@FraserG I fear it’s going to get lost in the shuffle of larger titles being released this week. I just nabbed it because I do love those devs, Ruiner was fantastic.
@Scummbuddy can’t pre install it but can pre load that little place holder that makes it install immediately when it’s available, maybe that is what they are talking about? I did the same.
That is disappointing. I know much wasn’t released about the game but I was interested in this game and that Zenimax co-op shooter. I just love co-op shooters in general so, this news sucks.
@Fiendish-Beaver the first one is one of my favorite survival games ever. It’s great. I am playing Abiotic Factor right now on Gamepass as well and it’s great as well. Nice surprise game that was never on my radar.
Excited to jump into Grounded 2. Even though I just started up a server on Abiotic Factor, another Gamepass game I highly recommend, game is a ton of fun. And I have been delving into Killing Floor 3. Too many great co op games coming out. Still haven’t been able to give Wildgate or Holdfast a go yet. 😅
@Fiendish-Beaver man I can’t imagine playing games that way. I tried out Expedition 33 because everybody was praising it and thought it was boring, I struggled to get through Act 1 trying to find out what the big deal on the game was. Meanwhile last night I just had a blast playing Killing Floor 3 for 4 hrs straight with my buddies. Another one I will throw on there is Death Stranding, absolute borefest for me, but seems to be getting praised everywhere. I already have Painkiller, Borderlands 4 and Outer Worlds 2 preordered because those game I know I will love regardless of what the internet will try to tell me.
@Fiendish-Beaver I do not agree. I have a style of games that I absolutely adore. I take Fallout 76 as a prime example I love the game and it reviewed very poorly. That’s why I tell people if a game looks like fun to you don’t let anybody tell you to dislike it. It’s actually a big reason a lot of these games are failing, people and media dissuade others from playing games now.
@Fiendish-Beaver people letting others choose what games they should play is crazy. If a game looks interesting and appeals to you you should play it. People give review sites and streamers too much power over their own decisions. It’s pretty crazy.
Xbox converting to PC can’t come fast enough. Crazy how people just don’t seem to buy games anymore on Xbox. Gamepass has completely taken over the ecosystem.
@Kaloudz end of the month is going to be great. Grounded 2, WuChang on Gamepass and I’m grabbing Killing Floor 3 as well. Should be some really good gaming.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner It probably fluctuates by month depending on how many are paying every month or three months. I think you can still buy 12 months of Core, I dunno. But I’m sure that makes it fluctuate
@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah, a lot of what’s happening still feels speculative, but there are some clear industry-wide trends at play. Rising development costs, bloated budgets, and shifting business models are creating a kind of perfect storm for game publishers. I try to keep context in mind, like comparing the size of the companies involved. For example, when Sony laid off about 900 employees earlier this year, it hit around 7.5% of their PlayStation workforce (which is roughly 12,000 people). Microsoft’s Gaming division, on the other hand, has about 22,000 employees, so their recent layoff of around 1,900 people in early 2024 was closer to 8-9%, and their July 2025 cuts brought the total well past 4,000 across multiple waves.
So while percentages matter, the raw numbers and frequency at Microsoft make it feel much more aggressive. And unfortunately, I get the feeling this won’t be the last round for either company. Between free-to-play pressure, Games-as-a-Service struggles, Game Pass sustainability questions, ballooning dev budgets, and uneven sales, something is clearly broken. The layoffs and studio closures are getting hard to keep track of…
@Fiendish-Beaver I thought subscriber numbers have been going up this year? There has been price hikes across the entire market so that is why I wouldn’t say it’s indicative of sustainability as much as just rising costs. I mean even Netflix has pretty regular price hikes and they are definitely not struggling, but rising costs will always get passed onto the consumer.
@Fiendish-Beaver Gamepass price raises I don’t think are indicative of how sustainable it is that’s just rising costs to market, I believe.
Now your second point nails what I think to be true. There is also the point that if Gamepass is doing enough to stay alive it’s cutting into software sales on their own ecosystem, which is a loss. There is also the loss of hardware sales. So really are the financial pluses of Gamepass offsetting those loses? Nobody knows because numbers are never released publicly or at least not that I have seen.
Xbox owns a lot of my favorite franchises. It’s pretty brutal to see all this happening and I’m hoping they can pull out of this somehow. Whether that is through their current strategy or scrapping Gamepass altogether, but I think they are way too invested to just scrap it and that may lead to even more layoffs and cancellations. The $80 price tag on The Outer Worlds 2 is not going to help.
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (September 13-14)
Borderlands 4 all weekend!!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (September 6-7)
Helldivers 2 and Metal Eden!
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Borderlands 4 Next Week?
Hell yea I am! Preordered, installed and ready to go! I absolutely love Borderlands. My crew is ready to go vault hunting!
