I would happily put the OG Xbox up there with the PSP, Dreamcast and Wii as one of the most (if not THE most) successful console launch lineup of all time. Within a few weeks we got Panzer Dragoon Orta and JSRF too.
The Xbox 360 would have come close if it wasn't for the fact that the campaign in Perfect Dark Zero was terrible and Microsoft split their launch market into happy customers who brought the Pro console and unhappy ones who ended up with the terrible Core unit. Also you forgot Hexic.
The Xbox One launch was actually better than I remember and the console launched with so much promise. Then Microsoft chopped off lots of cool features like Snap, cancelled all their 1st party games and, well it took them 3 years to bring it back.
The Series X had an embarrassing launch IMO. No great console exclusives and nothing you could let buy elsewhere compared to the new titles and clever hardware tricks of the PS5. A year later however and this is Microsoft's best Christmas since 2002 in terms of software.
Whilst I would happily argue that the Xbox 360 is probably the greatest console ever made, I reckon the Series X will be the best simply because it also works with all the previous ones.
"Even amidst a competitive racing field, Forza Horizon 5 is a finely tuned supercar." - GameInformer
What competition? This isn't the Xbox 360 days when we were drowning in racing titles. There are some good quality indie racing titles like Horizon Chase but apart from sub-par efforts like The Crew 2, can anyone name a big racing franchise that isn't Forza, Gran Turismo or Mario Kart?
@Alduin I give it a few months before the sale is finalised. With any luck Microsoft will demand a few franchises as well like Legacy of Kain which SE will never do anything with. Its doubtful they will let Tomb Raider go though.
More of the same sounds good to me. There isn't much more that could be done with the open-world racing genre anyway. The Crew 2 succeeded at using alternate modes of transport but the map was too big and featureless.
Maybe one day Sony might make some sort of Blade Runner-esque open world WipEout (which would probably be terrible) and surely Nintendo are building a Mario Kart World open kart racer but until then, we haver Forza.
I remember babysitting my neighbours kid one night. I was playing their import copy of Silent Hill at 1am in the dark and all I can hear is the footsteps of their doberman plodding around the garden outside. Scary as.
I imagine the game will still look good on the X1. Forza Horizon 1 still look great in my eyes and the weather in number 2 is gorgeous. Playground wouldn't make a duff game.
Rockstar isn't stupid. They know that everyone's favourite GTA is Vice City. Why do you think this isn't on Game Pass or PSNow?
The original hasn't aged well and San Andreas is both too big and too of its time to be considered a classic. Yeah you can highjack a jumbo jet but the story hasn't aged well.
The 1980's satire of Vice City will never get old and Tommy Vercetti is one of gaming's greatest leading men.
I don't see where this fits in. If you want a more serious BR game you play Warzone. If you want a more anarchic almost cartoon-like experience you play Fortnite. If you want to BR on your phone PUBG is a solid bet and if you want quick play games Butter Royale is a hoot.
I can understand why you missed off GoldenEye. It’s a much better Bond game than anything since but it was massively surpassed by Perfect Dark which is still the greatest FPS ever made (I’ll hear arguments against though)
So I voted for Everything or Nothing. It was a pretty decent game elevated by EA’s Hollywood production values. They even had a Bond Theme composed!
Let’s be honest: every game is in some way a superhero game. As the protagonist of the story you likely have something special that sets you apart from the common enemies and NPC’s. In many cases it is your human reactions that set you apart from the AI making you super heroic in that world (like Captain N!)
How for example is Wolverine any more ‘super’ than Sparrow from Fable 2 or Sonic the Hedgehog?
Really looking forward to it. I really enjoyed the campaigns from 4 and 5. They were a huge step up in pacing over the first 2 games (although Reach still has the best in the series) and didn’t have any endless corridors for padding.
Co-op is fun but I’d rather play it through in single player first before launching into a buddy mission with my sons anyway.
I can live with multiplayer challenges after playing Fortnite for 3 years. If anything just getting XP for playing the matches makes things a little dull. Doing the challenges encourages different play styles and to get better at the game. A footballer doesn’t get better just sat on a bench every game!
