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Doom for me. Although feels like it’s been out longer than it has!

Should have been oblivion but honestly it is buggy af.

@SuntannedDuck2 man what is give for Sony to redo GT4 or at least the next entry in that style.

It won’t happen but a guy can dream.

Real shame for FM was looking forward to it but it was disappointing on release and I guess numbers never recovered

I think £25-30 would look better than £35.

I don’t think it will do very well. It will be yet another failed live service by Sony. On the plus side it can’t do as bad as Concord right? Right?

@Chip-Douglas comment 28 sums it up.

Plus just late last year stalker2, in future Ark2

So yeah it happens. But I like how the Xbox ones don’t matter because they are ‘small’ or whatever. It’s either bad or it isn’t.

@Chip-Douglas so what about the games they’ve done it this year alone?

That’s all ok? But Sony do it and it’s wrong? How does that square in your head?

@Chip-Douglas so how do you feel when MS do it?

It’s obviously something that brings in extra money for whoever does it. Or else it wouldn’t be done.

@Chip-Douglas

Compared to other games, the money coming in will still dwarf most of them. But potentially it can all be good news for future games

@GuyinPA75 @Chip-Douglas

I think this year has just been a ‘perfect storm’ of things against CoD. Normally has a free run of shooters at this time of year. - Except it now has BF6 arc raider HD2 etc

Usually has a serviceable campaign mode - this year it’s been poor by those standards.

It’s gone BO6 to 7.same series and It’s a follow up to a game that had lots of bad received skins etc.

There’s the obvious GPU price rise.

Theres the no Sony big advertising budget - honestly the adverts in the UK were just weird.

But as you say hopefully its made MS realise it needs some big improvements, and while it’s not a game of my personal choice its a shame to see how it’s falling and fast.

For anyone interested and if you have a disk drive (ps5/X)

The physical version is sub £40 in smyths/curry’s in the UK.

@BrownOwl truthfully while you are right to a degree, the upcoming months will see more people drop it due to the fact they will start seeing Microsoft £23/$30 on their bank statements.

That’s when more families etc will realise. MS really need to bring out a yearly pass. The conversion method is just a faff.

@Decimateh I guess it’s more because there’s multiple CoD on Gamepass. And had 10/11months of the year.

And the fact people didn’t cancel till November.

Both can be true. And the fact that BO7 has struggled since release (relatively speaking to other CoD) shows that too. There’s been no big pats on the back X posts to congratulate how it’s sold/played.

Reads to me that they are going back to previous years. Of BO one year, MW another. Rather than back to back BO.

Game will still come yearly.

@betterthings

Sigh.

There’s more than Dave the diver. There’s FF16, Death Stranding, silent hill. All big games that still did poorly on a shadow drop. Alongside all the other smaller yet well received games doing poor.

My point being that shadow drops may sound cool and all but actually don’t do very well.

Im surprise MS is sticking to this shadow drop tactic considering it isn’t turning into sales.

https://www.trueachievements.com/news/xbox-shadow-drops-2025

@GamerScore200K MS get $$$

@Nic-Noc20th-C very few.

This is Sony pricing their consoles to attract families and casuals (and let’s be honest it’s the prices these consoles should be)

It’s coming upto Xmas little Timmy wants a new console. Mum goes hmmm the £300 PS5 or the £450 or whatever it costs Series X.

Oh gamepass now costs £23a month But PSplus is £100 in Black Friday sale? Hmm ok it’s definitely a ps5.

Fantastic game.

How I wish final fantasy will take inspiration from it going forward.

Bit of a poor Ultimate offering right there.

I expected a couple of solid months after the big price rise.

Better than nothing, keeps the S just cheaper than the ps5.

@FraserG anyone at PX heard more on the rumours MS may be doing a price increase again?

PD on the n64 was so much fun. 4 player split screen. Find a corridor and put whatever gun it was the made a turret on the wall.

What awesome response is this?

It’s getting panned everywhere (apart from a few people who would say it’s amazing if it was stickmen)

Sales are down, players are down not even MS have put out much of a statement (you know the usual #1 in hours/players etc). Of course it will still sell well!

I think they need to do the F1 thing and skip a year. Give the teams some breathing space. Let them see what they can come up with more time.

Soundtrack/art I fully agree.

GoTY, it’s at a sub 80 on metacritic, sub 7 on user scores. It just couldn’t be included there.

If it’s not next Nov/Dec then surely we are at the point where Rockstar will end up delaying for the next box/ps6?

I’ll pay £60 if a game is finished. Polished.

But you release a buggy mess? No thankyou.

You told me your roadmap that you are doing 2 dlc, - well I’ll wait and play it in one - I don’t have time to come back to every game.

This is the year the CoD has some big competition for gamers time.

Battlefield, arc raiders, the usual Fortnite type ones and even HD2 to name a few.

Not that it will sell bad, but they are going to have to get ontop of everything this year I feel.

@themightyant think you say it all there.

I agree for a first iteration it seems solid enough and a platform to build on for an ‘ally 2’

As always it’s going to come down to the price.

@themightyant for me period be using this looking backwards.

