So are they going full 3rd party publisher and they are just pricing everything so high that people stop buying the hardware and subscription to a point that they can say it's not sustainable and they aren't going to be doing that anymore?
What's the point in buying something from them if you don't know that they will be around...or if they are just a PC storefront eventually are they better than the competition?
Series X was my first Xbox and i was super excited when i started....will it be a one and done?
Damn....I'm guessing my stacked ultimate subscription won't be changed as a result of the price increase? It's a massive jump at a time when folks are tight on cash, I'd expect that there will be a dip in subscriptions as a result.
I'm hoping i can use that fortnite crew thing for my son's account as I don't care at all about fortnite.
I'd have to wait a year or so after launch to see what the reviews are... wasn't the Elite 2 the worst one for defects?
I want whatever new standard controller they make to be hall effect sticks at a minimum for stick drift. I'll get my kids to make me one in the design lab as a gift once they do.
Well i quickly redeemed my son's points for a month of GPU. After today I'll either have to use his point's for other gift cards or if I want to buy some indie game or dlc i guess I can gift it to myself from his account?
It's annoying but it's been an amazing deal and I can't complain about the year's or free GPU I've gotten.
Apparently if you buy a month of gamepass and cancel it a week of two afterwards folks are getting a full refund so I'm guessing that loophole is going to be closed next?
I'm good until Dec 2027 and i imagine I'll still rack up a few months of free time before then so by 2028 I'll have to decide if i stick with Xbox and even see if Xbox is around. If they can stick the landing with the PC Xbox and play anywhere with cloud saves and such I really don't think I'll be going anywhere.
Pretty sure FH5 is still the only game I've played at launch... everything else I wait for patches before even thinking about playing. Hopefully this is awesome and I'm forced to predownload this as my second ever launch day game
Definitely sounds like not something I need to waste my time on to watch this later on. The February and Summer showcases are the only one's that they really put emphasis into so I'll just watch those
I don't know how to feel about this. CoD has great campaigns for story and action....but will it translate to a movie? Like someone already mentioned if it's an 80's/90's action movie then yes....but modern age I'm not sure. They need to go R rating on the movie even though 12 year olds are a massive player base. F them kid's I say.
Prices need to drop but unless Xbox compensates ASUS for subsidized pricing I don't see ASUS dropping the price. They make hardware so they need to make their margins off the bat.
First one was great, watched commercials in the main hub because they were just too good to walk past. For the humour alone I'll be playing this, haven't watched any of the gameplay and don't need to.
@Tasuki they really need to put in a toggle to be able to turn off the skins so you just see the base operators if you want. I wasn't too bothered with the ninja turtles even as they were "realistic", but the cartoons were what did it for me. I really hope battlefield sticks to their word on this
When the batteries die I just swap them and I'm back at it. I have rechargeable ones and just keep a pair ready to go always. People have the option to buy a battery pack if they so choose. I like the choice and hope they keep going.
Not surprising. Not a peep since they announced the game and in the current market would some sort of extraction/hesit game succeed? Surprised this wasn't announced in the big layoff news weeks ago.
I'd be very surprised to see this thing actually release. But if they can pull it off and save a ton a ton of jobs I'm all for it. If it's F2P i might try it, if it's not then I won't.
I think I'm close to the end of act 2 and i gotta say that E33 is one of the best games I've played. The combat is fun and i never look to avoid a fight, story is great and the music is insane.
I'm going to play both and BO7 will be first as it will be day n date in GP. I'll have to wait for Battlefield until it's in EA Play.
But out of the two I'm looking forward to Battlefield more as the now cartoon skins in CoD are too much.
Hopefully this leads to a hit in CoD player numbers and Xbox adds in a toggle to turn off the skins for folks who don't want to deal with that fortniteification of CoD.
They will go slower than what Xbox is doing but I'd imagine that anything that's been ported to PC is an option. I also don't think them porting crappy games like that Lego one makes sense as that really won't sell as it's just not a good game.
Spider-Man I could really see coming over as it's not really a Sony IP like God of War and the like, it has a PC port.... and they would gladly take the money because for all the praise it's gotten that licensing fee took a big chunk out of the profitability of the title. Returnal also makes sense to me.
