@TrollOfWar It isn't. That's not what a first party game is. First party has nothing to do with the IP. First party is a game developed by a developer owned by the owner of the platform, that's it, that's the entire definition.
People use the term 2nd party for this exact situation, because it's technically third party but obviously the relationship is closer than that.
Spiderman, which Sony does not own the IP, made by Insomniac for Playstation in 2018, was a 2nd party game
Spiderman 2, which Sony does not own the IP, made by Insomniac for Playstation in 2023, was a 1st party game.
The difference is Sony acquired Insomniac in 2019. Zero to do with IP ownership.
Completely disagree with the first comment, I enjoy reading the staff writers' views. It's a reason I come here. I don't need my video game news to be sterile
Eneloop pros kick the s*** out of every built in battery by a huge margin, plus I'd rather have a charged set ready to swap than get caught with a controller with a built in that I forgot to charge.
@Ricky-Spanish I sort of agree unless the game changes the formula significantly. My favorite by far is Remnant (2) which focuses on guns, a sci fi setting, replayability, and co-op. I've played plenty of others which just feel like "mom we have dark souls at home" and for the most part I don't have time for them anymore
I think Rod did a poor job directing both Gears and Diablo. I'm glad he's gone from the coalition and they're moving on like the 2 turds he led never happened. I hope he has a happy retirement.
After the news stories about Turn 10's social media going silent since the studio was basically shuttered, it looks like Sarah Bond logged into their Twitter to let us know everything is A-OK.
I mean, the dev was sort of publicly campaigning for it since shortly after the game came out, and yeah Sony finally gave the green light. It reminds me exactly of the Ori on Switch situation.
As graphics improved, the vast majority of JRPGs went full weeb bait and alienated a lot of long time fans. Thankfully those of us who grew up playing the oldies but never took to Chinese cartoons have been served very well with Like a Dragon and Expedition 33.
Regarding Xbox 360, it was home to one of my favorite JRPGs The Last Remnant. It's a shame the remaster is on everything except Xbox.
This doesn't feel rapid to me, at all. Are they even adding games as fast as games come out on Xbox? Is the expectation now that they aren't going to support all games, just a small boutique selection?
Oh man, Sacred 2!!! Is Blind Guardian still in it? \m/
Gothic Remaster looking incredible.
Darksiders lost me after the first one. Everything they've done between the end of 1 and now has been a total waste of time and they lost me as a fan. Looks like maybe they're finally making what Darksiders 2 should have been, wonder if there's any hype left for it. It's Gunfire though, so I might have to play it just to get a fix before they hopefully give us Remnant 3 someday.
Don't really care about the rest but starting to get pumped for Helldivers 2. Got a few friends ready to go and even a playstation guy from work to play it with. I don't think I've had a game to play with this many people since Gears 5.
With folks building digital libraries, its harder to get folks to 'jump ship'. Xbox likely knew folks wont walk away from a library of games they've built over two generations and brought games to the eco system those players are in.
Last gen, yes. This gen Xbox players were encouraged to stop buying games in favor of renting on game pass. We don't have libraries anymore. They even stopped giving us the dogs*** games with Games With Gold. It's going to be ridiculously easy for most of us to ditch Xbox next gen. Hell, chances are the next Xbox won't even support the vast majority of my Xbox library, which are enough Xbox and 360 games to fill up several 27 gallon totes.
Microsoft has done everything they could this gen to make it easy as hell to 'jump ship.'
I loved the first Octopath but still haven't gotten around to the second, ugh. Now I'm going to be 2 games behind. Just seeing Tressa in this trailer has me all nostalgia'd up and wanting to play this.
The other one looks great too, looking a little like Bravely Default (yet another game which I played the first but not the second).
@TrollOfWar I don't doubt it, if MS reached out to them as I said, it would make sense that they negotiated terms. It wouldnt surprise me at all if they gave Sony a sweetheart deal, and Sony would have zero reason to not take it if their games can be played on the hardware anyway. They put their games on EGS for the same reason, games don't sell in meaningful numbers there, but the cut is enticing.
@huroma it became unsustainable 2.5 years ago which is why they pulled the plug and we are currently in the circling the drain phase. As Chris Farley said in Billy Madison, I know from experience dude.
This is premature to what I thought would happen, which is the next gen "Xbox" having steam, and therefore having all the PlayStation games anyway. If that truly is MS's intention then they may have already told Sony privately, who is jumping the gun since they will have no choice but to support the next "Xbox" or stop putting their games on Steam. I've been saying that would happen for a long time, arguing with the people who think Sony could block an Xbox running Steam from playing their games (they can't). But I did not expect movement so soon
After finishing the last achievements for Remnant 2, 1750/1750, I'm replaying Remnant From the Ashes. Also a little bit of Robocop. Got my wife to make a character in FFXIV, a game we played over 10 years ago. If it sticks I will join her, I miss MMORPGs.
