"So whaddya think?" "Looks amazing actually. We'll put it on Xbox on ONE condition: you're not allowed to actually announce a release date. " "Why not?!" "It's just how things work around here. In fact it'd be great if you announce the game, then disappear for like 2 years, then come back, ANNOUNCE a release date, then delay it a couple times. REALLY piss the gamers off. We hate them SO MUCH....."
@Wheatly INCREDIBLE. Someday, the incredible inability of Microsoft to release ANYTHING on time ever, will be the subject of a documentary lol, it is mind-blowing.
There's something SO weird about a developer announcing post launch DLC for a game that they haven't even been able to tell us a release date for. and then telling us they'll give us more details. but not telling us when. just...in the future someday. like the main game lol
We have to start using a word that I know a lot of fans don't want to use: incompetence. Microsoft's baffling inability to get really ANYTHING out the door in a reasonable amount of time is just...incompetence at this point. Yes Sony has made great games for decades, but I'm sorry, Microsoft has beaten themselves far more than anything.
@Meehanuk_1987 I'm right there with you lol. As soon as I'm done with Hogwarts Legacy, I'm out, I think. It's mind boggling how much trouble this company has getting games out the door. they have more money than they know what to do with, but can't get anything finished, ever.
Microsoft is the single worst offender in this regard. Take a page from Nintendo: announce games when they're nearly done, it'll save a lot of headaches. The one time they didn't do that was Metroid Prime 4 but generally they're GREAT at this
This is going to be a fascinating year. It's either the year that the floodgates open actual 1st party games hit the shelf, or it could legitimately be the year Xbox goes over the cliff...
@TheCrafter1578 no, I agree completely. I played Elden Ring for nearly 100 hours because I found out how to over-level my character, which made the game about as difficult as an average game. I don't like these games otherwise and I'm really sick of almost every game being a soulslike. These are the people who made Nioh, one of the most ridiculous my over difficult games I've ever played. I quit after an hour lol
@NeoRatt 100% agree. Microsoft has a terrible habit of announcing games FAR too early. Part of it is probably because they literally weren't working on ANYTHING for several years, but man is it annoying.
How long do these studios think that teasing and promising to show stuff someday is going to work? How can they be SO tone deaf as to not understand that Xbox owners might be a LITTLE sick and tired of teases and promises?
I usually ignore this every month buuuut......Renegade Ops and the Dishwasher. This would be a great time to add some forgotten but awesome games from the old XBLA days. Throw in Bastion too while you're at it lol
I bought elden ring near launch and bounced off of it almost immediately (I'm terrible at those games). In September I happened across a video teaching me how to quickly raise my level early on. I re- specced my character and started over. I LOVE this game now, easily my game of the year, just took a little while lol
Not if it's just going to be them showing trailers for games that are years and years away, have no solid release date at ALL, or don't even have a solid genre nailed down (I'm looking at YOU, Everwild). I don't need more promises of games that are going to come out someday lol
@fox99 look, we can be salty and bash Sony if it makes us feel better, but the gact is, the games you noted got released. On time. And were well received. Ask yourself what you get out of defending Microsoft? I love my xbox but I've had it lol
@awp69 I'm not sure i believe there's a "great lineup" coming anymore. I assume they'll get Starfield over the goal line, and i think Forza will release, but at this point i could easily see them getting nothing else out except a bunch of excuses and promises. Terrible, nothing ever changes.
Every time that I think Microsoft is an incredibly unproductive gaming company, they top themselves. They showed...absolutely nothing. NOTHING. Think about this: Microsoft is allegedly releasing a BUNCH of games in 2023. Do you believe that now? Couldn't they put a SINGLE TRAILER together? They didn't even have the courtesy to TELL us they didn't do anything. I'm flabbergasted, to be honest. Phil Spencer was in the audience! NOTHING?! I'm actually really interested to hear the Xbox apologists explain this one. Every other announcement was something for PlayStation. Microsoft showed ZILCH. We STILL don't know when anything is coming, 3 YEARS after that famous sizzle reel. No Hellblade, no Forza, no Avowed. NOTHING. Incredible, that's all I can say.
I mean, certainly not a surprise, I'm sure there will be plenty of fake outrage lol, but this has been coming for a long time. Seems like Microsoft held out a long time. Nintendo will do the same, probably starting with their next system. Personally i rarely buy new anyway, but that's just me.