Eventually I see the Horizon, Last of Us and God of War coming but that's after the first wave of non pillar games.
Pulling the blinders off slowly so the ponies don't get spooked.
Spiderman would be cool but for me personally i have limited time and I'm purely a gamepass player. Most games I've actually purchased I've yet to play unless i bought them for the kids. So in reality i don't care what they bring over because it won't be in gamepass and I won't be playing it.
I've been playing Expedition 33 all week and it's freaking awesome, I'm around the halfway mark i think. I gotta say that the soundtrack is such a standout for the game. That's saying something when the story and combat are as good as they are also. If anyone else is behind the times like me and hasn't tried it already definitely make time for this game.
I wonder if Xbox team can get a bit more control over their affairs after this. The move was stupid from the get go and I have a feeling it was a higher up Corpo decision that they couldn't sway them away from. Clearly it was a mistake, but damage was done and once again mixed messaging and stepping in rakes for no reason.
Was the absolute best multiplayer and loved my time in it...but the ques got too long for w a match as players dropped off and i haven't played it in almost a year? Would love to jump back in but it needs a solid player base
How long do folks recon until people have no money to buy the stuff that AI and robots are making for the good of the bottom line for a corporation that isn't an actual being? 10 years or will it be faster?
I still never played it but it was really never on my radar as I don't have time for these large games. The deep dive they did on this after the showcase really got me interested in it but again, no time for games this big unfortunately
Basically any time that you get excited about Xbox be worried because you know bad news is coming. When have they ever done anything good without stepping on a rake not long afterwards?
It's business, it's a corporation...THE corporation even...but still this is crappy.
Dudes definitely going to retire soon, he has a family and is very well off. He's gotten pretty fit recently making me think he's taking more time for himself and stressing a bit less so would align with him taking small steps backwards to allow a smooth gradual transition.
Good for him. Sarah seems like a great replacement so no issues with that.
I don't understand it... are there metrics showing that launching broken unfinished products actually makes money? Did they just run out of money and it was a now or never moment? With so many titles to play and a lot of it F2P you gotta come out swinging. Hopefully investors and management get the memo.
I don't expect any massive game announcements but I think they will have the handhelds there for all to try. There's been a ton of games already for 2025 with more on their way and 2026 stacked.... will they be announcing 2027 stuff or just going about partner and indie games? That Silk song game that's got people frothing could get a release date there, that could be the big game for them at the show.
@NishimuraX that's what Jimbo Jones was betting on, new management cancelled most of those and this is now joining the list. I'm pretty sure that they are well and truly done with live service games. Only one I see them maybe pursuing is a Destiny 3 but would you honestly trust Bungie with that after Marathon and all them missed forecasts that made them so appealing in the first place?
@Kilamanjaro yeah it's why I'm saying this thing is dead and dusted. We're not seeing this game because they would have to redo the art style and there's no way they will ever recoup that expense.
@StonyKL can you play your Xbox console library on the PC? If the answer is no to that then it's a no to your question.
But the new PC console hopefully won't have the online paywall. I'm all for the PC console, but I ain't messing with a PC. I've been told PC isn't a hassle to play on but i don't buy it. Just power on and play is why i want a console.
2027 seems like the date for Sony and Xbox. Going into the current gen i didn't have a console so i jumped in day one as an Xbox newbie but for 2027 I'll hold off for a while before diving into next gen. I would love for the PC console to be subsidized still so it's under $1K CAD after taxes but I'm worried that they will sell it at breakeven and it's going to cost us a bit.
Also.... storage.... please let it be like the PS5 where we can upgrade with off the shelf card's. As cool as the memory cards are the costs are just ridiculous and once compared to the competition just laughable.
@Kilamanjaro unless you're the one paying for it and might not recover all that money. I think this is done and dusted.
A niche market game that wasn't well received is already bad news, add in that it's all based on stolen art and it's a wrap folks.
Not sure what they do with Bungie but hopefully all the management that's been a big part of all the issues finally get booted.
Feel bad for all the devs that didn't have anything to do with the art theft and had their feedback on how to make the game good ignored. Expect cost cutting initiatives at Bungie before the year is over.
