I enjoyed it and jumped a few times post-game. I actually think the story and the space magic ruins the game.
Bethesda crafted this incredibly deep space role playing experience where you can be anything from a farmer to an academic to a smuggler to Captain Kirk. Running missions for the different factions and doing the side quest plots are a lot of fun. I felt the Delgado one was the best in the game.
But the missions for Constellation and the power collection? Ruins the game. They should have had the balls to cut it completely. Once you’ve killed the pirates on the starting planet and got your first ship it should have been you and Vasco against the galaxy: go where you like, do what you like.
Just a nitpick: why does longevity have to be synonymous with progress? Sports is about fun as much as competition. I don’t badly shoot hoops at the park or still play SWOS on my Xbox because of progress; I do it because I enjoy it. Assuming the game mechanics are as fun as they sound, people will be playing this for years.
Most games built for the Series X and PS5 still have stupid amounts of pop-in, texture filtering and model rendering as you move around the environment.
If devs aimed for a 1080p30 on the Series S within its limitations and then ‘ported’ it to run at better frame rates on the bigger consoles these sort of things wouldn’t be an issue.
And before anybody claims it would make games look worse, they got the PS4 to run Forbidden West and it looked utterly gorgeous. The Series S is a lot beefier than the PS4.
@SuntannedDuck2 I’ll admit I prefer unorthodox control methods. I normally map LB to jump so I can leap around in shooters without taking my hands off the sticks.
How is clicking the right stick melee or interact?! Who came up with that one?
It’s 2024 and I’m sick of developers forcing their control schemes on us. Every single platform holder should mandate that every game must have completely rebindable keys AND not have one button do several functions as to mess up custom controls. I’m looking at you, AC Valhalla.
And no, doing it at a system level doesn’t count. On Xbox you can’t switch the triggers for face buttons.
Are these the only two options in Outlaws? How is crouch not R3?!?
@Kobeandodom What about hardware? Hundreds of Android handsets all run the same OS and play the exact same games. There are dozens of PC vendors whose machines have the same relative hardware under the hood.
If there were no platform exclusivity people would still buy the hardware because it did something different to the PlayStation; it’s just they’d never have to worry about isolating themselves from their friends to play online.
Some people see this as dilution of the brand but honestly I love playing Sea of Thieves with my PS5 owning friends and I’d love to do the same with Forza Horizon and Halo.
If you need exclusive titles to somehow justify to yourself the existence of your console, you need to ask why you even play videogames. It’s not the playground of 1992 anymore; the collapse of the Dreamcast worked wonders for my GameCube library.
If Microsoft can get Valve to bring Steam to the Xbox then it becomes the perfect platform to simplify play of PC titles. You’d also be able to play Sony’s PC ports too, benefiting everybody.
The Series X launched with no first party exclusives. Zero. If somebody bought into some sort of vision it was a combination of a laudable attempt to maintain access to past purchases, the ability to play 3rd party games in 4K and being duped into perpetually renting games for all eternity instead of owning anything.
What difference does it make if Microsoft port their big games to the PS5? Looking at the comments above you’d think it was a life or death situation or something.
The value of your gaming platform is not in its exclusive titles; these aren’t the playground days of Sega vs Nintendo anymore. The value is in what it offers you personally.
Would your lives truly be any worse if Forza Horizon 5 or Halo Infinite came out on PlayStation?
Not doomed by any stretch, but we are in a recession-like environment where customers are thriftier than ever.
In this market you have the market leader having been around for 7 years and the competitors either costing $400 or people thinking the $249 option is underpowered.
Microsoft need to spend some money on marketing and get the message out there that the Series S is in no way an inferior option. If there was a $249 1080p PS5 it would be flying off the shelves.
@Nintendo4Sonic I’ve played most of them. MW3 is the worst. It’s like Activision let their intern level designer, the kid with a set square and a ruler become the director.
Sony and Microsoft don’t want to make the same mistake twice and underestimate Nintendo. Do they lose software sales to them? Perhaps not but if I have £50 to spend on a new Switch game or a new Xbox one I’m going to buy the one I can play on my lunch break.
I do wonder if they’ll both chill with the spec beefing a bit and consolidate their software tools so we can get 1080p60 as a minimum across the board? There is lots of room for innovation that doesn’t require faster processors.
@Rodimusprime13 Despite it’s high quality this was a show designed to get new young people interested in Trek and it had the opposite effect and appealed more to nostalgia.
The little time I have to play games makes Game Pass pointless. It’s cheaper to wait until a game is on sale, buy it (to keep) and then play it for the next 3 months.
