I don't agree with everything Phil does, but this was the right decision. The Ps4 Pro and One X solved an existing problem (the base consoles struggled to play games at 4k). The PS5 Pro solves a non-problem (now games that already look really good might look really really good if you sit close enough to your screen...maybe!). It's an enthusiast machine which is fine, but it simply isn't essential. Most games that release today don't even tax the base machines.
Microsoft's business going forward will revolve around selling software, which they have always been great at. They own several massive IPs, and selling consoles has never been particularly profitable for any of the major companies. Sony has also started down this road, and that will accelerate as soon as Microsoft starts to regularly reap more profit than they do. There will probably be at least 2 more console generations, but the industry is transitioning.
@pepsilover2008 .... Like,say, creating a "Pro" version of their current hardware that provides fairly minor upgrades (and not even to every game), but for a ridiculous price?
One of the guys from Digital Foundry compared the moment to moment gameplay to the Chronicles of Riddick, one of my favorite games ever. So if I wasn't in before...
I've always said this: if you think Death Stranding is boring and monotonous, I totally get it. If you think it's incredible....I totally get it. I'm in the latter camp. The idea of the traversal in the game BEING the gameplay ( in most games it's an afterthought) is genius to me. No yellow handholds, quest markers only if YOU put them on your map, having to thoughtfully manage your encumberance (no magic pockets lol). I absolutely love this game, but i understand it's not for everyone ð
@Bigmanfan it would depend on who made it, imo. The success of Astrobot does suggest that fans would support a well-made platformer. If they really want to go for it, "Banjo-Kazooie meet Conker" writes itself.
Someday someone is going to make a comprehensive list of all of the potential hit franchises that Microsoft has abandoned because the first game didn't hit some arbitrary sales figure. Ryse had a ton of potential that would probably have been reached had they been smart enough to greenlight a sequel.
It's made a ton of money for Microsoft, and dumped a bunch of games most of us have already played into game pass. If you care about COD you're probably pretty happy, but most people haven't been affected by the merger at all.
My question is if they're going to just put what few homegrown exclusives they have on playstation, why bother making another xbox console? Who is going to choose to buy that when they can buy a PS6 and choose from pretty much every game that releases? Xbox needs a unified plan so badly lol
I remember having a feeling of dread when I heard "1000 planets". I'd thought and hoped that Bethesda was making a game around ONE planet (remember, planets are BIG) with maybe the surrounding moons and the space between. Imagine every city in the game being on one planet. DLCs could have eventually added more planets maybe. This ended up being the best example ever of a game being spread too thin. The campaign was pretty good actually (although I hated the lazily-designed temples), but this just wasn't a great game overall.
It's well past time he was fired. Satya needs to figure out what he wants Xbox to be, then find someone capable of creating a singular vision and then actually execute it. When he was hired, most people simply wanted Microsoft to do a better job of creating compelling games more consistently. That was it. We never asked for Game Pass. We certainly never asked for 57 tiers of Game Pass. We asked for better games designed around Xbox hardware. Games to release on time. New franchises beyond Halo/Gears/ Forza. He hasn't accomplished ANY of these things. 10 years later almost every game is delayed. Most finally release to mediocre scores. The best new franchise Xbox has had in 20 years saw the studio shut down right after the game released. Phil himself ADMITS that he has made a lot of dumb decisions. I don't like calling for anyone's job, but the first sign that Microsoft is serious about Xbox will be when they part company with Phil and his staff.
The answer is and has always been install base. Microsoft has struggled MIGHTILY to give gamers a compelling reason to choose xbox, and making games is expensive so developers lean towards platforms that are likely to yield a profit.
The frustrating thing about Hellblade as a franchise is that if they would just work on the gameplay, give it just a little actual combat beyond the barebones system it has now, something more fleshed out, Xbox would have God of War with a better story. I loved it anyway, but better gameplay and replace those annoying puzzles.
@themightyant the only thing I would say is that both Microsoft and Sony probably know what the approximate specs of their next consoles are going to be. The next year or two will most be about figuring out who the manufacturers will be (Sony recently announced who'll be making the chips for the PS6) and what the machines will look like etc. I'm guessing the next generation Xbox will launch in 2027 as well.
@Tyrant_T103 I would LOVE to see them let id or even Activision have a crack at Halo. 343 just doesn't have the storytelling ability. The ideas they've come up with have all been great, but the execution has always missed the mark.
Not a surprise. Microsoft doesn't care about xbox anymore anyway. Their gaming revenue will be coming from the companies they've acquired. They're nearly ENCOURAGING everyone to play elsewhere. The next Xbox will probably be the last one.