Horizon is great but they need to go back to the magic of 4. I don't know if it's the speed of how you accumulated cars or what but something was off from 4. 5 looks fantastic and was fun but i recall feeling like you just got cars thrown at you all the time and the sense of accomplishment kinda went away. Could be that I'm old and new gen just needs everything easily? If that's the case allow me to go to the top of Mt. Fuji and yell at clouds in 6.
@acmiguens that game will be at least $100 USD unless they break up the online and base game into two separate games...then it will only be $70-80 USD each
It's a weaker machine so 30fps is fine. Maybe eventually get's patched to 60 if it's possible but it was always the budget console so can't expect premium performance out of it.
Hopefully they didn't expect gangbusters for a game that's been out for a while. I'd expect anyone with multiple consoles or a PC who wanted to play this already played it... and it was a game that was divisive amongst the FF fans I thought. I've never had an intention to play it but could it be that it's just not a great game, is old and had no marketing on Xbox?
After seeing the presentation i do believe that a Xbox made handheld is likely dead. They have said they are moving towards a more PC based system going forward so while i still expect the next console to come out and play console games, I'm expecting that next gen they transition to the new PC format and that's it for console games.
Devs just need to develop for Xbox PC, everything is play anywhere because it's just one licence, physical goes away completely and they likely don't make any more hardware outside of controllers but do licence the OS out for 3rd party systems.
Hoping the series X doesn't die so I can sell it for a decent penny with it's disk drive and the original box I kept when it's time to upgrade to the new stuff. Expecting Xbox ROG Ally X to be like $1.5K CAD after taxes at launch... hopefully it drops in price at some point. The current ROG ally X is $1.1K pre tax today. That's just dumb.
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Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Getting A Major Overhaul With New Names, Games & Price Changes
So are they going full 3rd party publisher and they are just pricing everything so high that people stop buying the hardware and subscription to a point that they can say it's not sustainable and they aren't going to be doing that anymore?
What's the point in buying something from them if you don't know that they will be around...or if they are just a PC storefront eventually are they better than the competition?
Series X was my first Xbox and i was super excited when i started....will it be a one and done?
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Getting A Major Overhaul With New Names, Games & Price Changes
Damn....I'm guessing my stacked ultimate subscription won't be changed as a result of the price increase? It's a massive jump at a time when folks are tight on cash, I'd expect that there will be a dip in subscriptions as a result.
I'm hoping i can use that fortnite crew thing for my son's account as I don't care at all about fortnite.
Re: Xbox Exec Questioned About Elite Series 3 Controller, Offers Slight Tease For The Future
I'd have to wait a year or so after launch to see what the reviews are... wasn't the Elite 2 the worst one for defects?
I want whatever new standard controller they make to be hall effect sticks at a minimum for stick drift. I'll get my kids to make me one in the design lab as a gift once they do.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Set To Remove 'Direct' Xbox Game Pass Redemptions From October 1st
Well i quickly redeemed my son's points for a month of GPU. After today I'll either have to use his point's for other gift cards or if I want to buy some indie game or dlc i guess I can gift it to myself from his account?
It's annoying but it's been an amazing deal and I can't complain about the year's or free GPU I've gotten.
Apparently if you buy a month of gamepass and cancel it a week of two afterwards folks are getting a full refund so I'm guessing that loophole is going to be closed next?
I'm good until Dec 2027 and i imagine I'll still rack up a few months of free time before then so by 2028 I'll have to decide if i stick with Xbox and even see if Xbox is around. If they can stick the landing with the PC Xbox and play anywhere with cloud saves and such I really don't think I'll be going anywhere.
Re: Forza Horizon 6's Map The 'Biggest Yet' As Dev Confirms Tokyo City Location
Pretty sure FH5 is still the only game I've played at launch... everything else I wait for patches before even thinking about playing. Hopefully this is awesome and I'm forced to predownload this as my second ever launch day game
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade Xbox's Tokyo Game Show 2025 Event?
Definitely sounds like not something I need to waste my time on to watch this later on. The February and Summer showcases are the only one's that they really put emphasis into so I'll just watch those
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Finally Heads To Xbox In January 2026
So a 5 year old game sells for around 19.99 right?
Re: New Official ROG Xbox Ally Video Shows Off Its Advanced Zero Gravity Cooling System
Looks awesome, I'd like one, not buying it cuz its going to be mega expensive.
