@RadioHedgeFund yeah, I figure they'll back down and make it $70 for most games but to save face they'll just discount MKW more often than they normally would have.
I agree on a lot of points that ironically, Nintendo charging $80 for 3 of its Switch 2 games (2 of which are Switch games enhanced and/or upgraded with content) does make the inevitable price increases for the next PS and Xbox more palatable for a lot of ppl so that is a win for companies. For gamers...not so much.
@RadioHedgeFund tbf, it looks like third parties are generally not charging the same price as Nintendo is for some of its games ($80 is not even Nintendo's standard price, but it's been found for 3 games). Street Fighter 6 is $60 USD on Switch 2, for instance.
@kevinm360 "Parents will be fine." We sure will be since most of us grew up playing video games and know enough about them not to get confused. It isn't 2005, parents today grew up playing video games, and ppl like the one you're replying to don't realize that.
Game prices have already increased without people seeming to notice. But $80 appears to be only on Mario Kart, not necessarily every game. I know that because the new DK game is $70.
In any case, you're kidding yourself if you think Game Pass prices won't increase with time.
I routinely hammer NL for posting non-Nintendo news, so it would be hypocritical of me not to do the same for Px when they post non-Xbox news. I come here for Xbox news, not Nintendo news. Heck, I will be going to Nintendo news sites even less now that Nintendo has the app. Lol
The short answer is no. It'll have been 7 years since XSX/XSS came out by 2027. That's plenty of time for a console generation. Even if by and large this has been a weak one for Sony/MS.
I agree with the article about Fallout 3 and NV. Though extensive remakes of the first two games could be cool. Not happening, but since we're dreaming I'm saying it.
Tbh, I've gone back and forth on this one a lot. I would consider buying an Xbox branded handheld PC to replace my Xbox home console if it docks. But then I run into the issue of wanting to play my disc-based 360 and OG Xbox games, which likely won't happen on a hypothetical handheld from MS. In some ways, it makes sense for me to get one, but in many others it really doesn't. I guess I'd have to see it in action before making any kind of guess.
Their shareholders sure seem to agree. Selling games on multiple consoles will absolutely make you more money. If Sony starts putting games on Xbox, then I do agree that it will probably not harm Xbox sales but they have no incentive to do that now.
@cragis0001 yes, but what about the handhelds during those generations? Nintendo consoles and handhelds typically sold in the 100M unit range when combined.
@Kaloudz the majority of average consumers hear the prevailing narrative that gamers repeat if they only somewhat follow gaming. Right now, that narrative is "Xbox has no games!" And I promise you, that matters. Sure, Game Pass is really good and I'm sure MS makes money from it. That matters, but not as much as many people here would have you believe.
But to try and say that console sales aren't affected by not having exclusives is, with current market conditions, not accurate. That's all I'm saying. Not that conditions can't change (that would be a stupid thing to say). To say that the strategy MS currently employs doesn't sell consoles isn't wild or untrue. I have no problem with it, but anyone saying they're moving consoles with this strategy (again with the current market conditions) is kidding themselves.
A lot of people misunderstand the point of saying "exclusives sell consoles." It isn't that people derive less enjoyment out of a video game because it's not exclusive to the console they bought that's the central point. It's that now ppl have a choice between one console that has a set of games they can't buy elsewhere while also having what used to be the other console's exclusive set of games.
Put another way, someone can buy God of War, Spider-Man, Ratchet & Clank, Sea of Thieves AND Forza on PS5. I can't buy most of those games on Xbox Series X. And, oh by the way, both consoles have virtually the same level of third-party support so their libraries are already very similar to begin with. Which do you think a new buyer would choose if presented with those options for a console library?
I can believe it'll become a cult classic. Much in the same way New Vegas is a lot of ppl's favorite Fallout game, I can see people really swearing by this one.
Nice to hear for frame rate sensitive people, but I'm still on the fence with the Xbox version of this game. No, other consoles haven't been confirmed but with MS's recent track record it's likely going multiplat.
@Isolte right, I don't really think either will unless they feel they have to. Tbh, MS probably initially felt they had to, not just because they are a software company first and that is their general business model, but for legal reasons.
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Re: Xbox & Bethesda Firing On All Cylinders With Fresh DOOM: The Dark Ages Gameplay
@Vectrex honestly, same. The story is often really dumb, for lack of a better term. Even if it is a bit quaint, it gets a little tiresome.
Re: Oblivion Remastered PC File Size Leaks Ahead Of Rumoured Xbox Game Pass Launch
This is one of the worst kept secrets in gaming.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Firing On All Cylinders With Fresh DOOM: The Dark Ages Gameplay
I love that there is a story for shooting demons. Both ironically and unironically, tbh.
Re: Talking Point: What Dream Reveal Would You Like To See At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
Banjo-Kazooie or a new Conker.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2025 & Outer Worlds 2 Direct Announced For June
@LaurenceJ1987 Pfft, I'll watch this while I play MKW!