It seems like a financial no-brainer: take a large upfront payment for Gamepass on your risky indie property that might not break even and then use the publicity from that to then eventually port the title to rival platforms and get more sales.
Without seeing the challenges we cannot pass judgement. For all we know 343 have devised a clever set of challenges that encourage the player to get better at the game rather than just rewards for turning up.
This does kind of suck in many ways for those of us like me who are rubbish at FPS games but still want to play them, however they might also have played a lot of Titanfall and stolen their ideas for making sure rubbish players feel valued.
Good news, kids: you can recreate the Call of Duty alpha experience in your own neighbourhood!
Get yourself an old nerf gun and then walk 50 paces in one direction. Now imagine yourself shooting endlessly recycling badguys for 5 minutes. Turn 90 degrees in one direction and walk another 50 paces. Turn 90 degrees again and walk 25 paces. Imagine yourself shooting some more endless goons for 5 minutes.
The loss of campaign co-op at launch isn’t as big as many fans make out and Forge is a nice feature to have but ultimately only for a tiny %age of fans.
The rest of us get campaign on Gamepass (because nobody is paying $50 for it) and a nice ongoing multiplayer that plays really well.
I’m with him on Battle Royale. Unable to see my friends (well, 3 live in another city and 1 lives in another country) we started playing Fortnite on a Thursday night as a weekly hangout and we’ve kept it going for the last 18 months. I don’t think we have ever missed a week either.
Our friend who lives in Turkey recently moved to Cambodia and he gets up at 5am his time (11pm UK time) to play with us for an hour before he goes to work and we go to bed!
The thing is co-op in Halo only got fun when Reach came out. 1-3 are great games but they do suffer from a lot of padding, CE especially. Co-op in that was great because at least you had someone to talk to whilst navigating the endless corridors between firefights!
Split-screen I get because of the increased processing required but I however don’t see why online co-op couldn’t have been integrated for launch. How much extra coding would that require beyond taking the template from Halo 5?
I want to enjoy COD but I always felt the level designer who they poached from Bungie got a raw deal. They only hired him based on his fantastic use of a ruler and pencil in padding out Halo CE with endless corridors and this is all they got.
@The_New_Butler I would argue storage isn’t an issue. The smallest amount of games you could fit on it from a next gen perspective is 5, based on a 95gb installation size.
“Master Chief, the Covenant have found earth abd are preparing to glass the planet. You need to go out and complete bounties for Cortana. These will allow you to collect 500 samples of HaloWeave which you can then transform into HaloShards at the Tower.”
“Which tower, Sir?”
“I don’t even have time to tell you why I don’t have time to tell you. Once you have 50 HaloShards you can trade these for bounties which will earn you HaloMarks which you can then spend on HaloLight at the Tower. Each 5 HaloLight will give you 5 minutes of boosted HaloCoins from the Covenant loot drops.”
“I need a weapon!”
“You will have to go out and earn HaloCoins to buy one from the Vendors at our base.”
<Meanwhile in space>
“FIRE THE GLASS CANNON! NO FOE CAN WITHSTAND OUR MIGHT!”
Assassin’s Creed 2 is the ultimate sequel. It corrects everything bad about the first game whilst standing on feet so tall many still consider it to be the best in the series. I’d love a remake with a 1:1 recreation of Venice not unlike Paris from AC Unity.
Fable 2 gets a nod too for correcting the mistakes of the original and if Forza Horizon never existed it would be the best 1st party game on the 360.
I consider game pass a rental service. If a game comes out I like the look of I’ll stump for a month and then give it a go. If I like it I will probably wait a few months and grab it on sale.
This seems like a smart move, especially if progress carries over to mobile too (where the heck is the Switch version?!)
It would be nice to see Konami experiment with the always online nature of the game a little by offering some crazy game modes like 50v50 on a regular pitch or a quick play 5-a-side mode with no outs.
I want a good Mexican music station. Hispanic hip hop is actually pretty good.
Hands down the best game for music is FH1. A good mix of new and old music (New Order, Stone Roses) all meant for driving and DJs that enhances the motoring festival backdrop.
