I always like the look of 8bitdo stuff, but I’ve found the quality to be terrible.
Bought 2 of the ones for disabled gamers and both got returned. Both with stick drift out of the box, and the second also had terrible input lag to go along with it!
Cheapest place to play, series S selling well, games coming out.
No sooner had they got a base it’s become-
Most expensive place to play, price rise after price rise, mixed messages, games everywhere. Milking the currents users while not enticing new ones.
It’s becoming a sad state of affairs. I think it’s becoming clear that MS can chase Xbox money in AI ventures instead, and just focus on software and using AI to churn out said software.
@Hern4ndeZzz but that new Xbox is going to be a minimum of $1000 - 1200 (judging by most estimates) do you think those casual Series S users will upgrade to it? Probably not if people are being honest.
When you are trying to argue that the console isn’t their focus and an even more niche lower selling 3rd party product is more a focus - well that’s spin.
Thats a 7:1 ratio to PS over last 12months (4:1 year before) so people are buying consoles.
It’s a shame, it used to be the cheapest way to game. And the pivot is rapidly turning to the most expensive.
So again what is it that’s causing people not to buy Microsoft?
Why take months to even bother responding to this. Makes no sense. (And yes I’m sure they were asked and this was the response) but it just feels like the ship sailed long long ago.
I think this year has just been a ‘perfect storm’ of things against CoD. Normally has a free run of shooters at this time of year. - Except it now has BF6 arc raider HD2 etc
Usually has a serviceable campaign mode - this year it’s been poor by those standards.
It’s gone BO6 to 7.same series and It’s a follow up to a game that had lots of bad received skins etc.
There’s the obvious GPU price rise.
Theres the no Sony big advertising budget - honestly the adverts in the UK were just weird.
But as you say hopefully its made MS realise it needs some big improvements, and while it’s not a game of my personal choice its a shame to see how it’s falling and fast.
@BrownOwl truthfully while you are right to a degree, the upcoming months will see more people drop it due to the fact they will start seeing Microsoft £23/$30 on their bank statements.
That’s when more families etc will realise. MS really need to bring out a yearly pass. The conversion method is just a faff.
@Decimateh I guess it’s more because there’s multiple CoD on Gamepass. And had 10/11months of the year.
And the fact people didn’t cancel till November.
Both can be true. And the fact that BO7 has struggled since release (relatively speaking to other CoD) shows that too. There’s been no big pats on the back X posts to congratulate how it’s sold/played.
There’s more than Dave the diver. There’s FF16, Death Stranding, silent hill. All big games that still did poorly on a shadow drop. Alongside all the other smaller yet well received games doing poor.
My point being that shadow drops may sound cool and all but actually don’t do very well.
It’s getting panned everywhere (apart from a few people who would say it’s amazing if it was stickmen)
Sales are down, players are down not even MS have put out much of a statement (you know the usual #1 in hours/players etc). Of course it will still sell well!
I think they need to do the F1 thing and skip a year. Give the teams some breathing space. Let them see what they can come up with more time.
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Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Star Wars Outlaws On Xbox Game Pass?
I always find these polls weird.
Because it’s the exact same game that’s been out ages? Theres nothing different about the gamepass version?
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Series X|S Owners, How's Your Storage Looking In 2026?
Never needed a card on Series S nor PS5. I just delete things. Absolutely 0 need to have masses of games installed at once.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Xbox Game Pass In 2026?
Dropped to premium at the minute and I’m perfectly happy with what that offers.
Re: 'This Blew Up Way Out Of Proportion' - JDM Dev Insists Forza Comment Was Just A Joke
People really do need to stop being so pathetic.
Re: Bethesda's Fallout Resurgence Is In Full Swing As FO4 Hits Almost 100K Daily Players On Xbox
Id have been more surprised had they not increased considering season 2 of the show was out.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 PS5 Sales Beat Sony's Biggest 2025 Exclusive In Europe, Other Xbox Games Make Top 20
It’s just proof that good games sell.