You almost can't even blame Phil (I don't think he's really been in charge for at least 6 mos.). Satya doesn't give a damn about gaming or Xbox. He's doing whatever he can to squeeze every penny out of Microsoft gaming that he can. I wouldn't be surprised if the next box didn't have "xbox" on it at all and was just called the "Microsoft Whatever". The plan seems to change daily, I'm sure the fans are tired ð
@fbnaulin you sure? Because they announced it 5 years ago, all we've seen is 1 trailer that MIGHT have been gameplay and nothing close to a solid release date.
Tbh I was generally quite disappointed. I actually enjoyed the main campaign, but the moment they announced "1000 planets" I had a feeling that the game was going to be exactly what it was: a big-for-no-reason, mostly empty hull of a game. Bethesda games are known for their density of things to do, and this game was devoid of that. Most of the outposts look exactly the same, too many quests went nowhere. I STILL dont understand why there would be inhabitable planets with one city on them. I could go on but this was one of the most disappointing games I've played in a long time, considering who made it.
@themightyant Nintendo usually does this perfectly. Most of the time, big games are announced less than a year before release. Microsoft seems to announce their games right after the pitch meeting ð
It would have been fine except for Xbox themselves hyping it up like we'd better watch because they had earthshaking news and reveals, which they didn't.
@Cakefish a console platform is CLEARLY not Microsoft's focus. The Wii U died 8 years ago (ten really) and things have changed considerably. Microsoft sees their gaming future as being outside of the console. Eventually all three console makers probably will, but Microsoft,being perpetually in 3rd place, is always ready to jump first.
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Re: Xbox Boss Provides Multiple Reasons Why A 'PS5 Pro' Competitor Isn't Necessary
I don't agree with everything Phil does, but this was the right decision. The Ps4 Pro and One X solved an existing problem (the base consoles struggled to play games at 4k). The PS5 Pro solves a non-problem (now games that already look really good might look really really good if you sit close enough to your screen...maybe!). It's an enthusiast machine which is fine, but it simply isn't essential. Most games that release today don't even tax the base machines.
Re: Reaction: Like It Or Not, Xbox Has Gone Full Throttle On Multiplatform
Microsoft's business going forward will revolve around selling software, which they have always been great at. They own several massive IPs, and selling consoles has never been particularly profitable for any of the major companies. Sony has also started down this road, and that will accelerate as soon as Microsoft starts to regularly reap more profit than they do. There will probably be at least 2 more console generations, but the industry is transitioning.
Re: Reaction: Like It Or Not, Xbox Has Gone Full Throttle On Multiplatform
@pepsilover2008 ....
Like,say, creating a "Pro" version of their current hardware that provides fairly minor upgrades (and not even to every game), but for a ridiculous price?
Re: Xbox Drops Extended Indiana Jones Gameplay Ahead Of Game Pass Release
One of the guys from Digital Foundry compared the moment to moment gameplay to the Chronicles of Riddick, one of my favorite games ever. So if I wasn't in before...
Re: Review: Death Stranding Director's Cut - Kojima's Masterpiece Is Finally Delivered (In Perfect Condition) To Xbox Consoles
I've always said this: if you think Death Stranding is boring and monotonous, I totally get it. If you think it's incredible....I totally get it. I'm in the latter camp. The idea of the traversal in the game BEING the gameplay ( in most games it's an afterthought) is genius to me. No yellow handholds, quest markers only if YOU put them on your map, having to thoughtfully manage your encumberance (no magic pockets lol). I absolutely love this game, but i understand it's not for everyone ð
Re: Is Death Stranding 2 Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
Kojima Productions owns the IP now so yes it will almost certainly come. I would assume 2026 or 2027, no more than 2 years after DS2 releases on PS5.
Re: Soapbox: Four Years On, I'm Already Nostalgic For The Early Xbox Series X|S Era
Lol there games from that initial group of announced titles that STILL haven't come out ð ð !
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
Certainly not surprising. Microsoft has recognized that services and software was the best source of revenue going forward.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Released One Of Its Best-Ever Exclusives 10 Years Ago Today
.....and then they refused to greenlight a sequel, and THEN they declined to buy Insomniac.
Re: Microsoft Boasts About Owning '20 Franchises That Have Generated Over $1 Billion'
@Zenszulu i think the point is that they don't care about any of that because LOOK AT ALL THIS MONEY!!!!!
Re: Satya Nadella's Huge Pay Package Generates Headlines Following Recent Xbox Layoffs
@gollumb82 oh no, they believe it.
Re: Xbox Exec Dismisses Rumour That He Doesn't Care About Banjo-Kazooie
@Bigmanfan it would depend on who made it, imo. The success of Astrobot does suggest that fans would support a well-made platformer. If they really want to go for it, "Banjo-Kazooie meet Conker" writes itself.