It gets even MORE interesting if you think about it. If you're Microsoft, why SHOULDN'T you keep games like COD, Diablo, Spyro, and many if not most of the IPs they own, multiplatform? They'll make a ton of money, while Sony is stuck playing the "console exclusives" game, and yes they'll sell more consoles and "win" the generation, while Microsoft will have to be satisfied with the enormous piles of money they'll make selling their games to anyone who wants to buy them. THAT will ultimately turn into pressure on Sony to do the same.
Because, and bear with me here, Corporations care more about making money than they do about winning an imaginary contest with another company.
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Re: Gears Of War Voice Actor 'Hasn't Heard Anything' About Gears 6
Is this the part where I faint from shock? Lol finding out that a 1st party Xbox game is possibly many years away from completion is no surprise.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Games Showcase 2023 Runtime Revealed By Microsoft Leaker
What am I hoping to see?
Release dates they actually stick to?
Release dates, period?
Actual game play?
Updates on games they announced YEARS ago and haven't mentioned since?
So...the usual 🙄
Re: Fantasy FPS 'The Explorator' Steals The Show At Xbox Indie Event
"So whaddya think?"
"Looks amazing actually. We'll put it on Xbox on ONE condition: you're not allowed to actually announce a release date. "
"Why not?!"
"It's just how things work around here. In fact it'd be great if you announce the game, then disappear for like 2 years, then come back, ANNOUNCE a release date, then delay it a couple times. REALLY piss the gamers off. We hate them SO MUCH....."
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See Most From The Xbox Games Showcase 2023?
@ParsnipHero if I never see another game announced 7 years early it'll be too soon lol
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See Most From The Xbox Games Showcase 2023?
I want to see games that are coming out in the ensuing year.....
....and then actually (stay with me here) HAVE THEM COME OUT. ON TIME. IN GOOD SHAPE.
I'm a dreamer I know 😆
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2023 Will Officially Take Place On June 11th
@abe_hikura remember the 2019 trailer-fest? How many of those games even have RELEASE DATES?
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2023 Will Officially Take Place On June 11th
A whole hour of game announcements for games that will be released in 2027 lmao
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2023 Will Officially Take Place On June 11th
The good news is that the showcase will be full of upcoming games.
Because that's the only kind of game Microsoft ever talks about. Games that are upcoming.
Soon.
They promise.
You know, seriously they ARE coming.
At some point.
Eventually.
Maybe in the next 12 months.
Re: Starfield Is Launching On Xbox This September, Developer Direct Arriving In June
@Clankylad @nofriendo and it's weird because NOBODY really wants to hear about a game 7 years before it's done lol
Re: Starfield Is Launching On Xbox This September, Developer Direct Arriving In June
@Wheatly INCREDIBLE. Someday, the incredible inability of Microsoft to release ANYTHING on time ever, will be the subject of a documentary lol, it is mind-blowing.
Re: Forza Motorsport Developer Update Hints At Post-Launch DLC Plans
There's something SO weird about a developer announcing post launch DLC for a game that they haven't even been able to tell us a release date for. and then telling us they'll give us more details. but not telling us when. just...in the future someday. like the main game lol
Re: Rumour: Fable Reboot Is 'Miles Away' While Xbox Focuses On Hellblade 2 And Avowed
We have to start using a word that I know a lot of fans don't want to use: incompetence. Microsoft's baffling inability to get really ANYTHING out the door in a reasonable amount of time is just...incompetence at this point. Yes Sony has made great games for decades, but I'm sorry, Microsoft has beaten themselves far more than anything.
Re: Rumour: Fable Reboot Is 'Miles Away' While Xbox Focuses On Hellblade 2 And Avowed
@Meehanuk_1987 I'm right there with you lol. As soon as I'm done with Hogwarts Legacy, I'm out, I think. It's mind boggling how much trouble this company has getting games out the door. they have more money than they know what to do with, but can't get anything finished, ever.
Re: Bethesda Is 'Still Sorting Stuff Out' For Xbox's Upcoming Starfield Showcase
...........they can't even manage to get the SHOWCASE ready.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Getting 'Final Fantasy 7' Content, In The Form Of PowerWash Sim DLC
@Chaudy th is is how they're justifying charging $200 dollars for it lol
Re: Rumour: Gears 6 Development Has 'Begun In Full' Within The Last Year
@Grumblevolcano they should at LEAST let you choose which storyline you want to follow.