Ps5 was lacking this type of game and FH is best in class at it.
Re: Rumour: Ninja Theory's 'Project: Mara' Was Just A Concept, Hellblade 3 Could Be Their Next Game
I think it would be a shame for them to focus straight on another hellblade.
Would like to see them try other things.
Re: Xbox's Avowed Gets Permanent Price Drop To Coincide With Upcoming PS5 Release
Year old game. Kinda expected really
Re: Poll: In Order, Which Games Are You Most Excited For At The Xbox Developer Direct?
Fable then FH.
I really hope this time round FH doesn’t throw cars at you, I’d like it to be more rewarding
Re: Another Source Reveals What They Know About The 'Secret' Xbox Developer Direct Game
I imagine fable will follow the other 6-12months delay.
Not that I’d care if it’s day 1 as I’d probably buy on PS, just as I think would perform better on ps5 than the S
Re: Industry Insider Teases 'Secret' Fourth Game For The Xbox Developer Direct Showcase
They aren’t really teasing anything - everyone knows there’s going to be a 4th or 5th anyway!
Really hope there’s a fable release date!
Re: These 11 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass, Including Two Major Additions (January 6-22)
Premium is starting to show its value. Which is good.
Re: 8BitDo Unveils New 'Pro-Level' Xbox Wireless Controller Built For 'Serious Players'
I always like the look of 8bitdo stuff, but I’ve found the quality to be terrible.
Bought 2 of the ones for disabled gamers and both got returned. Both with stick drift out of the box, and the second also had terrible input lag to go along with it!
So I’m avoiding their stuff now.
Re: Xbox Console Sales 'The Worst On Record' In 2025 As Microsoft Shifts Focus (UK)
@fatpunkslim I know you have the spin going on.
Xbox down 39% PS 12% (both UK only) not really a sharp decline.
Approx sales of 270-300k Xbox. Ps5 8-900k. So 3:1 outsold…
And the UK is one of the bigger Xbox markets.
All this without Europe where stocks have basically disappeared in many countries.
Rumours of the US being as much as 70% down.
But yes that possible 100-200k from a 3rd party handheld really makes up for it I guess?
You can spin as much as you like but data shows different
Re: Xbox Console Sales 'The Worst On Record' In 2025 As Microsoft Shifts Focus (UK)
The generation started so positive.
Cheapest place to play, series S selling well, games coming out.
No sooner had they got a base it’s become-
Most expensive place to play, price rise after price rise, mixed messages, games everywhere. Milking the currents users while not enticing new ones.
It’s becoming a sad state of affairs. I think it’s becoming clear that MS can chase Xbox money in AI ventures instead, and just focus on software and using AI to churn out said software.
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@Hern4ndeZzz but that new Xbox is going to be a minimum of $1000 - 1200 (judging by most estimates) do you think those casual Series S users will upgrade to it? Probably not if people are being honest.
Re: Happy New Year!
Happy new year to everyone
Re: 'Nintendo Buying Xbox' Begins Trending After Hoax Goes Viral On Social Media
April fools is a little early this year.
Re: Latest Sales Estimates Suggest Xbox Sold Over Two Million Series X|S Consoles In 2025
When you are trying to argue that the console isn’t their focus and an even more niche lower selling 3rd party product is more a focus - well that’s spin.
Thats a 7:1 ratio to PS over last 12months (4:1 year before) so people are buying consoles.
It’s a shame, it used to be the cheapest way to game. And the pivot is rapidly turning to the most expensive.
So again what is it that’s causing people not to buy Microsoft?
Re: Merry Christmas And Happy Holidays From The Pure Xbox Team!
Merry Christmas everyone
Re: Legendary Game Designer Vince Zampella Has Suddenly Died, Aged 55
Condolences to his family.
R.I.P
Involved in some great games throughout his career.
Re: Microsoft Says It's 'Incorrect' That Xbox Division Is Now Targeting 30% Profit Margins
So 40%?