It would have absolutely, unquestioningly have been a bigger success. The game was a huge hit at launch with the media and gamers. The game died because they couldnt create more content for it. An engine everyone knows would have helped immensely. It might have actually launched on time, too.
There's a lot of people, commenters here included, rewriting history with idiotic narratives. Halo infinite was not a bad game. Halo infinite was not a good game. Halo infinite was a GREAT game, according to both the games media and players. It won the doritopope award show players choice award. It was after the game got no meaningful updates for a like a damn year that sentiment turned.
People starting to figure out what the "4 games" was going to mean. Games take about 5 years to develop, some longer. We're only on year 2 since Xbox pilled the plug. Everything that has come out since, and will come out for another year or 2, was long in development. We will start to see more and more of this
Finishing up Oblivion stuff. I never do more than 1 guild during the actual playthrough of a Bethesda game because it's not just immersion breaking, it's just stupid. But now that I've finished the game and shivering isles, I'm polishing off the fighters, thieves, and dark brotherhood stories. Sort of "non canon" for my playthrough.
Man... Jump Ship looks so much more appealing to me, but doesn't have cross play so it will be harder for me to put together a crew. This has cross play... It might just be important enough to put this over the top.
Well yeah, it was the single highest rated game the year it came out, arguably the best game of the generation, and Xbox's lone great exclusive of the gen. (Yes I'm aware it's cross gen). Of course it was going to pop off. The only other thing I could see doing similar is MCC, because Halo on Playstation is such a novelty.
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Re: Official PlayStation Website Adds Big Xbox Advertisement For Helldivers 2
@TrollOfWar It isn't. That's not what a first party game is. First party has nothing to do with the IP. First party is a game developed by a developer owned by the owner of the platform, that's it, that's the entire definition.
People use the term 2nd party for this exact situation, because it's technically third party but obviously the relationship is closer than that.
Spiderman, which Sony does not own the IP, made by Insomniac for Playstation in 2018, was a 2nd party game
Spiderman 2, which Sony does not own the IP, made by Insomniac for Playstation in 2023, was a 1st party game.
The difference is Sony acquired Insomniac in 2019. Zero to do with IP ownership.
Re: GameSir's Special Wireless G7 Pro For Xbox Is Now Available To Pre-Order
Any reviews for the wireless version? I wouldn't buy a wireless controller without seeing input latency tests.
Re: 90+ 'Stream Your Own Game' Titles Added To Xbox Cloud Gaming Lineup
Completely disagree with the first comment, I enjoy reading the staff writers' views. It's a reason I come here. I don't need my video game news to be sterile
Re: Poll: Should The Next Xbox Controller Support AA Batteries Again?
Eneloop pros kick the s*** out of every built in battery by a huge margin, plus I'd rather have a charged set ready to swap than get caught with a controller with a built in that I forgot to charge.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying Black Myth: Wukong On Xbox Next Week?
@Ricky-Spanish I sort of agree unless the game changes the formula significantly. My favorite by far is Remnant (2) which focuses on guns, a sci fi setting, replayability, and co-op. I've played plenty of others which just feel like "mom we have dark souls at home" and for the most part I don't have time for them anymore
Re: Halo Is Quietly Having A Resurgence Right Now, And There's A Lot More To Come
Mint Blitz makes great content
Re: Talking Point: What Should Xbox Do To Celebrate Its 25th Anniversary Next Year?
Halo on Playstation should be a perfect send off.
Re: Helldivers 2 'Bring The Boom' Trailer Teases Halo ODST Crossover On Xbox
@Questionable_Duck like Sonic in Nintendo games all over again
Re: Roundup: Here's What The PS5 Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's 'Hellblade 2 Enhanced'
3rd person, walk forwards to watch story? Sounds like a perfect fit for playstation.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver I kinda skimmed the article, thanks for the clarification
Re: Pick One: What's Your Favourite Battlefield Game On Xbox?
1942, and then 1943.
Re: After Five Years 'Driving' The Diablo Franchise, Rod Fergusson Is Leaving Blizzard & Microsoft
I think Rod did a poor job directing both Gears and Diablo. I'm glad he's gone from the coalition and they're moving on like the 2 turds he led never happened. I hope he has a happy retirement.
Re: The 'Exact' Release Date For The ROG Xbox Ally Has Leaked
Nope. I think I played my Switch undocked twice in its life. The last time I did any gaming on the go I had a Game Boy.
Re: Marathon Is Expected To Launch Before April 2026 As Sony Tightens Its Grip On Bungie
RIP Bungie, glad they stole a bunch of sony's money at least.