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Bloober Team's Cronos: The New Dawn
I went with Metal Eden first. Borderlands 4 next week…. Cronos might be months away for me with the release slate coming
Re: Deadzone: Rogue Brings Its Co-Op Roguelite FPS To Xbox This Week
@FraserG I fear it’s going to get lost in the shuffle of larger titles being released this week. I just nabbed it because I do love those devs, Ruiner was fantastic.
Re: Xbox & PlayStation's New Social Media Ads Make Fans Question Whether 'Console War' Is Over
@TrollOfWar I love your profile image!
Re: Deadzone: Rogue Brings Its Co-Op Roguelite FPS To Xbox This Week
@FraserG will you guys be reviewing Metal Eden?
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In September 2025
Are you guys going to have reviews for Cronos and Metal Eden and if so when will those be live?
Re: Talking Point: Are You Looking Forward To This Week's Big Xbox X PlayStation Crossover?
What an awesome day. Gears on PS5, Helldivers 2 on Xbox and with a Halo warbond.
Re: Talking Point: Has This Week's ROG Xbox Ally News Sold You On The New Handheld?
I am mostly convinced. Just need an official price
Re: Helldivers 2: Release Date, Release Times & Crossplay Details On Xbox
@Scummbuddy can’t pre install it but can pre load that little place holder that makes it install immediately when it’s available, maybe that is what they are talking about? I did the same.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade Gamescom Opening Night Live 2025?
I thought the show was boring. Like spending 10 minutes talking about Chocobos coming to Monster Hunter…. Coooooooool. 😴 😴 😴
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (August 16-17)
I am playing Alien Rogue Incursion this weekend. Pretty sweet game. Nailed the Alien feel in VR. And fitting in some rounds of BF6 in of course
Re: Poll: Should The Next Xbox Controller Support AA Batteries Again?
For long gaming nights it optimal.
Re: Gears Of War: Reloaded Full Achievement List Revealed Ahead Of Xbox Series X|S Launch
So the achievement progress from the last Gears doesn’t transfer over? Cause I am always down for more Gears achievements
Re: Xbox Announces Big List Of Games For Its Two Gamescom Broadcasts Next Week
If they do have some surprise show ups I am hoping for E-Day and State of Decay 3 gameplay.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying Black Myth: Wukong On Xbox Next Week?
Bored with Souls Likes.
Re: Three Games Announced In 24 Hours As GameMill Unveils New Lineup Of Xbox Releases
@Ricky-Spanish my kids do. My youngest loves The Snoopy Show on Apple TV
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Hoping To See At Gamescom 2025?
That State of Decay 3 is actually going to release
Re: Xbox Is Officially 'Stopping' Development On First-Party Game Contraband
That is disappointing. I know much wasn’t released about the game but I was interested in this game and that Zenimax co-op shooter. I just love co-op shooters in general so, this news sucks.
Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Addition In July 2025?
Grounded 2 and Abiotic Factor are absolute bangers
Re: Opinion: This Month On Xbox Is Stacked, Including A Few First-Party Treats
Buying Helldivers 2 again for Xbox so I can finally gameshare it with the wife. Love Helldivers 2 and hope the Xbox community supports it!
Re: Grounded 2 Early Access Impressions Are In Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Launch
@Fiendish-Beaver the first one is one of my favorite survival games ever. It’s great. I am playing Abiotic Factor right now on Gamepass as well and it’s great as well. Nice surprise game that was never on my radar.
Re: Xbox Announces Gamescom Livestream Schedule For August 2025
Release dates for Gears E-Day, State of Decay 3 and Clockwork Eevolution would be nice.
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (July 28-August 1)
Excited to jump into Grounded 2. Even though I just started up a server on Abiotic Factor, another Gamepass game I highly recommend, game is a ton of fun. And I have been delving into Killing Floor 3. Too many great co op games coming out. Still haven’t been able to give Wildgate or Holdfast a go yet. 😅
Re: Talking Point: What Would You Like To See Ubisoft Do With 'Ghost Recon' On Xbox?
I enjoyed both Breakpoint and Wildlands. Really want that new Division though.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Say About Wuchang: Fallen Feathers On Xbox Game Pass
@Fiendish-Beaver man I can’t imagine playing games that way. I tried out Expedition 33 because everybody was praising it and thought it was boring, I struggled to get through Act 1 trying to find out what the big deal on the game was. Meanwhile last night I just had a blast playing Killing Floor 3 for 4 hrs straight with my buddies. Another one I will throw on there is Death Stranding, absolute borefest for me, but seems to be getting praised everywhere. I already have Painkiller, Borderlands 4 and Outer Worlds 2 preordered because those game I know I will love regardless of what the internet will try to tell me.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Say About Wuchang: Fallen Feathers On Xbox Game Pass
@Fiendish-Beaver I do not agree. I have a style of games that I absolutely adore. I take Fallout 76 as a prime example I love the game and it reviewed very poorly. That’s why I tell people if a game looks like fun to you don’t let anybody tell you to dislike it. It’s actually a big reason a lot of these games are failing, people and media dissuade others from playing games now.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Say About Wuchang: Fallen Feathers On Xbox Game Pass
@Fiendish-Beaver people letting others choose what games they should play is crazy. If a game looks interesting and appeals to you you should play it. People give review sites and streamers too much power over their own decisions. It’s pretty crazy.