I know how this sounds out loud but one thing that annoyed me about FH4 was the lack of inclusion on the default characters at the beginning. There was actually a good amount of female, Asian and Afro Caribbean characters to pick from; it’s just (and again, I know how this sounds) both white guy options had blonde hair. There was no dark hair option or ginger and you don’t see that many men of any racial background with blonde hair!
I do miss Snap. It was helpful to put YouTube up so you can follow through a game walkthrough. I used to use my 360 as my primary TV box with Sky back in the day and fell in love with the Xbox One multimedia push on day one.
Now it does none of those things. It’s not the same machine I bought in 2013.
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Re: Soapbox: I Love Forza Horizon 5, But Those Bonus Boards Are Driving Me Crazy
Wait until you try the one on the roof of the hotel!
Re: Xbox 20th Anniversary: The Best Xbox Launch Games
I would happily put the OG Xbox up there with the PSP, Dreamcast and Wii as one of the most (if not THE most) successful console launch lineup of all time. Within a few weeks we got Panzer Dragoon Orta and JSRF too.
The Xbox 360 would have come close if it wasn't for the fact that the campaign in Perfect Dark Zero was terrible and Microsoft split their launch market into happy customers who brought the Pro console and unhappy ones who ended up with the terrible Core unit. Also you forgot Hexic.
The Xbox One launch was actually better than I remember and the console launched with so much promise. Then Microsoft chopped off lots of cool features like Snap, cancelled all their 1st party games and, well it took them 3 years to bring it back.
The Series X had an embarrassing launch IMO. No great console exclusives and nothing you could let buy elsewhere compared to the new titles and clever hardware tricks of the PS5. A year later however and this is Microsoft's best Christmas since 2002 in terms of software.
Re: Xbox 20th Anniversary: Which Xbox Generation Has Been The Best?
Whilst I would happily argue that the Xbox 360 is probably the greatest console ever made, I reckon the Series X will be the best simply because it also works with all the previous ones.
Re: 10+ Classic Games Mysteriously Added To Old Xbox Marketplace
I'll grab Red Dead Revolver in a heartbeat.
Here's hoping SSX Tricky gets a release too.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Passes 4.5 Million Players, Biggest Launch Day In Xbox Game Studios History
Bloody brilliant bar the inability to preview car decals before applying them.....
Re: Rumour: Xbox Fans Will 'Definitely' Want To Watch The 20th Anniversary Show
What if they offered the emulator they use for BC as a beta download so you can play all your old disks without any bother?
Re: Everything You Need To Know About Forza Horizon 5 On Xbox Game Pass
For the record BST ended a week ago and now we are back to GMT
Re: Roundup: Here’s What The Critics Are Saying About Forza Horizon 5
"Even amidst a competitive racing field, Forza Horizon 5 is a finely tuned supercar." - GameInformer
What competition? This isn't the Xbox 360 days when we were drowning in racing titles. There are some good quality indie racing titles like Horizon Chase but apart from sub-par efforts like The Crew 2, can anyone name a big racing franchise that isn't Forza, Gran Turismo or Mario Kart?
Re: Square Enix Suggests Crystal Dynamics Was A Bad Fit For Marvel’s Avengers
@Alduin I give it a few months before the sale is finalised. With any luck Microsoft will demand a few franchises as well like Legacy of Kain which SE will never do anything with. Its doubtful they will let Tomb Raider go though.
Re: Review: Forza Horizon 5 - An Amazing Game, But One That's A Little Too Familiar
More of the same sounds good to me. There isn't much more that could be done with the open-world racing genre anyway. The Crew 2 succeeded at using alternate modes of transport but the map was too big and featureless.
Maybe one day Sony might make some sort of Blade Runner-esque open world WipEout (which would probably be terrible) and surely Nintendo are building a Mario Kart World open kart racer but until then, we haver Forza.
Re: Talking Point: What’s Your Scariest Video Game Moment?
