It’s getting panned everywhere (apart from a few people who would say it’s amazing if it was stickmen)
Sales are down, players are down not even MS have put out much of a statement (you know the usual #1 in hours/players etc). Of course it will still sell well!
I think they need to do the F1 thing and skip a year. Give the teams some breathing space. Let them see what they can come up with more time.
@You-come-to-me it’s following the same as every other subscription model out there. Cheap to get you hooked then price increases. Everyone except MS biggest defenders said this.
But in 2years time where is the price going to be? £40/$50 a month? Ontop of potential of a 1k+ machine?
That’s the problem, the S sold really well. So how do you take those with you to a premium console? Or those that bought it as a second console
@fatpunkslim the cancellation isn’t going to come all at once.
People are stacked, parents will only realise over the next few months when the check bank payments etc.
I don’t think enough will cancel to make MS reconsider- hopefully though it gives them warning that it’s getting to a limit of what people can tolerate. Plus the people like me who have dropped to premium are essentially giving them the same monthly fee.
And I can’t see how they could reconsider, they have deals in place with /fortnite so any backtracking would cost them.
For me the bigger shame is the way Xbox is heading that it’s gone from being the cheapest best deal in gaming, to actually well is it?! And then next gen premium console.
I’ve dropped to premium now. I’m just going to sub monthly at the minute. Probably wait until there’s a good few games I want on ultimate then sub that for a month, assuming I can find cheap deals at the time.
And if Sony increases the prices by a similar amount I would drop from extra there.
I mean redfall was full of them. There were videos of ridiculous things. Yet you had many comments here (usual people) who stated they had none. It wasn’t as bad as was shown.
Or starfield that was also full of bugs yet people were looking past it giving it a 10 etc.
Just as some people are more noticeable to 30/60fps.
And then after DF showing that the ps5 version is significantly worse than the series version, it shows that Push were rightly pointing out it isn’t perfect.
Personally I’d rather an honest view that mentions it as If it’s a game I want, I’m going to wait for it to be polished before I buy it.
@themightyant it’s mental that people care more that a site (who is playing it on a different console) can have a different opinion. They seem to care more about one review score than the actual game!
It’s baffling that MS would go from the ‘affordable’ one to being the one that will potentially price casuals out. It’s a strange 180. Especially after the S sold well.
Plus by late 27 GPU could be pushing $50 a month.
It will certainly be interesting however with what they come up with. So that will be good to see.
But it’s potentially PC, PC money yet by the time it releases it will be out of date by PC standards.
@eduscxbox don’t don’t market the ps5 to play ps2 games.
Multiple times MS have advertised this as an ‘Xbox’ and will play your Xbox games (and as many have pointed out it’s usually just a handful of their owned games)
It is what it is. But if Sony were marketing the ps5 to play ps2 discs and then it turns out it plays 1 in 10. Then people would complain.
I think for a first iteration it’s a solid platform, unless you are a handheld enthusiast it makes sense to wait for a second iteration. - though I’m sure those that buy it will enjoy it.
The screen is the let down. 7”, no Oled. And the fact many can’t play much of their Xbox library isn’t ideal either.
I know it’s not an MS product. (And PX have neglected to cover it)But the release has been messy by Asus. In the UK they didn’t even ship them for release day.
I really do hope it’s affordable for many. It would be a shame for MS to switch to high value consoles/pc/whatever box. After how well they did with the S
@Banjo- so if they are keeping the stock for themselves.
Why is it out of stock on their website across a huge chunk of Europe? Surely they would have it available, even if not in huge numbers.
So people can believe it’s ’negative’ against Xbox or however they want to try and believe it in their own head. But real world evidence is Infact showing it to be true.
@FrenchVaniIIuxe because most of those hardcore Xbox fans also don’t pay for GPU (they use cheap conversion etc) so they aren’t going to spend $1k on a handheld
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Re: Xbox Crowns Its Biggest Third-Party Game Pass Launch Of 2025
Fantastic game.
How I wish final fantasy will take inspiration from it going forward.
Re: These 14 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (December 2-11)
Bit of a poor Ultimate offering right there.
I expected a couple of solid months after the big price rise.
Re: Xbox Series X & Series S Receive Small UK Discounts To Kick Off Black Friday 2025
Better than nothing, keeps the S just cheaper than the ps5.
@FraserG anyone at PX heard more on the rumours MS may be doing a price increase again?
Re: Hands On: Perfect Dark Zero Is A Bizarre Time Capsule Of The Early Xbox 360 Days
PD on the n64 was so much fun. 4 player split screen. Find a corridor and put whatever gun it was the made a turret on the wall.
