I'm not buying Death Stranding unless I know the sequel is coming to Xbox. It'd be like buying Crisis Core.
Also, Outer Wilds isn't just the best walking sim of all time, it's considered by many the greatest game of all time. I liked What Remains of Edith Finch, but not as much as The Stanley Parable.
@cragis0001 I don't understand the point about the ecosystem. Because Microsoft Game Studios is putting games on Playstation, Switch, and Steam, that's going to entice 3rd parties to put games on Xbox? The truth is very strongly the exact opposite.
And no one is going to cancel a port far along in development.
I watched a video the other day with evidence that DOOM and Quake take place in the same universe and now I'm looking forward to the new one even more.
I liked the first Savage Planet, I'm glad the dev escaped Google after being acquired to make Stadia content. I'd like to play the sequel but not sure if I've the time.
I've never played an extraction shooter and I'm not going to start now, but I do like this art style.
I've never owned a Mac, so I didn't play Marathon, but Ive seen retrospectives and the story seemed really interesting. If this doesn't continue it at all I imagine fans of the series will be as disappointed in this as I was with Phantasy Star Online. Which is to say, the most amount of disappointment possible
@Zaphod42 for me it was the first Jackass movie opening night. Packed theater full of people drunk, and lots still drinking with booze they snuck in, everyone was laughing so hard they were crying. People laying on the stairs laughing so hard. It was an incredibly good time. Ushers I think just left the building 5 minutes into it, they weren't even going to try.
I think back then people just called the cops for real issues, at least that's how I remember it.
@cragis0001 Games take very roughly 3-7 years to dev, so the current sales apocalypse Xbox hardware has been having for the last 2 years won't really start to materialize as games skipping Xbox until next year. Any games already skipping (for sales reasons) are due to already poor sales dating back to the Xbox One.
To me, it feels about the same as it's been. But I know where it's headed unless MS gets a console out the door fast that runs Windows games (which all signs point to that being the plan).
Picked up the Age of Wonders 4 premium edition on sale yesterday after the free weekend. Loving it, playing turn based with email notifications with friends. It's a pretty brilliant melding of 4x with Heroes of Might and Magic.
The only thing I'd be interested in at launch is Mario kart world, and I'm not paying £500 for one game
this is me exactly, I only ever play Mario Kart on all my Nintendo systems since Gamecube. Maybe a little Pikmin. Hard to justify this right now in my family.
I said this last gen too, I really wish Nintendo would release a screen less, battery less version with no portability. I used my Switch once ever in handheld mode. It's a complete waste of money for me and I'm sure im not alone.
@Fiendish-Beaver I rolled credits at 104 hours. I do sit and watch all conversations though. Wonderful game with a great ending which is very much appreciated after spending that much time.
I like the wikipedia back compat list better than the Microsoft one, I find it easier to peruse.
So for maybe the 2nd time in decades I'm playing a free weekend game. I roped in a few friends to try Age of Wonders 4, we set up a lobby and are playing PBEM - my fellow geriatrics will know that is play by email. The idea being none of us have any time, so we'll run a campaign, you get an email when it's your turn, and it should be a fun slow burn of a turn or 2 per day for months if we buy it. Loving it, the faction creation alone is worth the price of admission. Half of us on PC and half on Xbox, gotta love crossplay.
@cragis0001 It's not really an argument, it's just numbers and what is actually happening. Things have gotten worse this gen, but last gen was already terrible. Look at FFXV sales, a game that Xbox had exclusive marketing rights for. It's bad.
So even a large install base like PlayStation's doesn't automatically mean success.
This is obvious. The vast majority of Android and iphone games fail. And yet (while it was around) almost no one ported their games to Windows phone.
How many of those players played Worlds or Rise through Games Pass or PlayStation Plus. Enjoyed them & saw the value of the previous games then decided purchased new ones.
I don't know and neither do you. I'd love to know the breakdown in players by platform.
I really loved the first half of Lords of the Fallen, but it overstayed it's welcome a bit and then the completely non existent ending pissed me off. I understand there are multiple endings but I'm sure as hell not going to play through again to find out if they're good.
