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@eduscxbox don’t don’t market the ps5 to play ps2 games.

Multiple times MS have advertised this as an ‘Xbox’ and will play your Xbox games (and as many have pointed out it’s usually just a handful of their owned games)

It is what it is. But if Sony were marketing the ps5 to play ps2 discs and then it turns out it plays 1 in 10. Then people would complain.

But your comparison Doesn’t work.

@GeeEssEff mate honestly there’s a couple of posters on here that will deflect everything.

If you post anything slightly negative. ‘You hate Xbox’

Some just are hypocrites and not worth the time!

@Dm9982 I can forgive the $500 ally not having an oled.

But a $1000 handheld should have an oled or an 8” screen.

I think the cost is a little much.

I think for a first iteration it’s a solid platform, unless you are a handheld enthusiast it makes sense to wait for a second iteration. - though I’m sure those that buy it will enjoy it.

The screen is the let down. 7”, no Oled. And the fact many can’t play much of their Xbox library isn’t ideal either.

I know it’s not an MS product. (And PX have neglected to cover it)But the release has been messy by Asus. In the UK they didn’t even ship them for release day.

It all depends surely.

If I’m giving MS £12 a month for premium and spending 6hrs a day on a game and buying no add on content then that can’t be great.

But if I’m subbed to premium, buy a £50 game and some DLC/currency but only playing 1hr a day.

Or im using ps5 just to play Fortnite and genshin and not spending anything except 12hrs a day. I can’t see that being better in the slightest.

So yeah in certain which one is better for the platform holder. And it ain’t the one where I’m spending less.

I really do hope it’s affordable for many. It would be a shame for MS to switch to high value consoles/pc/whatever box. After how well they did with the S

Thought we didn’t believe this company?

Considering most other sites don’t listen to them. And people on this site said not to trust them when it was negative towards Xbox.

If they are true that is some good numbers for battlefield

Sounds a solid debut.

But I guess unless you are an enthusiast right now it’s potentially better to wait for a refinement and go for the next one.

Tho I’m sure those that buy it will enjoy it

@Banjo- so if they are keeping the stock for themselves.

Why is it out of stock on their website across a huge chunk of Europe? Surely they would have it available, even if not in huge numbers.

So people can believe it’s ’negative’ against Xbox or however they want to try and believe it in their own head. But real world evidence is Infact showing it to be true.

MS say one thing.

Reality shows something else.

Unless people are going to claim the pictures are fake. Otherwise the stock would be out front and centre.

Having no stock out isn’t in target/walmart best interests as it’s just wasted floor space.

@Tasuki yet you will use a phone/pc/laptop (to name a few) that’s made in some other country with terrible human rights.

Seems weird to take a stance on just one country.

@OldGamer999 you aren’t loyal though.

Last week you sold your X (again)

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/i-tried-call-of-duty-black-ops-7-on-the-xbox-one-and-its-never-been-more-obvious-we-need-to-leave-the-past-behind

To back up that choice, a timely article lol.

@FrenchVaniIIuxe because most of those hardcore Xbox fans also don’t pay for GPU (they use cheap conversion etc) so they aren’t going to spend $1k on a handheld

I can’t believe that anyone would take this seriously considering the handheld numbers that are out there

That’s nice said all the countries that MS doesn’t support with rewards (especially after removing the dlc 10% too)

Has anyone from @PureXbox ever asked MS if they plan on extending the rewards to other countries?

@Banjo- genuinely curious.

If Xbox hardware is such a money maker, why are they letting retail stores drop them? Not keeping supply in certain markets etc.

That goes against everything you are saying.

@Ricky-Spanish as I said on the PS article I don’t believe the rumours.

But when you look at what’s gone on in past 6 weeks or so?

Lay offs, console price rises, sub price rises, retailers dropping Xbox consoles.

Can you blame these rumours for circulating?

Let’s face it if MS were better at communication and not all mixed these rumours wouldn’t be there.

But they are and even people like Jez ‘MS’ Cordon had words like ‘for now’ ‘who knows next quarter’

It’s a shame that a lot of turmoil all comes back to CoD.

@Ricky-Spanish apart from comment 7 eh?