Re: Black Ops 7's Messy Campaign Is Being Detached From 'Endgame' Mode This Week
What awesome response is this?
It’s getting panned everywhere (apart from a few people who would say it’s amazing if it was stickmen)
Sales are down, players are down not even MS have put out much of a statement (you know the usual #1 in hours/players etc). Of course it will still sell well!
I think they need to do the F1 thing and skip a year. Give the teams some breathing space. Let them see what they can come up with more time.
Re: This Xbox Game Studios Adventure Deserved More Nominations At The Game Awards 2025
Soundtrack/art I fully agree.
GoTY, it’s at a sub 80 on metacritic, sub 7 on user scores. It just couldn’t be included there.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Actually Launch On Xbox A Year Today?
If it’s not next Nov/Dec then surely we are at the point where Rockstar will end up delaying for the next box/ps6?
Re: Ubisoft UK Warns That Folks Just Aren't Buying As Many £50-£60 Games Anymore
I’ll pay £60 if a game is finished. Polished.
But you release a buggy mess? No thankyou.
You told me your roadmap that you are doing 2 dlc, - well I’ll wait and play it in one - I don’t have time to come back to every game.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
This is the year the CoD has some big competition for gamers time.
Battlefield, arc raiders, the usual Fortnite type ones and even HD2 to name a few.
Not that it will sell bad, but they are going to have to get ontop of everything this year I feel.
Re: A Month Later, The ROG Xbox Ally X Has Totally Changed My Gaming Habits
@themightyant think you say it all there.
I agree for a first iteration it seems solid enough and a platform to build on for an ‘ally 2’
Re: Steam Machine Specs Revealed, Here's How They Compare To Xbox Series X|S
As always it’s going to come down to the price.
Re: Valve Announces New Hardware, Including A Steam Machine That'll Compete With Xbox
@themightyant for me period be using this looking backwards.
I miss a lot of the older strategy games that will run fine on the hardware.
If it’s around £500-600 I’m interested.
Re: Valve Announces New Hardware, Including A Steam Machine That'll Compete With Xbox
Have to admit I’m interested in seeing the price.
There is a lot of older pc games I’ve missed out on Over the years I’d be interested in
Re: Poll: Now That The Dust Has Settled, Which Xbox Game Pass Tier Are You Subscribed To?
@You-come-to-me it’s following the same as every other subscription model out there. Cheap to get you hooked then price increases. Everyone except MS biggest defenders said this.
But in 2years time where is the price going to be? £40/$50 a month? Ontop of potential of a 1k+ machine?
That’s the problem, the S sold really well. So how do you take those with you to a premium console? Or those that bought it as a second console
Re: Poll: Now That The Dust Has Settled, Which Xbox Game Pass Tier Are You Subscribed To?
@fatpunkslim the cancellation isn’t going to come all at once.
People are stacked, parents will only realise over the next few months when the check bank payments etc.
I don’t think enough will cancel to make MS reconsider- hopefully though it gives them warning that it’s getting to a limit of what people can tolerate. Plus the people like me who have dropped to premium are essentially giving them the same monthly fee.
And I can’t see how they could reconsider, they have deals in place with /fortnite so any backtracking would cost them.
For me the bigger shame is the way Xbox is heading that it’s gone from being the cheapest best deal in gaming, to actually well is it?! And then next gen premium console.
Re: Poll: Now That The Dust Has Settled, Which Xbox Game Pass Tier Are You Subscribed To?
I’ve dropped to premium now. I’m just going to sub monthly at the minute. Probably wait until there’s a good few games I want on ultimate then sub that for a month, assuming I can find cheap deals at the time.
And if Sony increases the prices by a similar amount I would drop from extra there.
I’ve also dropped Netflix to the ad version.
Re: ARC Raiders Hits Incredible Player & Sales Numbers Across All Platforms, Including Xbox
With BF6, this, (and all the usual ones) it looks like CoD has competition for people’s time this year.
Not that it will sell bad, but I think it will be harder to keep the engagement potentially
Re: Five Years On, Xbox Series S Is Still A Fantastic Place For Current-Gen Gaming
I got mine for £180 worth every penny.
At £290-£350 (depending on storage) I don’t think it would be as worth it.
Re: Football Manager 26 Release Times Revealed Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Launch
@Techno92LFC have you seen the videos?
Console version is pretty much unplayable. Match engine is pretty much single figure fps and that was on the X.
SI have seriously messed up this release.
Re: Black Ops 7 Preload And Release Times Revealed, Along With ROG Xbox Ally Details
Can I just say the adverts they are running in the UK for CoD are absolutely ridiculous.
