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Very intrigued by this. It feels like this should be the big console launch exclusive that sells the Series X.

Hopefully we'll hear a lot more about it soon.

Tony Hawk's baby! Let's go!

12th November, you say?

I'll take the Weezer-y looking one, please

That's pretty poor form. You'd like to think 2K would be trying to get good PR now but here we go again

Is a pretty dumb ad to run considering their stance on actual gaming on the go.

Man I really don't feel the cover art of this year's EA Sports titles at all

I kinda appreciate them trying to do something different so I guess there's that

@Grumblevolcano who else is gonna start a similar service though? PlayStation already have one, so do EA, Ubisoft, Google Stadia, and there are a few more smaller ones on PC as well.

Imitations is probably the wrong word as, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Game Pass one of the newest of the lot?

It's definitely interesting to see what happens over the next few years as subscription models really become a major player though.

I see what he's getting at with regards to what kind of deals will they offer developers/publishers when Game Pass is properly established.

What a mess. Don't know why they didn't just wait and announce a next gen version purely when it comes out.

At the moment it's too difficult to explain the differences/whether it's worth the upgrade etc, so why bother?

Just feels like dropping a grenade at your own feet.

Just played the first few levels and really enjoyed the opening.

Feels like the cutscenes/story bits could probably hold their own as an animated series.

Trying to download it now although for some reason it crashed during the install and now appears to be stuck about a 1/5 of the way through when I retry.

Good old PC gaming..

Xbox absolutely butchering the marketing of whatever their other new console actually is, as well as the Series X itself.

Very excited to try this out

Game streaming >

How about 19EAtyFour Play?

Maybe the Four Play bit is a sticky point..

BATTLETOADS! Excited for that and Flight Sim coming to Game Pass.

Plenty of other interesting games here too so definitely a big week.

I think it's too late to go back now but ideally yeah they'd just be focusing on making it for the Series X and PC.

They did a fantastic job with the Xbox One consoles when it comes to console noise. They're possibly the quietest disc-based consoles ever and when you consider what the One X can do with the likes of RDR 2 it's pretty incredible.

Not the first time the EU have gone after Apple either

@ralphdibny I think it's fair enough. It's just a little nod of nostalgia with a demo and gives fans something to play during the last few weeks before release.

Perhaps it would've been nice to put it out for free like a classic demo but it makes sense business wise

One day one of these gaming companies is gonna figure out how to communicate effectively.

One day.

For real though there's surely a new Banjo game in development somewhere, right? Just leaving money on the table if not

Conker the GOAT

Presumably this is why Stadia are having issues with Apple as well then. Pretty pathetic that they're being so stubborn like this

Well that's a terrible excuse

If I was in the market for a tablet, I'd be tempted by the S7.

I don't think I'll get much use out of Game Pass on my phone as I'm not really into such a small screen (and my phone isn't exactly small either) but a tablet is another ball game.

If they bring it to iPad, I'd probably use it every day.

Haha make your mind up. Think this was pretty inevitable tbh.

I don't really have any interest in the game anyway though

Probably Battletoads but will likely check out all of these

I think this makes sense. It's only a little thing, but it might help Game Pass stand out more on its own rather than always being 'Xbox Game Pass'

What's with all these glitches giving games for free lately?

Yeah it's totally baffling that they chose not to show any of this at the latest Showcase. Could've been the perfect balance after a majority of the games looked a long way off to reveal that this was coming out just a few weeks later.

Oh absolutely. I've got hardly any value out of GWG (or PS+) "free" games for a while now personally. Most of the bigger titles that come to these type of services I've already played if I have interest in.

With Game Pass around as well the games offered seem even less interesting usually.

But appreciate I'm somewhat privileged to be able to get a fair few games whereas others might be more dependent on the monthly games.

Riiiight. What is it though?

@gingataisen I think they're waiting for the DLC to come out and then they'll package it all in one physical release.

It's frustrating having to wait but I'd rather that than have a copy that's incomplete

Ooooh yeah I'm actually well up for this

"Exclusive"

This is cool though. It's such a great game that taking a look at concept art, developer commentary etc is certainly worthwhile.

I think it sounds like the DLC is gonna be pushed til 2021, which is disappointing but it's good that they're making sure it's ready and not just rushing it out.

LOL

You've gotta love Rare's honesty but it's pretty weird to put out a few teasers and then admit you're not even sure what kind of game you're making.

I'm not really a Halo guy so I guess all the little nods and visual callbacks wouldn't really do anything for me but thought it was a bit meh tbh.

The close ups looked pretty poor and while the open world looked fine, it was hardly mindblowing. Almost every other major FPS from this gen has looked better imo.

Obviously it's just a demo and is being played back on YouTube or whatever, but yeah.. it's no wonder they're getting questions about it. This was supposed to be their best foot forward.

I actually think this approach kind of makes sense anyway, especially with the Game Pass model they've set up.

30fps is fine. I really don't know why framerate is spoken about so much tbh. For some games sure, but most really don't matter.

I really don't understand why it didn't get a proper mention though. Same with the Cuphead DLC. Just show something.

The 3 stand outs for me were: The Medium, As Dusk Falls, and Tell Me Why.

The Medium looked like it wanted to try something new, which should always be exciting. It also just looked awesome. Really hyped for that one.

The latter two just look like the sort of narrative games I usually enjoy despite their flaws.

Just doesn't really seem worth it tbh.

I already have a One X and a decent PC so I can play all these exclusive games for a while yet.

By the time Hellblade 2 and Fable come out, who's to say there won't be another new Xbox console coming out?

I don't really understand the marketing plan either. I'd have thought they'd have wanted to go as big as possible to really make a splash in the mainstream media. It seems like they're always saying "and we've got even more to show later".. but when?!

I don't think there's anything here that's gonna make an article on the BBC for example, like the recent Sony showcase did.

I give it a C. Cool that everything is coming to Game Pass. Forza, Fable and Hellblade seem like they're a long way off. Little reason to get a Series X early now.

The Medium looked very exciting.

Disappointed at a lack of personal favourites (ie no Banjo, Conker, Cuphead etc)

@carlos82 I'm considering it but only because it's a game I've wanted for 20 years. I may well wait now though as the asking price is a bit much for a game like that imo

Unrelated to this article but I'm fascinated to see how well the new Crash Bandicoot game sells at launch given the price it's being listed for.

I don't think the universal increase is gonna happen like many thought a couple weeks ago.

While of course game development costs have risen, a major reason for that is because the profits are hugely up as well.

I just don't believe it's a good move financially for the vast majority of games. They'll sell less copies early doors and even more people will just look to sales or buy less games.