@Ricky-Spanish people aren’t allowed a discussion? Does it hurt you so much that people can discuss it? That MS messaging is terrible? The article is updated and includes the statement.

If the rumours were that GPU was going to increase to $30 a month - would you have believed them? Probably not as most wouldn’t. But guess what it happened.

Most of the games are old

• they are super cheap to buy
• they have pretty much all been on GP
• they are on PS so if you sub to both they become worthless.

So I’d remove both.

Charge $25 for ultimate and include all first party DLC

So ads will be coming to gamepass then.

Said it elsewhere.

But MS first party games should have DLC included in ultimate.

@themightyant

Problem too is that PsPlus has Ubisoft classics too so if you sub to both it becomes useless on Xbox.

And don’t forget £20+ ‘early access’ £20+ dlc.

Ultimate would make more sense if they included all future dlc on MS first party releases.

Be warned that MS can cancel these at any time with very short notice. (And have done in the past iirc)

If you buy them redeem them instantly

It shows how out of touch MS can be with the average gamer.

We don’t want more crap and a more expensive subscription. Everything in the world is expensive and going up, so why would people want to spend more on a subscription? It’s one of the easiest things to cancel or downgrade if you are struggling financially. It’s not a necessity.

I’ve got till December on ultimate then I’ll be downgrading to whatever the £11 tier is. (Depending on what games are on there).

People are cancelling and downgrading - the page to do so yesterday was down and people were having trouble getting through.

Should point out here 28 of those listed are PC only.

So that tempers the value on console.

@Banjo- the ratio has indeed changed.

Just thinking.

Not only is it a huge jump. They will still try and fleece more money by selling it 5 day early access.

If it’s going to $30 I think that first party games should then include any DLC

@ilyn everyone with half a brain knew they removed all the costs. It was only those who defend every decision MS make that believe otherwise.

@Coletrain I agree £2 rise now and then you can stomach it.

But it’s a 50% rise.

And if you want CoD or any day 1 you have to have the highest tier.

Sorry but that price rise is disgusting in one go. £22.99 now. With no yearly discount purchases etc.

And right after they put up console prices and a 1k handheld?

What is going on at Xbox?

To think it used to be the cheapest place to game. That’s gone now.

Obviously people will come and defend it.

@FraserG what is the news of gp price rises?

Seeing on Reddit ultimate is going $20. -$30

£22.99 in UK.

Reported on windows central.

@ButterySmooth30FPS I believed it was around 6million. With the majority being Steamdeck.

I believe the Xbox branding will help push this above things like the legion go/ other Asus products.

@Cikajovazmaj I agree.

It may not be for me, but I think they will become ‘next best’ seller after Steamdeck.

Let’s be realistic.

If MS had wanted to. They could have subsidised it. They have the money to do it etc

But they chose not to for whatever reason. I suspect because they are only going to sell a couple of million so not worth it.

@cburg not really an apple to apple comparison there is it.

It would be like someone trying to say a Pro is better because it’s a lot more powerful than an ally. But that would be silly.

I know it’s tough when people want to criticise your favourites but sometimes criticism is ok.

@BAMozzy but the data is showing that even across more games gamers are spending less hours playing on an Xbox than gamers playing on other platforms. - and however you try to defend it and talk nonsense.

The information (if true and correct) can also show to developers that people are less likely to spend time in their game and potentially micro transactions if it’s included on any sub service.

Only £40 off for refurb? Still bonkers price.

Almost as bad as Sonys new ‘reward’ offer

I thought we don’t trust alienea because they aren’t reliable at all

Some crazy pricing right here.

You got to start fearing for the handheld prices right?

@RiverGenie not sure if you read it but PushSquare review mentions pitch black nights so I’d say it’s going to be very dark!

Frostpunk 2 for me.

Hope it runs good on console

I love my series S worked perfectly fine. No regrets at all in buying one. I paid £180 for it new.

But sorry it’s value has tailed off in 25, the price rises to £300 (albeit with bigger storage) have made it a tougher sell.

But everyone on this site says don’t believe this analytic company.

@Medic_alert it’s funny because when this company praises MS sales, nobody on here questions them.

Honestly it was lousy. Far too long and far too much waffle and filler.