@ilyn I agree. It’s like people saying Helldivers 2 isn’t Sony first party. It clearly is. Death Stranding is interesting though because 505 Games published it on Xbox and PC but Sony published it on PlayStation. That game is all over the board haha
@Banjo- yea the whole argument to me is silly. The only thing holding something back from a first party for these corporations is that they didn’t buy up even more of the industry? How about less of that and more of the encouragement for these big dollar corporations investing in independent studios.
@BAMozzy there are usually always two parties involved unless a developer is self publishing.
Those are rules that others have made up when really the same rules apply to both situations. The publishers fund the developer to create a game while feeding them resources. Doesn’t matter if they are an owned developer or not. It’s also platform specific, when Xbox games are published on their own platform it is first party. When they are not they are third party. So to Xbox, Sony and Nintendo any games they publish on their own platform are indeed first party titles. There are also games all 3 support but do not publish.
Gears has always been synonymous with Xbox. So much so that when it was announced for PS people put the stake in Xbox’s identity. To say it was not a first party title back in the 360 days is wild.
@BAMozzy from an old Gears head, yes it was always considered first party because Microsoft/Xbox helped build it from the ground up without owning the studio. But I will say I am glad you put “that’s not first party to me” because it’s recognizing all the silly rules that you have created for somebody else’s product.
@Balaam_ I disagree with this. Publishers invest in games no different from developers they own. NG4 and Bayonetta are great examples, Platinum did both of these and talks about working closely with both Nintendo and Xbox for those games. Publishers funnel money, resources and staff for these games. Even Gears of War 1-3 was by non owned Xbox studio Epic and that was considered their second strongest first party titles next to Halo.
@Fiendish-Beaver it’s just more how the comment is structured. Generally people will low ball things they don’t like to make it seem more negative than it really is. This is also done in the reverse. But a simple search has the number at 22 million in 2022 which surely that has grown but even going off that number a 45% increase would be a 9 million increase which is good growth based on 3 year old data.
All my long time running games are getting big updates next month (Fallout 76, Destiny 2, Helldivers 2 and Borderlands 4) so lots of fun to be had for me next month. But I do want to check out Routine.
@Fiendish-Beaver it’s pretty negative to set a low figure as an example especially when you know that figure is far off from the truth. And I’m not saying that to be mean, I know you are a good guy but that comment can come off a bit negative. It would be nice to get the actual figures just to see how much streaming has grown even to see how well PS is doing now that the portal has cloud streaming now. I’m more interested in how large it has grown overall rather than just Xbox.
@Fiendish-Beaver streaming games is becoming more and more popular now because it’s getting a lot better and I think the push for handhelds is helping as well.
So many great memories with Destiny. I may go back for Renegades, it looks pretty neat but sadly everybody I played with is gone so it won’t be the same
@Jark Overwatch won once way back in 2016. That is almost a decade ago and the backlash that ensued from that will probably make sure it never happens again.
South of Midnight was solid. But I think out of the XGS games Doom The Dark Ages and The Outer Worlds 2 are far superior. Loved those games and definitely top my top of 2025 games. Also Arc Raiders getting snubbed, but that is expected because solely MP games always do, much like Helldivers 2 last year.
There are a few PC games I would love to see finally come to Xbox. Namely Witchfire, Ripout and Nightingale. Or even a solid release date on Once Human. That Xbox/PC hybrid console can’t come soon enough 😅
@Fiendish-Beaver I could see them porting more games over in the future. Especially if the next Xbox is just going to be a PC hybrid that runs their games anyways. What would even be the point of keeping their games off a platform that would already have access. As of right now I don’t see Sony porting more games over though but the future is going to be shaped very, very differently. We are already starting to see it take shape with the ROG Ally and the Steam Machine.
It’s intriguing but I want my Xbox library and Gamepass so waiting it out to see what Xbox announces. Hopefully this speeds up Xbox’s announcement plans.
@Tasuki I have loved every Borderlands game, definitely one of the best franchises going. Borderlands 3 is really good, even with the weaker main villians. Borderlands 4 I just finished the main campaign on and loved it. Still have lots to go back and do. Are you going to play through the Pre sequel or Wonderlands? Both of those are fun side games as well. Even Tales From the Borderlands I enjoyed.