Re: Call Of Duty To Receive The Movie Treatment As Paramount Inks Deal With Microsoft
I don't know how to feel about this. CoD has great campaigns for story and action....but will it translate to a movie? Like someone already mentioned if it's an 80's/90's action movie then yes....but modern age I'm not sure. They need to go R rating on the movie even though 12 year olds are a massive player base. F them kid's I say.
Re: Best Buy Lists Prices For ROG Xbox Ally Before Quickly Removing Them
Prices need to drop but unless Xbox compensates ASUS for subsidized pricing I don't see ASUS dropping the price. They make hardware so they need to make their margins off the bat.
Re: High On Life 2 Gets February 2026 Release Date, And Here's 42 Minutes Of Gameplay
First one was great, watched commercials in the main hub because they were just too good to walk past. For the humour alone I'll be playing this, haven't watched any of the gameplay and don't need to.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Handheld Gets Official October 2025 Release Date
I would like one but I'm guessing it's going to be out of my price range so no...I won't be getting it
Re: Black Ops 7 Launches On Xbox Game Pass This November, Free Beta Plans Detailed
@Tasuki they really need to put in a toggle to be able to turn off the skins so you just see the base operators if you want. I wasn't too bothered with the ninja turtles even as they were "realistic", but the cartoons were what did it for me. I really hope battlefield sticks to their word on this
Re: Poll: Should The Next Xbox Controller Support AA Batteries Again?
When the batteries die I just swap them and I'm back at it. I have rechargeable ones and just keep a pair ready to go always. People have the option to buy a battery pack if they so choose. I like the choice and hope they keep going.
Re: Talking Point: Is Forza Horizon About To Become Xbox's Main Forza Franchise?
It already has.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (August 9-10)
Still trucking along in E33. Just about to wrap up act 2 i think?
Re: Xbox Is Officially 'Stopping' Development On First-Party Game Contraband
Not surprising. Not a peep since they announced the game and in the current market would some sort of extraction/hesit game succeed? Surprised this wasn't announced in the big layoff news weeks ago.
Re: Marathon Is Expected To Launch Before April 2026 As Sony Tightens Its Grip On Bungie
I'd be very surprised to see this thing actually release. But if they can pull it off and save a ton a ton of jobs I'm all for it. If it's F2P i might try it, if it's not then I won't.
Re: Expedition 33 Dev On Turn-Based JRPGs: They Became 'Uncool' In Xbox 360 Era, Still Haven't Fully Recovered
I think I'm close to the end of act 2 and i gotta say that E33 is one of the best games I've played. The combat is fun and i never look to avoid a fight, story is great and the music is insane.
Re: Xbox Quietly Adds New Release To August 2025 Game Pass Lineup
Welp.... that's another weird indy game I'm going to have to try. Never knew I liked these games until i tried them in gamepass. Now these are my jam
Re: Talking Point: Battlefield 6 Or Black Ops 7, Which Xbox FPS Are You Looking Forward To Most?
I'm going to play both and BO7 will be first as it will be day n date in GP. I'll have to wait for Battlefield until it's in EA Play.
But out of the two I'm looking forward to Battlefield more as the now cartoon skins in CoD are too much.
Hopefully this leads to a hit in CoD player numbers and Xbox adds in a toggle to turn off the skins for folks who don't want to deal with that fortniteification of CoD.
Re: Rumour: Sony Is Planning To Bring More PS5 Games To Xbox
They will go slower than what Xbox is doing but I'd imagine that anything that's been ported to PC is an option. I also don't think them porting crappy games like that Lego one makes sense as that really won't sell as it's just not a good game.
Spider-Man I could really see coming over as it's not really a Sony IP like God of War and the like, it has a PC port.... and they would gladly take the money because for all the praise it's gotten that licensing fee took a big chunk out of the profitability of the title. Returnal also makes sense to me.
Eventually I see the Horizon, Last of Us and God of War coming but that's after the first wave of non pillar games.
Pulling the blinders off slowly so the ponies don't get spooked.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Pre-Orders Will Reportedly Go Live Next Month Ahead Of 2025 Launch
I was pretty interested in an Xbox handheld but with the expected prices I'm definitely not going to be getting one.
