I fell right for Microsoft’s vision when I got my first Windows Phone 7 device. My little Avatar lived in my phone and my mobile gaming counted towards my profile. I bought a 360 a bit late in the day and never looked back. Games like Fable 2 and Forza Horizon 1 I replay at least once a year.
I stuck with the Xbox One because of backwards compatibility and the promise of new Fable and Forza. Horizon has gone on to become Microsoft’s tentpole franchise and they made a dumb mistake shuttering Lionhead.
I stuck with the Series S out of price, legacy purchase access and its physical dimensions. It’s a lovely little console with some great games.
If Xbox became Steam and suddenly every purchase I had made over the years was compatible with the PS5, Steamdeck or perhaps my iPhone, I’d be very happy.
I can see them quitting hardware because it’s a loss leader. Or rather a future Xbox console will just be a small PC made from off the shelf parts rather than some custom silicon.
So… don’t bother? Warzone is F2P and nobody cares about the campaign. The older games are cheap as chips. Nobody is calling for COD on Game Pass and it’s not going to tempt over any PS5 owners.
@Fiendish-Beaver I would happily buy a Switch-sized console that could play all my old Xbox 360 purchases. Fable 2 and Forza Horizon would make wonderful portable titles.
@Fiendish-Beaver Xbox could just become a PC you stick under your TV that happens to play games. Microsoft could then open it up to 3rd party storefronts like Steam, GOG and Epic.
If they did make it like a PC it would then be compatible with all Sony’s PC releases. There’s definitely a market there.
At first I was on board but their comments are hypocritical. They claim to want Xbox on every screen and yet won’t release an xcloud app for iOS despite this being unrelated to the EU stuff.
Basically they admitted that they only released xcloud on Android to crush Stadia because otherwise why bother at all?
I reckon this will be further reaching than expected. I fully expect every 360-era exclusive to launch on PS and Switch. A portable Fable 2 would be sweeeeet.
Whilst as gamers we do week out exclusive titles to give our purchases meaning and let us be ‘one of the tribe’ this hasn’t been true of the Series X since launch. Against Sony’s lineup of exclusives and variety of titles for the PS5 the Series X had….. nothing.
@XboxistheBestBox Microsoft would do well to listen to the complaints about the PS5 from gamers and get more single player adventure titles and weird Japanese curio titles out the door asap.
Sony are spacing out the single player games but the PS4 existed on a diet of PSP ports for its weirdness. Sony have since closed their Japan Studio
I imagine he doesn’t want to be in a Pedro Pascal position where they just use your voice and get stuntmen to do all the acting. Fair play to him I say. It really doesn’t matter if he removes his helmet, boinks or even laughs at a joke because it’s an /adaptation/ of another piece of fiction. If it were the same fans would moan about that!
You’re in for a treat, Xbox players. It lacks all the F2P trappings games like PSO2 use. There is an online store so you can level skip to miss the first part of the story or buy some cosmetics but it’s on a web page and not accessible in-game.
The base game includes the Heavensward expansion. The rest are extra and include a few classes.
I really wish Microsoft would use Azure to back it up so you can stream it on any platform.
I wonder if we are due a developer direct soon? We don’t really have much information about what is out and when. Some concrete releases and a few surprises can’t hurt.
I have never seen a game nail it's aesthetic and theme like this first try. It set the bar so high that none of the sequels have come close to matching it's festival atmosphere, appearing more as maps for MMO racing instead.
A decade later the map is still fun to drive and has those trademark 360 sunsets that come very close to matching the haze of Fable 2. And the soundtrack is an exquisite mix, with repeated plays on Radio X in the UK and my car stereo.
Second would be Fable 2, a game that truly allows roleplaying without the game.mechanics getting in the way of every NPC conversation taking 10 minutes. (See: Bioware)
I am enjoying Starfield a lot more than I did Skyrim.
I just wish simple game mechanics (like say having a full crew complement) are locked away behind a ridiculous amount of grinding at attributes you might not even want.
I went to a lecture by the director of Fable 3 and Fable: The Journey and he showed off some internal videos of Milo that had to be seen to be believed. It wasn't that the tech didn't work, it was that they had no idea how to turn it into a playable game. So it was that Milo was canned and The Journey was born.
At the end of the day exclusives push sales and Xbox just hasn't had enough. I have a Series S because the PS5 is too big to go under my TV and I value access to my back catalogue, not because it has the best games.
Forza Horizon 2 is one of the greatest racing titles of all time with considerable post-game depth if you want to do all hundred+ tours. How that missed out on GOTY over tripe like Dragon Age I will never know.
