@Snake_V5 very rare for Sony and MS to make pure profit from hardware now. Not until at least mid to late through the gen. That said pandemic will factor in.
Subscriptions and Services are the big earner these days.
@UltimateOtaku91 I disagree. We have seen in tv/movie circles shows and films exlusively on streaming services creators have felt freedom to take risks due to guaranteed income. Some of those risks have paid off massively. So going pure subscription hasnt been a bad thing.
I think it will be the same on gaming. Devs will receive a lump sum guaranteed. Could breed complacency sure, but I think that freedom to take risks knowing money is coming in regardless will empower devs not hinder them or put pressure on to rush through meidocre products.
Them being enemies is just something being portrayed in the media to generate hits.
This is a win for both companies. Sony gets the benefit of Microsofts cloud infrastructure and expertise. And in turn Microsoft gets a massive client buying into Azure that would otherwise probably go to Amazons service.
I too wonder why Sony think theirs will be unique though. All I can think of they have some big plan to make their entire back catalogue streamable. Might be a licensing nightmare there though.
Despite some opinions on here I am going to say something I am sure I will get it in the neck for.
I dont think for the average joe they would see Game Pass as essential until next gen first party games start to appear on there and Microsofts first party output on there increases.
What I wont get it in the neck for saying is when that does happen. That 23 million? Will double in a very short space of time. E3 will be big for that. The value is great as it is but with all the first party output on there too? Immense.
I think even racing game haters would agree Forza Horizon 4 sets itself apart from them. In a market almost saturated with racers its a one of a kind game.
Its not really Sony putting it on Game Pass. Its MLB wanting it on there and making that happen.
That said it will rile Sony up. They will have to respond soon. They could put it on PS Now but that will set a precedent quicker than they would like I'd imagine.
Seeing far too much sensitivity about a poll...standard.
Phil has been a game changer for the brand. They had a lot of work to do to repair some bad PR after the Xbox One launch. Was a genius move putting him charge done a cracking job and now the brand is fighting on all cylinders again.
@LtSarge Mafia Definitive Edition? Cracking game that. Was so dissapointed with the Mafia 2 remaster and all the glitches nearly put me off going for Mafia 1 but Hangar 13 nailed it.
@mousieone @LtSarge @Medic_Alert I think we can all agree every big tech company wants a stranglehold on their markets these days and it is a general concern. MS is no exception to that. I do think the Bethesda purchase does some good though. They needed to increase their pool of first party studios and got it in one go. Sony do a similar thing but slowly acquiring smaller studios as its more financially viable to do that for them, but both working to the same ends.
My take with Discord specifically though. I dont think its a move to take over the messaging space. Rather, they are in need of a platform that suits the gaming space.
Skype and Teams although large brands are very business-centric and tailored towards the corporate office environment now.
Discord sits away from that and more in the gaming and general entertainment community space.
I think it would be a good and relevant acquisition. I just dont think Discord necessarily need it. I think going public on the stock exchange is better for them the interest from large investors would be immense.
Live Gold will be phased out eventually. MS will be the first of the three to make the move back to free multiplayer.
But they will wait until the last minute timing wise to do it when Game Pass peaks enough they can absorb the capital hit of not having live subscriptions anymore.
I think its close. But there are still a fair few Xbox Gamers subscribed to live and not Game Pass.
@themightyant wasnt a fan of Infinite as much as first two Bioshocks but love the series. Same with Dishonored just playing through Dishonored 2 at the mo.
@TrueAssassin86x Shu and Phil always have the banter going on and play similar games. Cerny an avid gamer also. Even Ken "always miserable" Kuteragi back in the day gamed on all 3.
I get where you were going with that though. Jim Ryan just doesnt act like he bothers playing what he sells. Lol.
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Re: Review: Resident Evil Village - An Action-Centric Follow-Up That Can't Quite Hit The Highs Of Its Predecessor
@PJOReilly cracking review. I like a review that goes against the grain somewhat without looking like its a ploy to get clicks.
Was always going to be difficult to blend Resi 7 and 4 together. Sounds like they did a good job of that overall though.