I liked the first half enough to be excited for the sequel.
After going ham in 2024 and buying/playing a ton of games at release, here I am again in 2025 back to my old ways, I haven't played a single thing released this year yet. On the single player side this year I finished up Metaphor Refantazio and Songs of Conquest, and my co-op group is still finishing up For the King 2. On this list, I really want to get to KCD2 for single player and Monster Hunter for co-op.
@cragis0001 I don't blame people for subbing to game pass and I don't blame 3rd parties for skipping Xbox if they don't have a game pass deal because the install base is small and those users now by and large don't buy games. Both things make sense.
Pretty sure I paid more than that for the Phantasy Star games, and that's not even adjusting for inflation.
Hypothetically I'd be happy to pay it if the game was complete, no microtransaction nickel and diming after purchase. Unfortunately that isn't reality, the industry will jack prices while cramming more microtransactions.
@Rog-X that's the point, or at least half of it. MS has conditioned a huge portion of Xbox's user base to think exactly like you. And when everyone thinks like you, what incentive is there for a 3rd party to put their game on Xbox without a Gamepass deal?
Just like the Switch 1, it's an awful value if you don't use it as a portable. Nintendo marks up their hardware, and you're paying for a screen and battery you don't need. I wish they would sell a cheaper, non portable version.
Quake should be #1. The amount that it innovated in online gameplay with native tcpip with Quakeworld, shooter mechanics with the z axis and controls, and 3D graphics with id tech 2 which influenced EVERYTHING. Kbm WASD controls. Everything before Quake feels ancient, everything since Quake STILL feels like Quake. Quake invented esports, who can forget Thresh winning the Ferrari?
There is nothing in the history of video games that has influenced like Quake.
I own one and it's embarrassing. Had to return it twice for 2 different problems. Stick drift is only one issue that I didn't even run into. Buttons not registering is incredibly common with this pad. If you Google it you'll find tons of reddit threads and people explaining the design flaw that causes it. For $150. Inexcusable
I was playing it every Thursday with my friends from release through a couple months after the 2nd expansion. Loved my time with the game but it ran its course. The only game we stuck with longer as a group is probably Gears 5.
@armondo36 literally zero chance of that, they make a tiny fraction of what they made from 93 to 96. They're a blip comparatively. You can't be serious.
When you have a successful platform, you're taking in pure profit on every 3rd party game sold. It's a far different equation when a massive cut of your revenue is eaten by game dev.
@themightyant not only are they bloated, but the employees themselves are largely in countries with very strong employee protections. Microsoft (and Tencent) want none of that.
Played it a bunch at launch with friends casually. The skill ceiling in the game is incredibly high. Every game session ended with other people dunking on us easily taking all our stuff. We never had any intention on "getting gud" so we just quit. My understanding is after years of people begging Rare added PVE modes but unfortunately that ship has sailed - pun intended.
There is a game coming called Jump Ship. It looks like Sea of Thieves + FTL. It looks like the game I've been waiting for my whole life. They released a 10 minute gameplay trailer recently and I was glued to my screen the entire time. Coming to both Xbox and PC. Here it is if anyone is interested.
Great news for people who were holding out to play it on GP.
There were people who were extremely aggressive attacking people who said the game bombed (Jason Schreier for example did some name calling). Those people looked silly then and look a lot sillier now.
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Re: 10 Discounted Games You Should Buy In The Xbox Spring Sale 2025
I'm not buying Death Stranding unless I know the sequel is coming to Xbox. It'd be like buying Crisis Core.
Also, Outer Wilds isn't just the best walking sim of all time, it's considered by many the greatest game of all time. I liked What Remains of Edith Finch, but not as much as The Stanley Parable.
Re: Xbox Boss Says Microsoft Remains Committed To Developing New IP
HiFi Rush bombed and they closed the studio. South of Midnight is bombing, let's see what happens.
Re: Bloober Team Ups The Ante With Dead Space-Like Cronos: The New Dawn Footage
@Fiendish-Beaver funny you mention Remnant, I came here thinking this was news about Remnant's prequel Chronos: Before the Ashes
Re: Xbox Adds Multiple Highly-Requested Features In April 2025 Update
I don't know why but the headline made me think after almost 5 years, they were finally giving the dashboard HDR support. Sad.
