated as a nice add-on. Like Elder Scrolls games, you can spend hundreds of hours doing everything else in the world.
The world/life sim elements are what really excite me about this game.
If you are just playing the story in this game, you are missing out on about 80% of what Fable has to offer.
Re: State Of Decay 3 Confirms New Release Window & Closed Beta Plans
I can see why MS decided to cut their losses.
Re: Roundup: The First Hands-Off Previews Are Starting To Roll In For GTA 6
I am very impressed and excited for this game!
Re: Xbox Series X25 Console & Controller: Prices, Release Dates, Pre-Orders Announced
A lot of people will complain about the price, but watch it sell out, lol
I grabbed the controller, which went up for pre-order yesterday.
Update 7 mins after pre-order launch - it's sold out in the UK.
Re: 10+ Games That Have Been Revealed For Xbox Game Pass In 2027 Already
A great start to 2027 for sure
Re: Xbox Has Reportedly Pulled Out Of Sharing Digital Sales Data With Circana
Oh no, how will people farm engagement now?
I struggle to understand how anyone other than shareholders and MS executives care about the sales numbers.
If Xbox is doing badly (which it has to a degree) Asha will just come out and say it anyways. Sales data for certain games is just a small part of what good performance looks like at a gaming centric business.
Re: Xbox CTO Issues Brief Statement On GTA 6 Leaks
@Banjo- Alphabet is the owner of Google fyi
Re: The Blood Of Dawnwalker Has Two Performance Modes On Xbox Series X, But No 60FPS
Where are the Series S specs?
Re: Xbox Series X25 Price & Release Date Details Are Starting To Leak Out
So the expected UK price will be about £799.99. that's £10 more than a 2TB PS5 pro and not worth it even for a big Xbox fan like myself.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In September 2026 So Far
@Fiendish-Beaver Dawnwalker is out Sept 3rd FYI
Re: Xbox Unveils Two New Official Controllers For Gears Of War E-Day
Smyths is taking pre-orders for £79.99. I expect it to come down at other retailers too, like Currys, Argos, and Amazon. The Forza controller went down to £74.99 eventually.
Re: SanDisk Announces Three New Expansion Cards For Xbox Series X|S
This is actually quite cheap compared to the £300-£500 some SSDs are going for.
It looks like they aren't available in the UK yet.
Re: New GTA 6 Footage To Be Revealed In Special 'Extended Look' This Month
Unlike others, I am hyped for this lol
Re: Here's A Breakdown Of The New Prices For Xbox Series X|S Consoles As Of August 2026
Xbox should cancel the 1TB Series S version. £519.99 is the same as the much more powerful PS5 digital (which can have a disc drive added) and is a terrible look tbh.
I can only see someone paying £519.99 for a Series S if all other consoles are sold out and someone is desperate to play GTA 6.
Where I work, you can still get Xbox's at the old prices, but stock is running out fast as everyone is rushing to get a much cheaper one now.
We have shifted a huge amount of Xbox Series X Digitals and Series S's online today. Many are now store collection only. The Series X Disc sold more today than at any other point since launch; we are out of stock company-wide now except for a couple of stores.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Previews Are Saying About Gears Of War: E-Day
@8th_Observer Well, the reason they have gone downhill in the last 2-3 years is that they diluted the brand so badily but making everything an Xbox and multiplat that nobody knew or cared what an Xbox was. The exclusives strategy is there to try and rebuild the Xbox brand and give consumers a reason to pick Xbox in the future. It is a long-term play rather than a short-term one where they will lose money at first.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Previews Are Saying About Gears Of War: E-Day
@8th_Observer
Exclusives don't make the most money, but they provide a gateway to hardware investment that then leads to broader software investment. It is a tactic that PlayStation uses.
Spider-Man gets players to buy a PS5, and they will then, in turn, buy a much larger number of copies of COD or FC 27 to generate more money for Sony.
Something big like The Elder Scrolls 6 as an exclusive would be a gateway product for Xbox like Forza used to be before Xbox decided to make online games multiplatform.