There is a strong case that the Xbox 360 is the greatest console of all time. It might have piggybacked a few ideas but it not only ushered in the proper modern era of online gaming but it also had the best selection of system exclusives of any Xbox console.
What started with PGR3 was finished with Forza Horizon. Let me.put this another way: if the Series X wasn't backwardly compatible with all my old 360 purchases I would have sold up to PlayStation years ago.
I'll throw another one out there: Perfect Dark, the best local multiplayer FPS ever made is also on Game Pass. 23 years old and still no game has come close to rivalling it's depth of options.
Forza Horizon 1. Easily my favourite of the series, this is confounded more by the fact that I can never start again or I will lose all my custom car paint jobs. Microsoft turned the servers off and so my copy of them is the only one that will ever be there.
I think it's one of the finest roleplaying games I have ever played.
It's not an RPG, mind. That is a great story to play through, characters to level and fall in love with along the way.
But a ROLE playing game? Where does one begin at how wonderfully open ended the game is in playing as whoever you want to be and taking the side missions as they come. That's Starfield.
@AlwaysPlaying I'm not sure. I'm sure this guy is a really talented guy and allbut for me what made Fable was it's refusal to bow to the conventions of regular western RPGs by concentrating less on tedious stat management and more on building a memorable world full of humour and grace. Now from the trailer it looked like this was the direction Playground are definitely going
There is a reason I still play Fable 2 every year; I think it's the greatest western RPG ever made.
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Re: Talking Point: What Convinced You To Pick Xbox In The First Place?
I fell right for Microsoft’s vision when I got my first Windows Phone 7 device. My little Avatar lived in my phone and my mobile gaming counted towards my profile. I bought a 360 a bit late in the day and never looked back. Games like Fable 2 and Forza Horizon 1 I replay at least once a year.
I stuck with the Xbox One because of backwards compatibility and the promise of new Fable and Forza. Horizon has gone on to become Microsoft’s tentpole franchise and they made a dumb mistake shuttering Lionhead.
I stuck with the Series S out of price, legacy purchase access and its physical dimensions. It’s a lovely little console with some great games.
Re: Here's Your First Look At 'Shadows', The Next Assassin's Creed Game Launching This November
@rustyduck It’s a human killing other humans.
Re: Square Enix To Include Xbox As Part Of 'Aggressive' New Multiplatform Strategy
Maybe they’ll finally get around to releasing Final Fantasy X on the iPhone!
Re: Talking Point: Is Sarah Bond Hinting At Eventually Moving Away From Xbox Hardware?
If Xbox became Steam and suddenly every purchase I had made over the years was compatible with the PS5, Steamdeck or perhaps my iPhone, I’d be very happy.
I can see them quitting hardware because it’s a loss leader. Or rather a future Xbox console will just be a small PC made from off the shelf parts rather than some custom silicon.
Re: Xbox Apparently Still Needs Smaller Games For 'Prestige And Awards'
To play devils advocate it may be that HiFi Rush just didn’t do very well at all from an engagement perspective.
Re: Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures
$60bn for a match-3 mobile game and an FPS designed by an intern with a set square.
Re: Xbox Reportedly Considering Game Pass Price Hike To Accommodate Call Of Duty
So… don’t bother? Warzone is F2P and nobody cares about the campaign. The older games are cheap as chips. Nobody is calling for COD on Game Pass and it’s not going to tempt over any PS5 owners.
Re: Xbox Fans React Angrily To Closure Of Bethesda's Tango Gameworks
And yet whoever made Starfield stays open
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
@Fiendish-Beaver I would happily buy a Switch-sized console that could play all my old Xbox 360 purchases. Fable 2 and Forza Horizon would make wonderful portable titles.
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
@Fiendish-Beaver Xbox could just become a PC you stick under your TV that happens to play games. Microsoft could then open it up to 3rd party storefronts like Steam, GOG and Epic.
If they did make it like a PC it would then be compatible with all Sony’s PC releases. There’s definitely a market there.
Re: Xbox Users Are 'Gutted' About The Latest Microsoft Rewards Nerf
“Dammit, Microsoft: we want more something for nothing!”
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Starfield's Shattered Space Expansion?
Some sort of planetary vehicle and expanded ship combat. The mechanics are really good yet there isn’t enough of it!
A rejuvenated skill tree would be nice. Not having simple stuff like a large ship crew locked behind hundreds of hours of grinding would be better.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Commitment To Console Gaming Is Pleasing, But Big Questions Linger
At first I was on board but their comments are hypocritical. They claim to want Xbox on every screen and yet won’t release an xcloud app for iOS despite this being unrelated to the EU stuff.