Re: Ryse: Son Of Rome - The Story Behind This Classic Xbox One Launch Title
Someday someone is going to make a comprehensive list of all of the potential hit franchises that Microsoft has abandoned because the first game didn't hit some arbitrary sales figure. Ryse had a ton of potential that would probably have been reached had they been smart enough to greenlight a sequel.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal One Year On?
It's made a ton of money for Microsoft, and dumped a bunch of games most of us have already played into game pass. If you care about COD you're probably pretty happy, but most people haven't been affected by the merger at all.
Re: Talking Point: Does Xbox's 'New Dawn' For Halo Mean The Series Will Come To PS5?
My question is if they're going to just put what few homegrown exclusives they have on playstation, why bother making another xbox console? Who is going to choose to buy that when they can buy a PS6 and choose from pretty much every game that releases? Xbox needs a unified plan so badly lol
Re: Starfield Taught Us That Fans 'Really' Want Elder Scrolls 6, Jokes Bethesda
I remember having a feeling of dread when I heard "1000 planets". I'd thought and hoped that Bethesda was making a game around ONE planet (remember, planets are BIG) with maybe the surrounding moons and the space between. Imagine every city in the game being on one planet. DLCs could have eventually added more planets maybe. This ended up being the best example ever of a game being spread too thin. The campaign was pretty good actually (although I hated the lazily-designed temples), but this just wasn't a great game overall.
Re: Is Silent Hill 2 Remake Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
Is anyone else sick to death of "iS tHiS gAmE CoMiNg tO xBoX?" Articles?
How does Phil still have his job????
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Gets Busy Meeting Loads Of Japanese Devs At TGS 2024
I like Phil. He seems like a good person.
It's well past time he was fired. Satya needs to figure out what he wants Xbox to be, then find someone capable of creating a singular vision and then actually execute it. When he was hired, most people simply wanted Microsoft to do a better job of creating compelling games more consistently. That was it. We never asked for Game Pass. We certainly never asked for 57 tiers of Game Pass. We asked for better games designed around Xbox hardware. Games to release on time. New franchises beyond Halo/Gears/ Forza. He hasn't accomplished ANY of these things. 10 years later almost every game is delayed. Most finally release to mediocre scores. The best new franchise Xbox has had in 20 years saw the studio shut down right after the game released. Phil himself ADMITS that he has made a lot of dumb decisions. I don't like calling for anyone's job, but the first sign that Microsoft is serious about Xbox will be when they part company with Phil and his staff.
Re: Xbox Wants More Feedback From Devs, Including Why Some Are Avoiding The Platform
The answer is and has always been install base. Microsoft has struggled MIGHTILY to give gamers a compelling reason to choose xbox, and making games is expensive so developers lean towards platforms that are likely to yield a profit.
Re: Best Xbox Exclusives
@BAMozzy the story is great, the gameplay isn't particularly enjoyable and puzzles are repeated too often. Variety in gameplay is good.
Re: Starfield Shattered Space DLC Launches To Zero Reviews Across Xbox & PC
No review codes ahead of launch....
....probably a GOOD sign, right?
Re: Best Xbox Exclusives
The frustrating thing about Hellblade as a franchise is that if they would just work on the gameplay, give it just a little actual combat beyond the barebones system it has now, something more fleshed out, Xbox would have God of War with a better story. I loved it anyway, but better gameplay and replace those annoying puzzles.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft To Launch Next-Gen With Series X Successor & Handheld Xbox
@themightyant the only thing I would say is that both Microsoft and Sony probably know what the approximate specs of their next consoles are going to be. The next year or two will most be about figuring out who the manufacturers will be (Sony recently announced who'll be making the chips for the PS6) and what the machines will look like etc. I'm guessing the next generation Xbox will launch in 2027 as well.
Re: Xbox Exec Reveals How Much Money Microsoft Has Made From Halo
@Tyrant_T103 I would LOVE to see them let id or even Activision have a crack at Halo. 343 just doesn't have the storytelling ability. The ideas they've come up with have all been great, but the execution has always missed the mark.
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Initially 'Clashed' With Phil Spencer When Working Together
It sounds like exactly the clusterf@ck everyone thought it was.
Re: Tango Gameworks' New Owner Doesn't Even Expect Hi-Fi RUSH 2 To Make Money
Microsoft continues to run xbox like it's nothing but a business.
How's that going?
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales Estimated At Under Half Of PS5 In New Report
Not a surprise. Microsoft doesn't care about xbox anymore anyway. Their gaming revenue will be coming from the companies they've acquired. They're nearly ENCOURAGING everyone to play elsewhere. The next Xbox will probably be the last one.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Employees 'Completely Confused' About New Xbox Strategy, Says Insider
You almost can't even blame Phil (I don't think he's really been in charge for at least 6 mos.). Satya doesn't give a damn about gaming or Xbox. He's doing whatever he can to squeeze every penny out of Microsoft gaming that he can. I wouldn't be surprised if the next box didn't have "xbox" on it at all and was just called the "Microsoft Whatever". The plan seems to change daily, I'm sure the fans are tired ð
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
Lol how funny would it be if Microsoft announced a new software-based supersampling technique that works on existing hardware? And it was free?