Re: Rumour: Gears 6 Development Has 'Begun In Full' Within The Last Year
Great! Factoring in vague teaser trailers,.reports of troubled development, and two delays, we should be playing this by 2031 or so...
Re: Xbox Exec Wants Fans To Keep Developer_Direct Expectations In Check
@stvevan it's not just Phil. Xbox has been poorly managed for most of its existence.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants Fans To Keep Developer_Direct Expectations In Check
Anyone else notice that some Xbox executive says this before EVERY EVENT? I'll say it again:
This had better be good.
Re: Soapbox: January's Developer_Direct Could Be The Start Of Something Big For Xbox
Everything is always coming soon. Just you wait, just be patient ,we have so much to show you at a later date, wait til next year....
They'd better nail Wednesday, or this is going to be the longest, shortest generation.....since last generation.
Re: Soapbox: January's Developer_Direct Could Be The Start Of Something Big For Xbox
They had better bring release dates. Time is running out.
Re: Konami Is Open To More 'Silent Hill' Pitches After Announcing PS5-Exclusive Remake
Um....no because it's good business when Sony buys exclusive content.
Re: 'Quantum Break' Actor Gets Behind Fan Requests For A Potential Sequel
I've been saying for years: take away the silly tv show bits, and this was a GREAT game.
Re: Talking Point: Are Games Announced Too Far In Advance?
Ya think??
Microsoft is the single worst offender in this regard. Take a page from Nintendo: announce games when they're nearly done, it'll save a lot of headaches. The one time they didn't do that was Metroid Prime 4 but generally they're GREAT at this
Re: Xbox Fans Are Still Hoping For A 'Showcase' Event Later This Month
This is going to be a fascinating year. It's either the year that the floodgates open actual 1st party games hit the shelf, or it could legitimately be the year Xbox goes over the cliff...
Re: Xbox Game Pass Adventure 'Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty' Continues To Impress In Latest Preview
@TheCrafter1578 no, I agree completely. I played Elden Ring for nearly 100 hours because I found out how to over-level my character, which made the game about as difficult as an average game. I don't like these games otherwise and I'm really sick of almost every game being a soulslike. These are the people who made Nioh, one of the most ridiculous my over difficult games I've ever played. I quit after an hour lol
Re: Xbox Studio Ninja Theory Hints At More Hellblade 2 Info 'In The New Year'
@NeoRatt 100% agree. Microsoft has a terrible habit of announcing games FAR too early. Part of it is probably because they literally weren't working on ANYTHING for several years, but man is it annoying.
Re: Xbox Studio Ninja Theory Hints At More Hellblade 2 Info 'In The New Year'
How long do these studios think that teasing and promising to show stuff someday is going to work? How can they be SO tone deaf as to not understand that Xbox owners might be a LITTLE sick and tired of teases and promises?
Re: Xbox Fans Want To Know What's Going On With Square Enix In 2023
@jordan1992 ....so, excluding an entire platform equals MORE sales? Does that sound right to you?
Re: 10 Random 'Gamers' Are Suing Microsoft Over The Activision Blizzard Deal
@Cyberpsycho if they walk away, Activision would almost certainly sue them.
Re: Here Are The Top 10 Xbox Games Of 2022 According To Metacritic
For a console with no games, my backlog is a monster lol
Re: Talking Point: What January 2023 Xbox Games With Gold Do You Want?
I usually ignore this every month buuuut......Renegade Ops and the Dishwasher. This would be a great time to add some forgotten but awesome games from the old XBLA days. Throw in Bastion too while you're at it lol
Re: Another Nine Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass Soon (December 31)
I can't recommend Scarlet Nexus highly enough, it's fantastic and severely underrated.
Re: Microsoft Refers To Lack Of Xbox Exclusives As Why ActiBlizz Deal Should Be Approved
That works out to less than 3 exclusives a year.
Yikes.
Re: Hey Microsoft, Could We Please Get Our Xbox 'Year In Review' Stats For 2022?
I got you.
Elden Ring was really good, Microsoft released absolutely nothing,
Phil Spencer sat at the Game Awards like a kid who knew he hadn't done his homework and hoped he wouldn't get called out.
He got called out.