Re: Talking Point: So, What Other PS5 Games Do You Want To See Come To Xbox?
Spiderman would be cool but for me personally i have limited time and I'm purely a gamepass player. Most games I've actually purchased I've yet to play unless i bought them for the kids. So in reality i don't care what they bring over because it won't be in gamepass and I won't be playing it.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 26-27)
I've been playing Expedition 33 all week and it's freaking awesome, I'm around the halfway mark i think. I gotta say that the soundtrack is such a standout for the game. That's saying something when the story and combat are as good as they are also. If anyone else is behind the times like me and hasn't tried it already definitely make time for this game.
Re: Microsoft Reverts Price Increase For The Outer Worlds 2, Will Launch For $70 On Xbox
I wonder if Xbox team can get a bit more control over their affairs after this. The move was stupid from the get go and I have a feeling it was a higher up Corpo decision that they couldn't sway them away from. Clearly it was a mistake, but damage was done and once again mixed messaging and stepping in rakes for no reason.
Re: Random: This Incredible 'Skewer' Kill Shows How Impressive Halo Infinite's Physics Are
Was the absolute best multiplayer and loved my time in it...but the ques got too long for w a match as players dropped off and i haven't played it in almost a year? Would love to jump back in but it needs a solid player base
Re: Avowed Update 1.5 Now Live, Obsidian Confirms Major Fall 2025 Patch Still On Track
So when i eventually play this, a year or so after launch... it will actually be a finished product? Go me
Re: Report: Activision Blizzard's King Team Sees Axed Job Roles 'Replaced' By AI
How long do folks recon until people have no money to buy the stuff that AI and robots are making for the good of the bottom line for a corporation that isn't an actual being? 10 years or will it be faster?
Re: These Eight Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (July 17-August 1)
Ohhh robocop is definitely getting installed.... hopefully getting played lol
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Two Years, How Do You Feel About Xbox's Starfield In 2025?
I still never played it but it was really never on my radar as I don't have time for these large games. The deep dive they did on this after the showcase really got me interested in it but again, no time for games this big unfortunately
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
Basically any time that you get excited about Xbox be worried because you know bad news is coming. When have they ever done anything good without stepping on a rake not long afterwards?
It's business, it's a corporation...THE corporation even...but still this is crappy.
Re: Phil Spencer Isn't Retiring Anytime Soon, Says Xbox In Response To Rumour
Dudes definitely going to retire soon, he has a family and is very well off. He's gotten pretty fit recently making me think he's taking more time for himself and stressing a bit less so would align with him taking small steps backwards to allow a smooth gradual transition.
Good for him. Sarah seems like a great replacement so no issues with that.
Re: Xbox Officially Adds Steam Integration Via New PC App Feature
@VoidPunk pureallcompatibledevices has a ring to it no?
Re: It Sounds Like MindsEye Is Leading To Major Layoffs At The Studio
I don't understand it... are there metrics showing that launching broken unfinished products actually makes money? Did they just run out of money and it was a now or never moment? With so many titles to play and a lot of it F2P you gotta come out swinging. Hopefully investors and management get the memo.
Re: With The Summer Showcase Over, Xbox Is Now Focusing On Gamescom 2025
I don't expect any massive game announcements but I think they will have the handhelds there for all to try. There's been a ton of games already for 2025 with more on their way and 2026 stacked.... will they be announcing 2027 stuff or just going about partner and indie games? That Silk song game that's got people frothing could get a release date there, that could be the big game for them at the show.
Re: Bungie Delays Xbox Shooter Marathon After Mixed Feedback To 2025 Alpha
@NishimuraX that's what Jimbo Jones was betting on, new management cancelled most of those and this is now joining the list. I'm pretty sure that they are well and truly done with live service games. Only one I see them maybe pursuing is a Destiny 3 but would you honestly trust Bungie with that after Marathon and all them missed forecasts that made them so appealing in the first place?
Re: Bungie Delays Xbox Shooter Marathon After Mixed Feedback To 2025 Alpha
@Kilamanjaro yeah it's why I'm saying this thing is dead and dusted. We're not seeing this game because they would have to redo the art style and there's no way they will ever recoup that expense.
Re: Poll: When Do You Think Xbox's Next-Gen Console Is Coming Out?