Re: Hold Up, Why Is Psychonauts 2 Already Available To Pre-Load On Xbox?
I am quite willing to bet this is an error....right now. But they are ballsy enough to shadow drop this at E3.
Re: Talking Point: Will Activision Ever Get On Board With Xbox Game Pass?
Bobby Kotick still in charge over there? Would explain a lot if he is.
Re: Microsoft Confirms It Never Earns A Profit On Xbox Console Sales
@Snake_V5 very rare for Sony and MS to make pure profit from hardware now. Not until at least mid to late through the gen. That said pandemic will factor in.
Subscriptions and Services are the big earner these days.
Re: Roundup: Here’s What The Critics Are Saying About Resident Evil Village
@Bmartin001 not surprised with IGNs though 🤣
Re: Rumour: Starfield Will Be An Xbox Exclusive, Could Release This Holiday
@LtSarge Not naive thinking. Some on here do oversell it slightly but thinking about it.
The Xbox One first party output late in its cycle was relatively low particularly during the year before next gen dropped.
Those devs have been busy beavering away on next gen titles. Not without possibility some of them could drop this year in quick succession.
First party will increase on Xbox exponentially over the next couple of years and I also like you think a few could drop close together this winter.
Re: Rumour: It Looks Like We Know When Elden Ring Is Getting Revealed
@ThanosReXXX the same population from other sites dragging threads down creeping in here now. Sad really.
Re: NieR Replicant's Console Version Reportedly Runs Best On Series X
Xcloud for PC will form part of the announcements here I reckon
Re: Dirt 5's Player Numbers Have Been 'Shockingly Huge' On Xbox Game Pass, Says Dev
@UltimateOtaku91 I disagree. We have seen in tv/movie circles shows and films exlusively on streaming services creators have felt freedom to take risks due to guaranteed income. Some of those risks have paid off massively. So going pure subscription hasnt been a bad thing.
I think it will be the same on gaming. Devs will receive a lump sum guaranteed. Could breed complacency sure, but I think that freedom to take risks knowing money is coming in regardless will empower devs not hinder them or put pressure on to rush through meidocre products.
Re: The New Internet Browser On Xbox Is Adding Keyboard & Mouse Support
@Senua if they add Microsoft Teams app to Xbox would be perfect. I can take all.my work calls while playing Forza.
Re: PlayStation Is 'Exchanging Ideas' With Xbox For Its Cloud Gaming Strategy
Them being enemies is just something being portrayed in the media to generate hits.
This is a win for both companies. Sony gets the benefit of Microsofts cloud infrastructure and expertise. And in turn Microsoft gets a massive client buying into Azure that would otherwise probably go to Amazons service.
I too wonder why Sony think theirs will be unique though. All I can think of they have some big plan to make their entire back catalogue streamable. Might be a licensing nightmare there though.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox Without Game Pass In 2021?
For me I would buy one either way and have.
Despite some opinions on here I am going to say something I am sure I will get it in the neck for.
I dont think for the average joe they would see Game Pass as essential until next gen first party games start to appear on there and Microsofts first party output on there increases.
What I wont get it in the neck for saying is when that does happen. That 23 million? Will double in a very short space of time. E3 will be big for that. The value is great as it is but with all the first party output on there too? Immense.
Re: Pick One: If You Could Only Play One Of These, Which Would It Be?
Ori and Halo are amazing games.
I think even racing game haters would agree Forza Horizon 4 sets itself apart from them. In a market almost saturated with racers its a one of a kind game.
Re: Video: Here's The PlayStation Intro To MLB The Show 21 On Xbox Series X
I own all 3 so maybe Im biased to the hype but I honestly dont get the big deal.
MLB published it on Xbox but Sony developed it so their logo was bound to feature.
@TheFrenchiestFry probably not as I think Bethesda will still show as the publisher. But nothing would surprise me after this past year.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 17th)
PS5 - Assasins Creed Valhalla and trying to finish Astro
Series X - more FH4 and Yakuza 7
Switch - Mario 3D world
Re: Several Parties Interested In Buying Square Enix, According To Report
I could see Apple and Epic Games getting in the mix also.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Now Has Amazon Alexa Support In The US
Not for me. My 6 year old son is getting a bit too clever. My SSD would be full by the time I got home.
