Fable then FH.

I really hope this time round FH doesn’t throw cars at you, I’d like it to be more rewarding

I imagine fable will follow the other 6-12months delay.

Not that I’d care if it’s day 1 as I’d probably buy on PS, just as I think would perform better on ps5 than the S

They aren’t really teasing anything - everyone knows there’s going to be a 4th or 5th anyway!

Really hope there’s a fable release date!

Premium is starting to show its value. Which is good.

I always like the look of 8bitdo stuff, but I’ve found the quality to be terrible.

Bought 2 of the ones for disabled gamers and both got returned. Both with stick drift out of the box, and the second also had terrible input lag to go along with it!

So I’m avoiding their stuff now.

@fatpunkslim I know you have the spin going on.

Xbox down 39% PS 12% (both UK only) not really a sharp decline.

Approx sales of 270-300k Xbox. Ps5 8-900k. So 3:1 outsold…

And the UK is one of the bigger Xbox markets.

All this without Europe where stocks have basically disappeared in many countries.

Rumours of the US being as much as 70% down.

But yes that possible 100-200k from a 3rd party handheld really makes up for it I guess?

You can spin as much as you like but data shows different

The generation started so positive.

Cheapest place to play, series S selling well, games coming out.

No sooner had they got a base it’s become-

Most expensive place to play, price rise after price rise, mixed messages, games everywhere. Milking the currents users while not enticing new ones.

It’s becoming a sad state of affairs. I think it’s becoming clear that MS can chase Xbox money in AI ventures instead, and just focus on software and using AI to churn out said software.

@Hern4ndeZzz but that new Xbox is going to be a minimum of $1000 - 1200 (judging by most estimates) do you think those casual Series S users will upgrade to it? Probably not if people are being honest.

Happy new year to everyone

April fools is a little early this year.

When you are trying to argue that the console isn’t their focus and an even more niche lower selling 3rd party product is more a focus - well that’s spin.

Thats a 7:1 ratio to PS over last 12months (4:1 year before) so people are buying consoles.

It’s a shame, it used to be the cheapest way to game. And the pivot is rapidly turning to the most expensive.

So again what is it that’s causing people not to buy Microsoft?

Merry Christmas everyone

Condolences to his family.

R.I.P

Involved in some great games throughout his career.

So 40%?

Why take months to even bother responding to this. Makes no sense. (And yes I’m sure they were asked and this was the response) but it just feels like the ship sailed long long ago.

@Fiendish-Beaver they expect the 3rd to release on all platforms I believe.

Rebirth will come down the line (at a guess I’d imagine 6-12mth gap)

I bet MS are happy to have this as a console exclusive!

First one has such good ideas but Jesus it’s still a mess years later

The budget is that much to do a wrap up?!?! Doesn’t make sense.

I know it’s funny. But man it’s always ‘Next year’

Doom for me. Although feels like it’s been out longer than it has!

Should have been oblivion but honestly it is buggy af.

@SuntannedDuck2 man what is give for Sony to redo GT4 or at least the next entry in that style.

It won’t happen but a guy can dream.

Real shame for FM was looking forward to it but it was disappointing on release and I guess numbers never recovered

I think £25-30 would look better than £35.

I don’t think it will do very well. It will be yet another failed live service by Sony. On the plus side it can’t do as bad as Concord right? Right?

@Chip-Douglas comment 28 sums it up.

Plus just late last year stalker2, in future Ark2

So yeah it happens. But I like how the Xbox ones don’t matter because they are ‘small’ or whatever. It’s either bad or it isn’t.

@Chip-Douglas so what about the games they’ve done it this year alone?

That’s all ok? But Sony do it and it’s wrong? How does that square in your head?

@Chip-Douglas so how do you feel when MS do it?

It’s obviously something that brings in extra money for whoever does it. Or else it wouldn’t be done.

@Chip-Douglas

Compared to other games, the money coming in will still dwarf most of them. But potentially it can all be good news for future games

@GuyinPA75 @Chip-Douglas

I think this year has just been a ‘perfect storm’ of things against CoD. Normally has a free run of shooters at this time of year. - Except it now has BF6 arc raider HD2 etc

Usually has a serviceable campaign mode - this year it’s been poor by those standards.

It’s gone BO6 to 7.same series and It’s a follow up to a game that had lots of bad received skins etc.

There’s the obvious GPU price rise.

Theres the no Sony big advertising budget - honestly the adverts in the UK were just weird.

But as you say hopefully its made MS realise it needs some big improvements, and while it’s not a game of my personal choice its a shame to see how it’s falling and fast.

For anyone interested and if you have a disk drive (ps5/X)

The physical version is sub £40 in smyths/curry’s in the UK.