Why take months to even bother responding to this. Makes no sense. (And yes I’m sure they were asked and this was the response) but it just feels like the ship sailed long long ago.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Verdict On The Final Fantasy 7 Remake Demo For Xbox
@Fiendish-Beaver they expect the 3rd to release on all platforms I believe.
Rebirth will come down the line (at a guess I’d imagine 6-12mth gap)
Re: Ark 2 Isn't Coming To Xbox & Game Pass Until 2028, Eight Years After It Was First Revealed
I bet MS are happy to have this as a console exclusive!
First one has such good ideas but Jesus it’s still a mess years later
Re: 'Xbox Wrapped' Ditched For 2025 Due To Ambitious 2026 Plans, Suggests Report
The budget is that much to do a wrap up?!?! Doesn’t make sense.
I know it’s funny. But man it’s always ‘Next year’
Re: 15 First-Party Games Released On Xbox In 2025, But Which Was Your Favourite?
Doom for me. Although feels like it’s been out longer than it has!
Should have been oblivion but honestly it is buggy af.
Re: Forza Motorsport Won't Get Any Major Updates In 2026, But Support Will Continue
@SuntannedDuck2 man what is give for Sony to redo GT4 or at least the next entry in that style.
It won’t happen but a guy can dream.
Real shame for FM was looking forward to it but it was disappointing on release and I guess numbers never recovered
Re: Bungie's Marathon To Release In March 2026, Pricing And More Details Revealed
I think £25-30 would look better than £35.
I don’t think it will do very well. It will be yet another failed live service by Sony. On the plus side it can’t do as bad as Concord right? Right?
Re: The Much-Hyped Action-RPG 'Phantom Blade Zero' Officially Has One Year Of PS5 Exclusivity
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Re: The Much-Hyped Action-RPG 'Phantom Blade Zero' Officially Has One Year Of PS5 Exclusivity
@Chip-Douglas comment 28 sums it up.
Plus just late last year stalker2, in future Ark2
So yeah it happens. But I like how the Xbox ones don’t matter because they are ‘small’ or whatever. It’s either bad or it isn’t.
Re: The Much-Hyped Action-RPG 'Phantom Blade Zero' Officially Has One Year Of PS5 Exclusivity
@Chip-Douglas so what about the games they’ve done it this year alone?
That’s all ok? But Sony do it and it’s wrong? How does that square in your head?
Re: The Much-Hyped Action-RPG 'Phantom Blade Zero' Officially Has One Year Of PS5 Exclusivity
@Chip-Douglas so how do you feel when MS do it?
It’s obviously something that brings in extra money for whoever does it. Or else it wouldn’t be done.
Re: Black Ops 7 Sales & Players Down Massively On Last Year's Call Of Duty, New Data Shows
@Chip-Douglas
Compared to other games, the money coming in will still dwarf most of them. But potentially it can all be good news for future games
Re: Black Ops 7 Sales & Players Down Massively On Last Year's Call Of Duty, New Data Shows
@GuyinPA75 @Chip-Douglas
I think this year has just been a ‘perfect storm’ of things against CoD. Normally has a free run of shooters at this time of year. - Except it now has BF6 arc raider HD2 etc
Usually has a serviceable campaign mode - this year it’s been poor by those standards.
It’s gone BO6 to 7.same series and It’s a follow up to a game that had lots of bad received skins etc.
There’s the obvious GPU price rise.
Theres the no Sony big advertising budget - honestly the adverts in the UK were just weird.
But as you say hopefully its made MS realise it needs some big improvements, and while it’s not a game of my personal choice its a shame to see how it’s falling and fast.
Re: Black Ops 7 Sales & Players Down Massively On Last Year's Call Of Duty, New Data Shows
For anyone interested and if you have a disk drive (ps5/X)
The physical version is sub £40 in smyths/curry’s in the UK.
Re: Call Of Duty Is The #1 Franchise On Xbox Game Pass For 'Total Players & Hours' In 2025
@BrownOwl truthfully while you are right to a degree, the upcoming months will see more people drop it due to the fact they will start seeing Microsoft £23/$30 on their bank statements.
