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@Gloki_junior then you need to speak to sky. You are overpaying.

Sky sports and tv is £35 (Netflix included) If you upgrade to sky ultimate for a couple of quid they throw in Disney+ and the new hbo one.

I pay £40 or so and get sky ultimate, sports Netflix, Disney, hbo and some other streaming service that’s coming.

I’ve said it before this year, but currently premium is the better tier so far.

Will this change once stuff like Forza drops? And bigger day 1 games drop? Most probably.

@Millionski I agree, I imagine the box itself will be good. But who is it catering for?

Obviously there’s more chance of us that frequent these sites but outside of that?

@Millionski steamdeck was at 6million sales last year. With estimates that it’s around 8million now. Due to ram issues it’s out of stock.

By all accounts the Rog sold well first month then basically stopped since.

@BacklogBrad those PC players already have access to all those games.

Unless there’s some massive incentive to switch, why would they?

It’s going to be niche. No ifs no buts.

The price takes casuals and families out of the market.

PC gamers most likely have a better set up (or in 18months time they will do when this releases)

Who is it actually going to be marketed at? Series consoles don’t sell at £3-600.

If you have a PC you already have access to everything, series owners? They can just keep those and stream. How much is GP going to be by then.

Now I’m not saying the console will be bad or anything, I think it will be very good. Just don’t understand the market in a time when everyone is squeezed for money and mad Ram prices (obviously Sony has these issues too)

@fatpunkslim I admire your optimism but as usual you are blinkered.

@fatpunkslim seeing as you are so informed.

Do you know said price to know if it’s comparable to a pc, or is this just pure speculation with nothing to back it up?

Considering they aren’t even subsiding their current console and all…

@UnlimitedSevens problem is there a $1500 pcbox isn’t going to be a patch on many PC’s out there. GPU are this price.

Currently around half the Xbox install base (it’s somewhere around 40-50% iirc) owns the series S. That was what £250 on release? Since price rises console sales have tanked.

So what market is the new box for? Because it’s certainly not looking like a big market right now.

But let’s see what they come up with

This is £999+ is my feeling.

If the pro released at what was it £750? (I forget) a prebuilt gaming pc is going to be £1000+

I really hope I’m wrong.

Gone from the most affordable gaming to the most expensive experience?!

@Gemini53 I second days gone. Really wish Sony had greenlit a sequel.

My only criticism of the first one is that it was probably 4-6hours too long. End area dragged a little at times.

Good news. Be interesting to see what level of pc it stacks up to.

But the big thing is obviously the price. - obviously they have come out and said it will be a premium console, so that’s usually meaning a higher price point.

Hope it keeps casuals interested.

@Coletrain either way. It’s still only 2% of the revenue. Any different way of reporting it doesn’t make that number bigger.

@Gemini53 little correction -

Positive Xbox news = true and amazing

Negative Xbox news = false and Xbox tax and XYZ doesn’t like Xbox etc

@abe_hikura they aren’t including live service as far as is reported.

@fatpunkslim

https://x.com/xMBGx/status/2029229387107680285

Yet more proof sales aren’t amazing for Sony on steam.

@Gemini53 it’s the little box that can (majority of the time!)

@Questionable_Duck take away the costs of porting it to pc and its even less in profit.

They have the numbers. If the numbers work they will carry on

@fatpunkslim

Literally 1.96% of revenue.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/110045/sony-has-made-at-least-dollars2-3-billion-selling-first-party-games-on-pc-and-xbox/index.html?iabc=1

@fatpunkslim except the 2% isn’t pulled out of nowhere.

It’s available numbers that are out there.

It is consistently you who makes statements without any back up.

@fatpunkslim sales on PC make up around 2% of Sony sales.

It’s a small number.

Honestly premium is where it’s at again this month.

Personally nothing for me as own both F1 and CP77

@Millionski there’s been more than 1 but they have mainly been indie type.

Honestly this year it’s all about premium so far. It’s had the good releases.

It’s what 5-6years old now? Is it that massive a grab these days?

KCD2 is a bigger more recent one in my eyes

They have to sell on ps5/S2.

