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October makes sense actually, I didn't get the feeling it was dropping this summer, and a month after Starfield would be a good spot. I also expect Hellblade to come in November. Despite all of our whining (yes, me included), if they pull those 3 games off, it will have been a hell of a year.

@Fenbops I bounced off of it pretty hard too. If it's on Game Pass i might try again but yea I was bored.

It seems like some people only read the headline or something. I don't think Microsoft are saying that NONE of the games they.show are coming out in the next year, just that there will be a few that are farther out. Microsoft doesn't like to provide release dates anyway, and they probably feel like they burned themselves last year promising those games would be out within a year. Honestly if they say Forza, Starfield and maybe Hellblade 2 will be out within a year, maybe finally show Fable and State of Decay, with maybe a teaser of Elder Scrolls, I'd be satisfied.

Redfall's terribleness has been overstated. it's not like the worst game in history or anything. They dropped the ball to be sure, but the main issue with Redfall is that it feels aimless and unfinished. there have been MANY worse games. the shooting feels ok (could be better), the exploration is fine (could be better), etc. it's a 6/10 or so, not great but everyone should calm down.

@Sol4ris no offense to anyone, but i'm not sure enough people read this site to really do that lol

There's an enormous amount of negativity surrounding xbox right now. As disappointed as we are about the launch of Redfall, it sucks that people are behaving this way. I'll say again, if Forza and Starfield are good, this will have been a pretty damn good year overall.

@GuyinPA75 it comes down to what Arkane does. This game with fixed controls, 60 fps, and a patch to add more and possibly smarter enemies actually wouldn't be a bad game at all. I'm expecting a big patch in the next few months, Arkane is a very important studio for Xbox. This isn't the last word on Redfall.

Obviously it isn't great. It feels unfinished and unfocused, as everyone has said, BUT I expect there to be a patch at some point that improves the frame rate, enemy AI and enemy density, which would actually make it a decent time at least. I never saw Redfall as being as vitally important as a lot of people did, so that's just me

I've never heard Phil sound so defeated before. That probably can't be good.

@AverageGamer what does that have to do with now? If you hire someone and you realize it hasn't worked out, you hire someone else or you tear it all down. That's where they are if Starfield and Forza don't deliver.

To be fair, if Starfield is good (it probably will be), Forza comes out late this summer, and the third game is released (Hellblade 2 seems the most likely there), this will have been a very successful year. Redfall is a mess, but i think people might be going a little overboard. Now, if Starfield is trash....

Oh stop, Phil. Let's get something out of the way here. Microsoft has known for at LEAST a year that this game wasn't coming together. That's why they delayed it, that's why actual game play was rarely shown, that's especially why there was a review embargo. It was a trash game and Phil and everyone knew it. Maybe Arkane was hellbent on releasing it, who knows, but this pretending you didn't know what was happening is ridiculous. You released the game because you could see the game wasn't getting any better, you wanted to at least recoup some of your investment, and you were ready to have Arkane move on to Dishonored 3. Just say that.

I know we've been brutal (deservedly) on xbox for a few days, but to be be fair, if Forza, Stanfield, and the third game I suspect they're launching this year (I'm guessing Hellblade 2), come out and are in good shape, we really can't complain TOO much about the year.

Spencer pretty much admits what I've always wondered: Xbox is entirely TOO hands-off with their developers. There's something to be said for letting the teams work in peace, but the lack of oversight given to their projects is a MAJOR problem. whoever is responsible for keeping the teams on track, and getting these games completed on time and in good shape isn't doing a very good job to say the least. i think Microsoft is at a point where they will need to decide whether Xbox as a brand is worth continuing, but if it is, there will need to be a MAJOR restructuring, possibly starting with Phil himself. He's been in his position for 10 years and is Xbox in a much greater place than when he started? They were in distant 3rd place when he was promoted. where are they now..?

please.
PLEASE stop promising us stuff.
for once, for ONCE just deliver. make a good game. just do it.
just this once.

@Solidchief ....because they're fun and well-made....?

i think everyone who played Redfall yesterday came to a similar conclusion: it doesn't feel finished. Microsoft clearly knew the game wasn't coming along very well, which is why it was delayed (imagine how bad it would have been if they had released it LAST YEAR!). It just seems like Microsoft decided it couldn't delay the game again, so they dropped it. i figure there will be some small patches here and there and in the next few months a larger update to address some of the many issues. Think Fallout 76. I'll say it again: Starfield had better be good. I think pretty much everyone has one foot out the door by now.

A few hours in here, and if there is a silver lining, it's the gavt that this game has highlighted exactly what the problem is at Microsoft: their quality control is abysmal. They have had years to look at this game and see it wasn't coming together properly, to either cancel it or push it out, or of nothing else to ensure that these fairly obvious problems are ironed out. We know they knew that the game wasn't very good because of the review embargo (usually the sign of a bad game). Whoever is responsible for making sure games under the Microsoft umbrella come out ON TIME and more importantly in good shape, is stealing money at this point.

All I can say is that Starfield better be good...

