Idk how this affects me since I own it, but I really need to play this game. It's a shame we'll never get another one because both entries are apparently great. You'd think a giant company like MS could take a few L's for their series' just to maintain a fanbase in the genre (like Nintendo does with some of its more niche franchises, such as Metroid) but I guess not!
@NeoRatt well other than ABK, I meant. That was a little obvious to let it go through everywhere they had to appease Governments (which in that case I'm fine with). But their earlier acquisitions should have come with exclusivity when practicable.
I'm over the acquisitions. Keep your teams accountable and make sure you actually communicate with them (i.e., manage them) because from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem like that's happening.
This is nice, but it feels like a whole lot of nothing. What incentive do people have to buy your console if your games are coming to other devices and PC? Yes, some people don't like gaming on PC. But when you have the same library on two devices, one of which people own, which do you think people will pick to buy the games on?
And would that incentivize buying a new device? No, it wouldn't.
Kind of makes you wonder what made them go multiplat, in the first place. Was it shareholders or Phil not being able to convince Satya to stay exclusive?
And you know what? I hope they go back to exclusivity!
I think everyone knows better than to take him at his word, by now. Still, I appreciate that he at least believes in what he's doing. Even if his work never lives up to his promises, it's still good overall. Besides, it's just video games, people.
I'd follow something similar to PS and Nintendo (the latter of which anyone else would never do because shareholders would riot), but really I'd start making most of the games exclusive to console. That may be harder since they are a PC software company first, contrary to Sony.
Tbh, I'd prefer they go back to straight up exclusive to console. Follow the rumored Sony model. Make multiplayer and live service PC games, then keep everything single player (the few that you do make) Xbox console exclusive.
With regulatory bodies paying attention and historical precedent, I'm aware what I'm about to say was never likely. Microsoft should have made COD Xbox exclusive and not put it on Game Pass.
This is far too common a practice and on Nintendo consoles, it's usually just third-parties. With MS, it's all of them. At least they are recognizing people don't like it.
The only way this console would have a chance is if MS pulls a (rumored) Sony and keeps single player games off PS hardware. Other than that, they shouldn't expect to sell this device to the mass market.
This thing won't be affordable and MS still has its work cut out for it. I don't see the value proposition of a console that plays PC games as well, but someone might.
I don't see why Sony would feel PS5/6 sales would be affected if the next Xbox can play first-party games via Steam because why would you choose to skip PS to play Xbox and PS games when you can do that with your PS6 and presumably play at least from PS4 to PS6 on one device? Wouldn't make any sense to change ecosystems now.
Genie's out of the bottle, they really won't be able to put it back in. Tbh, that isn't a good thing. Even partly unchecked Sony (which we have now) is a bad thing. They've required proprietary memory for their consoles in previous generations and would do that now if they could. Make no mistake, if they can remove Nintendo from the equation then you'll see that mask come off. Yes, Nintendo is a competitor of Sony's based on how they have recently been aggressively "lowering" PS5 prices to get headlines that they "won" in hardware sales for x month (yes, those headlines matter if you follow the industry closely enough).
I love how gamers, as people who were once outcasts, have been bullies to people that are generally down trodden. It really shows our self-awareness and humility.
Not surprised. Everyone acts like this isn't an industry-wide issue. I doubt the price is exactly what people were expecting, either. I.e., it's higher than they'd hoped.
@Gabrie I've had my eShop games for 8 years now. The reason 3DS and Wii U were closed is because of form factor and many of those games were ported over to Switch and now playable on NS2. The argument that they "may go away in a few years" could theoretically apply to anything digital so I consider that a moot point. I meant from a practical standpoint everything someone buys on Switch/2 is playable anywhere (and on one device) because of the form factor of the console.
I guess when you give people no reason to buy a console, you won't sell them. Now, the usual suspects are shifting the argument from "exclusives don't sell consoles" to "well, they don't WANT to sell consoles!"