I remember babysitting my neighbours kid one night. I was playing their import copy of Silent Hill at 1am in the dark and all I can hear is the footsteps of their doberman plodding around the garden outside. Scary as.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Spotting More Potential New Backwards Compatible Games
@Bobobiwan Its not just that. How hard would it really be to put Rez on the B/C list?
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Is A 'Phenomenal Experience' On Xbox Series X, Says Digital Foundry
I imagine the game will still look good on the X1. Forza Horizon 1 still look great in my eyes and the weather in number 2 is gorgeous. Playground wouldn't make a duff game.
Re: Poll: Are You Buying GTA: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition?
Rockstar isn't stupid. They know that everyone's favourite GTA is Vice City. Why do you think this isn't on Game Pass or PSNow?
The original hasn't aged well and San Andreas is both too big and too of its time to be considered a classic. Yeah you can highjack a jumbo jet but the story hasn't aged well.
The 1980's satire of Vice City will never get old and Tommy Vercetti is one of gaming's greatest leading men.
Re: Xbox To Host Special 20th Anniversary Event This November
@mousieone They could just read out 4 letters and close the stream:
J
S
R
F
Re: Rumour: Seven Original Xbox Games That Could Be Getting Backwards Compatibility
They only need to add one game. Just one.
Jet. Set. Radio. Future.
Charge $50 if it's going to cost this much to relicence all the music but make it happen!
Re: Ghost Recon Frontline Is Met With Tremendous Backlash On YouTube
I don't see where this fits in. If you want a more serious BR game you play Warzone. If you want a more anarchic almost cartoon-like experience you play Fortnite. If you want to BR on your phone PUBG is a solid bet and if you want quick play games Butter Royale is a hoot.
Its like they just copied Warzone.
Re: Pick One: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox James Bond Game?
I can understand why you missed off GoldenEye. It’s a much better Bond game than anything since but it was massively surpassed by Perfect Dark which is still the greatest FPS ever made (I’ll hear arguments against though)
So I voted for Everything or Nothing. It was a pretty decent game elevated by EA’s Hollywood production values. They even had a Bond Theme composed!
Re: Phil Spencer 'Thrilled' To Have Crystal Dynamics Partnering On Perfect Dark
So that’s a purchase of Crystal Dynamics on the cards for Microsoft then.
I wonder who holds the Legacy of Kain licence these days….🤔
Re: Xbox Game Pass Players Have Discovered Hidden Cheat Codes In SkateBird
Cheat codes in a modern video game? You mean I don’t have to buy them as DLC?! Madness!
Re: Pick One: Are You More Interested In COD Or Battlefield This Year?
This is the year Halo finally gives them both a kicking.
Re: Talking Point: Is Xbox Missing Out By Leaving The Superheroes To PlayStation?
Let’s be honest: every game is in some way a superhero game. As the protagonist of the story you likely have something special that sets you apart from the common enemies and NPC’s. In many cases it is your human reactions that set you apart from the AI making you super heroic in that world (like Captain N!)
How for example is Wolverine any more ‘super’ than Sparrow from Fable 2 or Sonic the Hedgehog?
Re: Older Xbox Controllers To Receive 'Next-Gen' Firmware Update
All I really want is a small dongle that will let me use my old 360 controllers on the Series X.
Re: Xbox Claiming It 'Fights For Game Preservation' Is Met With Backlash
@WCB Both. You can FTP over roms via a local web interface or run them from USB. The X1 will do anything up to the N64 and PSP pretty well.
The Series S is an emulation powerhouse able to run GameCube and Dreamcast games at full speed.
Re: Xbox Claiming It 'Fights For Game Preservation' Is Met With Backlash
Given you can dev unlock your Xbox and install RetroArch I would agree with Microsoft
Re: Sensible Soccer's Spiritual Successor Kicks Off On Xbox In 2022
This is actually a terrible game. It’s a good thing we have SWOS on Series X which is a lot more than PlayStation and Nintendo
Re: Xbox Teases 'Exclusive News' For The Tokyo Game Show 2021
Realistic announcement: Final Fantasy VII Remake coming to Game Pass before Christmas.