Re: No Rest For The Wicked May Skip Xbox 'For The Time Being' Due To 'Current Market Conditions'
Xbox converting to PC can’t come fast enough. Crazy how people just don’t seem to buy games anymore on Xbox. Gamepass has completely taken over the ecosystem.
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (July 21-25)
Great week for me. Killing Floor 3 and WuChang plus I’m still making my way through Donkey Kong. 😅
Re: Poll: Which Of Xbox's Fall 2025 Games Are You Most Excited About?
I love Ninja Gaiden, but The Outer Worlds 2 is my most anticipated fall game, well it and Borderlands 4.
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (July 14-18)
@Kaloudz not sure yet about Grounded 2 but the first one did launch in preview with Achievements, so I would imagine the second would.
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (July 14-18)
@Kaloudz end of the month is going to be great. Grounded 2, WuChang on Gamepass and I’m grabbing Killing Floor 3 as well. Should be some really good gaming.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 12-13)
Finally got some time today to put more time into Expedition 33. Great game!
Re: Gaming Subscriptions Reach 'All-Time High' But Xbox Series X|S Sales Suffer In May 2025 Analysis (US)
@PsBoxSwitchOwner It probably fluctuates by month depending on how many are paying every month or three months. I think you can still buy 12 months of Core, I dunno. But I’m sure that makes it fluctuate
Re: Rumour: Xbox Has Multiple Fallout Projects In Development, Including 'One You're All Wanting'
Hopefully the Fallout 3 UE5 rumors are true. Worked great for Oblivion and FO3 could use some love while we wait for FO5 in the year 2035
Re: Is Xbox Game Pass Unsustainable? Arkane Founder Sparks Huge Debate On Social Media
@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah, a lot of what’s happening still feels speculative, but there are some clear industry-wide trends at play. Rising development costs, bloated budgets, and shifting business models are creating a kind of perfect storm for game publishers. I try to keep context in mind, like comparing the size of the companies involved. For example, when Sony laid off about 900 employees earlier this year, it hit around 7.5% of their PlayStation workforce (which is roughly 12,000 people). Microsoft’s Gaming division, on the other hand, has about 22,000 employees, so their recent layoff of around 1,900 people in early 2024 was closer to 8-9%, and their July 2025 cuts brought the total well past 4,000 across multiple waves.
So while percentages matter, the raw numbers and frequency at Microsoft make it feel much more aggressive. And unfortunately, I get the feeling this won’t be the last round for either company. Between free-to-play pressure, Games-as-a-Service struggles, Game Pass sustainability questions, ballooning dev budgets, and uneven sales, something is clearly broken. The layoffs and studio closures are getting hard to keep track of…
Re: Is Xbox Game Pass Unsustainable? Arkane Founder Sparks Huge Debate On Social Media
@Fiendish-Beaver I thought subscriber numbers have been going up this year? There has been price hikes across the entire market so that is why I wouldn’t say it’s indicative of sustainability as much as just rising costs. I mean even Netflix has pretty regular price hikes and they are definitely not struggling, but rising costs will always get passed onto the consumer.
Re: Is Xbox Game Pass Unsustainable? Arkane Founder Sparks Huge Debate On Social Media
@Fiendish-Beaver Gamepass price raises I don’t think are indicative of how sustainable it is that’s just rising costs to market, I believe.
Now your second point nails what I think to be true. There is also the point that if Gamepass is doing enough to stay alive it’s cutting into software sales on their own ecosystem, which is a loss. There is also the loss of hardware sales. So really are the financial pluses of Gamepass offsetting those loses? Nobody knows because numbers are never released publicly or at least not that I have seen.
Re: Microsoft Said To Have 'Unrealistic' Expectations For Xbox, But Not Everyone Agrees
Xbox owns a lot of my favorite franchises. It’s pretty brutal to see all this happening and I’m hoping they can pull out of this somehow. Whether that is through their current strategy or scrapping Gamepass altogether, but I think they are way too invested to just scrap it and that may lead to even more layoffs and cancellations. The $80 price tag on The Outer Worlds 2 is not going to help.