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What do I want to see them do with it?

How about finishing it? That would be great.

But everything is fine.

Ok great so let's see, based on Microsoft's recent history:

1. The reveal will be a CG trailer.

2. The game will somehow be in early development.

3. No release date will be mentioned.

4. We'll see absolutely NOTHING of the game for at least 3 years.

5.) Right around the time you'd think the game should be nearly done, they'll be an announcement that the team is hiring animators.

6.) Firings at the studio.

7.) A trailer with a release date premiers.

8.) The game's delay is announced.

9.) The game receives another trailer and new release date. A special edition controller is also revealed.
10.) Release day yaaaay!!! 8/10 IGN.

@shoeses every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol. My point is that Microsoft has bailed on a lot of franchises, and to this day always seems to be struggling to put high quality software on the shelf. This has nothing to do with playstation, who seems to be doing fine in this area lol. They can afford to leave franchises unused, because they always remember to start new ones.

Have you guys ever stopped to think about all of the franchises that xbox has abandoned? If it had been a playstation property we'd be getting Blue Dragon 5 this Christmas. Someone should make a list of abandoned franchises lol

Like 85% of being an xbox owner is hoping games come over from Playstation lol

@abe_hikura it's just an excuse for why they literally don't try to make games outside of forza and Halo. 20+ years and they still have 3 franchises home grown. It's ridiculous.

@DarkCvrle25 No company in the history of gaming has spent more time making promises than Microsoft. What they have earned is this: I'll believe that those games are coming this year and will be more than a 7/10 when it happens. Ten years of delays, cancelations and just ok final releases will do that to a person lol

"What should we build that will attract new players...?"

Have you considered...games, Phil?

You know, considering how massively mismanaged xbox has been for the past 10 or so years, it's almost impressive that they've lasted this long. Someday someone is going to make a FASCINATING documentary about just how dysfunctional and incompetent things were behind the scenes. I feel like we don't know the half of it...

@HonestHick you're making my point for me. Whatever percentage of the audience that has the top-end TV to run games at 4k 120, will see the most benefit, and 4k 60 is great, but the returns for the average gamer aren't going to be earth-shattering. Now if Sony sells this thing for $500, great it can replace the current model full stop, but at $600, where it very well may land? It's a niche product.

When the PS4 pro and Xbox One X came out, the reason for them was fairly obvious. Many of the games at the time where pushing the base hardware to its limit. That doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. Many if not most games are still coming out for PS4 and Xbox. Very few people have 8k tvs which suggests that few games will take advantage of that. Raytracing's effect on games is still very debatable. Finally the vast majority of games will be designed to run well on every console. I don't know who really NEEDS a Pro console besides people who just want to SAY that they have one...

It was the ONE generation where Microsoft did a decent job of releasing software on time and in a reasonably good state. It helped that Sony dropped the ball early on, but this was the one truly consistent generation of Xbox.

In true Microsoft fashion they completely obliterated every drop of goodwill they worked so hard for literally at the ANNOUNCEMENT of their follow up system, but that's neither here nor there lol

My only problem with this is their continued refusal to simply state whether or not it's ever coming to Xbox. We shouldn't have to decipher statements and infer intent. This is a simple yes or no question that they (and Phil Spencer for some reason) refuse to answer directly, and it's gotten BEYOND annoying. That and the tone deaf way Microsoft keeps letting Square show up to showcases to announce things no one asked for lol

I'm hearing "Fable so far from being finished that they're still hiring developers "

Hire him and put him in charge of 343 lol

I'm sick and tired of it myself, and I'm sick and tired of Microsoft consistently failing to do anything about it.

This is SO stupid. No one gave a crap about this game when it was announced (I played the first game, and it was pretty fun), but as soon as it releases and is good, suddenly there's a petition? I agree that the console wars are dumb, but this just comes across as desperate xbox gamers.

I think covid is going to have one last laugh here. I'm guessing the new machine is out in 2027, in November as usual, and it will launch with a Halo game, a Forza and Elder Scrolls 6 in the launch window. And I think it will be surprisingly powerful.

@theduckofdeath EXACTLY. And if this brings big money to Microsoft, Sony will end up following suit, and for once the gamers will benefit lol

My two cents:

When Microsoft announced Game Pass, a lot of people laughed and said it would fail. A lot of other people, myself included, said that Sony would stand by and wait, and if the service made money Sony would have their own service soon. Not only did they, but Nintendo even had their version as well.

It's the same here. Not to disappoint the console warriors but if and more than likely WHEN Microsoft starts raking in the money by ignoring the ridiculous exclusive idea, Sony will eventually do the same. Sure, at first Sony will puff their chests out and probably make their summer showcase an "Only on Playstation" fest, but Sony likes money too, and they would LOVE to sell Spider-Man to everyone who wants to buy it. Exclusivity is archaic, anti-consumer nonsense that ONLY gamers put up with or promote, and it's far past time for it to end. Microsoft is taking a calculated risk here, but they aren't wrong.