And make no mistake, I believe MS is and was capable of improving Xbox sales. Clearly, the people at the top don't feel that is meaningful to the overall company. This is one example of why having multiple streams of revenue isn't always good for a specific brand within a company.
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Re: Xbox Exec Invites Fans To Share Backwards Compatibility Requests On Special Website
The Cybertron Transformers games.
Re: 'The Results Ain't Pretty' - Oblivion Remastered Analysis Claims It's 'Still Broken' After One Year
Maybe when the Switch 2 version comes out, every other version will look and perform better.
Then Nintendo fans can wait a year+ for it to be serviceable!
Re: The Outer Worlds To Be Partially Delisted, Free 'Spacer's Choice Edition' For Those Affected
Idk how this affects me since I own it, but I really need to play this game. It's a shame we'll never get another one because both entries are apparently great. You'd think a giant company like MS could take a few L's for their series' just to maintain a fanbase in the genre (like Nintendo does with some of its more niche franchises, such as Metroid) but I guess not!
Re: 'I've Ordered A Series X, I'm Back In' - Lapsed Xbox Fan Attracts The Attention Of Asha Sharma
Tbh, I don't see what would make someone jump (back, or in the first place) in at this point.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Is Changing For The Better, And Now Microsoft Needs To Be Consistent
Literally 1 thing has happened since Asha took over. Nothing else.
Re: Xbox Is Officially 'Reevaluating' What To Do About Exclusivity
@NeoRatt well other than ABK, I meant. That was a little obvious to let it go through everywhere they had to appease Governments (which in that case I'm fine with). But their earlier acquisitions should have come with exclusivity when practicable.
Re: It's Been Years Since Xbox Acquired A Studio, But It Sounds Like They're Considering It Again
I'm over the acquisitions. Keep your teams accountable and make sure you actually communicate with them (i.e., manage them) because from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem like that's happening.
Re: Asha Sharma Says Xbox Is Investing To Make Series X|S Consoles A 'First-Class Experience Again'
This is nice, but it feels like a whole lot of nothing. What incentive do people have to buy your console if your games are coming to other devices and PC? Yes, some people don't like gaming on PC. But when you have the same library on two devices, one of which people own, which do you think people will pick to buy the games on?
And would that incentivize buying a new device? No, it wouldn't.
Re: Xbox Is Officially 'Reevaluating' What To Do About Exclusivity
Kind of makes you wonder what made them go multiplat, in the first place. Was it shareholders or Phil not being able to convince Satya to stay exclusive?
And you know what? I hope they go back to exclusivity!
Re: Fable Creator Says His New Game Is 'Most Significant Event' In His Entire 40-Year Career
I think everyone knows better than to take him at his word, by now. Still, I appreciate that he at least believes in what he's doing. Even if his work never lives up to his promises, it's still good overall. Besides, it's just video games, people.
Re: You're The Xbox Boss And Need To Figure Out Exclusivity, What Decision Are You Making?
I'd follow something similar to PS and Nintendo (the latter of which anyone else would never do because shareholders would riot), but really I'd start making most of the games exclusive to console. That may be harder since they are a PC software company first, contrary to Sony.
Re: Xbox Is Having 'Very Big Discussions' About Exclusivity, Says Reporter
Tbh, I'd prefer they go back to straight up exclusive to console. Follow the rumored Sony model. Make multiplayer and live service PC games, then keep everything single player (the few that you do make) Xbox console exclusive.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Might Not Launch Call Of Duty 2026 On Xbox Game Pass
With regulatory bodies paying attention and historical precedent, I'm aware what I'm about to say was never likely. Microsoft should have made COD Xbox exclusive and not put it on Game Pass.
Re: Starfield Gets Major Free Update & New Expansion Next Month, Alongside PS5 Release
This is pretty big with the other changes made. Kind of makes me wish I hadn't beaten it a while back.
Re: Xbox Announces Policy Changes To Treat Games More 'Fairly' On The Microsoft Store
This is far too common a practice and on Nintendo consoles, it's usually just third-parties. With MS, it's all of them. At least they are recognizing people don't like it.