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Re: Poll: When Do You Think Xbox's Next-Gen Console Is Coming Out?
@Millionski ideally 2026 would be amazing with all those games coming out. Hope you're right but i still feel like it's too early to launch next year
Re: Poll: When Do You Think Xbox's Next-Gen Console Is Coming Out?
@StonyKL can you play your Xbox console library on the PC? If the answer is no to that then it's a no to your question.
But the new PC console hopefully won't have the online paywall. I'm all for the PC console, but I ain't messing with a PC. I've been told PC isn't a hassle to play on but i don't buy it. Just power on and play is why i want a console.
Re: Poll: When Do You Think Xbox's Next-Gen Console Is Coming Out?
2027 seems like the date for Sony and Xbox. Going into the current gen i didn't have a console so i jumped in day one as an Xbox newbie but for 2027 I'll hold off for a while before diving into next gen. I would love for the PC console to be subsidized still so it's under $1K CAD after taxes but I'm worried that they will sell it at breakeven and it's going to cost us a bit.
Also.... storage.... please let it be like the PS5 where we can upgrade with off the shelf card's. As cool as the memory cards are the costs are just ridiculous and once compared to the competition just laughable.
Re: Bungie Delays Xbox Shooter Marathon After Mixed Feedback To 2025 Alpha
@AlwaysPlaying no one....and i mean absolutely no one misses the horrible ABK 2 year news cycle.
Mods....can you remove this post please?!?
Re: Bungie Delays Xbox Shooter Marathon After Mixed Feedback To 2025 Alpha
@Kilamanjaro unless you're the one paying for it and might not recover all that money. I think this is done and dusted.
A niche market game that wasn't well received is already bad news, add in that it's all based on stolen art and it's a wrap folks.
Not sure what they do with Bungie but hopefully all the management that's been a big part of all the issues finally get booted.
Feel bad for all the devs that didn't have anything to do with the art theft and had their feedback on how to make the game good ignored. Expect cost cutting initiatives at Bungie before the year is over.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Release Window Verified By Major Outlet, But Questions Remain Over Price
I want it, but I'm not spending $1.5K on this thing. Rather depressing lol
Re: Talking Point: Would You Like To See A New Type Of Forza Game In 2026?
Horizon is great but they need to go back to the magic of 4. I don't know if it's the speed of how you accumulated cars or what but something was off from 4. 5 looks fantastic and was fun but i recall feeling like you just got cars thrown at you all the time and the sense of accomplishment kinda went away. Could be that I'm old and new gen just needs everything easily? If that's the case allow me to go to the top of Mt. Fuji and yell at clouds in 6.
Re: 2K Not Following Microsoft & Nintendo With $80 Game Prices, For Now
@acmiguens that game will be at least $100 USD unless they break up the online and base game into two separate games...then it will only be $70-80 USD each
Re: The Witcher 4 Will Be 'Extremely Challenging' To Run At 60FPS On Xbox Series S
It's a weaker machine so 30fps is fine. Maybe eventually get's patched to 60 if it's possible but it was always the budget console so can't expect premium performance out of it.
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
Hopefully they didn't expect gangbusters for a game that's been out for a while. I'd expect anyone with multiple consoles or a PC who wanted to play this already played it... and it was a game that was divisive amongst the FF fans I thought. I've never had an intention to play it but could it be that it's just not a great game, is old and had no marketing on Xbox?
Re: Xbox First-Party Handheld Plans 'Essentially Cancelled', Claims Report
After seeing the presentation i do believe that a Xbox made handheld is likely dead. They have said they are moving towards a more PC based system going forward so while i still expect the next console to come out and play console games, I'm expecting that next gen they transition to the new PC format and that's it for console games.
Devs just need to develop for Xbox PC, everything is play anywhere because it's just one licence, physical goes away completely and they likely don't make any more hardware outside of controllers but do licence the OS out for 3rd party systems.
Hoping the series X doesn't die so I can sell it for a decent penny with it's disk drive and the original box I kept when it's time to upgrade to the new stuff. Expecting Xbox ROG Ally X to be like $1.5K CAD after taxes at launch... hopefully it drops in price at some point. The current ROG ally X is $1.1K pre tax today. That's just dumb.