@GADG3Tx87 zero chance. Not even Disney would test a deal they signed with Microsoft. This was just Microsoft realizing they would make a ton of money by releasing this game everywhere.
Lol playstation fans having to wait like 3 months for Indy the same day Genshin Impact is announced for Xbox after like 5 years AND while FF 16 and 7 still aren't announced is the most xbox thing ever.
@NEStalgia a free demo of Game Pass Vista professional 2, an autographed picture of Phil's mansion, some Xbox 360 socks, and access to Game Pass Sorry, a program that informs you about the latest game delays before anyone else!
Remember kids, Game Pass Standard is not to be confused with Game Pass Diet, which is entirely different. Oh and it's NOTHING like Game Pass Infinite. It's also not exactly like Game Pass XL, but it's close. On the other hand, Game Pass Ordinary won't be available until 2025, so in the meantime just subscribe to Game Pass: San Francisco. Hope that helps!
Microsoft is treating xbox like it's nothing but a revenue stream. As a result, they don't really care about anything but making money. Exclusive content? Quality games? Release dates? They don't care. They're going to announce that Horizon 5 is going to Playstation at some point this week. Why? Because they'll make money.
Microsoft is basically just a 3rd party publisher that just so happens to produce a console. Avowed will probably end up on Playstation, as will Indiana Jones and the next Elder Scrolls. It is what it is. Not the end of the world really.
I expect them to put all of their live service type games on everything. It will make Microsoft a lot of money, and incentivize staying in the console space. This isn't a big deal.
Microsoft has one of its best new IPs in YEARS just fall into their lap. It's exactly the kind of thing that has been missing from their portfolio and pretty much everyone loves it.
So they immediately shut the studio down, and now they've sold off the IP as well.
How do ANY of these people still have their jobs?!
It doesn't even matter if they said it. The fact that it's completely believable that a developer WOULD say is extremely telling about the state of this sinking ship lol
I mean...if you're not used to disappointment with xbox by now lol. The problem is that no one believes anything they say about pretty much anything. I'll believe indy is coming out WHEN it comes out. I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if we're still not playing Avowed in the spring of 2025. Microsoft has burned all their goodwill.
@Ilyn @Ilyn "frustrating to unsubscribe" is subjective. If you're too lazy to do that, then you aren't trapped, you're too lazy to do something. Consoles aren't likely to go away anytime soon. They will most likely provide a premium experience for people who want to play with the highest specs short of a pc. This is ALREADY HAPPENING. the vast majority of people in Xbox's ecosystem aren't playing on a console. The variety of services are choice. Having to own a certain console in order to play a certain game? that's much closer to being trapped.
@Ilyn how are you trapped? Let's say you want to play Starfield but you only have a PS5 and a PC. There is an easy, straightforward way to do that without having to buy an xbox. You want to watch a movie, you COULD always just buy it. You aren't required to buy new hardware every time you want to watch a TV show. AND, it's perfectly doable to buy any of these services for a month to watch whatever you want to. You aren't trapped at all lol. The future is that you'll be able to play whatever game you want without having to buy multiple boxes.
@Ricky-Spanish as I always say, gamers are the only Fandom that puts up with being locked out of certain content this way, and then told that it's a good thing.
This is the way forward. Microsoft has frequently been the most willing to go first. Once they establish a profitable business, Sony will follow. Nintendo will take several years to do the same. In the end, games won't be trapped on any one plastic box, and you'll be able to play whatever you want on whatever you want to play it on.
Hopefully they're more than straightforward remasters, as the games are well over 25 years old, and HOPEFULLY Sony hasn't paid them to put the games on every electronic device on earth except for Xbox lol
Make better 1st party games, and release them in a timely manner. That is literally all we EVER asked for. No one asked for ANY of this, and let's be honest: they still haven't given us what we did.
I think it will end up being 7 years. Microsoft has some work to do to earn trust back. I can't see myself investing in another console from them right now. Some of the games they have coming needto land first.
@BHPM I think it's their THIRD largest division! I don't get it either. It seems to come from Nadella, who was about to shut xbox down entirely in 2017. If it were entirely up to him, they'd walk away today.
@BHPM Microsoft hasn't cared about xbox in a long time. They'll be perfectly happy to sit back and rake in the COD and Minecraft money. Once they turn a profit on their investment, they're out. I wouldn't be surprised if there IS no next console.