@themightyant Amen. I have one just because the other 2 4K consoles are hideously large and would look ugly under my TV.
I’ve yet to play a Series S game that looked or played terribly and I’ve been through every major 1st party title. Forza 5 and Ghostwire looked lovely.
The Xbox platform has always had a gaping hole in it where family games are concerned. Parents generally buy Nintendo or PlayStation platforms to play games with their kids, although there will be exceptions.
Build it and they will come I suppose but there isn’t really a market there. They’ll sell 10x the copies on Switch they would on Xbox sadly.
Counterpoint: it’s endless grindy campaign, unholy squashed Map and loot box mechanics for every. Damned. unlockable. makes it the worst in the series.
5 writers a lot of the wrongs with an avatar creator, the ability to buy clothes and a really good campaign.
An actual ending to the festival campaign which was arguably the worst in the series.
A way to unlock avatar items outside of the bloody wheel spins. It was so frustrating having to grind the game for loot boxes just to try and get the shirt or trousers you wanted. There is a running joke with my kids that everything I ever got in that game was some sort of garish pink sparkly item.
A character creator. The pre-designed avatars represented a very narrow set of players. There was no ginger/redhead options. No east-Asian male or subcontinent female. No non-blonde white guy or girl options. I’m all for diversity but it’s either all or nothing. Whoever signed off on them all should have been fired. How is Mr. Mosby going to make himself?
A silly map that attempted to squash everything between Edinburgh and the Cotswolds into 5 square miles. They should have set the whole thing in the Lake District instead, a nice facsimile of everything between Carlisle and Barrow-in-Furnace, the M6 to the Irish Sea. They could then have done a Manx TT DLC with motorbikes!
Oh, and mixing the Lego cars into the regular map was dumb.
Apart from this it was an ok game but I’d say it’s easily the low-point of the entire Horizon series.
Not that I’m bothered because none of those games have any appeal to me personally but I think they’ll be drip feeding them in over several months rather than dropping them all at once.
What’s the point in Fable if you can’t create your own narrative? That was half the fun of the Fable 2 and what still sets it apart from more modern RPGs.
My only complaint is that I don’t really like Gears of War. I would have loved to see something Forza Horizon related. They did naff all for the 10th anniversary back in 2022 and FH5 is getting a bit long in the tooth. Even a rerelease of 1-3 so that we can actually buy and play them would have been ok.
@NEStalgia If they can make it run a miniaturised version of the Xbox One chipset then it has 100% backwards compatibility with your entire Xbox library without streaming. I’d happily play a portable with Fable 2 and Forza Horizon 1!
If Witcher 3 can run on the Switch and somebody can program bacteria to display Doom then the barrier isn’t the Series S; it’s the ingenuity of programmers.
The PC market is great but being able to pass the spec ceiling costs onto gamers has made developers lazy. What happened to the stories of devs reusing raw code to create static and save a few Kb of RAM or the Ocarina of Time sky cube illusion?
Definitely recommended. I would love to play* it at the cinema with the full Dolby experience.
*I say ‘play’ because of the actually gameplay bits the combat is tense but too frequent and the puzzles a chore. Had they have gone with a Dear Esther/Firewatch/Rapture-style linear storytelling experience interspersed with the odd tense boss battle I think it would have been a much better experience. Putting the combat on auto does help.
As a piece of interactive art it’s unparalleled. The sound design is wonderful and it’s very pretty in a bleak sort of way (but not as nice to look at as Forbidden West) The 1-1 fights are intense.
But the puzzles don’t add anything to the experience and after 7 years of development you’d think they could have added a bit of facial variety to the enemies. Remove the combat (which you can automate) and you have a great short film.
And for some reason they forgot to add in a setting to flip the y-axis which is just dumb.
I think a 7/10 is about right. I think it has more in common with games like Dear Esther and Everybody’s Gone To The Rapture, two games I really loved which I know are not everyone’s cup of tea.
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Re: Poll: How Much Would You Pay For An Xbox Series X Pro?
Only if they somehow managed to squash the Series X into a Series S-sized chassis.
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
“Devs are getting lazier at porting games properly so we’ve launched a £700 console to solve that problem.”
Re: Bungie Reveals 'Future Of Destiny 2' As Original Game Celebrates 10-Year Anniversary
Destiny 2 is an absolute mess of a game, with unplayable old campaigns and obtuse mechanics that confuse complexity for depth.