Wishful thinking: JSRF rerelease on B/C.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Feeling About Halo Infinite After Recent News?
Really looking forward to it. I really enjoyed the campaigns from 4 and 5. They were a huge step up in pacing over the first 2 games (although Reach still has the best in the series) and didn’t have any endless corridors for padding.
Co-op is fun but I’d rather play it through in single player first before launching into a buddy mission with my sons anyway.
I can live with multiplayer challenges after playing Fortnite for 3 years. If anything just getting XP for playing the matches makes things a little dull. Doing the challenges encourages different play styles and to get better at the game. A footballer doesn’t get better just sat on a bench every game!
Re: Replaced Devs On Xbox Game Pass: Developers Should Grab This Opportunity And Never Look Back
It seems like a financial no-brainer: take a large upfront payment for Gamepass on your risky indie property that might not break even and then use the publicity from that to then eventually port the title to rival platforms and get more sales.
Re: Strangely, Halo Infinite Won't Give You XP For Just Playing Matches
Without seeing the challenges we cannot pass judgement. For all we know 343 have devised a clever set of challenges that encourage the player to get better at the game rather than just rewards for turning up.
This does kind of suck in many ways for those of us like me who are rubbish at FPS games but still want to play them, however they might also have played a lot of Titanfall and stolen their ideas for making sure rubbish players feel valued.
Re: Video: Prepare To Have Your Mind Blown By The First Eight Minutes Of Forza Horizon 5
Demo needed now!
Re: Bad News, Call Of Duty: Vanguard's August Alpha Won't Be On Xbox
Good news, kids: you can recreate the Call of Duty alpha experience in your own neighbourhood!
Get yourself an old nerf gun and then walk 50 paces in one direction. Now imagine yourself shooting endlessly recycling badguys for 5 minutes. Turn 90 degrees in one direction and walk another 50 paces. Turn 90 degrees again and walk 25 paces. Imagine yourself shooting some more endless goons for 5 minutes.
Repeat until bored.
Re: Assassin's Creed Odyssey Is Officially Getting A 60FPS Boost For Xbox Series X, Series S
Sadly it makes the game twice as smooth rather than twice as fast.
Re: 343 Industries Talked About, But Decided Against Delaying Halo Infinite Past 2021
The loss of campaign co-op at launch isn’t as big as many fans make out and Forge is a nice feature to have but ultimately only for a tiny %age of fans.
The rest of us get campaign on Gamepass (because nobody is paying $50 for it) and a nice ongoing multiplayer that plays really well.
Re: Random: James McAvoy Got So Addicted To Oblivion On Xbox 360, He Destroyed The Disc
I’m with him on Battle Royale. Unable to see my friends (well, 3 live in another city and 1 lives in another country) we started playing Fortnite on a Thursday night as a weekly hangout and we’ve kept it going for the last 18 months. I don’t think we have ever missed a week either.
Our friend who lives in Turkey recently moved to Cambodia and he gets up at 5am his time (11pm UK time) to play with us for an hour before he goes to work and we go to bed!
Re: Halo Infinite Won't Include Co-Op Or Forge At Launch This Fall
The thing is co-op in Halo only got fun when Reach came out. 1-3 are great games but they do suffer from a lot of padding, CE especially. Co-op in that was great because at least you had someone to talk to whilst navigating the endless corridors between firefights!
Split-screen I get because of the increased processing required but I however don’t see why online co-op couldn’t have been integrated for launch. How much extra coding would that require beyond taking the template from Halo 5?
Re: Don't Worry, Call Of Duty: Vanguard Isn't 270GB On Xbox
I want to enjoy COD but I always felt the level designer who they poached from Bungie got a raw deal. They only hired him based on his fantastic use of a ruler and pencil in padding out Halo CE with endless corridors and this is all they got.
Re: These Nine Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (August 17-26)
I keep replaying the Demo waiting patiently for 23rd September and the GP launch of Sable.
Re: Pick One: Which Is Your Favourite Original Xbox GTA Game?
Vice City again. Killer soundtrack, chopper for the first time, fantastic lead character and great game mechanics.