Remember kids, these games are only playable if you have Game Pass Core or Ultimate. You can't play them if you have Game Pass Basic, Game Pass Simple, Diet Game Pass, or Game Pass Beautiful. The games may be made available for Game Pass Texas, Game Pass Vanilla or Game Pass Gluten Free in the future, but we haven't decided yet. Games available for Game Pass Gametastic will be decided on a Game-Pass-by-Game-Pass basis.
Phil, and in fact much of the leadership, need to go. Indeed, Microsoft needs to make a decision about the continued existence of Xbox, because at this point, they're just getting on everyone's nerves. You get the feeling that if Microsoft ever did decide to leave the console space, it would be announced via a short, vague press release, probably the day after Phil gives an interview assuring the fanbase that everything is fine and Xbox will be around forever.
This has been my #1 problem with Xbox for years. I'm sorry but Phil has to go. Xbox HAS to be led by someone capable of creating and executing a concrete, straightforward plan. Notice that once again he's gone missing when there's bad news? Not great leadership.
@NEStalgia all this nonsense when ALL WE ASKED THEM FOR was games. 'Hey Microsoft, why can't you get better games over the finish line?' Turned into all this....and most of their first party games STILL aren't that good.
The showcase was great, but now Microsoft has to actually deliver on the games. To be honest, we've spent a lot of time waiting and waiting for games that come out after numerous delays and are 7/10 if we're lucky. They've gotten better overall but some of these games need to hit a little harder
Much much less. I still love gaming but I have far less time to actually do it. This is probably a big part of the reason why I dislike games with long cutscenes, this is time I could be actually playing lol
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Re: Reaction: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle's PS5 Announcement Marks A Bold Step For Xbox
@GADG3Tx87 zero chance. Not even Disney would test a deal they signed with Microsoft. This was just Microsoft realizing they would make a ton of money by releasing this game everywhere.
Re: Xbox Begins Rolling Out 'Game Pass Standard' To Insiders For Just $1
@NEStalgia it got delayed.
Also, even though it's an xbox controller, it's been announced for PS5.
But that version wasn't delayed, so they all have theirs already.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Hits Xbox This December, And A PS5 Port Is Officially Coming
Lol playstation fans having to wait like 3 months for Indy the same day Genshin Impact is announced for Xbox after like 5 years AND while FF 16 and 7 still aren't announced is the most xbox thing ever.
Re: Xbox Begins Rolling Out 'Game Pass Standard' To Insiders For Just $1
@NEStalgia a free demo of Game Pass Vista professional 2, an autographed picture of Phil's mansion, some Xbox 360 socks, and access to Game Pass Sorry, a program that informs you about the latest game delays before anyone else!
Re: Xbox Begins Rolling Out 'Game Pass Standard' To Insiders For Just $1
@WhiteRabbit oh that's GamePass Laissez-Faire.
Re: Xbox Begins Rolling Out 'Game Pass Standard' To Insiders For Just $1
@WhiteRabbit I apologize. Please allow us to give you a free 1 month subscription to Game Pass Pretty Decent.
Re: Xbox Begins Rolling Out 'Game Pass Standard' To Insiders For Just $1
Remember kids, Game Pass Standard is not to be confused with Game Pass Diet, which is entirely different. Oh and it's NOTHING like Game Pass Infinite. It's also not exactly like Game Pass XL, but it's close. On the other hand, Game Pass Ordinary won't be available until 2025, so in the meantime just subscribe to Game Pass: San Francisco. Hope that helps!
Re: Former Xbox Exec Defends Phil Spencer's Recent Decisions As Head Of Xbox
And that is exactly the problem.
Microsoft is treating xbox like it's nothing but a revenue stream. As a result, they don't really care about anything but making money. Exclusive content? Quality games? Release dates? They don't care. They're going to announce that Horizon 5 is going to Playstation at some point this week. Why? Because they'll make money.
Microsoft is basically just a 3rd party publisher that just so happens to produce a console. Avowed will probably end up on Playstation, as will Indiana Jones and the next Elder Scrolls. It is what it is. Not the end of the world really.
Re: Xbox Insider Insists Forza Horizon 5 Will Go Multiplatform At Some Point
I expect them to put all of their live service type games on everything. It will make Microsoft a lot of money, and incentivize staying in the console space. This isn't a big deal.