Re: These 10 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (April 16 - May 6)
Clair Obscur
Neon White
Towerborne
Dredge
That's a home run
Re: 'Oblivion Remastered' Images Leak Ahead Of Imminent Xbox Release
Looks great but I won't bother on console unless they revamp the atrocious level scaling.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@cragis0001 I don't understand the point about the ecosystem. Because Microsoft Game Studios is putting games on Playstation, Switch, and Steam, that's going to entice 3rd parties to put games on Xbox? The truth is very strongly the exact opposite.
And no one is going to cancel a port far along in development.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Expect Xbox To Follow PlayStation With More Console Price Hikes?
They couldn't sell them for $350 with a free game during Christmas 2023, good luck selling one for more than $500 now.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In May 2025 So Far
I watched a video the other day with evidence that DOOM and Quake take place in the same universe and now I'm looking forward to the new one even more.
I liked the first Savage Planet, I'm glad the dev escaped Google after being acquired to make Stadia content. I'd like to play the sequel but not sure if I've the time.
Re: Bungie's 'Marathon' Gets September Release Date For Xbox, Closed Alpha This Month
I've never played an extraction shooter and I'm not going to start now, but I do like this art style.
I've never owned a Mac, so I didn't play Marathon, but Ive seen retrospectives and the story seemed really interesting. If this doesn't continue it at all I imagine fans of the series will be as disappointed in this as I was with Phantasy Star Online. Which is to say, the most amount of disappointment possible
Re: Talking Point: What Dream Reveal Would You Like To See At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
True Fantasy Live Online release date
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 12-13)
Lots of Everquest and hopefully a few turns of my asynchronous multiplayer AoW4 game. Probably gonna be like this for the foreseeable future.
Re: Three Classic Activision Games Listed For Xbox Game Pass By Microsoft
Where's Candy Crush for Gamepass? Cmon MS give the people the game that you paid 70B for.
Re: Toys For Bob Talks 'Ambitious' New Xbox Game & Banjo-Kazooie Interest
These comments have some weird energy and I feel like I need to participate. Bring back Azurik he could have been bigger than Mario.
Re: Minecraft Movie Director Weirded Out By Cops Being Called To Cinemas
@Zaphod42 for me it was the first Jackass movie opening night. Packed theater full of people drunk, and lots still drinking with booze they snuck in, everyone was laughing so hard they were crying. People laying on the stairs laughing so hard. It was an incredibly good time. Ushers I think just left the building 5 minutes into it, they weren't even going to try.
I think back then people just called the cops for real issues, at least that's how I remember it.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@cragis0001 Games take very roughly 3-7 years to dev, so the current sales apocalypse Xbox hardware has been having for the last 2 years won't really start to materialize as games skipping Xbox until next year. Any games already skipping (for sales reasons) are due to already poor sales dating back to the Xbox One.
To me, it feels about the same as it's been. But I know where it's headed unless MS gets a console out the door fast that runs Windows games (which all signs point to that being the plan).
Re: Xbox Pulls Back The Curtain On Two Behind-Closed-Doors Showcases
Man, I saw Outbound and thought you got to see Outward 2 and got REALLY excited for a second.
Re: Nintendo's Doug Bowser Just Channelled One Of The Most Infamous Xbox Quotes Ever
This is much more like Kutaragi's PS3 price quote, that people would get a 2nd job to get one.
The similarity with Mattrick's quote is superficial.
Re: Xbox Spring Sale 2025 'Sneak Preview' Now Live, 400+ Games Discounted
Picked up the Age of Wonders 4 premium edition on sale yesterday after the free weekend. Loving it, playing turn based with email notifications with friends. It's a pretty brilliant melding of 4x with Heroes of Might and Magic.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Throws Shade At Switch 2, Says It's A 'Hard Pass'
Titntin wrote:
this is me exactly, I only ever play Mario Kart on all my Nintendo systems since Gamecube. Maybe a little Pikmin. Hard to justify this right now in my family.
