Microsoft and Sony are gonna have a tough time selling their next consoles considering most games are still getting XBO and PS4 versions, and there's only a handful of the ones only on Current Gen that people even like. Quality of life features and slightly better specs can only do so much when nothing takes advantage of it.
Dropped the Campaign really quickly, as while I love the gunplay of older Shooters, I hate the Levels being puzzles to some degree on what to do or where to go to extend the gameplay. Multiplayer is super fun though when you can get someone in the same room to do it.
Rhythm Games are much more niche than even other niche Genres. And sadly, an Xbox-exclusive Indie that isn't on Game Pass just isn't going to get any attention, and that's an Xbox-made issue. If it was only on Switch or only PlayStation, it would be less obscure by default comparatively.
I won't be in a hurry to buy them either way. As much I love 3 & New Vegas, Remakes will have new bugs and I doubt they'll fix any pre-existing ones, so a new coat of paint will not be worth the price tag.
I don't think this will be a good first impression for the PS players. I hope it turns out well, but there's too many questionable choices being made, and that's just from what they've been open about.
Probably gonna be a bigger reveal for PlayStation than Xbox at this point, but hopefully news of an Activision game new or old being released. Hasbro seemed eager to talk terms for re-licensing the Activision Transformers games since they have modern toylines now, but at this point Microsoft doing anything with Activision other than using CoD to bump up the price of Game Pass seems like delusion.
My gaming was all over the place this year. Up until MultiVersus got shutdown it was primarily Xbox until then (although I don't think I bought any games), Summer was mostly Xbox and Switch 1/2 (but not Switch 2 games, barely played MK World), and since October Dailies excluded it's almost all been PS5 since I've decided that'll be my Platform for Third-Party games going forward.
I feel like if you haven't tried 76 at this point, you never will. Least of all for an update regarding a show that was popular with people that don't play the games.
The fact that it was done through AI makes me wonder if Microsoft actually would care, as AI is pretty stupid, and Halo 3 multiplayer is not exactly booming in 2025.
I'm not sure anything new Microsoft does could appeal to me personally. I'll be waiting for the Remasters of licensed Activision games if they ever happen.
My interest in this will entirely depend on the price and if there's Crossplay for the Co-op, because I know a lot of people who will be getting this, but not on the same Platforms. While QoL changes that the series got over time along with changes to CE itself (we've seen Pure Form Flood added, which will certainly make the Library different for better or worse) are really cool, at the end of the day, it's CE again, and I'd rather wait for a sale if I can't play it with friends.
See games like this in that $20 range make way more sense for a Promotion like this since the sale prices aren't too different unless they're really old. Like why would I buy 1 full priced Lego game to get 1 free, when I could buy 5 or so Lego games with all the DLC on sale for less than or equal to the full price of the 1 game?
@OldGamer999 "Just make new top end AAA games critically acclaimed and they will sell."
Well you see, that's hard to do when most companies fired all the best devs, writers, and ideas people they had to cut corners financially, among other stupid reasons, thinking that just the brands themselves would be enough to sell. And since they can't make good gameplay or stories now, that's how you get these ballooned development times and budgets with a lot of inexperienced people just making something that looks good, but isn't actually a good game. This is why people would rather buy Assassin's Creed Black Flag a third time than try any of the 3 most recent Assassin's Creed games.
The exciting plans are to keep increasing the price of Game Pass until only the hardcore fans who will never leave are funding it completely, which they will do no matter how bad things for Xbox get and how poorly they are treated.
@Kieduss Mhhh, and can you explain how searching random people, places, and things isn't 'random ****', but searching movies, games, anime, manga, & their characters is to get me suspended?
I haven't been able to use my Points in months, because if you don't search exactly in the specific way Microsoft wants you to, you get flagged as a bot and there's no guaranteed way to fix it. Would love to use it for the Black Friday Sale, but oh well.
Nothing from Xbox, PlayStation, or Switch 2's official sales. Saw a lot of stuff I wanted, nothing that I can't wait on with the current backlog though. I did get 4 AAA Nintendo games for half price from Target though.
@Banjo- The real sales from Nintendo AAA games are always from places like Best Buy or Walmart. Got TOTK for $30 the year after launch which was a steal even by non-Nintendo standards.
Think the only thing that really popped up on my price tracker is Ninja Gaiden 2 for $15, but that's a normal sale price for it and I'm not gonna pretend I'm looking for many games on Xbox anymore.
@HeavyHoggJP Beat 'Em Ups have always generally been games that are meant for repeat playthroughs, with newer ones usually because the characters play pretty differently.
Remember Mighty DOOM? It was a good mobile game. Didn't even last a full year. I have no doubt Microsoft will can it if it doesn't meet their ridiculous expectations.
The few people I know with an Xbox either cancelled or downgraded all the way to Essential. Even if you only own an Xbox and aren't buying games on other Platforms, between the price hikes and limited time in a day, I'd still think it's not worth it.