Really looking forward to the new update on Fallout 76 and hopefully an update on Starfield DLC next year. If the Fallout 3 remake rumors are true that would be great as well.
@brettvsgodzilla we just finished our first 3 hrs into Voidtrain and we are really liking it. We haven’t unlocked much but have done a few outposts and areas. The revolver you get at the beginning is definitely not the greatest but we just built our armory so hopefully get some new guns going on our next outing. Cool premise, adds their own twist to the whole survival/crafting genre.
Well, rather than be all doom and gloom like others. I am excited for the next MP Halo game. I enjoyed a lot of time with Infinite, it wasn’t perfect especially with getting stuff out in time but they picked it up the last couple years after getting Bonnie and crew out. Onto the next!
It’s crazy seeing some people meltdown over on PushSquare over this. Like it’s going to kill Sony to have games on more platforms. People are still going to buy PlayStations especially if they are already locked into the ecosystem and it sounds like it will be much cheaper than the next Xbox/PC hybrid. If anything I see PlayStation making more money by expanding.
@Fiendish-Beaver Wild. I’ve bought, 11 games day 1 so far this year that I can think of. I’ve played through them all or am still actively playing them. This month I got nothing to buy though, December is Metroid Prime 4 though. I have so many games on backlog on Gamepass alone I going to try to refrain from buying games as much as possible for the next couple months.
@Fishmasterflex96 yea, I very rarely agree with all these different award shows, ceremonies or whatever they call them. Same goes for other media like movies, shows and music. But it is nice to see Indy make the list, I played it late last year and loved it.
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Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
@ilyn I agree. It’s like people saying Helldivers 2 isn’t Sony first party. It clearly is. Death Stranding is interesting though because 505 Games published it on Xbox and PC but Sony published it on PlayStation. That game is all over the board haha
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
@Banjo- yea the whole argument to me is silly. The only thing holding something back from a first party for these corporations is that they didn’t buy up even more of the industry? How about less of that and more of the encouragement for these big dollar corporations investing in independent studios.
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
@BAMozzy there are usually always two parties involved unless a developer is self publishing.
Those are rules that others have made up when really the same rules apply to both situations. The publishers fund the developer to create a game while feeding them resources. Doesn’t matter if they are an owned developer or not. It’s also platform specific, when Xbox games are published on their own platform it is first party. When they are not they are third party. So to Xbox, Sony and Nintendo any games they publish on their own platform are indeed first party titles. There are also games all 3 support but do not publish.
Gears has always been synonymous with Xbox. So much so that when it was announced for PS people put the stake in Xbox’s identity. To say it was not a first party title back in the 360 days is wild.
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
@BAMozzy from an old Gears head, yes it was always considered first party because Microsoft/Xbox helped build it from the ground up without owning the studio. But I will say I am glad you put “that’s not first party to me” because it’s recognizing all the silly rules that you have created for somebody else’s product.
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
@Balaam_ I disagree with this. Publishers invest in games no different from developers they own. NG4 and Bayonetta are great examples, Platinum did both of these and talks about working closely with both Nintendo and Xbox for those games. Publishers funnel money, resources and staff for these games. Even Gears of War 1-3 was by non owned Xbox studio Epic and that was considered their second strongest first party titles next to Halo.
Re: Need A Reason To Play Fallout 76 Again? It's Just Released A Massive New Update
It’s great when the servers are working. But I dig it so far.
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
I’ve given up on caring about any of these stupid awards or top lists.
Re: Xbox Says Cloud Gaming Is Up 45% With Game Pass & Console Users In 2025
@Fiendish-Beaver it’s just more how the comment is structured. Generally people will low ball things they don’t like to make it seem more negative than it really is. This is also done in the reverse. But a simple search has the number at 22 million in 2022 which surely that has grown but even going off that number a 45% increase would be a 9 million increase which is good growth based on 3 year old data.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In December 2025
All my long time running games are getting big updates next month (Fallout 76, Destiny 2, Helldivers 2 and Borderlands 4) so lots of fun to be had for me next month. But I do want to check out Routine.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Looking Forward To Any December Xbox Releases As 2025 Wraps Up?
Maybe Routine. Looks good.