That’s when more families etc will realise. MS really need to bring out a yearly pass. The conversion method is just a faff.
Re: Call Of Duty Is The #1 Franchise On Xbox Game Pass For 'Total Players & Hours' In 2025
@Decimateh I guess it’s more because there’s multiple CoD on Gamepass. And had 10/11months of the year.
And the fact people didn’t cancel till November.
Both can be true. And the fact that BO7 has struggled since release (relatively speaking to other CoD) shows that too. There’s been no big pats on the back X posts to congratulate how it’s sold/played.
Re: Xbox & Activision Issue Statement On The Future Of Call Of Duty Following Black Ops 7 Backlash
Reads to me that they are going back to previous years. Of BO one year, MW another. Rather than back to back BO.
Game will still come yearly.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Shadow Drop Another Switch 2 Game, And You'll Never Guess What It Is
@betterthings
Sigh.
There’s more than Dave the diver. There’s FF16, Death Stranding, silent hill. All big games that still did poorly on a shadow drop. Alongside all the other smaller yet well received games doing poor.
My point being that shadow drops may sound cool and all but actually don’t do very well.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Shadow Drop Another Switch 2 Game, And You'll Never Guess What It Is
Im surprise MS is sticking to this shadow drop tactic considering it isn’t turning into sales.
https://www.trueachievements.com/news/xbox-shadow-drops-2025
Re: Xbox Dev Reveals That Sony Asked About Microsoft Flight Sim Going To PS5 Years Ago
@GamerScore200K MS get $$$
Re: Xbox Series X|S Had No Black Friday Deals, So They Lost To A Console We've Never Heard Of (US)
@Nic-Noc20th-C very few.
This is Sony pricing their consoles to attract families and casuals (and let’s be honest it’s the prices these consoles should be)
It’s coming upto Xmas little Timmy wants a new console. Mum goes hmmm the £300 PS5 or the £450 or whatever it costs Series X.
Oh gamepass now costs £23a month But PSplus is £100 in Black Friday sale? Hmm ok it’s definitely a ps5.
Re: Xbox Crowns Its Biggest Third-Party Game Pass Launch Of 2025
Fantastic game.
How I wish final fantasy will take inspiration from it going forward.
Re: These 14 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (December 2-11)
Bit of a poor Ultimate offering right there.
I expected a couple of solid months after the big price rise.
Re: Xbox Series X & Series S Receive Small UK Discounts To Kick Off Black Friday 2025
Better than nothing, keeps the S just cheaper than the ps5.
@FraserG anyone at PX heard more on the rumours MS may be doing a price increase again?
Re: Hands On: Perfect Dark Zero Is A Bizarre Time Capsule Of The Early Xbox 360 Days
PD on the n64 was so much fun. 4 player split screen. Find a corridor and put whatever gun it was the made a turret on the wall.
Re: Black Ops 7's Messy Campaign Is Being Detached From 'Endgame' Mode This Week
What awesome response is this?
It’s getting panned everywhere (apart from a few people who would say it’s amazing if it was stickmen)
Sales are down, players are down not even MS have put out much of a statement (you know the usual #1 in hours/players etc). Of course it will still sell well!
I think they need to do the F1 thing and skip a year. Give the teams some breathing space. Let them see what they can come up with more time.
Re: This Xbox Game Studios Adventure Deserved More Nominations At The Game Awards 2025
Soundtrack/art I fully agree.
GoTY, it’s at a sub 80 on metacritic, sub 7 on user scores. It just couldn’t be included there.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Actually Launch On Xbox A Year Today?
If it’s not next Nov/Dec then surely we are at the point where Rockstar will end up delaying for the next box/ps6?
Re: Ubisoft UK Warns That Folks Just Aren't Buying As Many £50-£60 Games Anymore
I’ll pay £60 if a game is finished. Polished.
But you release a buggy mess? No thankyou.
You told me your roadmap that you are doing 2 dlc, - well I’ll wait and play it in one - I don’t have time to come back to every game.