@CharlieChooChoo using the tech from Flight Simulator drool

Jade Empire, Mechassault, Crimson Skies and Blue Dragon, to start.

I'm not going to pretend that I know how much a game should cost to make, but I WILL say that anytime you see a game set in a version of the past, or a fantasy realm and the dialog is lazily modern English, you're in trouble lol. It also doesn't help when despite the trappings at the end of the day, the game is just a shooter. It had a few good ideas, but this was a prime example of a half-baked game.

Microsoft are (SURPRISE SURPRIIIIIIIISE) handling this terribly. I have the feeling they are going to vomit out some sort of vague statement that doesn't even address the main issues, after making everyone wait a week lol

Could be argued that it was the most useless peripheral ever lol

@Carck I agree completely. I've owned every Xbox, and to realize that this is more than likely my last one is sad.

Bad news that Phil will try his damnedest to make sound like good news.

This might be...

....and this is saying a LOT...

...but this might end up being the dumbest thing they've ever done. And this is a company who thought it was a good idea to try to ban sharing games.

And tried to force us to own a kinect, which the audience CLEARLY didn't want.

And tried to casually introduce DRM to their console as if it was GOOD news.

And stopped greenlighting games for over a year.

And passed on buying Insomniac.

And thought they could buy Nintendo.

And made their 2014 E3 video game conference about TV functionality instead of video games.

This might end up being THE dumbest thing.

I'd buy it as long as it's not stream-only. I'd like to be able to download my games. Even better if the machine took the same memory cards as the series console. Especially because Microsoft makes good machines in general. They'd over design the thing lol. OLED screens and haptic feedback, 4k 120 lol

Haptics are great, but Let's hope the new controller is less CLICKY lol it drives me nuts!

@BBB I found it to be a bit of a padded slog. It was fine and I finished it, but I'm not nearly as high on it as most people swim to be.

There will be an xbox after the Series x/s, but after that (up to 15 years from now), the market will be massively different. Gaming will be largely digital, something you do through your phone, tv or computer. "Xbox" will essentially be an app, as will Playstation and Nintendo (actually Nintendo is so stubborn they may be still making Switch 3 lol)

In some ways, Starfield is the epitome of what's wrong with open world games: the focus seemed much more on the game being huge than on it being compelling. It's a fun playthrough but there's too much bloat, and too many things thay don't make sense which breaks immersion for me.

I was blown away by this trailer. I consider Shinobi 3 to be one of my favorite games ever. I can't wait!

Great, another announcement of a game that is likely 4 years away. Super.

@eire-shabba or have Destiny 3 with an actual honest-to-goodness single player mode. In place of the current muddled nonsense it calls single player now.

They should take a cue from Sony and just start remaking the remakes.

Resident Evil 4 Remake 4k Remaster Champion Edition.

Oh and spread it over 3 games like Square so you can charge $200 for it. They'll have to add hours of bloat, but they can manage.

I played Starfield for about 40 hours all told. I had a good time, but I'm fairly certain I'm not going back for a while. Bethesda made a huge mistake by going with the "1000 planets" thing. The game should have taken place across like...3 planets densely packed with things to do. They seemed to go with 1000 because it sounds like a big impressive number, but it made the game too thin. A mile wide but an inch deep as they say. I love Bethesda...but I got bored.

NOBODY announces projects that are never coming to fruition like Microsoft.

I enjoyed Starfield well enough, but no WAY it's one of the 6 best games this year. And that's ok.

@Mephisto2869 that's exactly my point. Gamers are the ONLY people who have to do that.

@GunValkyria I'm legitimately annoyed that I "had" to buy a ps5 to play square's games, I literally play everything else on Xbox.

This is the biggest nothing burger ever.
If we're still not getting FF7 Remake, we don't CARE.
If we're still never getting FF 16 we don't care. What does this even mean? That in 5-7 years when FF 17 comes, we MIGHT see it on Xbox?? Phil REALLY stood on that stage, knowing that xbox fans want those games, to tell us that FF 14 was coming? Knowing the other games weren't coming?
Star Ocean 2 remake? No?
This whole thing is meaningless!

@thebizniznizbiz yea that's what I'm doing, keeping last year's title, the new one isn't worth it. EA needs to bring back NBA Live, for competition.

Weird, right? It's almost like if you actually manage to put decent games on the shelf people will buy your console...

@thebizniznizbiz it's literally the only NBA title on the market. You don't think it's successful?

Really enjoyed that. Interesting that every game mentioned has already released except for HellBlade. Could be a hint that it will be released relatively soon...

I might be an outlier, but I'm more interested in what new IPs will be created. There are some very talented people in there, I want to see what they can create from scratch.

@BAMozzy I do love these games but I'm extremely selective about them because I know I probably won't finish them