@BrownOwl truthfully while you are right to a degree, the upcoming months will see more people drop it due to the fact they will start seeing Microsoft £23/$30 on their bank statements.

That’s when more families etc will realise. MS really need to bring out a yearly pass. The conversion method is just a faff.

@Decimateh I guess it’s more because there’s multiple CoD on Gamepass. And had 10/11months of the year.

And the fact people didn’t cancel till November.

Both can be true. And the fact that BO7 has struggled since release (relatively speaking to other CoD) shows that too. There’s been no big pats on the back X posts to congratulate how it’s sold/played.

Reads to me that they are going back to previous years. Of BO one year, MW another. Rather than back to back BO.

Game will still come yearly.

@betterthings

Sigh.

There’s more than Dave the diver. There’s FF16, Death Stranding, silent hill. All big games that still did poorly on a shadow drop. Alongside all the other smaller yet well received games doing poor.

My point being that shadow drops may sound cool and all but actually don’t do very well.

Im surprise MS is sticking to this shadow drop tactic considering it isn’t turning into sales.

https://www.trueachievements.com/news/xbox-shadow-drops-2025

@GamerScore200K MS get $$$

@Nic-Noc20th-C very few.

This is Sony pricing their consoles to attract families and casuals (and let’s be honest it’s the prices these consoles should be)

It’s coming upto Xmas little Timmy wants a new console. Mum goes hmmm the £300 PS5 or the £450 or whatever it costs Series X.

Oh gamepass now costs £23a month But PSplus is £100 in Black Friday sale? Hmm ok it’s definitely a ps5.

Fantastic game.

How I wish final fantasy will take inspiration from it going forward.

Bit of a poor Ultimate offering right there.

I expected a couple of solid months after the big price rise.

Better than nothing, keeps the S just cheaper than the ps5.

@FraserG anyone at PX heard more on the rumours MS may be doing a price increase again?

PD on the n64 was so much fun. 4 player split screen. Find a corridor and put whatever gun it was the made a turret on the wall.

What awesome response is this?

It’s getting panned everywhere (apart from a few people who would say it’s amazing if it was stickmen)

Sales are down, players are down not even MS have put out much of a statement (you know the usual #1 in hours/players etc). Of course it will still sell well!

I think they need to do the F1 thing and skip a year. Give the teams some breathing space. Let them see what they can come up with more time.

Soundtrack/art I fully agree.

GoTY, it’s at a sub 80 on metacritic, sub 7 on user scores. It just couldn’t be included there.

If it’s not next Nov/Dec then surely we are at the point where Rockstar will end up delaying for the next box/ps6?

I’ll pay £60 if a game is finished. Polished.

But you release a buggy mess? No thankyou.

You told me your roadmap that you are doing 2 dlc, - well I’ll wait and play it in one - I don’t have time to come back to every game.

This is the year the CoD has some big competition for gamers time.

Battlefield, arc raiders, the usual Fortnite type ones and even HD2 to name a few.

Not that it will sell bad, but they are going to have to get ontop of everything this year I feel.

@themightyant think you say it all there.

I agree for a first iteration it seems solid enough and a platform to build on for an ‘ally 2’

As always it’s going to come down to the price.

@themightyant for me period be using this looking backwards.

I miss a lot of the older strategy games that will run fine on the hardware.

If it’s around £500-600 I’m interested.

Have to admit I’m interested in seeing the price.

There is a lot of older pc games I’ve missed out on Over the years I’d be interested in

@You-come-to-me it’s following the same as every other subscription model out there. Cheap to get you hooked then price increases. Everyone except MS biggest defenders said this.

But in 2years time where is the price going to be? £40/$50 a month? Ontop of potential of a 1k+ machine?

That’s the problem, the S sold really well. So how do you take those with you to a premium console? Or those that bought it as a second console

@fatpunkslim the cancellation isn’t going to come all at once.

People are stacked, parents will only realise over the next few months when the check bank payments etc.

I don’t think enough will cancel to make MS reconsider- hopefully though it gives them warning that it’s getting to a limit of what people can tolerate. Plus the people like me who have dropped to premium are essentially giving them the same monthly fee.

And I can’t see how they could reconsider, they have deals in place with /fortnite so any backtracking would cost them.

For me the bigger shame is the way Xbox is heading that it’s gone from being the cheapest best deal in gaming, to actually well is it?! And then next gen premium console.

I’ve dropped to premium now. I’m just going to sub monthly at the minute. Probably wait until there’s a good few games I want on ultimate then sub that for a month, assuming I can find cheap deals at the time.

And if Sony increases the prices by a similar amount I would drop from extra there.

I’ve also dropped Netflix to the ad version.