Rip it all down and build Destiny 3
Re: It's Been 365 Days Since One Of The Biggest Releases Of The Xbox Series X|S Era
I enjoyed it and jumped a few times post-game. I actually think the story and the space magic ruins the game.
Bethesda crafted this incredibly deep space role playing experience where you can be anything from a farmer to an academic to a smuggler to Captain Kirk. Running missions for the different factions and doing the side quest plots are a lot of fun. I felt the Delgado one was the best in the game.
But the missions for Constellation and the power collection? Ruins the game. They should have had the balls to cut it completely. Once you’ve killed the pirates on the starting planet and got your first ship it should have been you and Vasco against the galaxy: go where you like, do what you like.
Re: Review: Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions (Xbox) - An Enjoyable And Surprisingly In-Depth Sports Game
Just a nitpick: why does longevity have to be synonymous with progress? Sports is about fun as much as competition. I don’t badly shoot hoops at the park or still play SWOS on my Xbox because of progress; I do it because I enjoy it. Assuming the game mechanics are as fun as they sound, people will be playing this for years.
Re: Stalker 2 Hits The Headlines For Apparently Running At '25FPS' On Xbox Series S
@smoreon And as sales of the Switch will testify, graphics do not mean much to the mass market.
Re: Stalker 2 Hits The Headlines For Apparently Running At '25FPS' On Xbox Series S
Most games built for the Series X and PS5 still have stupid amounts of pop-in, texture filtering and model rendering as you move around the environment.
If devs aimed for a 1080p30 on the Series S within its limitations and then ‘ported’ it to run at better frame rates on the bigger consoles these sort of things wouldn’t be an issue.
And before anybody claims it would make games look worse, they got the PS4 to run Forbidden West and it looked utterly gorgeous. The Series S is a lot beefier than the PS4.
Re: Xbox IP Spotted In Upcoming PS5 Exclusive Astro Bot
It’s not really ‘Microsoft IP’ is it like Halo or Gears. We’re talking about a 1990’s PlayStation mascot they recently acquired.
Re: Xbox Fan Highlights 'Biggest Gripe' With Star Wars Outlaws Which You Can Easily Fix
@SuntannedDuck2 I’ll admit I prefer unorthodox control methods. I normally map LB to jump so I can leap around in shooters without taking my hands off the sticks.
Re: Multiple Games Announced For Xbox Following August 2024's Nintendo Direct
It’s nice that Konami and Namco remember the Xbox exists.
But come on Capcom, where the heck is that fighting collection? I need some Power Stone on my Xbox.
Re: Xbox Fan Highlights 'Biggest Gripe' With Star Wars Outlaws Which You Can Easily Fix
How is clicking the right stick melee or interact?! Who came up with that one?
It’s 2024 and I’m sick of developers forcing their control schemes on us. Every single platform holder should mandate that every game must have completely rebindable keys AND not have one button do several functions as to mess up custom controls. I’m looking at you, AC Valhalla.
And no, doing it at a system level doesn’t count. On Xbox you can’t switch the triggers for face buttons.
Are these the only two options in Outlaws? How is crouch not R3?!?
Re: Switch Drummer 'Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythm Festival' Coming To Xbox
This is great news! I love the Arcade version enough that I might buy the drum controller…..
Re: Phil Spencer On Game Exclusivity: 'We Have To Anticipate There's Going To Be More Change'
@Kobeandodom What about hardware? Hundreds of Android handsets all run the same OS and play the exact same games. There are dozens of PC vendors whose machines have the same relative hardware under the hood.
If there were no platform exclusivity people would still buy the hardware because it did something different to the PlayStation; it’s just they’d never have to worry about isolating themselves from their friends to play online.
Re: Phil Spencer On Game Exclusivity: 'We Have To Anticipate There's Going To Be More Change'
Some people see this as dilution of the brand but honestly I love playing Sea of Thieves with my PS5 owning friends and I’d love to do the same with Forza Horizon and Halo.
If you need exclusive titles to somehow justify to yourself the existence of your console, you need to ask why you even play videogames. It’s not the playground of 1992 anymore; the collapse of the Dreamcast worked wonders for my GameCube library.
If Microsoft can get Valve to bring Steam to the Xbox then it becomes the perfect platform to simplify play of PC titles. You’d also be able to play Sony’s PC ports too, benefiting everybody.
Re: Xbox Insider Insists Forza Horizon 5 Will Go Multiplatform At Some Point
Number 6 please!
Re: Rumour: Xbox To Announce 'Big' Game For PS5 Next Week
@PsBoxSwitchOwner The thing is what vision?