Re: Xbox Is Officially 'Stopping' Development On First-Party Game Contraband
Not a first party game
Re: Forza Motorsport Team 'Assures' Players That Support Will Continue
After the news stories about Turn 10's social media going silent since the studio was basically shuttered, it looks like Sarah Bond logged into their Twitter to let us know everything is A-OK.
Re: Shadow Drop! 'Heretic + Hexen' Is Now Available On Xbox Game Pass
Man I loved Hexen... Might need to make time for this. Only problem is my kbm days are behind me.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
I mean, the dev was sort of publicly campaigning for it since shortly after the game came out, and yeah Sony finally gave the green light. It reminds me exactly of the Ori on Switch situation.
Re: Expedition 33 Dev On Turn-Based JRPGs: They Became 'Uncool' In Xbox 360 Era, Still Haven't Fully Recovered
As graphics improved, the vast majority of JRPGs went full weeb bait and alienated a lot of long time fans. Thankfully those of us who grew up playing the oldies but never took to Chinese cartoons have been served very well with Like a Dragon and Expedition 33.
Regarding Xbox 360, it was home to one of my favorite JRPGs The Last Remnant. It's a shame the remaster is on everything except Xbox.
Re: 'Days Gone' Tweet Attracts The Attention Of Xbox Fans, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
Rematering a 6 year old game is hilarious. Just call it what it really is, charging for a current gen update.
If you want to see a remaster, look at The Dragon's Trap.
Re: 100 New Games Added To Xbox 'Stream Your Own Game' For August
@WildConcept6 so, "yes."
Re: Report: Starfield PS5 Port Planned For Spring 2026 Alongside New Expansion
Starfield definitely got undeserved hate but it also wasn't great.
Re: 100 New Games Added To Xbox 'Stream Your Own Game' For August
This doesn't feel rapid to me, at all. Are they even adding games as fast as games come out on Xbox? Is the expectation now that they aren't going to support all games, just a small boutique selection?
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The THQ Nordic Showcase 2025
Oh man, Sacred 2!!! Is Blind Guardian still in it? \m/
Gothic Remaster looking incredible.
Darksiders lost me after the first one. Everything they've done between the end of 1 and now has been a total waste of time and they lost me as a fan. Looks like maybe they're finally making what Darksiders 2 should have been, wonder if there's any hype left for it. It's Gunfire though, so I might have to play it just to get a fix before they hopefully give us Remnant 3 someday.
Re: Opinion: This Month On Xbox Is Stacked, Including A Few First-Party Treats
Don't really care about the rest but starting to get pumped for Helldivers 2. Got a few friends ready to go and even a playstation guy from work to play it with. I don't think I've had a game to play with this many people since Gears 5.
Re: Rumour: Sony Is Planning To Bring More PS5 Games To Xbox
Weebleman wrote:
Last gen, yes. This gen Xbox players were encouraged to stop buying games in favor of renting on game pass. We don't have libraries anymore. They even stopped giving us the dogs*** games with Games With Gold. It's going to be ridiculously easy for most of us to ditch Xbox next gen. Hell, chances are the next Xbox won't even support the vast majority of my Xbox library, which are enough Xbox and 360 games to fill up several 27 gallon totes.
Microsoft has done everything they could this gen to make it easy as hell to 'jump ship.'
Re: Free Play Days: Try These Xbox Games For Free (July 31 - August 3)
The Ascent is a very good time in co-op. The cyberpunk setting is 10/10.
Re: Square Enix Announces Two Brand-New RPGs For Xbox Series X|S
I loved the first Octopath but still haven't gotten around to the second, ugh. Now I'm going to be 2 games behind. Just seeing Tressa in this trailer has me all nostalgia'd up and wanting to play this.
The other one looks great too, looking a little like Bravely Default (yet another game which I played the first but not the second).
Re: Microsoft Highlights First-Party & Xbox Game Pass Success In FY25 Q4 Earnings Report
@huroma we've already seen the future, which is the asus handheld thing. More of that, just with the ability to play legacy Xbox digital games.
Re: 'Xbox PC' Gets Renamed Again As Microsoft Tries To Figure Out The Perfect Branding
Games for Windows Live
Re: Xbox Game Pass Annual Revenue Nears $5 Billion For First Time, Says Microsoft CEO
If the average game pass subscriber is paying $15 a month, then that's less than 28 million subscribers.
There's a reason they don't give subscriber numbers anymore. It's the same reason they stopped giving console sales numbers last gen.
Re: Talking Point: So, What Other PS5 Games Do You Want To See Come To Xbox?
@TrollOfWar I don't doubt it, if MS reached out to them as I said, it would make sense that they negotiated terms. It wouldnt surprise me at all if they gave Sony a sweetheart deal, and Sony would have zero reason to not take it if their games can be played on the hardware anyway. They put their games on EGS for the same reason, games don't sell in meaningful numbers there, but the cut is enticing.
