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Same as it was before it came on GP. As far as I know there’s nothing different since it’s been added right?

It’s fun and enjoyable.

This is just the data on what we already know. There’s been what 3 games in last week or so cancelled/not getting an Xbox version.

It’s a reality most knew and predicted.

@FraserG I believe the Ren & Stimpy game is also absent from Xbox. Limited run games again. - could potentially be more that they have data that the ports aren’t worth it financially for them?

@fatpunkslim I literally looked why do you think I asked?

No where not one single site says it has sold more on Xbox than ps.

I’d say you need to do your research. I’m not the one making up wild sweeping claims.

@fatpunkslim helldivers 2 sold more on Xbox since when?

@fatpunkslim every game sells better on pc and Xbox?

Said it elsewhere assuming it releases in a good technical state (I imagine it will) I’ll highly likely buy on ps5, want to play it at its best and I only have an S

There’s gears, clockwork, SoD3 so enough to do another one. Without stuff like halo.

Would have been interesting to see the sales figures of the add on disk drive with the breakdown (obviously can’t for Xbox)

@themightyant don’t forget the 50% GPU price increase - just to access your DLC.

And by the time the second DLC actually arrives it could well be even higher than £23/$30 a month.

There was 2 strong games. A what looks like a 7/10 and then the multiplayer that I fear is doomed already because who is the target for that? Besides people trying it on GP for 30mins.

Thankfully the 2 big guns both look really good

Where is Phil these days? Hasn’t said anything around the dev diary and he usually does.

I think games that started development (or were early in development) at the decision to go multiplatform from the original 4, will start to release day and date.

FH6 would have been day and date on ps5 but it was further in development. Hence now only a 6 month delay and not a year aka avowed etc.

2 of the 3 announced yesterday were day and date.

I really really hope this is true and implemented properly.

It was my biggest gripe about fh5.

Glad to see they have been listening to some criticisms.

@Toot1st and £20/$20 more than usual.

That’s what people are questioning. - (we know they do this early access upgrade)

50% increase, ontop of a 50% increase to GPU.

And wanting to charge £80 for games.

Where is it ending?

£60 upgrade and £23 a month to play it.

I don’t understand this huge U turn by Xbox to go from the cheapest way to game to the most expensive.

They wanted to charge £80 for Outer worlds 2 ( or whatever game it was) and had to back track but feels like they are testing the water of a price increase on a more popular game.

It genuinely feels like MS want to do away with the ultimate tier and day one promises.

The upgrade price is mental.

Are MS trying to force people to not sub to GP ultimate? Lots of stuff comes to premium and ultimate just seems to get more expensive with all the upgrades etc etc.

@fraserG any word from MS on why they are charging more?

Looked really good. Really hope it nails on release.

Will probably play this on ps5 as I think it will be better than on the S

8/10.

10/10 for fable and FH

But the multiplayer one I had no interest in.

Curious to see how the gamefreak one actually releases.

I enjoy the format, it works well, even for games I’m not as interested in.

@Questionable_Duck it was more tongue in cheek than anything serious.

The fact that they say all and then except - just pointless to add that line in the review.

It’s like ps5 has all the Forza Horizon games except 1,2,3,4. Or Xbox has all the GT games except.

That XboxEra review. lol.

Can play all the FF games right now …. Except…

That aside it’s a good game I hope those who haven’t played it enjoy it.

I always find these polls weird.

Because it’s the exact same game that’s been out ages? Theres nothing different about the gamepass version?

Never needed a card on Series S nor PS5. I just delete things. Absolutely 0 need to have masses of games installed at once.

Dropped to premium at the minute and I’m perfectly happy with what that offers.

People really do need to stop being so pathetic.

Id have been more surprised had they not increased considering season 2 of the show was out.

It’s just proof that good games sell.

Ps5 was lacking this type of game and FH is best in class at it.

I think it would be a shame for them to focus straight on another hellblade.

Would like to see them try other things.

Year old game. Kinda expected really

Fable then FH.

I really hope this time round FH doesn’t throw cars at you, I’d like it to be more rewarding

I imagine fable will follow the other 6-12months delay.

Not that I’d care if it’s day 1 as I’d probably buy on PS, just as I think would perform better on ps5 than the S

They aren’t really teasing anything - everyone knows there’s going to be a 4th or 5th anyway!

Really hope there’s a fable release date!

Premium is starting to show its value. Which is good.

I always like the look of 8bitdo stuff, but I’ve found the quality to be terrible.

Bought 2 of the ones for disabled gamers and both got returned. Both with stick drift out of the box, and the second also had terrible input lag to go along with it!

So I’m avoiding their stuff now.

@fatpunkslim I know you have the spin going on.

Xbox down 39% PS 12% (both UK only) not really a sharp decline.

Approx sales of 270-300k Xbox. Ps5 8-900k. So 3:1 outsold…

And the UK is one of the bigger Xbox markets.

All this without Europe where stocks have basically disappeared in many countries.

Rumours of the US being as much as 70% down.

But yes that possible 100-200k from a 3rd party handheld really makes up for it I guess?

You can spin as much as you like but data shows different

The generation started so positive.

Cheapest place to play, series S selling well, games coming out.

No sooner had they got a base it’s become-

Most expensive place to play, price rise after price rise, mixed messages, games everywhere. Milking the currents users while not enticing new ones.

It’s becoming a sad state of affairs. I think it’s becoming clear that MS can chase Xbox money in AI ventures instead, and just focus on software and using AI to churn out said software.

@Hern4ndeZzz but that new Xbox is going to be a minimum of $1000 - 1200 (judging by most estimates) do you think those casual Series S users will upgrade to it? Probably not if people are being honest.

Happy new year to everyone

April fools is a little early this year.

When you are trying to argue that the console isn’t their focus and an even more niche lower selling 3rd party product is more a focus - well that’s spin.

Thats a 7:1 ratio to PS over last 12months (4:1 year before) so people are buying consoles.

It’s a shame, it used to be the cheapest way to game. And the pivot is rapidly turning to the most expensive.

So again what is it that’s causing people not to buy Microsoft?

Merry Christmas everyone

Condolences to his family.

R.I.P

Involved in some great games throughout his career.

So 40%?

Why take months to even bother responding to this. Makes no sense. (And yes I’m sure they were asked and this was the response) but it just feels like the ship sailed long long ago.

@Fiendish-Beaver they expect the 3rd to release on all platforms I believe.

Rebirth will come down the line (at a guess I’d imagine 6-12mth gap)

I bet MS are happy to have this as a console exclusive!

First one has such good ideas but Jesus it’s still a mess years later

The budget is that much to do a wrap up?!?! Doesn’t make sense.

I know it’s funny. But man it’s always ‘Next year’

Doom for me. Although feels like it’s been out longer than it has!

Should have been oblivion but honestly it is buggy af.

@SuntannedDuck2 man what is give for Sony to redo GT4 or at least the next entry in that style.

It won’t happen but a guy can dream.

Real shame for FM was looking forward to it but it was disappointing on release and I guess numbers never recovered

I think £25-30 would look better than £35.

I don’t think it will do very well. It will be yet another failed live service by Sony. On the plus side it can’t do as bad as Concord right? Right?