The Series X launched with no first party exclusives. Zero. If somebody bought into some sort of vision it was a combination of a laudable attempt to maintain access to past purchases, the ability to play 3rd party games in 4K and being duped into perpetually renting games for all eternity instead of owning anything.
Re: Rumour: Xbox To Announce 'Big' Game For PS5 Next Week
What difference does it make if Microsoft port their big games to the PS5? Looking at the comments above you’d think it was a life or death situation or something.
The value of your gaming platform is not in its exclusive titles; these aren’t the playground days of Sega vs Nintendo anymore. The value is in what it offers you personally.
Would your lives truly be any worse if Forza Horizon 5 or Halo Infinite came out on PlayStation?
Re: Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown Dev Reveals Tech Specs For Xbox Series X|S
@AccessibleDaydream The asterisk mentioned only being able to run Sonic 2 at those speeds.
Re: New 'Leaked' Footage Suggests Starfield's Land Vehicles Will Be A Game Changer
All the power of modern consoles and we still have pop-in. Have graphics really moved on since the PS1 or are game worlds just too bloody big?
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales 'Holding Close' To Xbox 360 In The US, Says Analyst
Not doomed by any stretch, but we are in a recession-like environment where customers are thriftier than ever.
In this market you have the market leader having been around for 7 years and the competitors either costing $400 or people thinking the $249 option is underpowered.
Microsoft need to spend some money on marketing and get the message out there that the Series S is in no way an inferior option. If there was a $249 1080p PS5 it would be flying off the shelves.
Re: Xbox Attracts Controversy Over New McDonald's Ad On The Dashboard
We had it on the Xbox 360. It’s really not an issue.
Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Game In July 2024?
Imagine Modern Warfare 3, the worst CoD game being your game of July 😂
Call of Duty 4 can still be played online. The PC lobbies are stacked!
Re: How To Install Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 On Xbox Game Pass
@Nintendo4Sonic I’ve played most of them. MW3 is the worst. It’s like Activision let their intern level designer, the kid with a set square and a ruler become the director.
Re: 3000+ Themes & Gamer Pics Will Be Delisted On Xbox 360 Next Week
I just wish they’d port the NXE over to the Series S/X. The 360 dash was fantastic.
Re: How To Install Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 On Xbox Game Pass
This one is dead easy:
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think This Generation Will Be A Short One?
Sony and Microsoft don’t want to make the same mistake twice and underestimate Nintendo. Do they lose software sales to them? Perhaps not but if I have £50 to spend on a new Switch game or a new Xbox one I’m going to buy the one I can play on my lunch break.
I do wonder if they’ll both chill with the spec beefing a bit and consolidate their software tools so we can get 1080p60 as a minimum across the board? There is lots of room for innovation that doesn’t require faster processors.
Re: Halo TV Show Cancelled By Paramount+ After Two Seasons
@Rodimusprime13 Despite it’s high quality this was a show designed to get new young people interested in Trek and it had the opposite effect and appealed more to nostalgia.
Re: Talking Point: If You Had To Limit Yourself To Three Xbox Games, What Would They Be?
Forza Horizon 1
Fable 2
Geometry Wars
It took me 2 seconds to answer that
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
The little time I have to play games makes Game Pass pointless. It’s cheaper to wait until a game is on sale, buy it (to keep) and then play it for the next 3 months.
Re: Here's A Final Look At The Xbox 360's Best-Selling 'Arcade' Games
I wish they’d port the Xbox 360 dash to the Series and bin the current one.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Appears To Have Passed 600K Sales In Japan
@nomither6 With the rising costs of development it won’t end any time soon
Re: Xbox Series X|S Appears To Have Passed 600K Sales In Japan
@themightyant Amen. I have one just because the other 2 4K consoles are hideously large and would look ugly under my TV.
I’ve yet to play a Series S game that looked or played terribly and I’ve been through every major 1st party title. Forza 5 and Ghostwire looked lovely.
Re: LEGO Horizon Adventures Dev Gives Non-Answer For Lack Of Xbox Version
The Xbox platform has always had a gaping hole in it where family games are concerned. Parents generally buy Nintendo or PlayStation platforms to play games with their kids, although there will be exceptions.
Build it and they will come I suppose but there isn’t really a market there. They’ll sell 10x the copies on Switch they would on Xbox sadly.
Re: Soapbox: Forza Horizon 4 Hosted The Best Racing In The Series, And I'll Be Sad To See It Go
Counterpoint: it’s endless grindy campaign, unholy squashed Map and loot box mechanics for every. Damned. unlockable. makes it the worst in the series.