I said this last gen too, I really wish Nintendo would release a screen less, battery less version with no portability. I used my Switch once ever in handheld mode. It's a complete waste of money for me and I'm sure im not alone.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 5-6)
@Fiendish-Beaver I rolled credits at 104 hours. I do sit and watch all conversations though. Wonderful game with a great ending which is very much appreciated after spending that much time.
I like the wikipedia back compat list better than the Microsoft one, I find it easier to peruse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backward-compatible_games_for_Xbox_One_and_Series_X/S
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 5-6)
So for maybe the 2nd time in decades I'm playing a free weekend game. I roped in a few friends to try Age of Wonders 4, we set up a lobby and are playing PBEM - my fellow geriatrics will know that is play by email. The idea being none of us have any time, so we'll run a campaign, you get an email when it's your turn, and it should be a fun slow burn of a turn or 2 per day for months if we buy it. Loving it, the faction creation alone is worth the price of admission. Half of us on PC and half on Xbox, gotta love crossplay.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@cragis0001 It's not really an argument, it's just numbers and what is actually happening. Things have gotten worse this gen, but last gen was already terrible. Look at FFXV sales, a game that Xbox had exclusive marketing rights for. It's bad.
This is obvious. The vast majority of Android and iphone games fail. And yet (while it was around) almost no one ported their games to Windows phone.
I don't know and neither do you. I'd love to know the breakdown in players by platform.
Re: Here's What Might Leave Xbox Game Pass In May 2025
I really loved the first half of Lords of the Fallen, but it overstayed it's welcome a bit and then the completely non existent ending pissed me off. I understand there are multiple endings but I'm sure as hell not going to play through again to find out if they're good.
I liked the first half enough to be excited for the sequel.
Re: After Three Months, These Are The Top 10 Xbox Games Of 2025
After going ham in 2024 and buying/playing a ton of games at release, here I am again in 2025 back to my old ways, I haven't played a single thing released this year yet. On the single player side this year I finished up Metaphor Refantazio and Songs of Conquest, and my co-op group is still finishing up For the King 2. On this list, I really want to get to KCD2 for single player and Monster Hunter for co-op.
Re: Video: Phil Spencer Shows Off 'Secret Xbox Lab' For Next-Gen Hardware
Ok so what internet sleuth is going to figure out the unannounced project on Phil's shelf?
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@cragis0001 I don't blame people for subbing to game pass and I don't blame 3rd parties for skipping Xbox if they don't have a game pass deal because the install base is small and those users now by and large don't buy games. Both things make sense.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Willing To Pay $80 For Xbox Games?
Pretty sure I paid more than that for the Phantasy Star games, and that's not even adjusting for inflation.
Hypothetically I'd be happy to pay it if the game was complete, no microtransaction nickel and diming after purchase. Unfortunately that isn't reality, the industry will jack prices while cramming more microtransactions.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@Rog-X that's the point, or at least half of it. MS has conditioned a huge portion of Xbox's user base to think exactly like you. And when everyone thinks like you, what incentive is there for a 3rd party to put their game on Xbox without a Gamepass deal?
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Still Coming To Xbox In 2025, Insists Insider
@Krzzystuff it's Xbox. They realize there won't be high sales.
Re: ASUS Xbox Handheld Set To Rival The Nintendo Switch 2 In Price
Put an Xbox sticker on the Switch and it's just as much an Xbox as the Asus.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
Xbox fans just sub to Gamepass, they don't buy games, so nothing to worry about.
Re: Nintendo Just Broke Our Hearts With Today's Final Fantasy 7 Annoucement
@GamingFan4Lyf Sony would never do that, according to most of the super well informed commenters on every Black Myth Wukong article.
Re: Switch 2 Feature Reminds People Of The Disastrous Xbox One Launch
Just like the Switch 1, it's an awful value if you don't use it as a portable. Nintendo marks up their hardware, and you're paying for a screen and battery you don't need. I wish they would sell a cheaper, non portable version.