Xbox is still trying to buy Activision, but Sony is literally like, "hey no fair, then they might start competing with us!"
The FTC said, "actually that's true, see you in court!"
Xbox super pinkie swears they will release a bunch of games next year, they really mean it this time [Copied and Pasted from 2021, 2020, 2019].
You're welcome.
Re: Poll: What Is Your Xbox Game Of The Year For 2022?
I bought elden ring near launch and bounced off of it almost immediately (I'm terrible at those games). In September I happened across a video teaching me how to quickly raise my level early on. I re- specced my character and started over. I LOVE this game now, easily my game of the year, just took a little while lol
Re: Talking Point: Should Xbox Start Doing Its Own 'Nintendo Direct' Style Showcases?
No. Just no.
Not if it's just going to be them showing trailers for games that are years and years away, have no solid release date at ALL, or don't even have a solid genre nailed down (I'm looking at YOU, Everwild). I don't need more promises of games that are going to come out someday lol
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
@fox99 look, we can be salty and bash Sony if it makes us feel better, but the gact is, the games you noted got released. On time. And were well received. Ask yourself what you get out of defending Microsoft? I love my xbox but I've had it lol
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
@BrilliantBill think about the fact that you had to go ALL THE WAY back to the Ps3 era lol. Cmon man.
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
@BrilliantBill if Starfield was a ps5 exclusive, it would be out by now.
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
Xbox says this, Xbox says that.
Xbox is full of crap like always.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Game Awards 2022?
@Spaceman-Spiff Absolutely, positively NOTHING.
Now just wait for Phil's excuses tomorrow. should be great.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Game Awards 2022?
@awp69 I'm not sure i believe there's a "great lineup" coming anymore. I assume they'll get Starfield over the goal line, and i think Forza will release, but at this point i could easily see them getting nothing else out except a bunch of excuses and promises. Terrible, nothing ever changes.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Game Awards 2022?
Every time that I think Microsoft is an incredibly unproductive gaming company, they top themselves.
They showed...absolutely nothing. NOTHING. Think about this: Microsoft is allegedly releasing a BUNCH of games in 2023. Do you believe that now? Couldn't they put a SINGLE TRAILER together? They didn't even have the courtesy to TELL us they didn't do anything. I'm flabbergasted, to be honest. Phil Spencer was in the audience! NOTHING?! I'm actually really interested to hear the Xbox apologists explain this one. Every other announcement was something for PlayStation. Microsoft showed ZILCH. We STILL don't know when anything is coming, 3 YEARS after that famous sizzle reel. No Hellblade, no Forza, no Avowed. NOTHING. Incredible, that's all I can say.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think Microsoft Will Be Able To Acquire Activision Blizzard?
Wouldn't it be interesting if it turned out that Activision had some kind of deal in place to publish the next couple of Sekiro games?
Re: Xbox First-Party Games Are Officially Getting A Price Increase In 2023
I mean, certainly not a surprise, I'm sure there will be plenty of fake outrage lol, but this has been coming for a long time. Seems like Microsoft held out a long time. Nintendo will do the same, probably starting with their next system. Personally i rarely buy new anyway, but that's just me.
Re: Three Games Are Available Today With Xbox / PC Game Pass (December 1)
I bought Eastward on Switch and devoured it, and yes I've started it again on Game Pass. It's incredible.
Re: Talking Point: As Of Right Now, What's Your Xbox Game Of The Year For 2022?
It's clearly Elden Ring.
Hopefully next year they'll be some question lol
Re: Xbox Learnt From 'Shipping Games Too Early' When Delaying Starfield
I feel like "let's never ever release anything on time ever again except Forza Horizon" was a bit of an overreaction.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Adamant Call Of Duty Will Remain On PlayStation 'Longer Term'
PART 2:
It gets even MORE interesting if you think about it. If you're Microsoft, why SHOULDN'T you keep games like COD, Diablo, Spyro, and many if not most of the IPs they own, multiplatform? They'll make a ton of money, while Sony is stuck playing the "console exclusives" game, and yes they'll sell more consoles and "win" the generation, while Microsoft will have to be satisfied with the enormous piles of money they'll make selling their games to anyone who wants to buy them. THAT will ultimately turn into pressure on Sony to do the same.
Because, and bear with me here, Corporations care more about making money than they do about winning an imaginary contest with another company.