Re: Huge Xbox Report Details 'Ambitious' Next-Gen Console With Free Online Play
Interesting to see.
But the devil as always will be the price. Because let’s be truthful this is pricing out many families (unless MS seriously subsidises it).
Online may go free but I doubt there will be a PC gp and GPU. And how much will that be in 2years? $50?
But let’s see what they come up with.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Halo: Campaign Evolved Launching Day One On PS5?
@OldGamer999
But you sold your X
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Fiendish-Beaver
Everyone has different tolerances for bugs.
I mean redfall was full of them. There were videos of ridiculous things. Yet you had many comments here (usual people) who stated they had none. It wasn’t as bad as was shown.
Or starfield that was also full of bugs yet people were looking past it giving it a 10 etc.
Just as some people are more noticeable to 30/60fps.
And then after DF showing that the ps5 version is significantly worse than the series version, it shows that Push were rightly pointing out it isn’t perfect.
Personally I’d rather an honest view that mentions it as If it’s a game I want, I’m going to wait for it to be polished before I buy it.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Verdict On The Outer Worlds 2, With Xbox The Clear Console Winner
Huh and people were complaining when a review on ps5 scored it less.
Who knew that when it has more issues it will score less!
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Fiendish-Beaver if you were to check metacritic the Xbox version is rated at 85 and the ps5 version lower at 81 with lower reviews and a couple of 7s
Perhaps it’s just a case of (as often happens) performance differences across the consoles. Or simply a difference in reviewer opinions.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@themightyant it’s mental that people care more that a site (who is playing it on a different console) can have a different opinion. They seem to care more about one review score than the actual game!
But good to see another solid release.
Re: Report: Xbox Has Been Asking Its Studios To Hit 'Higher Profit Margins' Since 2023
@OldGamer999 if GoY was done on a £60m budget as rumoured (same as first)
Depending on marketing- which Sony always do a lot of I’d imagine it will have a decent profit margin due to cheap development.
But as the report states on average the margin is 17-22
Re: Sarah Bond: Our Next-Gen Console Will Be 'Very Premium' & Informed By ROG Xbox Ally
@Banjo- is all that confirmed for the next Xbox?
Re: Sarah Bond: Our Next-Gen Console Will Be 'Very Premium' & Informed By ROG Xbox Ally
As I said elsewhere.
It’s baffling that MS would go from the ‘affordable’ one to being the one that will potentially price casuals out. It’s a strange 180. Especially after the S sold well.
Plus by late 27 GPU could be pushing $50 a month.
It will certainly be interesting however with what they come up with. So that will be good to see.
But it’s potentially PC, PC money yet by the time it releases it will be out of date by PC standards.
Re: Microsoft Is Reportedly Increasing The Cost Of Xbox Dev Kits In Latest Price Hike
Flip flop flip flop. In out.
Look I get that £500 isn’t much for devs in the long run. But it’s just yet another negative headline.
Ontop of price rises to console, GP, saying next device is going to be premium.
It wasn’t that long ago MS was the home of ‘cheap’ gaming. Yet it’s now doing a 180 and looking like it’s going to price out those more casual
Re: Review: Ninja Gaiden 4 (Xbox) - Platinum Propels The Series Forward On Xbox Game Pass
@cornholio005 lol so does that mean PX give higher scores for money too?
Considering same owners?
Glad the game is good however. Will give it a try but with tremors I unfortunately suck at stuff like this
Re: Microsoft Passes The Buck To Asus For ROG Xbox Ally's Price Tag
@eduscxbox don’t don’t market the ps5 to play ps2 games.
Multiple times MS have advertised this as an ‘Xbox’ and will play your Xbox games (and as many have pointed out it’s usually just a handful of their owned games)
It is what it is. But if Sony were marketing the ps5 to play ps2 discs and then it turns out it plays 1 in 10. Then people would complain.
But your comparison Doesn’t work.
Re: Microsoft Passes The Buck To Asus For ROG Xbox Ally's Price Tag
@GeeEssEff mate honestly there’s a couple of posters on here that will deflect everything.
If you post anything slightly negative. ‘You hate Xbox’
Some just are hypocrites and not worth the time!
Re: Poll: Are You More Interested In The ROG Xbox Ally Now That Reviews Are Out?
@Dm9982 I can forgive the $500 ally not having an oled.
But a $1000 handheld should have an oled or an 8” screen.
Re: Poll: Are You More Interested In The ROG Xbox Ally Now That Reviews Are Out?
I think the cost is a little much.