Re: Capcom Is Ready To Unleash Pragmata Early As Release Date Gets Brought Forward
This is really good news. Hope ppl with Xbox as their primary console enjoy this one! I will probably get Forza as my next Xbox game, tho.
Re: 'It Will Lead In Performance' - Xbox's Price Tag For Project Helix Could Be Pretty High
The only way this console would have a chance is if MS pulls a (rumored) Sony and keeps single player games off PS hardware. Other than that, they shouldn't expect to sell this device to the mass market.
Re: Xbox Announces New 'Project Helix' Console, Says It Will Play PC Games
This thing won't be affordable and MS still has its work cut out for it. I don't see the value proposition of a console that plays PC games as well, but someone might.
Re: Next Xbox Console Could Be Affected By PlayStation Pulling Back On PC
A rumor about a rumor. What a world we live in.
I don't see why Sony would feel PS5/6 sales would be affected if the next Xbox can play first-party games via Steam because why would you choose to skip PS to play Xbox and PS games when you can do that with your PS6 and presumably play at least from PS4 to PS6 on one device? Wouldn't make any sense to change ecosystems now.
Re: Opinion: Xbox Should Consider Cancelling Halo: Campaign Evolved For PS5
I think they should, but they won't.
Re: Xbox Boss Questioned On Whether Exclusives Could Return In The Future
Genie's out of the bottle, they really won't be able to put it back in. Tbh, that isn't a good thing. Even partly unchecked Sony (which we have now) is a bad thing. They've required proprietary memory for their consoles in previous generations and would do that now if they could. Make no mistake, if they can remove Nintendo from the equation then you'll see that mask come off. Yes, Nintendo is a competitor of Sony's based on how they have recently been aggressively "lowering" PS5 prices to get headlines that they "won" in hardware sales for x month (yes, those headlines matter if you follow the industry closely enough).
Re: Xbox Boss Explains Her Gamertag Activity, Says 'Faking Would Be A Terrible Idea'
I love how gamers, as people who were once outcasts, have been bullies to people that are generally down trodden. It really shows our self-awareness and humility.
Did I say "love"? I meant to say "hate."
Re: Xbox's 'Pivot Away From Console' Had Been Failing And Questioned At Microsoft, Claims Report
Gonna be hard to put the genie back in the bottle, but if they do, I don't hate it.
Re: Xbox Creator Reveals His Two Tips For The New Microsoft Gaming CEO
Feels like this whole thing won't go down well for fans of Xbox consoles. Of course, I could be wrong.
Re: 'No Tolerance For Bad AI' - New Xbox Boss Says Games Need 'Great Stories Created By Humans'
It's unfortunate that AI, in the same way we think of it now, is here to stay.
Re: New Xbox Boss Makes Official Statement As She Takes Over From Phil Spencer
Won't be an easy task, but I'm sure she won't be able to succeed (which is by design).
@martynstuff random Cornershop references, ftw.
Re: 'I Felt Incredibly Emotional' - Peter Molyneux Shares His Reaction To Xbox's Fable Reveal
Credit to him for not feeling salty about it. Sure, he can't really "do" anything if it upset him, but still.
Re: Sony Is Hosting A Huge State Of Play This Week, Do You Think We'll Get Any Big Xbox Reveals?
Since there'll be third-party games, it's basically a guarantee something in the showcase will come to Xbox.
Re: Xbox Sparks Confusion With $5 Gift Cards For 'Participating In The Black Ops 7 Campaign'
"It's so bad, we're paying you for playing it!" Amirite?!
Re: Three Xbox Games Dated For Nintendo Switch 2, Starfield Also Rumoured For PS5 In April
Indy is on the cartridge, I can imagine the Switch 2 version will sell pretty well in that case.