Re: Video: EA Reveals Side-By-Side Comparison For The Mass Effect Remaster Trilogy
@Generik its EA. By their standards this is modern standards.
Re: Rumour: Is The Switch On Phil Spencer's Shelf Teasing An Xbox Collab With Nintendo?
@Bmartin001 agree. Alot of ambitious theories doing the rounds but likely related to smash bros.
Re: Video: EA Reveals Side-By-Side Comparison For The Mass Effect Remaster Trilogy
I am waiting for an EA play day 1 announcement but wont happen now 🤣 looking forward to it though.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 10th)
PS5 - Crash 4 and Dirt 5
Series X - Yakuza 7 and more Forza Horizon 4
Switch - Mario 3D World
Re: Here Are The Full Patch Notes For Halo: MCC's Season 6 Update
55GB for an update. Oh dear. Might have to get that Seagate drive after all running low on space 🤣
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 3rd)
Series X - more Forza Horizon 4 and Yakuza Like a Dragon
PS5 - Tony Hawk, Crash 4 and Assassins Creed Valhalla
Switch - Mario 3D World. Not got round to the Bowsers Fury side yet might give it a bash this weekend.
Re: Incredibly, Sony Is Bringing MLB The Show 21 To Xbox Game Pass
Its not really Sony putting it on Game Pass. Its MLB wanting it on there and making that happen.
That said it will rile Sony up. They will have to respond soon. They could put it on PS Now but that will set a precedent quicker than they would like I'd imagine.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates Seven Years As The Head Of Xbox
Seeing far too much sensitivity about a poll...standard.
Phil has been a game changer for the brand. They had a lot of work to do to repair some bad PR after the Xbox One launch. Was a genius move putting him charge done a cracking job and now the brand is fighting on all cylinders again.
Re: Video: Here's A Taste Of Google Stadia Running On An Xbox Series X
Stadia is dead in the water.
Agree with previous commenters though. The workaround is great for accessing PC game libraries.
Re: Bang & Olufsen's New Xbox Wireless Headphones Cost A Whopping $500
One for the audiophiles I think. For the rest of us great alternatives that are much more affordable.
Not a knock on them though. There is a hardcore market there for them. Great they are offering a product for that crowd.
Re: Following Wreckfest's Free Xbox Series X Patch, It's Now Getting A $10 Upgrade On PS5
Then you have Activision charging for an upgrade to Tony Hawk on both consoles. But Crash upgrade was free.
Its all one big mess and companies almost cherry picking when to charge and where.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 27th)
For me similar to last week tbh
Series X - more Forza Horizon 4. Finally trying out Fortune Island and Lego Champions DLC
PS5 - checking out Tony Hawk upgrade and more Crash 4
Switch - Mario 3D world. Mopping up last stars/stamps to unlock the special world again
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 27th)
@LtSarge Mafia Definitive Edition? Cracking game that. Was so dissapointed with the Mafia 2 remaster and all the glitches nearly put me off going for Mafia 1 but Hangar 13 nailed it.
Re: Biomutant's Latest Trailer Boasts Over The Top Combat And Colourful Visuals
To an extent forgot this game still existed haha. But looks like a riot.
Re: You Can Play The Entire Yakuza Series On Xbox From Today, And Here's Why You Should
Through college, uni and after I have replayed all the games so many times cant recommend this series enough.
Credit goes to the team behind Shenmue for me though. I got into the first game as a substitute for Shenmue after the 2nd game. Not looked back since.
Re: PSA: If You Bought The Disc, You Can't Upgrade Tony Hawk On Xbox Series X
This will get enough backlash if its not a technical issue they will probably reverse it.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Chapter One Conjures Up Its First Gameplay Trailer
Cant wait for this one love the Sherlock games.