Re: Xbox Says Cloud Gaming Is Up 45% With Game Pass & Console Users In 2025
@Fiendish-Beaver it’s pretty negative to set a low figure as an example especially when you know that figure is far off from the truth. And I’m not saying that to be mean, I know you are a good guy but that comment can come off a bit negative. It would be nice to get the actual figures just to see how much streaming has grown even to see how well PS is doing now that the portal has cloud streaming now. I’m more interested in how large it has grown overall rather than just Xbox.
Re: Xbox Says Cloud Gaming Is Up 45% With Game Pass & Console Users In 2025
@Fiendish-Beaver streaming games is becoming more and more popular now because it’s getting a lot better and I think the push for handhelds is helping as well.
Re: Destiny 3 Is Apparently In 'Extremely Early Development', Should Still Launch On Xbox
So many great memories with Destiny. I may go back for Renegades, it looks pretty neat but sadly everybody I played with is gone so it won’t be the same
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
I would love for some sort of Condemned resurrection.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 22-23)
Arc Raiders. I am addicted!
Re: This Xbox Game Studios Adventure Deserved More Nominations At The Game Awards 2025
@Jark Overwatch won once way back in 2016. That is almost a decade ago and the backlash that ensued from that will probably make sure it never happens again.
Re: Roundup: All The Reveals From 2025's Xbox Partner Preview Showcase
Total Chaos, Armatus, Reanimal and The Mound were standouts for me. Was already set on 007 and Zoopunk looks interesting. Some good stuff!
Re: Xbox Shadow Drops Two Game Pass Titles At The November 2025 Partner Preview
Got Total Chaos installed and ready for tonight! Looks like a good time!
Re: This Xbox Game Studios Adventure Deserved More Nominations At The Game Awards 2025
South of Midnight was solid. But I think out of the XGS games Doom The Dark Ages and The Outer Worlds 2 are far superior. Loved those games and definitely top my top of 2025 games. Also Arc Raiders getting snubbed, but that is expected because solely MP games always do, much like Helldivers 2 last year.
Re: 16 Xbox Reveals Teased For Thursday's Partner Preview Showcase
There are a few PC games I would love to see finally come to Xbox. Namely Witchfire, Ripout and Nightingale. Or even a solid release date on Once Human. That Xbox/PC hybrid console can’t come soon enough 😅
Re: Deals: Xbox Black Friday Sale 2025 Now Live, 1000+ Games Discounted
Silent Hill f is 20% off
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Actually Launch On Xbox A Year Today?
50/50 chance. I have my fingers crossed it actually releases next year but who knows at this point.
Re: Xbox Partner Preview Showcase November 2025: Date, Start Times & What To Expect
Hopefully some good Gamepass games announcements. Really think adding Wildgate to the service would help that game survive.
Re: Two Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In December 2025 So Far
Routine looks really good!
Re: Helldivers 2 On Xbox Helped Us 'Give The Players What They Want', Says Arrowhead CEO
@Fiendish-Beaver I could see them porting more games over in the future. Especially if the next Xbox is just going to be a PC hybrid that runs their games anyways. What would even be the point of keeping their games off a platform that would already have access. As of right now I don’t see Sony porting more games over though but the future is going to be shaped very, very differently. We are already starting to see it take shape with the ROG Ally and the Steam Machine.
Re: Helldivers 2 On Xbox Helped Us 'Give The Players What They Want', Says Arrowhead CEO
Love Helldivers and love seeing how big it has become. Arrowhead are such great devs as well.
Re: Talking Point: What Does The 'Steam Machine' Mean For Xbox's Next-Gen Console Plans?
It’s intriguing but I want my Xbox library and Gamepass so waiting it out to see what Xbox announces. Hopefully this speeds up Xbox’s announcement plans.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From November 2025's State Of Play
I reaaaalllllly try my best to be positive, but was this show really necessary?
Re: Poll: Now That The Dust Has Settled, Which Xbox Game Pass Tier Are You Subscribed To?
Still on Ultimate. I still get a lot of value out of it even when I have to start paying $30, which will be months from now.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Boss: Xbox Isn't 'Directly' Competing Anymore, But There'll Always Be A War
“War” 🙄. In much better news I finished my first playthrough of The Outer Worlds 2, loved it. 👍
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 8-9)
@Tasuki I have loved every Borderlands game, definitely one of the best franchises going. Borderlands 3 is really good, even with the weaker main villians. Borderlands 4 I just finished the main campaign on and loved it. Still have lots to go back and do. Are you going to play through the Pre sequel or Wonderlands? Both of those are fun side games as well. Even Tales From the Borderlands I enjoyed.