Re: The Outer Worlds 2 Is 'Looking Incredible' During Development, Says Obsidian CEO
Great! See you in 2027 when you announce that it's been delayed until 2028!
Re: Highly-Anticipated Xbox Platformer REPLACED Has Been Delayed To 2025
Xbox Series D.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Studio Tango Gameworks Revived, Acquired By PUBG Publisher
So let me get this straight.
Microsoft has one of its best new IPs in YEARS just fall into their lap. It's exactly the kind of thing that has been missing from their portfolio and pretty much everyone loves it.
So they immediately shut the studio down, and now they've sold off the IP as well.
How do ANY of these people still have their jobs?!
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Studio Tango Gameworks Revived, Acquired By PUBG Publisher
Microsoft finds a new way to make fools of themselves every day lol
Re: Rumour: Xbox Handheld System Will Sit Alongside 'A Series X Successor'
Dammit.....
.......one of each, please.
Re: Phantom Blade Zero Dev Throws Shade At Xbox Before Studio Issues Statement
It doesn't even matter if they said it. The fact that it's completely believable that a developer WOULD say is extremely telling about the state of this sinking ship lol
Re: Talking Point: How Would You Feel If Xbox's Major Fall Release Is Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6?
I mean...if you're not used to disappointment with xbox by now lol. The problem is that no one believes anything they say about pretty much anything. I'll believe indy is coming out WHEN it comes out. I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if we're still not playing Avowed in the spring of 2025. Microsoft has burned all their goodwill.
Re: Phantom Blade Zero Dev Throws Shade At Xbox Before Studio Walks Back Comment
@InterceptorAlpha my current game pass ultimate subscription is up at the end of August. Then I'm out lol
Re: Report: Xbox Has Formed A New Team To Build 'Games Based On Existing IP' At Blizzard
The team's first project, despite not being announced yet nor development having been started, has been delayed.
Re: Xbox Dev Obsidian Has Seemingly Started Work On A Brand-New Project
@abe_hikura I like that you factored in the inevitable delays.
Re: Xbox Dev Obsidian Has Seemingly Started Work On A Brand-New Project
And the game is already delayed.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
Microsoft is going to be the first company to announce a game delay during the game's reveal trailer.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
@OldGamer999 they would announce that they intend to run the race next Thursday.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
This is pretty much the only thing I was looking forward to.
I'm just kind of over Xbox at this point.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
@OldGamer999 indy is DEFINITELY next to be delayed.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
Xbox strikes again.
This company's inability to deliver anything on time is absolutely legendary.
Re: Samsung Now Selling 'Select' TVs Bundled With Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
@Ilyn @Ilyn "frustrating to unsubscribe" is subjective. If you're too lazy to do that, then you aren't trapped, you're too lazy to do something. Consoles aren't likely to go away anytime soon. They will most likely provide a premium experience for people who want to play with the highest specs short of a pc. This is ALREADY HAPPENING. the vast majority of people in Xbox's ecosystem aren't playing on a console. The variety of services are choice. Having to own a certain console in order to play a certain game? that's much closer to being trapped.
Re: Samsung Now Selling 'Select' TVs Bundled With Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
@Ilyn how are you trapped? Let's say you want to play Starfield but you only have a PS5 and a PC. There is an easy, straightforward way to do that without having to buy an xbox. You want to watch a movie, you COULD always just buy it. You aren't required to buy new hardware every time you want to watch a TV show. AND, it's perfectly doable to buy any of these services for a month to watch whatever you want to. You aren't trapped at all lol. The future is that you'll be able to play whatever game you want without having to buy multiple boxes.
Re: Samsung Now Selling 'Select' TVs Bundled With Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
@Ricky-Spanish as I always say, gamers are the only Fandom that puts up with being locked out of certain content this way, and then told that it's a good thing.
Re: Samsung Now Selling 'Select' TVs Bundled With Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
This is the way forward. Microsoft has frequently been the most willing to go first. Once they establish a profitable business, Sony will follow. Nintendo will take several years to do the same. In the end, games won't be trapped on any one plastic box, and you'll be able to play whatever you want on whatever you want to play it on.