Re: Corsair Cove Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass, And Here's What The Reviews Are Saying
Shame it is not available to play on an Xbox console.
Re: Not A Good Look For Xbox As Halo: Campaign Evolved Plays Best On PlayStation
The game plays best on a high-end PC, not the PS5 Pro. From what I saw from DF, it was not a huge difference between the Series X and the PS5 Pro.
Re: Talking Point: How Much Has The Xbox Outage Affected You?
Had no issues at my end
Re: Xbox Achieves Its Biggest Month For US Console Sales In 2026 So Far
Got the UK prices effective 1st Aug:
Series S 512GB £399.99
Series S 1TB £449.99
Series X 1TB Digital £599.99
Series X 1TB Disc £649.99
Re: Former Xbox Studio Wins 'Game Of The Year' At Games For Change 2026
The game can win all the "change" awards it wants. But not many people bought it, and Xbox lost a lot of money.
Re: Here's The New Lineup Of Xbox Game Studios For July 2026 Onwards
@trev666 Maybe, but it will come out.
Re: Obsidian, id Software & Others Confirmed To Be Affected By Xbox Layoffs
Obsidian was sadly not making enough money to keep the number of staff they had. They should focus on one big project at a time.
Re: Three Aims Detailed By Asha Sharma For The 'Most Significant Restructure In Xbox History'
Asha has made the right call to get rid of the bloat and try to fix the mess that Phil and Sarah left.
Re: Here's The New Lineup Of Xbox Game Studios For July 2026 Onwards
@trev666 Clockwork is due out next year, is almost finished, and is being marketed as an exclusive for 2027. I doubt this one will get cancelled. It's normally the games in Dev hell that are years away that could go. I expect Blade to go, for instance.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Cuts And Four Studio Departures
All the underperforming studios are going; that's no surprise. I am glad those studios will remain open, and their jobs will remain for now, though.
Re: This New Xbox Controller Looks Absolutely Insane, And It's Releasing This Year
Okay, that looks great, something to keep on my radar as I love flight sim.
Re: Journalist Claims Xbox Is 'Keeping' Obsidian Following Rumours Of Potential Closure
I don't trust the game business who have a clear bias towards Xbox and like to push out negative stories. You can be sure Matt Ball was on the phone to Jason Schrier to set the record straight.
Re: Here's How The New Xbox Prices Compare To PS5, Switch 2 & Steam Machine
@Coletrain
Agree, we are selling Switch 2s for £379.99 where I work, and Xbox Series X for £479.99, and Series S 512 GB for £289.99.
Even GTA 6 has stuck at £70 and not gone to £80, and MS is launching new AAA games at £60-£70.
Curious why the prices have remained fairly low in the UK until now.
Re: GTA 6 Costs $80, Described As A 'Single-Player Experience'
So we looking at £74.99 as Take 2 actually convert down.
Re: Eek, GTA 6's 'Physical Edition' Is A Download Code In A Box
As the game is prone to a big leak on physical, it's probably best to keep this off disc or PC until after launch.
Hopefully they will do a disc version at some point after launch.
I personally don't care about physical games.
Re: Eek, GTA 6's 'Physical Edition' Is A Download Code In A Box
@dkxcalibur Not a dumb question at all. The full game would have had to have been on 2 disc which doubles up the cost and gives a risk of leaks.
Re: What Does A $1049 Steam Machine Mean For Xbox's Project Helix?
Depends on factors such as:
How much RAM and storage did Xbox buy? They have far greater access to RAM and storage than Steam
How much cost is it willing to bear? They have significantly more money they can lose than Steam
When did it source these items? And at what price? Larger orders pre-2024 will be much cheaper than Steam's 2024 + smaller-order prices.
How far will it lean into affordability, by lowering specs and reducing cost (as Asha and Matt Ball have mentioned in recent interviews), Xbox could pivot away from very high-end specs, which would lower the cost.
That will determine the launch price and how many units they can sell at that price.
Unless we have that information, we will just be assuming and guessing.