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So, I'm not saying this wasn't a tech demo, the rest of this is almost certainly hypothetical.

If CDPR showed off what was literally the game, I still feel like at this point, they would start disclaimering it with things like this, it's not the final game, it's a tech demo, etc. Yes, Cyberpunk they rightfully got destroyed for. But people forget (not CDPR, they remember) The Witcher 3. They showed off the game, and then the final game looked slightly worse, and people lost their f**king minds. The griffon is SLIGHTLY LOWER RES OH MY GOD, WE GOT SCAMMED. The backlash to that was so beyond idiotic. I don't think CDPR will make that "mistake" again.

The real money is to be made by being a platform holder. Apple, Google, Sony, Valve, Nintendo. Do zero work, have zero risk, take 30% of everything. Sadly Microsoft failed at this. They are transitioning into becoming a larger Activision. That was never where the "real money" was to be made. They have seen where the most most money they can make is, since they failed at growing their platform.

Just look at their mobile ambitions, which are very clearly not to keep only putting their games on ios and android stores, but to have their own store, and have been fighting for this since the King (with Activision Blizzard tossed in) purchase.

@theduckofdeath 1000%, and then finished the job with $299. Sony fights wars to win them, they're ruthless and underhanded. The idea that they wouldn't do this absolutely masterful move to obliterate sentiment in the Series S (the best selling Xbox) is so beyond naive you can't even deal with these people.

And you know what else, head in the sand crowd? Why don't you look at it from Xbox's side?

How did Microsoft react to BG3 getting delayed on Xbox? Phil Spencer went on a public tour, doing interviews, in 1 of them I remember him sitting in front of a crowd telling Destin Legarie they were doing everything they could to get BG3 on Xbox ASAP.

How did Microsoft react to Wukong getting delayed on Xbox? A MS spokesperson stating they "prefer not to comment on the deals made by our partners with other platform holders." Phil Spencer shut down any questions about the game in interviews with 3 word or less answers.

Are you serious? It's the perfect campaign to torpedo the Series S. Here's a high profile, which became a GOTY contender game, and they made the narrative that Xbox doesn't get these games because Series S can't run them. This is Sony to a T. They killed Sega and the Dreamcast with their FUD campaign, just ask Peter Moore, he's always happy to tell you about it.

Meanwhile, what would announcing that they paid a bunch of money to keep it off Xbox gain them?

You guys have this so backwards, it's unbelievable.

Exactly 1 year after the release, but attacking people who think Sony had a hand in this, are the same sort of people who attacked anyone who said Covid probably originated in the Wuhan Covid research lab and not the Wuhan food market that was selling bats. Use your head, good lord lmao. Respected journalists like Digital Foundry had been saying this without giving up sources way before this 1 year "coincidence" lmao.

BG2 was my favorite RPG for over 20 years, it took Pathfinder WOTR to finally knock it off that throne. I never did play the enhanced edition, or on a console... Where to find the time? I know if I fire it up and see Irenicus that's all it would take, though.

Where on earth did you get this? We know from leaked FTC trial docs and also from Bobby K's testimony that more people play CoD on PC than on PS and Xbox combined.

We also know more people play CoD on mobile than the other 3 combined.

I wish I could retire and spend all that time with my family.

With th price hike of the console and this price...

IMO there's no argument to make to someone to buy this with a Series X over a serviceable PC.

I played it last year. I give it an easy 10, and it's my 3rd favorite JRPG in the last 2 years. THAT'S how good of a stretch it's been for JRPGs. What a time.

@Lrapsody it isn't apparent at first, but when it's all said and done there are very similar themes in both games. They come at it from very different angles and you won't see it until it's all said and done, both games really reveal themselves at the very end.

this looks great, Praise Geraldo

@lacerz we're past that, they're not pretending anything is exclusive anymore.

We're finally getting Azurik 2. Book it

Elden Ring Nighteign. Won my first run and I'm pretty hooked.

He's right. But gamepass was born when the entire Xbox division was about to be shut down by Nadella. It's not from a position of power. It was a desperate attempt by a trillion dollar company to regain market share and relevance. It's easy for Sony to take this position because their hardware sells.

@CaptainCluck God damn, this guy gets it. Refreshing to see. They drove the boat into an iceberg on purpose, and now are doing everything they can to keep people from jumping ship in the hopes they spend a few last dollars at the canteen. It's all *****.

Always down for more co-op games

Dude, same. That song is so good, I would sit at vending machines for way too long, and I listen to it on YouTube pretty often too.

Unpopular opinion: if Atomic Heart was a BioShock game it'd be the 2nd best one.

This is somewhat predictable, they never would have allowed the Asus thing to go out with Xbox branding if they were serious about a real, Xbox handheld. I kept asking how could they be so stupid? Turns out they weren't. Should have seen this coming.

It's also a sign of where things are going, for the "it's only 4 games" crowd that is always behind on understanding we are and where we're going. The people still absolutely certain we are getting another Xbox console, because "Microsoft said.". That's 2 cancelled hardware projects in a row scrapped (the other being keystone). That's not even including the mid gen refresh that got leaked in the FTC trial that obviously has been cancelled.