Re: Microsoft Highlights First-Party & Xbox Game Pass Success In FY25 Q4 Earnings Report
@huroma it became unsustainable 2.5 years ago which is why they pulled the plug and we are currently in the circling the drain phase. As Chris Farley said in Billy Madison, I know from experience dude.
Re: Xbox Introduces Controversial Age Verification Process In The UK
They should just use verification cans like in the 360 days.
Re: Report: Two Of Xbox's Upcoming First-Party Titles Are In Development For PS5
No duh
Gears is already on playstation ffs
Re: Talking Point: Are You Still Hyped For Hollow Knight: Silksong On Xbox Game Pass?
Hollow Knight is simultaneously a great game and the most overrated game of all time.
Re: Talking Point: So, What Other PS5 Games Do You Want To See Come To Xbox?
This is premature to what I thought would happen, which is the next gen "Xbox" having steam, and therefore having all the PlayStation games anyway. If that truly is MS's intention then they may have already told Sony privately, who is jumping the gun since they will have no choice but to support the next "Xbox" or stop putting their games on Steam. I've been saying that would happen for a long time, arguing with the people who think Sony could block an Xbox running Steam from playing their games (they can't). But I did not expect movement so soon
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Wuchang: Fallen Feathers On Xbox Game Pass?
I'm sorry but I can't stop confusing Wuchang, Wo Long, and Wukong.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 26-27)
After finishing the last achievements for Remnant 2, 1750/1750, I'm replaying Remnant From the Ashes. Also a little bit of Robocop. Got my wife to make a character in FFXIV, a game we played over 10 years ago. If it sticks I will join her, I miss MMORPGs.
Re: Talking Point: Would Halo Infinite Have Been A Bigger Success Using Unreal Engine 5?
It would have absolutely, unquestioningly have been a bigger success. The game was a huge hit at launch with the media and gamers. The game died because they couldnt create more content for it. An engine everyone knows would have helped immensely. It might have actually launched on time, too.
There's a lot of people, commenters here included, rewriting history with idiotic narratives. Halo infinite was not a bad game. Halo infinite was not a good game. Halo infinite was a GREAT game, according to both the games media and players. It won the doritopope award show players choice award. It was after the game got no meaningful updates for a like a damn year that sentiment turned.
Re: Wildgate Brings Its Fast-Paced PVP Shooter To Xbox Series X|S Today
No thanks on this one for several reasons, pvp and blizzard art style being the big 2.
If the concept of this interests you but you want pve, check out the 10 minute gameplay trailer for Jump Ship. It looks INCREDIBLE.
Re: No Rest For The Wicked May Skip Xbox 'For The Time Being' Due To 'Current Market Conditions'
People starting to figure out what the "4 games" was going to mean. Games take about 5 years to develop, some longer. We're only on year 2 since Xbox pilled the plug. Everything that has come out since, and will come out for another year or 2, was long in development. We will start to see more and more of this
Re: These 20+ Xbox Games Are At Their 'Lowest Price Ever' In The 2025 Summer Sale
@Kezelpaso "um actshually the future is part of 'ever' please be more specific from now on"
Unbelievable
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 19-20)
Finishing up Oblivion stuff. I never do more than 1 guild during the actual playthrough of a Bethesda game because it's not just immersion breaking, it's just stupid. But now that I've finished the game and shivering isles, I'm polishing off the fighters, thieves, and dark brotherhood stories. Sort of "non canon" for my playthrough.
Re: Remedy Says 'This Is Just The Start' As FBC: Firebreak Gets Xbox Game Pass Roadmap
Love coop games but this one just doesn't look like my kind of game in tone. I see it and it makes me want to fire up darktide.
Re: Void Crew Brings Its Chaotic Co-Op Roguelite To Xbox This September
Man... Jump Ship looks so much more appealing to me, but doesn't have cross play so it will be harder for me to put together a crew. This has cross play... It might just be important enough to put this over the top.
Wildgate a very distant 3rd.
Re: PC Game Pass Members Are Being Treated To A Surprise New Release Today (July 17)
I like that art. Reminds me of Shadowgate for some reason.
Re: Microsoft Movies & TV Is Officially Ending, Which Will Have A Big Impact On Xbox
The real news for me here is that people actually bought movies on Xbox or any console. I wouldn't believe it if commenters here didn't say it.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited For Double Fine's Follow-Up To Psychonauts 2?
I would never miss a Tim Shafer game.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
Well yeah, it was the single highest rated game the year it came out, arguably the best game of the generation, and Xbox's lone great exclusive of the gen. (Yes I'm aware it's cross gen). Of course it was going to pop off. The only other thing I could see doing similar is MCC, because Halo on Playstation is such a novelty.