Control Publisher Says It 'Can't Offer A Next-Gen Upgrade To Everyone'

I feel it’s a lie. They can, they just won’t.

Look the kind of stuff Mafia did. If they wanted, they could give everyone with the season pass (or all DLC) access to this “ultimate version” (that at the end of the day is just the game + season pass.)

Just say that you need/want the extra money from fans that have bought your game already but please don't lie. Microsoft encourages third-party developers and publishers to offer free upgrades on Series X.

Imagine buying a game again for upgrading a GPU and added Ray Tracing. Didn’t they brag about how it only took one guy to upgrade Quantum Break to X1X?

@Royalblues at least persona games add some content. This is literally just a re-packaging.

I don’t own the game, but I refuse to buy it if this is how they will treat their user base. I got plenty other stuff to play through.

Now, I'm actually thankfull that they made some ps exclusive/timed exclusive stuff, so I decided to wait to get the game and all dlc's at a sale.

Now, it payed off and I get also the upgrade for the next gen for the reduced price of the ultimate expansion.

What a load of.......

Yea that may be biggest bunch of nonsense I have heard in a long time. Remedy chose to work with these clowns instead of sticking with Microsoft?!! 🙄

I feel like it’s a joke what there doing. It’s just essentially a patch to update the PS4/Xbox to next gen? If so we get patches now to improve graphics/gameplay and they don’t charge for that, so why charge now for the same thing?

Another reason to not buy games within their first year or so of release.

@Murray The Alan Wake DLC is also coming to Xbox FYI.

@Richnj

Exactly! This is an idiotic move by 505 Games & Remedy because why would I buy any game at launch if it’s going to get some “super duper ultimate godlike edition” released within a year? And now it’s $40 instead of $60.

They are doing it because they want more $, but they are also hurting themselves in that same aspect.

@Z3u5000 yeah, I know, theres one side mission and outfits we won't get

Even EA managed to produce an X1X specific patch for Mass Effect Andromeda....a game they more or less buried and forgot after launch backlash, and they patched it a year or more after release, and never even announced it, the patch just showed up one day and the game was just that much better on X1X.

If even EA can get this right....on a game they more or less abandoned entirely......while nobody was paying attention.....and just one ONE platform - with a platform specific patch that wasn't even going to be made for continued sale anyway.......How bad does 505 have to be?!

I mean. It is 505. They can. But they won't. Almost bought Control and the DLCs some weeks back but this announcement made me think better of it. And with this bold faced lie I'll just wait until I can find it used for cheap.

What I haven’t seen mentioned in any coverage of this is that Microsoft have a mandate where a publisher can’t charge and in-game fee to offer a next-gen update.

I guess they did that to discourage everyone charging money for upgrades and make them lean toward free. The work around seems to be offering a different edition of the game entirely. Which is what’s happening here.

So yes, it sucks. But they can’t offer an in app purchase for the original due to MS rules.

Marketing and PR speak, they should just say they want money to fund development of future games. No real reason they couldn't patch it.

@Scenes Yes. Because then changing the quality sliders from high to ultra is something that should be charged for. Good God. Before we know it we're going to have developers release a game once on a console. Then a year or two later sell a patch or a new copy of the same game with the sliders bumped to higher settings.

I’m not saying that at all. I would like it to be free also. Just explaining the situation as it’s stands and trying to answer an often seen question of - why can’t they just add the next gen update as DLC for the regular game. Because MS won’t let them.

This wreaks of bullsh— and I’m not buying one damn bit of it. Try again, 505.

@Scenes

So what is their excuse for doing the same to PlayStation owners?

I’ll answer that for ya...... they want more $ & 505 Games is a greedy company.

And people giving Remedy a pass on this (not here, but I have heard & seen elsewhere) & blaming it solely on the publisher..... um no.

Remedy chose to sign with 505 Games. Just like Bungie chose to make a deal with Activi$ion with Destiny. “You make a deal with a devil......”

@Scenes Microsoft has that rule so the next-gen version doesn't cost extra money. It's a way to force developers to offer a free upgrade on Series X. Because 505 Games doesn't want to do it, they decide that the owners of the original game and two expansions have to buy the game for Series X if they want it instead of offering a free upgrade like other (but not all) publishers. The rule of Microsoft is not to charge for an upgrade but offer it for free. If the publisher disagrees they have to release a separate version for Series X. Microsoft is consumer-friendly, 505 Games isn't.

@Medic_Alert A bit like Quantum Break, it is a good game, even the included TV episodes are. This studio say that their games sell well and that they don't expect to sell as much as a big company but they should sell an upgrade "tool", people that bought the game and the two expansions are left behind. It's a stupid marketing decision, I'm not big so I scam my fans, announce my decision and make up an excuse.

@roe Absolutely.

Exactly what I was saying. To be clear. The blame is with 505 Games. But I've seen a lot of critiscm from gamers willing to pay an 'upgrade fee' for their existing version and asking why that isn't available. I was trying to explain why. They can't do it because of Microsoft.

I saw this announcement just in time, a couple of weeks ago I was considering buying the expansions as I really enjoyed the base game. But they I rent that they wanted to double dip current purchasers and DLC wouldn't get me next gen upgrade so yeah, no DLC for me, I choose to take my money elsewhere.