Re: BAFTA Announces List Of Top 21 Most Influential Games Ever
Quake should be #1. The amount that it innovated in online gameplay with native tcpip with Quakeworld, shooter mechanics with the z axis and controls, and 3D graphics with id tech 2 which influenced EVERYTHING. Kbm WASD controls. Everything before Quake feels ancient, everything since Quake STILL feels like Quake. Quake invented esports, who can forget Thresh winning the Ferrari?
There is nothing in the history of video games that has influenced like Quake.
Re: Xbox Handheld Seemingly Revealed By ASUS In New Teaser Trailer
This is going to sell in the triple digits.
Re: Sony Causes A Stir Among Xbox Fans With Black Myth: Wukong Comment
I agree with Digital Foundry that some sort of agreement was made, just not a typical one.
Re: Microsoft Posts 'Farewell' Message As Xbox Game Pass Mobile App Goes Offline
This is the company who spent $70B thinking they were going to compete with Google and Apple's stores. They can't even compete with sony's mobile app.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In April 2025
Clair Obscur looks great and can't wait to try Towerborne with friends.
Re: Amazon Adds 'Frequently Returned Item' Warning To Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller
I own one and it's embarrassing. Had to return it twice for 2 different problems. Stick drift is only one issue that I didn't even run into. Buttons not registering is incredibly common with this pad. If you Google it you'll find tons of reddit threads and people explaining the design flaw that causes it. For $150. Inexcusable
Re: Talking Point: Which MMORPGs Would You Love To Play Natively On Xbox?
Well I'm currently hooked on one of my old loves, Everquest, so this is a pretty easy one to answer.
Re: Poll: As Forza Horizon 5 Cruises To PS5, Are You Still Playing It On Xbox?
I was playing it every Thursday with my friends from release through a couple months after the 2nd expansion. Loved my time with the game but it ran its course. The only game we stuck with longer as a group is probably Gears 5.
Re: Sony-Owned 'Patapon' Is Coming To PS5, Switch And PC, But No Sign Of Xbox
Port begging as an Xbox fan has to be an extremely miserable experience.
Re: Three Xbox Games Are In The Top 10 Pre-Orders On PS5 Right Now
@armondo36 literally zero chance of that, they make a tiny fraction of what they made from 93 to 96. They're a blip comparatively. You can't be serious.
When you have a successful platform, you're taking in pure profit on every 3rd party game sold. It's a far different equation when a massive cut of your revenue is eaten by game dev.
Re: Xbox Buying Ubisoft Would Be An Unwise Move, Suggests Former PlayStation Boss
@themightyant not only are they bloated, but the employees themselves are largely in countries with very strong employee protections. Microsoft (and Tencent) want none of that.
Re: Three Xbox Games Are In The Top 10 Pre-Orders On PS5 Right Now
Put this up against the hardware sales over the last 16 months and then let's talk about how justified it is. Side by side, let's see them.
I bet Sega sold more games on PS2 and Xbox than they did on Dreamcast, too.
Re: Sea of Thieves Already Has Next 5 Years Planned, Starting With Xbox Exclusive 'X Edition'
Played it a bunch at launch with friends casually. The skill ceiling in the game is incredibly high. Every game session ended with other people dunking on us easily taking all our stuff. We never had any intention on "getting gud" so we just quit. My understanding is after years of people begging Rare added PVE modes but unfortunately that ship has sailed - pun intended.
There is a game coming called Jump Ship. It looks like Sea of Thieves + FTL. It looks like the game I've been waiting for my whole life. They released a 10 minute gameplay trailer recently and I was glued to my screen the entire time. Coming to both Xbox and PC. Here it is if anyone is interested.
https://youtu.be/vFaIpLGmBdA?si=V4P-sQ5Rzn4dk-ht
Re: Minecraft Set For Graphics Upgrade That Will 'Transform' Bedrock Edition On Xbox & Beyond
I'm sorry but this is comedy gold. I too cannot stand the device that shall not be named.
Re: Xbox Could Be Preparing To Add Two Big EA Releases To Game Pass
Great news for people who were holding out to play it on GP.
There were people who were extremely aggressive attacking people who said the game bombed (Jason Schreier for example did some name calling). Those people looked silly then and look a lot sillier now.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Atomfall On Xbox Game Pass
@RiverGenie gracias muchacho