It’s the only way to get sales and try to get to those margins MS want.

It’s where we are at now. They’ve seen the numbers that make it worthwhile (otherwise it wouldn’t keep happening)

Most going forward will be day 1. It’s currently just haphazard as it’s been brought in mid development for many games (Forza for instance)

Surprisingly low for Star Wars.

It sold poor and then you are talking 2%-5% uptake on GP.

@Gemini53 hardware most likely will come.

But as it’s reported to be a PC, it’s not going to sell. Ram prices are going to cripple it (as it is doing with Steam currently and no doubt Sony eventually)

Casuals won’t spend it, PC players have a better system. So I really would imagine that there will be more push for the cloud to stream to tvs etc

As I said in the booty article I really hope it’s true. And I hope it’s affordable.

Mentions the Rog, that isn’t an Xbox and by latest estimates isn’t actually now selling very well (outside of the first month)

Doesn’t have hardware available in many countries.

I dunno. I hope what he says is true. But my head also says that the PCbox will be ‘enthusiast’ only due to price. Casuals just aren’t going to pay it.

Cut prices - consoles and GPU predominantly. Some positive press.

Stop the mixed messaging and all the flip flopping

Decide what is Xbox going to be going forward.

Decide what MS actually want from Xbox.

Looks a fun game this so I’m all for them taking time to make sure it’s in good state day 1

More fool the people that believed it true and still believe it to be true. There’s plenty of bridges to be sold

Anyone with half a brain knows it wasn’t. Hell not even half a brain, but it’s what PR want you to do so she says it.

But it doesn’t matter if her gamer score was 0. Just don’t ***** your new community

Progression was really lacking in FH5. My biggest bugbear was that it threw good cars at you immediately.

So 6 keeps saying the right things to me!

Huh funny yesterday people were adamant that Sarah and Phil weren’t pushed.

There will be no pivot away from multiplatform. No matter what dreamland people are in.

The future is software. With AI driving a faster turnaround.

As good as it was when it wasn’t on GP.

It being on GP doesn’t change the game.

That’s definitely a statement of someone who was pushed.

But what else can they say?

It’s a shame to see how Phil slowly vanished. I wasn’t his biggest fan but he deserved better.

Less surprised about Sarah leaving too.

GP has stagnated, console sales have dropped, prices up massively, foray into handheld hasn’t taken that area by storm. Unsurprising there was a desire for change.

“As monetization and AI evolve and influence this future”

This sentence is lovingly hidden in partn3 isn’t it?!

But there’s a lot of things been said by MS before only to change very quickly, so I shall wait and see.

Good luck to Phil.

You could see his presence vanishing over the last year or more.

I don’t know anything about the new lady, but as it’s from AI it doesn’t feel like the best appointment out there.

Sorry for all those losing their jobs to this ridiculous closure.

Sony deserves all the negative attention they will get from this and I hope there is plenty.

@awp69 who woulda thought that the first party studio would work better on the first party console.

Honestly would be more surprising if it was the other way round surely?

Kcd2 is a great addition - premium really feels like the worthwhile tier.

This is why next gen is in the balance (for both companies) what the hell is it going to cost?

Even steamdeck are announcing shortages due to RAM issues.

Really hope this nails it on release.

@OldGamer999 console sales etc say otherwise. It’s clearly a tactic that works for them.

They may not be MS size, but they are big enough to know what makes them the most money. And that is them buying timed exclusives.

@Questionable_Duck they both buy timed exclusives.

Literally this week Xbox has a timed exclusive on starsand island.

Sure you can argue diffences in some of the game sizes. But you can guarantee if MS had Sonys install base they would do the same.

@Llamageddon I wouldn’t try and reason.

Next week they will be selling their Pro and all in on Xbox despite selling their X 3 or 4 times.

The wind changes direction less.

Bound to be some 3rd party stuff. But I’m not so sure there will be many ‘big’ reveals even 3rd party stuff. I have a feeling this one is more going to show updates to known games.

No because it’s not the humour I enjoy.

Either way it will be more expensive for the consumer.