Re: CD Projekt RED Reminds GTA 6 Team Of Mistakes Made With Cyberpunk 2077 Launch
I wonder if Rockstar is finding out that their game is not going to run well on current gen consoles, much like CP2077 did with Xbox One and PS4.
Re: Todd Howard Talks Progress On Elder Scrolls 6 And Teases 'Other Things We're Doing'
Really looking forward to the new update on Fallout 76 and hopefully an update on Starfield DLC next year. If the Fallout 3 remake rumors are true that would be great as well.
Re: These 50+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (November 10-14)
50+ games in a week. People wonder why so many games flop, the market is totally over saturated.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 8-9)
@brettvsgodzilla we just finished our first 3 hrs into Voidtrain and we are really liking it. We haven’t unlocked much but have done a few outposts and areas. The revolver you get at the beginning is definitely not the greatest but we just built our armory so hopefully get some new guns going on our next outing. Cool premise, adds their own twist to the whole survival/crafting genre.
Re: Xbox Store Accidentally Leaks November Release Date For Silent Hill 2
@Weebleman yea headphones, late at night. Was one of my favorite games of 2024.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 8-9)
@Tasuki I love Borderlands and really all the DLCs for the games are very solid! Happy to see others enjoying the franchise
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 8-9)
Oh and Voidtrain dropped this weekend so probably try that one out
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 8-9)
The Outer Worlds 2 and some Arc Raiders
Re: Halo Infinite's Final Major Content Update Arrives This Month
Well, rather than be all doom and gloom like others. I am excited for the next MP Halo game. I enjoyed a lot of time with Infinite, it wasn’t perfect especially with getting stuff out in time but they picked it up the last couple years after getting Bonnie and crew out. Onto the next!
Re: It's Official, Rockstar Games Has Delayed GTA 6 To November 2026
As long as Gears doesn’t get delayed!!!
Re: Talking Point: Exactly 13 Years Later, How Are You Feeling About Halo 4 These Days?
There has never been a bad Halo game. Halo 4, for me, was a solid 10/10.
Re: 20+ Games Are Already Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In 2026
I am so damn excited for a new Gears next year! Been way too long of a wait. Hopefully Gears 6 isn’t far behind E-Day!
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think Xbox's Release Schedule Looks Like For 2026?
I have a bold prediction for their release schedule next year.
Halo Campaign Evolved - March/April
Forza Horizon 6 - May/June
Clockwork Revolution - September
State of Decay 3 - September/October
Fable - October/November
Call of Duty - October/ November
Gears E-Day - November/December
If they can make that happen I would be a very happy camper.
Re: Sony May Be Preparing Its Own Version Of Xbox Play Anywhere For PS5 & PC
It’s crazy seeing some people meltdown over on PushSquare over this. Like it’s going to kill Sony to have games on more platforms. People are still going to buy PlayStations especially if they are already locked into the ecosystem and it sounds like it will be much cheaper than the next Xbox/PC hybrid. If anything I see PlayStation making more money by expanding.
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (November 4)
@Fiendish-Beaver Wild. I’ve bought, 11 games day 1 so far this year that I can think of. I’ve played through them all or am still actively playing them. This month I got nothing to buy though, December is Metroid Prime 4 though. I have so many games on backlog on Gamepass alone I going to try to refrain from buying games as much as possible for the next couple months.
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (November 4)
@Fiendish-Beaver and here I was thinking I had a problem. 😅😅
Re: Xbox Gets One Nomination For 'Ultimate Game Of The Year' At Golden Joysticks 2025
@Fishmasterflex96 yea, I very rarely agree with all these different award shows, ceremonies or whatever they call them. Same goes for other media like movies, shows and music. But it is nice to see Indy make the list, I played it late last year and loved it.
Re: Xbox Gets One Nomination For 'Ultimate Game Of The Year' At Golden Joysticks 2025
Out of all of those I would give it to Indy. Wish Doom The Dark Ages or The Outer Worlds 2 would have made the list though.
Re: Xbox 360 Classic 'Condemned' Has Quietly Been Delisted, And Nobody Knows Why
Oh man I would be very, very excited to see Condemned come back! Those games were fantastic.