San Andreas was too big. 4 and 5 went too far down the Tarantino nonsense path instead of hilarious satire of the previous ones.
Shout out to Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories on the PSP. They were pretty boss too.
Re: The Xbox Series S Is A 'Genuine Engineering Marvel', Says Analysis
@The_New_Butler I would argue storage isn’t an issue. The smallest amount of games you could fit on it from a next gen perspective is 5, based on a 95gb installation size.
Are you really playing this many games at once?
Re: Talking Point: Which Game Has The Best Photo Mode?
@Royalblues The entire series has great photo modes. I have some great snaps from even the first game. https://500px.com/photo/1022226578/colorado-fall-by-carlstjames
Re: Random: Halo's Legendary Multiplayer Announcer Does Voice Lines From Destiny 2
“Master Chief, the Covenant have found earth abd are preparing to glass the planet. You need to go out and complete bounties for Cortana. These will allow you to collect 500 samples of HaloWeave which you can then transform into HaloShards at the Tower.”
“Which tower, Sir?”
“I don’t even have time to tell you why I don’t have time to tell you. Once you have 50 HaloShards you can trade these for bounties which will earn you HaloMarks which you can then spend on HaloLight at the Tower. Each 5 HaloLight will give you 5 minutes of boosted HaloCoins from the Covenant loot drops.”
“I need a weapon!”
“You will have to go out and earn HaloCoins to buy one from the Vendors at our base.”
<Meanwhile in space>
“FIRE THE GLASS CANNON! NO FOE CAN WITHSTAND OUR MIGHT!”
<GAME OVER>
Re: Pick One: Which Codemasters Racer Are You Most Excited For On Xbox Game Pass?
Given they have the Sensible Software back catalogue I’d be interested in an HD update and port of Cannon Fodder. Thankfully we already have SWOS.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Video Game Sequel?
@mousieone XIII-2 is one of my favourite in the whole series. Fantastic game.
I think X-2 is probably the worst in the whole series.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Video Game Sequel?
Assassin’s Creed 2 is the ultimate sequel. It corrects everything bad about the first game whilst standing on feet so tall many still consider it to be the best in the series. I’d love a remake with a 1:1 recreation of Venice not unlike Paris from AC Unity.
Fable 2 gets a nod too for correcting the mistakes of the original and if Forza Horizon never existed it would be the best 1st party game on the 360.
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Shares Concerns With Xbox Game Pass Model
I consider game pass a rental service. If a game comes out I like the look of I’ll stump for a month and then give it a go. If I like it I will probably wait a few months and grab it on sale.
Re: Konami Is Replacing PES With 'eFootball', A New Free-To-Play Experience
This seems like a smart move, especially if progress carries over to mobile too (where the heck is the Switch version?!)
It would be nice to see Konami experiment with the always online nature of the game a little by offering some crazy game modes like 50v50 on a regular pitch or a quick play 5-a-side mode with no outs.
Re: Soapbox: Forza Horizon 5 Will Be Great, But I Hope It Does More With Its Radio Stations
I want a good Mexican music station. Hispanic hip hop is actually pretty good.
Hands down the best game for music is FH1. A good mix of new and old music (New Order, Stone Roses) all meant for driving and DJs that enhances the motoring festival backdrop.
Re: New Forza Horizon 5 Details Confirm Convertibles, Drag Races And Flamingos
I know how this sounds out loud but one thing that annoyed me about FH4 was the lack of inclusion on the default characters at the beginning. There was actually a good amount of female, Asian and Afro Caribbean characters to pick from; it’s just (and again, I know how this sounds) both white guy options had blonde hair. There was no dark hair option or ginger and you don’t see that many men of any racial background with blonde hair!
An actual avatar creator would be most welcome.
Re: Talking Point: How Useful Have You Found The 'HDMI In' Port On Your Xbox One?
I do miss Snap. It was helpful to put YouTube up so you can follow through a game walkthrough. I used to use my 360 as my primary TV box with Sky back in the day and fell in love with the Xbox One multimedia push on day one.
Now it does none of those things. It’s not the same machine I bought in 2013.