Basically they admitted that they only released xcloud on Android to crush Stadia because otherwise why bother at all?
Re: Best Two-Player Local Co-Op Games On Xbox
Dev unlock
Dolphin
PSO
Re: 343 Hires New Art Director To Lead 'A Very Exciting New Era' For Halo
See Metroid Prime?
Do that, but Halo.
Re: 'Xbox No Longer Making Consoles' Begins Trending As Panic Continues
I am here for a Series S-powered handheld.
Re: Phil Spencer Addresses Xbox Speculation Ahead Of 'Business Update Event'
I reckon this will be further reaching than expected. I fully expect every 360-era exclusive to launch on PS and Switch. A portable Fable 2 would be sweeeeet.
Re: Final Fantasy 14 Arrives On Xbox Later This Month With Free Open Beta
1. Do I need Xbox live?
2. Can I use my PlayStation login on the beta?
Re: Reaction: We're Conflicted About Xbox Exclusives Potentially Going To PS5
Whilst as gamers we do week out exclusive titles to give our purchases meaning and let us be ‘one of the tribe’ this hasn’t been true of the Series X since launch. Against Sony’s lineup of exclusives and variety of titles for the PS5 the Series X had….. nothing.
Re: Xbox Predicts 'Hardware Decline' Despite Huge Revenue Boost From ActiBlizz
@XboxistheBestBox Microsoft would do well to listen to the complaints about the PS5 from gamers and get more single player adventure titles and weird Japanese curio titles out the door asap.
Sony are spacing out the single player games but the PS4 existed on a diet of PSP ports for its weirdness. Sony have since closed their Japan Studio
Re: Xbox Predicts 'Hardware Decline' Despite Huge Revenue Boost From ActiBlizz
Honestly if we end up getting an xcloud app for the Apple TV I don’t think I’ll need a console at all.
Re: Halo TV Star Sends Blunt Message To Fans About No-Helmet Master Chief
I imagine he doesn’t want to be in a Pedro Pascal position where they just use your voice and get stuntmen to do all the acting. Fair play to him I say. It really doesn’t matter if he removes his helmet, boinks or even laughs at a joke because it’s an /adaptation/ of another piece of fiction. If it were the same fans would moan about that!
Re: Bethesda Reveals Full Patch Notes For Starfield's Next Update (1.9.47.0)
@BIG3 Don’t get me started on the camera resetting every time I sit down.
Re: Starfield Teases Its 'Biggest' Update Yet, Here's What You Can Expect
@Raw_Dawg Summing you’re a few dozen hours in your ammo stockpile should be massive.
Re: Final Fantasy 14 Prepares For Xbox Release As Game Surpasses 30 Million Players
You’re in for a treat, Xbox players. It lacks all the F2P trappings games like PSO2 use. There is an online store so you can level skip to miss the first part of the story or buy some cosmetics but it’s on a web page and not accessible in-game.
The base game includes the Heavensward expansion. The rest are extra and include a few classes.
I really wish Microsoft would use Azure to back it up so you can stream it on any platform.
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Reveals Xbox Was Supposed To Announce The Game Years Ago
I wonder if we are due a developer direct soon? We don’t really have much information about what is out and when. Some concrete releases and a few surprises can’t hurt.
Re: Five Activision Games We Want To Become Xbox Backwards Compatible In 2024
Wow, all that money for a few more shooter franchises? Really?!
Re: Talking Point: What Was The Greatest Xbox 360 Game Of All Time?
Forza Horizon.
I have never seen a game nail it's aesthetic and theme like this first try. It set the bar so high that none of the sequels have come close to matching it's festival atmosphere, appearing more as maps for MMO racing instead.
A decade later the map is still fun to drive and has those trademark 360 sunsets that come very close to matching the haze of Fable 2. And the soundtrack is an exquisite mix, with repeated plays on Radio X in the UK and my car stereo.
Second would be Fable 2, a game that truly allows roleplaying without the game.mechanics getting in the way of every NPC conversation taking 10 minutes. (See: Bioware)
Re: Starfield Dev Calls Out 'Unreasonable' Criticism From Some People On Social Media
I am enjoying Starfield a lot more than I did Skyrim.
I just wish simple game mechanics (like say having a full crew complement) are locked away behind a ridiculous amount of grinding at attributes you might not even want.
Re: It's That Time Again! Your Xbox 'Year In Review' 2023 Is Now Available
Wait, people actually use the newer uglier Avatars?!?
Re: EA Adds 'Immortals Of Aveum' To The List Of 90% Discounts On Xbox
Now then, maybe Jedi Survivor might make it too?