Re: Microsoft Reportedly In Talks To Acquire Discord For Over $10 Billion
@mousieone @LtSarge @Medic_Alert I think we can all agree every big tech company wants a stranglehold on their markets these days and it is a general concern. MS is no exception to that. I do think the Bethesda purchase does some good though. They needed to increase their pool of first party studios and got it in one go. Sony do a similar thing but slowly acquiring smaller studios as its more financially viable to do that for them, but both working to the same ends.
My take with Discord specifically though. I dont think its a move to take over the messaging space. Rather, they are in need of a platform that suits the gaming space.
Skype and Teams although large brands are very business-centric and tailored towards the corporate office environment now.
Discord sits away from that and more in the gaming and general entertainment community space.
I think it would be a good and relevant acquisition. I just dont think Discord necessarily need it. I think going public on the stock exchange is better for them the interest from large investors would be immense.
Re: Xbox Survey Asks If Users Would Use Bitcoin As A Payment Method
Personally - I think Bitcoin will either crash or become heavily regulated. Either outcome will destroy its value.
Id stay away from using it for everyday transactions.
Re: Microsoft Explains Why Xbox Live Is Now Being Referred To As 'Xbox Network'
Live Gold will be phased out eventually. MS will be the first of the three to make the move back to free multiplayer.
But they will wait until the last minute timing wise to do it when Game Pass peaks enough they can absorb the capital hit of not having live subscriptions anymore.
I think its close. But there are still a fair few Xbox Gamers subscribed to live and not Game Pass.
The rebrand is just one step towards it.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
@everynowandben sound advice cheers. Love the pirate stuff but co op games not my cup of tea, unfortunately.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
@GunValkyrie thought it may be not a game that could be tackled solo sadly.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
Anyone know what Sea of Thieves is like single player? Curious to check it out but I am very much a solo gamer.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
Ps5 - Crash Ps5 and a spot of GoT. Waiting for Tony Hawk upgrade next week!
XSX - Continuing The Medium and more Forza Horizon 4
Switch - Mario 3D world.
Stacked weekend!
Re: Sadly, Gotham Knights Has Been Delayed Until 2022
Covid still impacting development timelines. To be expected.
Re: Thanks To Smart Delivery, Marvel's Avengers Is A Much Easier Upgrade On Xbox Than PS5
The PS5 upgrade system desperately needs looking at.
That said I dont think its going to have much impact on sales so I cant see them being in any rush.
Re: FPS Boost Brings Prey 'Close To Remaster Territory' On Xbox Series X, Reveals Analysis
@themightyant would love a third Dishonored
Re: FPS Boost Brings Prey 'Close To Remaster Territory' On Xbox Series X, Reveals Analysis
@themightyant wasnt a fan of Infinite as much as first two Bioshocks but love the series. Same with Dishonored just playing through Dishonored 2 at the mo.
Re: FPS Boost Brings Prey 'Close To Remaster Territory' On Xbox Series X, Reveals Analysis
Never played Prey might give it a bash with this update. Any good?
Re: Random: Yes, Phil Spencer Does Stream Xbox Games While Waiting For Planes
Ive got to go there..... who on earth designed Greenbergs facemask? I cant unsee that 🤣
Re: Random: Yes, Phil Spencer Does Stream Xbox Games While Waiting For Planes
@TrueAssassin86x Shu and Phil always have the banter going on and play similar games. Cerny an avid gamer also. Even Ken "always miserable" Kuteragi back in the day gamed on all 3.
I get where you were going with that though. Jim Ryan just doesnt act like he bothers playing what he sells. Lol.
Re: Wreckfest Receives Exclusive 4K, 60FPS Upgrade For Xbox Series X
Hmm downloaded it and not showing under optimised for Series X/S on dashboard. Thought I was going mad then read this about Series S exclusion.
Odd that I am sure its capable of pulling off 4k at 60 fps on a racer.
Re: Xbox Virtual Reality Reference Is A 'Localisation Bug', Says Microsoft
"At this time" famous last words. They will dip in sooner or later even if they partner with a third party.
VR not the most mainstream of markets but there is still profit to be had.