Re: Valve Admits Its New Console Plans Have Been Affected By Component Crisis
Not surprised. Everyone acts like this isn't an industry-wide issue. I doubt the price is exactly what people were expecting, either. I.e., it's higher than they'd hoped.
Re: 'We've Been Talking To Microsoft' - Epic Games Wants Its Store On The Next Xbox Console
That would honestly make some of my PC buys easier to roll over...
Re: Nioh 3 Could Mark The Series' Xbox Debut As Sony Confirms 6-Month PS5 Exclusivity
That would be nice.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@Ichiban exactly. Even my coffee table is an Xbox!
Re: Microsoft CFO Admits Xbox Revenue Was 'Below Expectations' In FY26 Q2
@Trmn8r exactly this. MS is not even trying to sell consoles, it seems.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Might Be Planning A Second Developer Direct Showcase For 2026
Given there are still some major games without specific release dates, that would make sense.
Re: In The US, 66% Of Xbox Series X|S Sales Were Digital-Only In 2025
@FraserG you're probably right.
Re: Roundup: Here's What Was Revealed At The Xbox Developer Direct 2026 Showcase
Good looking games. If they don't end up on NS2, I'll give them a whirl on Xbox.
Re: Roundup: The First Reviews Are In For Final Fantasy 7 Remake On Xbox Series X
Awesome news for Xbox players. I never doubted this would be a great version of this game.
Re: Ubisoft Cancels Multiple Games, Closes Studios, And Unveils New Strategy For The Future
What a bunch of clowns.
Re: Xbox Play Anywhere Is Convincing People To Buy Their Multiplatform Games On Xbox
@Gabrie I've had my eShop games for 8 years now. The reason 3DS and Wii U were closed is because of form factor and many of those games were ported over to Switch and now playable on NS2. The argument that they "may go away in a few years" could theoretically apply to anything digital so I consider that a moot point. I meant from a practical standpoint everything someone buys on Switch/2 is playable anywhere (and on one device) because of the form factor of the console.
Re: Xbox Play Anywhere Is Convincing People To Buy Their Multiplatform Games On Xbox
Switch 2 is "Play Anywhere" by default. I can play it at home or on the go.
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Star Wars Outlaws On Xbox Game Pass?
@Scrubchub agreed, a very small number of very loud people made this game sound terrible. It's actually really fun.
Re: Call Of Duty On Switch 2 Looks Imminent As 'Nintendo' Files Appear In COD App
Ah, the return of COD on a Nintendo console. I wonder if it uses mouse mode...
Re: Xbox Gives Refunds For Red Dead Redemption Following Recent Upgrade Issues
I was lucky enough to get it for free because I waited. Didn't seem worth paying for a game I beat recently (last year).
Re: Avowed Releases For PS5 Alongside Free 'Anniversary Update' On Xbox This February
Well, not long to wait for the new content. It was a good idea to hold off on starting this game, apparently.
Re: Former Elder Scrolls Online Boss Says Xbox Cancellation Drove Him To Leave Bethesda
@VeganH as pointed out by a commenter who replied to me, it appears this (or a variation thereof) is happening. They formed Sackbird studios.
Re: Former Elder Scrolls Online Boss Says Xbox Cancellation Drove Him To Leave Bethesda
Maybe we can get what Blackbird was supposed to be from a new studio.
Re: Xbox Console Sales 'The Worst On Record' In 2025 As Microsoft Shifts Focus (UK)
@Weebleman probably so, but you'd think their first statement was true. If MS were smart, they would have kept their games exclusive.
Re: Xbox Console Sales 'The Worst On Record' In 2025 As Microsoft Shifts Focus (UK)
I guess when you give people no reason to buy a console, you won't sell them. Now, the usual suspects are shifting the argument from "exclusives don't sell consoles" to "well, they don't WANT to sell consoles!"
And make no mistake, I believe MS is and was capable of improving Xbox sales. Clearly, the people at the top don't feel that is meaningful to the overall company. This is one example of why having multiple streams of revenue isn't always good for a specific brand within a company.