Re: Xbox Studio Arkane Is Officially Making A Marvel's Blade Game
I've nothing against whoever is playing the character here but it would have been nice to get Wesley Snipes back to do the voice acting.
Re: Xbox Exec Sends Fans Into A Frenzy With Random Social Media Post
4 words:
Jet
Set
Radio
Future
Re: Talking Point: Remember When 'Project Milo' Was The Next Big Thing For Xbox?
I went to a lecture by the director of Fable 3 and Fable: The Journey and he showed off some internal videos of Milo that had to be seen to be believed. It wasn't that the tech didn't work, it was that they had no idea how to turn it into a playable game. So it was that Milo was canned and The Journey was born.
Re: Reaction: Should We Really Be Surprised By 'Declining' Xbox Console Sales?
At the end of the day exclusives push sales and Xbox just hasn't had enough. I have a Series S because the PS5 is too big to go under my TV and I value access to my back catalogue, not because it has the best games.
Re: 'Microsoft MakeCode Arcade' Now Allows You To Create Your Own Retro Xbox Games
Microsoft have history here. I have some great memories teaching Kodu game lab to High School kids.
Re: Reaction: Looking Back, Xbox Has Had Some Strange GOTY Omissions Over The Years
Forza Horizon 2 is one of the greatest racing titles of all time with considerable post-game depth if you want to do all hundred+ tours. How that missed out on GOTY over tripe like Dragon Age I will never know.
Re: Starfield Fails To Make Shortlist For 'Game Of The Year' At The Game Awards 2023
I can understand Starfield because they released it half-finished but no love for Hi-Fi Rush?
Re: Poll: Which Has Been The Best Generation Of Xbox So Far?
There is a strong case that the Xbox 360 is the greatest console of all time. It might have piggybacked a few ideas but it not only ushered in the proper modern era of online gaming but it also had the best selection of system exclusives of any Xbox console.
What started with PGR3 was finished with Forza Horizon. Let me.put this another way: if the Series X wasn't backwardly compatible with all my old 360 purchases I would have sold up to PlayStation years ago.
Re: Reaction: Forza Motorsport Should Be Feeling The Pressure After New Gran Turismo 7 Update
All I really want is some music!
Re: Soapbox: 10-Year Old FPS Remains One Of The Best On Xbox Game Pass
I'll throw another one out there: Perfect Dark, the best local multiplayer FPS ever made is also on Game Pass. 23 years old and still no game has come close to rivalling it's depth of options.
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Game Would You Love To Play Again For The First Time?
Forza Horizon 1. Easily my favourite of the series, this is confounded more by the fact that I can never start again or I will lose all my custom car paint jobs. Microsoft turned the servers off and so my copy of them is the only one that will ever be there.
Re: After Just One Week, Paradox Is Already Admitting Defeat With The Lamplighters League
It's like modern developers don't study game design theory at all. Surely game design 101 is just the Miyamoto quote about delayed games?
Re: These 15+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (October 9-13)
Axis Football sounds far too much like a WW2-era FIFA game between the enemy powers.... Unfortunate choice of name!
Re: Video: Forza Motorsport Comparison Shows Difference Between Xbox Versions
Once Again showing that Larian were the problem, not the Series S.
Re: Talking Point: One Month On From Launch, How Are You Feeling About Starfield?
I think it's one of the finest roleplaying games I have ever played.
It's not an RPG, mind. That is a great story to play through, characters to level and fall in love with along the way.
But a ROLE playing game? Where does one begin at how wonderfully open ended the game is in playing as whoever you want to be and taking the side missions as they come. That's Starfield.
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
If they did a scale model with a lamp in the light that switches between green and red I'm there.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Producer Joins Fable Team At Xbox's Playground Games
@AlwaysPlaying I'm not sure. I'm sure this guy is a really talented guy and allbut for me what made Fable was it's refusal to bow to the conventions of regular western RPGs by concentrating less on tedious stat management and more on building a memorable world full of humour and grace. Now from the trailer it looked like this was the direction Playground are definitely going
There is a reason I still play Fable 2 every year; I think it's the greatest western RPG ever made.
Re: Phil Spencer Pledged To Get 'Real Honest' About Xbox's Future After 'Disaster Situation' In 2022
I’d argue this year has made up for it. Starfield is immense. Forza looks a lot better than GT7 and personally I’d put HiFi Rush as my GOTY.
Re: Hands On: Assassin's Creed Mirage Is An Enjoyable Return To The Series' Roots
It’s exactly what a I want: stealth skills that scale with player skill instead of level gating, a bustling metropolis to protect and classic parkour.
The best AC map is still Unity. It looks gorgeous on modern consoles.