Re: More Crystal Dynamics Remasters Could Be On The Way
Hopefully they're more than straightforward remasters, as the games are well over 25 years old, and HOPEFULLY Sony hasn't paid them to put the games on every electronic device on earth except for Xbox lol
Re: Tomba! Special Edition 'Not Planned' For Xbox Despite Recent ESRB Rating
Ahhh, to be a second-class citizen 😆
Re: Xbox Reportedly 'Exploring Potential' For Various New Game Pass Tiers
Make better 1st party games, and release them in a timely manner. That is literally all we EVER asked for. No one asked for ANY of this, and let's be honest: they still haven't given us what we did.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think This Generation Will Be A Short One?
I think it will end up being 7 years. Microsoft has some work to do to earn trust back. I can't see myself investing in another console from them right now. Some of the games they have coming needto land first.
Re: Sony PlayStation 'Regrettably Outspends Us', Says Xbox EMEA Marketing Boss
@BHPM I think it's their THIRD largest division! I don't get it either. It seems to come from Nadella, who was about to shut xbox down entirely in 2017. If it were entirely up to him, they'd walk away today.
Re: Sony PlayStation 'Regrettably Outspends Us', Says Xbox EMEA Marketing Boss
@BHPM Microsoft hasn't cared about xbox in a long time. They'll be perfectly happy to sit back and rake in the COD and Minecraft money. Once they turn a profit on their investment, they're out. I wouldn't be surprised if there IS no next console.
Re: Remember Driver On Xbox? Ubisoft Says It's Working On 'Exciting Projects' For The Franchise
Free to play MMORPG Soulslike roguelike metroidvania gacha remake remaster coming right up!
Re: Talking Point: If You Had To Limit Yourself To Three Xbox Games, What Would They Be?
Why, is this another new Game Pass tier?
Re: Here Are The Top 10 Most Popular Trailers From The Xbox Games Showcase 2024
I love how they say "the negativity surrounding Xbox" as if it isn't self-inflicted lol.
Don't you HATE it when people are mad at you because of your actions?
Re: Free Play Days: Try These Xbox Games For Free (July 11-14)
Remember kids, these games are only playable if you have Game Pass Core or Ultimate. You can't play them if you have Game Pass Basic, Game Pass Simple, Diet Game Pass, or Game Pass Beautiful. The games may be made available for Game Pass Texas, Game Pass Vanilla or Game Pass Gluten Free in the future, but we haven't decided yet. Games available for Game Pass Gametastic will be decided on a Game-Pass-by-Game-Pass basis.
Re: Rumour: Day One Releases Delayed On A 'Case-By-Case Basis' For Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
So they've created a tier that is COMPLETELY useless 🤔 ...
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
Phil, and in fact much of the leadership, need to go. Indeed, Microsoft needs to make a decision about the continued existence of Xbox, because at this point, they're just getting on everyone's nerves. You get the feeling that if Microsoft ever did decide to leave the console space, it would be announced via a short, vague press release, probably the day after Phil gives an interview assuring the fanbase that everything is fine and Xbox will be around forever.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
This has been my #1 problem with Xbox for years. I'm sorry but Phil has to go. Xbox HAS to be led by someone capable of creating and executing a concrete, straightforward plan. Notice that once again he's gone missing when there's bad news? Not great leadership.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
@somnambulance that's LITERALLY all we asked for.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
@NEStalgia all this nonsense when ALL WE ASKED THEM FOR was games. 'Hey Microsoft, why can't you get better games over the finish line?' Turned into all this....and most of their first party games STILL aren't that good.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
My current subscription ends in September; I'm done after that, I've already set it to not automatically renew. I've had enough.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
@Retron me too. My current subscription ends in September, then I'm heading over to Playstation.
Re: The Incredible 'ESPN NFL 2K5' Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary This Month
I'll never forgive EA for taking competition out of sports games. This is why sports games pretty much don't change at ALL year to year.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's 2024 Showcase Felt Like A Throwback To The 360 Era, In The Best Way Possible
The showcase was great, but now Microsoft has to actually deliver on the games. To be honest, we've spent a lot of time waiting and waiting for games that come out after numerous delays and are 7/10 if we're lucky. They've gotten better overall but some of these games need to hit a little harder
Re: Talking Point: Has Your Gaming Slowed Down As You've Got Older?
Much much less. I still love gaming but I have far less time to actually do it. This is probably a big part of the reason why I dislike games with long cutscenes, this is time I could be actually playing lol
Re: Microsoft Makes Statement On The Xbox Delay For Black Myth: Wukong
@evan23 ........."becoming"?