I've played a few hours and the word that keeps coming to mind is "rushed". It feels like this project was pushed because Arkane felt it could be profitable, but it needed more time, even with the delays. I saw someone compare it to Fallout 76, which is fair, because I do expect there to be several extensive patches made for Redfall. It's probably a 6/10 right now but many of the shortcomings seem fixable, honestly. A patch could add more enemies, possibly make them more aware of you (they often just stare at you for a few seconds before reacting), some graphical polish, etc. There's a pretty good game in there somewhere, but this is a bad look right now. Microsoft needed a win here, especially after Benedict Fox. All I can say is that Starfield had better be great...

Is this the part where I faint from shock? Lol finding out that a 1st party Xbox game is possibly many years away from completion is no surprise.

What am I hoping to see?

Release dates they actually stick to?
Release dates, period?
Actual game play?
Updates on games they announced YEARS ago and haven't mentioned since?

So...the usual 🙄

"So whaddya think?"
"Looks amazing actually. We'll put it on Xbox on ONE condition: you're not allowed to actually announce a release date. "
"Why not?!"
"It's just how things work around here. In fact it'd be great if you announce the game, then disappear for like 2 years, then come back, ANNOUNCE a release date, then delay it a couple times. REALLY piss the gamers off. We hate them SO MUCH....."

@ParsnipHero if I never see another game announced 7 years early it'll be too soon lol

I want to see games that are coming out in the ensuing year.....

....and then actually (stay with me here) HAVE THEM COME OUT. ON TIME. IN GOOD SHAPE.

I'm a dreamer I know 😆

@abe_hikura remember the 2019 trailer-fest? How many of those games even have RELEASE DATES?

A whole hour of game announcements for games that will be released in 2027 lmao

The good news is that the showcase will be full of upcoming games.

Because that's the only kind of game Microsoft ever talks about. Games that are upcoming.

Soon.

They promise.

You know, seriously they ARE coming.

At some point.

Eventually.

Maybe in the next 12 months.

@Clankylad @nofriendo and it's weird because NOBODY really wants to hear about a game 7 years before it's done lol

@Wheatly INCREDIBLE. Someday, the incredible inability of Microsoft to release ANYTHING on time ever, will be the subject of a documentary lol, it is mind-blowing.

There's something SO weird about a developer announcing post launch DLC for a game that they haven't even been able to tell us a release date for. and then telling us they'll give us more details. but not telling us when. just...in the future someday. like the main game lol

We have to start using a word that I know a lot of fans don't want to use: incompetence. Microsoft's baffling inability to get really ANYTHING out the door in a reasonable amount of time is just...incompetence at this point. Yes Sony has made great games for decades, but I'm sorry, Microsoft has beaten themselves far more than anything.

@Meehanuk_1987 I'm right there with you lol. As soon as I'm done with Hogwarts Legacy, I'm out, I think. It's mind boggling how much trouble this company has getting games out the door. they have more money than they know what to do with, but can't get anything finished, ever.

...........they can't even manage to get the SHOWCASE ready.

@Chaudy th is is how they're justifying charging $200 dollars for it lol

@Grumblevolcano they should at LEAST let you choose which storyline you want to follow.

Great! Factoring in vague teaser trailers,.reports of troubled development, and two delays, we should be playing this by 2031 or so...

@stvevan it's not just Phil. Xbox has been poorly managed for most of its existence.

Anyone else notice that some Xbox executive says this before EVERY EVENT? I'll say it again:

This had better be good.

Everything is always coming soon. Just you wait, just be patient ,we have so much to show you at a later date, wait til next year....

They'd better nail Wednesday, or this is going to be the longest, shortest generation.....since last generation.

They had better bring release dates. Time is running out.

Um....no because it's good business when Sony buys exclusive content.

I've been saying for years: take away the silly tv show bits, and this was a GREAT game.

Ya think??

Microsoft is the single worst offender in this regard. Take a page from Nintendo: announce games when they're nearly done, it'll save a lot of headaches. The one time they didn't do that was Metroid Prime 4 but generally they're GREAT at this

This is going to be a fascinating year. It's either the year that the floodgates open actual 1st party games hit the shelf, or it could legitimately be the year Xbox goes over the cliff...

@TheCrafter1578 no, I agree completely. I played Elden Ring for nearly 100 hours because I found out how to over-level my character, which made the game about as difficult as an average game. I don't like these games otherwise and I'm really sick of almost every game being a soulslike. These are the people who made Nioh, one of the most ridiculous my over difficult games I've ever played. I quit after an hour lol

@NeoRatt 100% agree. Microsoft has a terrible habit of announcing games FAR too early. Part of it is probably because they literally weren't working on ANYTHING for several years, but man is it annoying.

How long do these studios think that teasing and promising to show stuff someday is going to work? How can they be SO tone deaf as to not understand that Xbox owners might be a LITTLE sick and tired of teases and promises?

@jordan1992 ....so, excluding an entire platform equals MORE sales? Does that sound right to you?

@Cyberpsycho if they walk away, Activision would almost certainly sue them.

For a console with no games, my backlog is a monster lol