There is a very high likelihood of Microsoft doing to the next Xbox what they just did to the handheld: scrap their own, go OEM with it, and let other companies slap an Xbox sticker on their devices.

I bought it even though I don't think I'm gonna be able to rope my friends into playing it with me. It's like an "if you build it, they will come" moment for me, let's see what happens.

I miss E3. Between that and the state of Xbox my interest is pretty tempered. I'll still watch.

Side note the thumbnail on my phone of Sarah Bond I thought was Itagaki, lmao.

I think I'm gonna move to New Zealand tomorrow

The failure rate of V2 right off the shelf is incredible. Would never buy another

Tried this game and couldn't do it. The post WoW game design is just not for me.

Amazing game that deserves huge success. What a time to be a JRPG fan.

@electrolite77 Games have long dev times, and things were actually looking pretty great for Xbox in 2020-2021.

There's a reason the next Xbox isn't going to require separate dev from PC and it's very easy to piece together what it is.

@Ricky-Spanish Xbox had exclusive marketing rights to FFXV. If you're not aware, go look at the sales breakdown. The gap has gotten worse since then. And look what platforms the 3 FF games since then were released on.

I buy a lot of Xbox games, too. Last year I think everything on my GOTY list was purchased. Unfortunately, neither you nor I are the average Xbox owner in 2025.

Dragons Dogma 2 DLC, please.

Valheim was my favorite on this list. The fact that I could host a private server on PC and my friends could connect on both PC and Xbox was huge and as far as I know unique.

@PJOReilly no Terraria? I don't love playing it with a gamepad but other than that, it's an all timer for sure. There's a crossplay patch coming and I'm hoping that like Valheim I can do a crossplay private server.

I also really enjoyed No Mans Sky and am looking forward to their next game. And while I didn't play it, I watched my wife go through Subnautica and that for sure wins best story on this list .

Xbox gamers at this point don't even buy games (physical or digital) in meaningful numbers because they've been conditioned to play what's included in their subscription. If games that aren't even on game pass don't sell on Xbox, something not only is on game pass, but was already on it for a year, has no chance. Maybe a super collectors edition with physical goodies for the mega fans.

@ScalenePowers I got excited thinking it was a new beginning, the Outcast game from last year.

This is making me nostalgic for Games with Gold.

@Fiendish-Beaver can't swear by this but I feel like I read that in addition to
being designed for 3 players, it's also playable solo, but not designed for 2 players. Don't take my word for though it's just something I feel I read in passing.

I dearly love Elden Ring and Dark Souls but after the beta, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to rope my friends who aren't really souls game fans into it. Remnant might be as close as I can get them.

No one needs or wants this, its entire purpose is to torpedo hype for an actual Xbox handheld. Marketing gurus over at Microsoft I tell ya.

Love this game, Grimskull is one of my favorite villains ever. The way he steals the show at the game's big plot twist moment is an all timer for me.

I do love Orks in general so I'm probably biased.

Finished E33 this week, now I'm halfway through doom. My Age of Wonders 4 game was on hiatus for a bit due to one of the guys having a work trip, but we're back on.

Gonna check out the demo after I finish DOOM. This, or Oblivion?

I actually love a healthy amount of jank, not minor league Bethesda jank, I'm talking full blown euro jank. Really looking forward to the Gothic remake.

Streaming is the opposite of game preservation. Every issue people have with game preservation is present with streaming. This is some insane spin.

We're preserving these games as long as our servers are up. Hold your applause.

Now that that space is available, a few updates from now they will fill it with more ads.

They also showed that there are 2 more DLC coming for Rogue Trader after the upcoming Arbites one.

The Arbites class looks amazing in Darktide too.

I just wish Speed Freeks would come to Xbox, it looks wild.

@Balaam_ and how.

@HonestHick this is actually brilliant. MS has shown they are "done" with Xbox (not talking about MGS, I'm talking about Xbox, the console). They'd happily use its corpse as a tool to bust into mobile. They spent $70B to bust into mobile, after all, and the courts have not helped them at all since.

This makes so much sense.

@Titntin haven't read through all the comments but my speculation is that they already don't sell games in meaningful numbers in their platform, not as much would change as people think. Just like this gen, it'll be a game pass machine for a large majority of owners, but now the ability to buy/play other games as well - which Xbox owners at large have proven time and again they no longer do.

I absolutely loved this game, and somehow it's now my 3rd favorite JRPG of the last 2 years. What a time to be a JRPG fan.

MechWarrior 2 on PC was one of my faves back in the day. Had no idea it was on playstation.

In before an AAAA joke

They will begin conditioning people to play streaming games. Those that choose not to will be left behind, which they are fine with as they will be getting out of hardware in a generation. It is what it is.

I do not like game streaming not just for performance reasons, but also (ironically in this case) game preservation.

I played the intro then swapped over to Clair Obscur and now DOOM. I'll be back.