5 writers a lot of the wrongs with an avatar creator, the ability to buy clothes and a really good campaign.
Re: Forza Horizon 4 To Be Delisted On Xbox And PC In December 2024
@awp69 It’s not just you! We found it a bit dull as well. The Colorado map was much better.
Re: Forza Horizon 4 To Be Delisted On Xbox And PC In December 2024
A great game let down by 4 daft things:
Oh, and mixing the Lego cars into the regular map was dumb.
Apart from this it was an ok game but I’d say it’s easily the low-point of the entire Horizon series.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Xbox Expansion Of All Time?
Knothole Island was a hoot
Re: Xbox's 2024 Showcase Was Great, But It Was Missing A Big ActiBlizz Announcement
Not that I’m bothered because none of those games have any appeal to me personally but I think they’ll be drip feeding them in over several months rather than dropping them all at once.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Feeling About Fable After The Xbox Games Showcase?
@Lup ^^This
What’s the point in Fable if you can’t create your own narrative? That was half the fun of the Fable 2 and what still sets it apart from more modern RPGs.
Re: Forza Horizon Fans, The Crew Motorfest Could Be Well Worth Checking Out Later This Year
Don’t bother. The driving mechanics are strangely ‘gravelly’ and the festival shtick comes off as a bit try-hard.
Re: Starfield Is Getting Review Bombed (Again)
At the end of the day don’t modders deserve to get paid?
Re: Reaction: Xbox's 2024 Showcase Felt Like A Throwback To The 360 Era, In The Best Way Possible
My only complaint is that I don’t really like Gears of War. I would have loved to see something Forza Horizon related. They did naff all for the 10th anniversary back in 2022 and FH5 is getting a bit long in the tooth. Even a rerelease of 1-3 so that we can actually buy and play them would have been ok.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2024?
@LocalPenguin It was a throwback because just like the original title it took Dom 5 minutes to kill one enemy 😉
Re: Rumour: Xbox Showcase To Feature First-Party Shadow Drop, Details On Portable Console
@NEStalgia If they can make it run a miniaturised version of the Xbox One chipset then it has 100% backwards compatibility with your entire Xbox library without streaming. I’d happily play a portable with Fable 2 and Forza Horizon 1!
Re: Rumour: Xbox Showcase To Feature First-Party Shadow Drop, Details On Portable Console
I love how some of the tweets think there is an actual first party title called ‘Shadow Drop’ on the way. It’s kind of sweet.
Re: Xbox Series S Under Fire As Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 Tech Specs Revealed
If Witcher 3 can run on the Switch and somebody can program bacteria to display Doom then the barrier isn’t the Series S; it’s the ingenuity of programmers.
The PC market is great but being able to pass the spec ceiling costs onto gamers has made developers lazy. What happened to the stories of devs reusing raw code to create static and save a few Kb of RAM or the Ocarina of Time sky cube illusion?
Re: Bethesda Developers Now Have Stronger Employee Rights Within Microsoft
Given the state of their last few games and patches together with Microsoft’s axe wielding they probably need it.
Re: Ninja Theory Explains Why Headphones Are So Important In Hellblade 2
@CutchuSlow Stereo is fine. Were talking about some light incidental music, the directional voices and speech here not John Williams.
Re: Ninja Theory Explains Why Headphones Are So Important In Hellblade 2
Definitely recommended. I would love to play* it at the cinema with the full Dolby experience.
*I say ‘play’ because of the actually gameplay bits the combat is tense but too frequent and the puzzles a chore. Had they have gone with a Dear Esther/Firewatch/Rapture-style linear storytelling experience interspersed with the odd tense boss battle I think it would have been a much better experience. Putting the combat on auto does help.
Re: Review: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 (Xbox): An Incredible Spectacle That Lacks An Essential Hook
As a piece of interactive art it’s unparalleled. The sound design is wonderful and it’s very pretty in a bleak sort of way (but not as nice to look at as Forbidden West) The 1-1 fights are intense.
But the puzzles don’t add anything to the experience and after 7 years of development you’d think they could have added a bit of facial variety to the enemies. Remove the combat (which you can automate) and you have a great short film.
And for some reason they forgot to add in a setting to flip the y-axis which is just dumb.
I think a 7/10 is about right. I think it has more in common with games like Dear Esther and Everybody’s Gone To The Rapture, two games I really loved which I know are not everyone’s cup of tea.