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
@Romans12 if you have physical games.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
I think this is Sony trying to feel out how this thing sells. If it does well, expect this to be the starting price of the ps6 and Xboxwhatever.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
Microsoft knows better lol. Sony doesn't have the library this Gen to justify this behemoth, so you KNOW Microsoft doesn't lol
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
$700, plus $75 for disk drive, plus tax.
For slightly nicer hair and shiny stuff.
They're on drugs ð
Re: It's Been 365 Days Since One Of The Biggest Releases Of The Xbox Series X|S Era
@StonyKL the temple sections were TERRIBLE. Who thought that would be fun?! Every temple should have been it's own puzzle/dungeon. That was just lazy.
Re: Undead Labs Is Shifting Its Full 'Focus And Resources' To State Of Decay 3
@fbnaulin you sure? Because they announced it 5 years ago, all we've seen is 1 trailer that MIGHT have been gameplay and nothing close to a solid release date.
Re: It's Been 365 Days Since One Of The Biggest Releases Of The Xbox Series X|S Era
Tbh I was generally quite disappointed. I actually enjoyed the main campaign, but the moment they announced "1000 planets" I had a feeling that the game was going to be exactly what it was: a big-for-no-reason, mostly empty hull of a game. Bethesda games are known for their density of things to do, and this game was devoid of that. Most of the outposts look exactly the same, too many quests went nowhere. I STILL dont understand why there would be inhabitable planets with one city on them. I could go on but this was one of the most disappointing games I've played in a long time, considering who made it.
Re: Enotria Dev Publicly Thanks Xbox & Phil Spencer For Helping To 'Resolve' Delay Situation
@themightyant I'm saying this developer is making a huge whiny fuss over a game that doesn't exactly look like it's going to set the world on fire.
Re: Undead Labs Is Shifting Its Full 'Focus And Resources' To State Of Decay 3
@themightyant Nintendo usually does this perfectly. Most of the time, big games are announced less than a year before release. Microsoft seems to announce their games right after the pitch meeting ð
Re: Undead Labs Is Shifting Its Full 'Focus And Resources' To State Of Decay 3
......they're only just now doing this? Didn't they announce this game like 5 years ago?
Re: Enotria Dev Publicly Thanks Xbox & Phil Spencer For Helping To 'Resolve' Delay Situation
Lol, now watch the game review at a 6.
Re: Phil Spencer Talks About Two Activision Games That Xbox Missed Out On Signing
@PsBoxSwitchOwner if Phil played Redfall before it released and thought it was good, he should be fired IMMEDIATELY.
Re: Phil Spencer Talks About Two Activision Games That Xbox Missed Out On Signing
This encapsulates xbox. For the past 15 years or so they've been run by people who had absolutely no idea what they are doing.
Re: Final Fantasy Dev Insists The Future Is Bright For Square Enix Games On Xbox
@BlueSheepz ....or they could just stop making promises and release the games...?
Re: Talking Point: What Did You Think Of Gamescom 2024 Overall?
It would have been fine except for Xbox themselves hyping it up like we'd better watch because they had earthshaking news and reveals, which they didn't.
Which is so on-brand for Xbox it's crazy ðĪŠ
Re: Microsoft's New Xbox Series X And S Console Lineup Launches This October
@gamer5634 the PS5 Pro will probably land at $599.00. I would be shocked if it was any more.
Re: Avowed Gets Massive Uncut Gameplay Demo During Xbox's Final Gamescom Event For 2024
I would be quite shocked if there is no 60fps patch down the line, everyone calm down.
And of course it's looking far along. It was supposed to be out in a couple of months. It's probably finished I would think.
Re: Talking Point: Does Microsoft Have A '30FPS' Problem With Its Xbox Series X|S Output?
No. People have a whining problem.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Comments On Indiana Jones PS5, And Microsoft's Plan Moving Forward
@Cakefish a console platform is CLEARLY not Microsoft's focus. The Wii U died 8 years ago (ten really) and things have changed considerably. Microsoft sees their gaming future as being outside of the console. Eventually all three console makers probably will, but Microsoft,being perpetually in 3rd place, is always ready to jump first.
Re: Microsoft's New Xbox Series X And S Console Lineup Launches This October
@ProNF every single game:
CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK!!!
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Comments On Indiana Jones PS5, And Microsoft's Plan Moving Forward
@StylesT I think that Microsoft likes Phil as a figurehead, but you're right. I don't think he's making a lot of decisions anymore.