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2025 & Outer Worlds 2 Direct Announced For June
Ah, not E3 is gonna be fun. As others have said, we'll probably see some Switch 2 ports of Xbox games.
Re: Xbox Adds Prime Gaming Freebie For April, Available To Claim Now
Got mine, thanks!
Re: Review: South Of Midnight (Xbox) - A Fantastic, Soulful Outing From Xbox Game Studios
Nice, good to see it reviewed well. Though that is a bit of a shame about combat arenas.
Re: Five Ways The Switch 2 Reveal Has Been A Huge Win For Xbox
@RadioHedgeFund yeah, I figure they'll back down and make it $70 for most games but to save face they'll just discount MKW more often than they normally would have.
Re: Five Ways The Switch 2 Reveal Has Been A Huge Win For Xbox
I agree on a lot of points that ironically, Nintendo charging $80 for 3 of its Switch 2 games (2 of which are Switch games enhanced and/or upgraded with content) does make the inevitable price increases for the next PS and Xbox more palatable for a lot of ppl so that is a win for companies. For gamers...not so much.
@RadioHedgeFund tbf, it looks like third parties are generally not charging the same price as Nintendo is for some of its games ($80 is not even Nintendo's standard price, but it's been found for 3 games). Street Fighter 6 is $60 USD on Switch 2, for instance.
Re: Switch 2 Feature Reminds People Of The Disastrous Xbox One Launch
@kevinm360 "Parents will be fine." We sure will be since most of us grew up playing video games and know enough about them not to get confused. It isn't 2005, parents today grew up playing video games, and ppl like the one you're replying to don't realize that.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
Game prices have already increased without people seeming to notice. But $80 appears to be only on Mario Kart, not necessarily every game. I know that because the new DK game is $70.
In any case, you're kidding yourself if you think Game Pass prices won't increase with time.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Expecting Xbox News At The Switch 2 Direct This Week?
I routinely hammer NL for posting non-Nintendo news, so it would be hypocritical of me not to do the same for Px when they post non-Xbox news. I come here for Xbox news, not Nintendo news. Heck, I will be going to Nintendo news sites even less now that Nintendo has the app. Lol
Re: Here's What The 'Hands On' Previews Are Saying About DOOM: The Dark Ages
I'm glad PureXbox is going to actually review this around launch!
Re: Minecraft Set For Graphics Upgrade That Will 'Transform' Bedrock Edition On Xbox & Beyond
@Quaali came here to say basically that. Lol
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Now Trailing Almost 20% Behind Xbox One In The US
@themightyant I agree, Xbox Series X is actually a great console. It should be running circles around X1.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Too Early To Release A New Xbox Console In 2027?
The short answer is no. It'll have been 7 years since XSX/XSS came out by 2027. That's plenty of time for a console generation. Even if by and large this has been a weak one for Sony/MS.
Re: Talking Point: What Other Bethesda Remakes Would You Like Xbox To Greenlight?
I agree with the article about Fallout 3 and NV. Though extensive remakes of the first two games could be cool. Not happening, but since we're dreaming I'm saying it.
Re: Xbox Fans In The UK Can Now Order Games & Consoles From Just Eat
@Kezelpaso fair, wouldn't be a great smell.
Re: Xbox Fans In The UK Can Now Order Games & Consoles From Just Eat
Let me get fish and chips (though I guess that wouldn't travel great) with an Xbox.
Re: Alan Wake Remastered Free Copies Are Being Revoked By Xbox
That happened to me. It's really not the end of the world.
Re: Five Things An Xbox Handheld Needs To Include When It Releases
Tbh, I've gone back and forth on this one a lot. I would consider buying an Xbox branded handheld PC to replace my Xbox home console if it docks. But then I run into the issue of wanting to play my disc-based 360 and OG Xbox games, which likely won't happen on a hypothetical handheld from MS. In some ways, it makes sense for me to get one, but in many others it really doesn't. I guess I'd have to see it in action before making any kind of guess.
Re: Bethesda Provides Update On Starfield DLC & Future Plans For Xbox RPG
I would like to see what they have ready. We may find out at not-E3.
Although honestly, they might as well just move to Starfield 2.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Suikoden 1 & 2 HD Remaster
It's pretty wild that Xbox reviews of multiplat games are often unavailable, as of late.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Down Almost 50% As Fans Question Stock Levels In Certain Regions
This has been a very weird console generation, Nintendo notwithstanding.
Re: Xbox Has Officially Delayed Fable Into 2026
This is my surprised face. I'm really surprised, everyone.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Return Seemingly Imminent
Very cool. I'm glad to see the series isn't completely dead.
Re: Xbox RPG Avowed Seemingly Sold Well Despite Being In Game Pass
Removed
Re: Microsoft CEO: Xbox's New AI Model Is A 'Wow' Moment, But Great Games Must Be The Focus
Cool, so CEO's are looking to automate game development.