I miss a lot of the older strategy games that will run fine on the hardware.

If it’s around £500-600 I’m interested.

Have to admit I’m interested in seeing the price.

There is a lot of older pc games I’ve missed out on Over the years I’d be interested in

@You-come-to-me it’s following the same as every other subscription model out there. Cheap to get you hooked then price increases. Everyone except MS biggest defenders said this.

But in 2years time where is the price going to be? £40/$50 a month? Ontop of potential of a 1k+ machine?

That’s the problem, the S sold really well. So how do you take those with you to a premium console? Or those that bought it as a second console

@fatpunkslim the cancellation isn’t going to come all at once.

People are stacked, parents will only realise over the next few months when the check bank payments etc.

I don’t think enough will cancel to make MS reconsider- hopefully though it gives them warning that it’s getting to a limit of what people can tolerate. Plus the people like me who have dropped to premium are essentially giving them the same monthly fee.

And I can’t see how they could reconsider, they have deals in place with /fortnite so any backtracking would cost them.

For me the bigger shame is the way Xbox is heading that it’s gone from being the cheapest best deal in gaming, to actually well is it?! And then next gen premium console.

I’ve dropped to premium now. I’m just going to sub monthly at the minute. Probably wait until there’s a good few games I want on ultimate then sub that for a month, assuming I can find cheap deals at the time.

And if Sony increases the prices by a similar amount I would drop from extra there.

I’ve also dropped Netflix to the ad version.

With BF6, this, (and all the usual ones) it looks like CoD has competition for people’s time this year.

Not that it will sell bad, but I think it will be harder to keep the engagement potentially

I got mine for £180 worth every penny.

At £290-£350 (depending on storage) I don’t think it would be as worth it.

@Techno92LFC have you seen the videos?

Console version is pretty much unplayable. Match engine is pretty much single figure fps and that was on the X.

SI have seriously messed up this release.

Can I just say the adverts they are running in the UK for CoD are absolutely ridiculous.

Interesting to see.

But the devil as always will be the price. Because let’s be truthful this is pricing out many families (unless MS seriously subsidises it).

Online may go free but I doubt there will be a PC gp and GPU. And how much will that be in 2years? $50?

But let’s see what they come up with.

@OldGamer999

But you sold your X

@Fiendish-Beaver

Everyone has different tolerances for bugs.

I mean redfall was full of them. There were videos of ridiculous things. Yet you had many comments here (usual people) who stated they had none. It wasn’t as bad as was shown.

Or starfield that was also full of bugs yet people were looking past it giving it a 10 etc.

Just as some people are more noticeable to 30/60fps.

And then after DF showing that the ps5 version is significantly worse than the series version, it shows that Push were rightly pointing out it isn’t perfect.

Personally I’d rather an honest view that mentions it as If it’s a game I want, I’m going to wait for it to be polished before I buy it.

Huh and people were complaining when a review on ps5 scored it less.

Who knew that when it has more issues it will score less!

@Fiendish-Beaver if you were to check metacritic the Xbox version is rated at 85 and the ps5 version lower at 81 with lower reviews and a couple of 7s

Perhaps it’s just a case of (as often happens) performance differences across the consoles. Or simply a difference in reviewer opinions.

@themightyant it’s mental that people care more that a site (who is playing it on a different console) can have a different opinion. They seem to care more about one review score than the actual game!

But good to see another solid release.

@OldGamer999 if GoY was done on a £60m budget as rumoured (same as first)

Depending on marketing- which Sony always do a lot of I’d imagine it will have a decent profit margin due to cheap development.

But as the report states on average the margin is 17-22

@Banjo- is all that confirmed for the next Xbox?

As I said elsewhere.

It’s baffling that MS would go from the ‘affordable’ one to being the one that will potentially price casuals out. It’s a strange 180. Especially after the S sold well.

Plus by late 27 GPU could be pushing $50 a month.

It will certainly be interesting however with what they come up with. So that will be good to see.

But it’s potentially PC, PC money yet by the time it releases it will be out of date by PC standards.

Flip flop flip flop. In out.

Look I get that £500 isn’t much for devs in the long run. But it’s just yet another negative headline.

Ontop of price rises to console, GP, saying next device is going to be premium.

It wasn’t that long ago MS was the home of ‘cheap’ gaming. Yet it’s now doing a 180 and looking like it’s going to price out those more casual

@cornholio005 lol so does that mean PX give higher scores for money too?

Considering same owners?

Glad the game is good however. Will give it a try but with tremors I unfortunately suck at stuff like this

@eduscxbox don’t don’t market the ps5 to play ps2 games.

Multiple times MS have advertised this as an ‘Xbox’ and will play your Xbox games (and as many have pointed out it’s usually just a handful of their owned games)

It is what it is. But if Sony were marketing the ps5 to play ps2 discs and then it turns out it plays 1 in 10. Then people would complain.

But your comparison Doesn’t work.

@GeeEssEff mate honestly there’s a couple of posters on here that will deflect everything.

If you post anything slightly negative. ‘You hate Xbox’

Some just are hypocrites and not worth the time!