I think for a first iteration it’s a solid platform, unless you are a handheld enthusiast it makes sense to wait for a second iteration. - though I’m sure those that buy it will enjoy it.
The screen is the let down. 7”, no Oled. And the fact many can’t play much of their Xbox library isn’t ideal either.
I know it’s not an MS product. (And PX have neglected to cover it)But the release has been messy by Asus. In the UK they didn’t even ship them for release day.
Re: Xbox Says It 'Defines Success' By How Much Time Players Spend On The Platform
It all depends surely.
If I’m giving MS £12 a month for premium and spending 6hrs a day on a game and buying no add on content then that can’t be great.
But if I’m subbed to premium, buy a £50 game and some DLC/currency but only playing 1hr a day.
Or im using ps5 just to play Fortnite and genshin and not spending anything except 12hrs a day. I can’t see that being better in the slightest.
So yeah in certain which one is better for the platform holder. And it ain’t the one where I’m spending less.
Re: Sarah Bond Shows Off Where Microsoft Is 'Prototyping For The Next Generation Of Xbox'
I really do hope it’s affordable for many. It would be a shame for MS to switch to high value consoles/pc/whatever box. After how well they did with the S
Re: Report: Battlefield 6 Sells Over 6 Million Copies, And A Good Chunk Of Those Are On Xbox
Thought we didn’t believe this company?
Considering most other sites don’t listen to them. And people on this site said not to trust them when it was negative towards Xbox.
If they are true that is some good numbers for battlefield
Re: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About The ROG Xbox Ally
Sounds a solid debut.
But I guess unless you are an enthusiast right now it’s potentially better to wait for a refinement and go for the next one.
Tho I’m sure those that buy it will enjoy it
Re: Microsoft Issues Statement Denying Target & Walmart Are Pulling Xbox Products
@Banjo- so if they are keeping the stock for themselves.
Why is it out of stock on their website across a huge chunk of Europe? Surely they would have it available, even if not in huge numbers.
So people can believe it’s ’negative’ against Xbox or however they want to try and believe it in their own head. But real world evidence is Infact showing it to be true.
Re: Microsoft Issues Statement Denying Target & Walmart Are Pulling Xbox Products
MS say one thing.
Reality shows something else.
Unless people are going to claim the pictures are fake. Otherwise the stock would be out front and centre.
Having no stock out isn’t in target/walmart best interests as it’s just wasted floor space.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Battlefield 6
@Tasuki yet you will use a phone/pc/laptop (to name a few) that’s made in some other country with terrible human rights.
Seems weird to take a stance on just one country.
Re: AMD's Partnership On PS6 Will Benefit 'Every Gaming Platform', Says General Manager
@OldGamer999 you aren’t loyal though.
Last week you sold your X (again)
Re: Battlefield 6 Dev Explains Why It Isn't Following Black Ops 7 With Xbox One Version
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/i-tried-call-of-duty-black-ops-7-on-the-xbox-one-and-its-never-been-more-obvious-we-need-to-leave-the-past-behind
To back up that choice, a timely article lol.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@FrenchVaniIIuxe because most of those hardcore Xbox fans also don’t pay for GPU (they use cheap conversion etc) so they aren’t going to spend $1k on a handheld
Re: Xbox Journalist Disputes Rumour About AMD Requiring 10M Units For First-Party Handheld
I can’t believe that anyone would take this seriously considering the handheld numbers that are out there
Re: Xbox Rewards Adds More Weekly Point Buffs For Game Pass Ultimate Members
That’s nice said all the countries that MS doesn’t support with rewards (especially after removing the dlc 10% too)
Has anyone from @PureXbox ever asked MS if they plan on extending the rewards to other countries?
Re: Xbox Issues Statement Denying Rumour That Next-Gen Console Could Be Cancelled
@Banjo- genuinely curious.
If Xbox hardware is such a money maker, why are they letting retail stores drop them? Not keeping supply in certain markets etc.
That goes against everything you are saying.
Re: Xbox Issues Statement Denying Rumour That Next-Gen Console Could Be Cancelled
@Ricky-Spanish as I said on the PS article I don’t believe the rumours.
But when you look at what’s gone on in past 6 weeks or so?
Lay offs, console price rises, sub price rises, retailers dropping Xbox consoles.
Can you blame these rumours for circulating?
Let’s face it if MS were better at communication and not all mixed these rumours wouldn’t be there.
But they are and even people like Jez ‘MS’ Cordon had words like ‘for now’ ‘who knows next quarter’
Re: New COD Sales 'Estimate' Helps Explain Xbox's Price Hike For Day One Game Pass Releases
It’s a shame that a lot of turmoil all comes back to CoD.