Re: Rumour: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Remaster To Shadow Drop At Xbox Games Showcase 2025
Welp, sounds like it's happening.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Happy With The Current Xbox UI As It Stands In 2025?
I don't mind it since I just boot up games.
Re: Rumour: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Remaster To Shadow Drop At Xbox Games Showcase 2025
Loved the older Tony Hawk games (even 4), so this would be cool.
Re: Bethesda's Last Wolfenstein Game Is Now Free To Claim On Xbox With Prime Gaming
Well, free is free.
Re: How Microsoft Managed Xbox Brand 'Is Not My F**king Fault', Says OG Xbox Creator
Eh, MS is adapting to the times as any software company would. By putting software in as many places as possible.
Re: Xbox Is 'Exploring' AI To Make Its Older Games Playable On Modern Hardware
So this will allow for mods on older Xbox games? Okay, interesting.
Re: Xbox's New Strategy Is 'Right' For The Business And Needs To Be Embraced, Says Former Exec
Their shareholders sure seem to agree. Selling games on multiple consoles will absolutely make you more money. If Sony starts putting games on Xbox, then I do agree that it will probably not harm Xbox sales but they have no incentive to do that now.
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Studios Roadmap For 2025 & Beyond
Avowed is supposed to be a solid game. I'm hoping South of Midnight turns out well, as well as Fable.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox Is Done Trying To Convince PS5 & Switch Players To Move Over
@cragis0001 yes, but what about the handhelds during those generations? Nintendo consoles and handhelds typically sold in the 100M unit range when combined.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox Is Done Trying To Convince PS5 & Switch Players To Move Over
@Kaloudz the majority of average consumers hear the prevailing narrative that gamers repeat if they only somewhat follow gaming. Right now, that narrative is "Xbox has no games!" And I promise you, that matters. Sure, Game Pass is really good and I'm sure MS makes money from it. That matters, but not as much as many people here would have you believe.
But to try and say that console sales aren't affected by not having exclusives is, with current market conditions, not accurate. That's all I'm saying. Not that conditions can't change (that would be a stupid thing to say). To say that the strategy MS currently employs doesn't sell consoles isn't wild or untrue. I have no problem with it, but anyone saying they're moving consoles with this strategy (again with the current market conditions) is kidding themselves.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox Is Done Trying To Convince PS5 & Switch Players To Move Over
A lot of people misunderstand the point of saying "exclusives sell consoles." It isn't that people derive less enjoyment out of a video game because it's not exclusive to the console they bought that's the central point. It's that now ppl have a choice between one console that has a set of games they can't buy elsewhere while also having what used to be the other console's exclusive set of games.
Put another way, someone can buy God of War, Spider-Man, Ratchet & Clank, Sea of Thieves AND Forza on PS5. I can't buy most of those games on Xbox Series X. And, oh by the way, both consoles have virtually the same level of third-party support so their libraries are already very similar to begin with. Which do you think a new buyer would choose if presented with those options for a console library?
Re: Xbox's Avowed Is 'One Of The Best' Unreal Engine 5 Games So Far, Says Digital Foundry
I can believe it'll become a cult classic. Much in the same way New Vegas is a lot of ppl's favorite Fallout game, I can see people really swearing by this one.
Re: Avowed Review Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think So Far
@RBRTMNZ do you follow the other major publishers?
Re: Review: Avowed (Xbox) - Flashy Action & Excellent Exploration Make Up For A Surprisingly Breezy Narrative
Okay, cool. But reviews have been sort of middling.
Re: Poll: What Kind Of Review Scores Are You Predicting For Avowed?
Mid-80's and will become beloved later.
@Titntin the internet is built on conspiracy theories.
Re: South Of Midnight Preview (Xbox) - A Compulsion We're Desperate To Indulge
My only concern is the studio doesn't have a great track record of making good games.
Re: Avowed's Full Performance Mode Options Detailed For Xbox Series X
Cool, I'm ready to read reviews.
Re: Avowed Has A 60FPS Mode On Xbox Series X, Confirms Obsidian
Nice to hear for frame rate sensitive people, but I'm still on the fence with the Xbox version of this game. No, other consoles haven't been confirmed but with MS's recent track record it's likely going multiplat.
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics (Xbox) - Here Comes A New Challenger!
I know many people assumed this wouldn't happen, but I wasn't one of them. Good to see that Xbox-first users get this game.
Re: Reporter Suggests Console Exclusives Will Soon Be 'Obsolete', Especially For Third-Party Devs
@Isolte right, I don't really think either will unless they feel they have to. Tbh, MS probably initially felt they had to, not just because they are a software company first and that is their general business model, but for legal reasons.
Re: Reporter Suggests Console Exclusives Will Soon Be 'Obsolete', Especially For Third-Party Devs
We'll see, but I'll believe it when Sony starts putting more games on Xbox. Which I don't see happening.
Edit: I added the word "more" because Sony already puts MLB The Show on Xbox.