I can't really think of an Xbox release other than Starfield (and that turned out to be a dud for me personally) that I had interest in since the early XBO years, that wasn't a port or remake of a 360 or OG Xbox game. Even for games where I'd be willing to buy on all Platforms, Xbox would probably be the last one, and only after a big sale.
@dskatter The MCC would sell well, but from a business perspective it'd be hard to price it accordingly. You can't charge $50+ for a decade game with no changes, but you also can't price it too low because it just has that much content. I can see the logic of remaking each game in order of release at a lower price to get them out there that way, but the lack of multiplayer will also make those hard sells, and not really show off what Halo is/was properly.
I'll probably get it again after a hefty sale and play through it and the official, non-Trophy/Achievement-disabling Creation Club stuff on PS5. Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game, but a good game as a Starfield prototype. Sadly the prototype was better than Starfield itself, I'm still shocked by how much they removed to make it such a bland experience comparatively.
I love the Series X's features, but it's by far the glitchiest console I've ever owned. Just randomly ending my game sessions and sending me to the home screen more than my 360 ever locked up with three times the usage, and at one point I needed to factory reset it because the Home Menu of all things broke.
"With multiple Halo titles in development", all but one of which I'm sure are boneless versions of Bungies Titles getting ports to PS5 like Campaign Evolved.
If they're attempting to sell it as a Xbox PC hybrid they'd be shooting themselves in the foot to not make it free online. Guess even Microsoft has enough common sense for that.
So then surely they won't charge full price for a version with less content, right? And sure since the Co-op is so important, it'll have Crossplay as an option, right??
Price is gonna be a big factor with no Multiplayer. CE Anniversary didn't have it either, but that was a $40 game, and even then it came with a DLC Pack for Reach's Multiplayer. Even if it's $50, they just released Gears 1 with the Campaign and Multiplayer for $40. So IDK how they're gonna market this.
Unless this is going to be a Remake that's barely comparable to the original like FF7, this sounds like a horrible idea, as you're not appealing to the people who like Bungies' games and just offering another Modern FPS to people on other Platforms. Which is insane, because CE has so much you can tweak and work with before even considering such things.
@hisownsidekick I mean almost none of the original staff work there - it's 'Bungie' in name only like a lot of companies are now. Hard to call it a fall when it's more like a discarded shell being propped up by a new owner.
I'm not sure just Halo CE in 2025/2026 would do that well, as it's pretty limited compared to later games in terms of content. I guess if it's also $40 like Gears that'd be one thing, but there's just so much they could add, and for what used to be a massive IP, you'd think they really wanna show off content in later and modern games like Firefight.
I think people are just fatigued of long running IPs in general, and it's just yet another reason people have been caring more about Indies & AA games. It's not only the same ideas again and again, but of lower quality than the ones people remember fondly.
Not buying this, but I have and will be buying more new games this year than any in a long, long time. Bought Sonic Racing Crossworlds, Slime Rancher 2 (finally leaving Early Access), & Digimon Story Time Stranger, and play on buying Powerwash Sim 2, Marvel Cosmic Invasion, & the He-Man Beat 'Em Up when we get release dates for those.
Series X and PS5 have been massive disappointments. I can't imagine anyone buying one or the other at these prices unless their XBO X or PS4 Pro randomly dies. And even then, they might just be happier with the $600.
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Re: Rumour: New Xbox Console Won't Release Until At Least Late 2027, Could Be Delayed Further
Microsoft and Sony are gonna have a tough time selling their next consoles considering most games are still getting XBO and PS4 versions, and there's only a handful of the ones only on Current Gen that people even like. Quality of life features and slightly better specs can only do so much when nothing takes advantage of it.
Re: Talking Point: Three Years Later, What Do You Think Of The GoldenEye 007 Port For Xbox?
Dropped the Campaign really quickly, as while I love the gunplay of older Shooters, I hate the Levels being puzzles to some degree on what to do or where to go to extend the gameplay. Multiplayer is super fun though when you can get someone in the same room to do it.
Re: Talking Point: Will The Next Xbox Console Be Revealed In 2026?
Hopefully not, I still I don't feel like I've gotten value out of my Series X or PS5.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Highguard, Out Now On Xbox
"It's Apex Legends without any of the stuff that makes Apex Legends good," was a pretty accurate description.
Re: Why Is Nobody Talking About One Of The Best Xbox Exclusives Of 2025?
Rhythm Games are much more niche than even other niche Genres. And sadly, an Xbox-exclusive Indie that isn't on Game Pass just isn't going to get any attention, and that's an Xbox-made issue. If it was only on Switch or only PlayStation, it would be less obscure by default comparatively.
Re: Xbox Studios Boss Shares Update On Progress For State Of Decay 3
State of Delay: 3+ Years
Re: Xbox Reporter Says Bethesda's Fallout 3 & New Vegas Remasters 'Aren't Imminent'
I won't be in a hurry to buy them either way. As much I love 3 & New Vegas, Remakes will have new bugs and I doubt they'll fix any pre-existing ones, so a new coat of paint will not be worth the price tag.
Re: Halo Studios Admits That The Series Needs A Bigger Playerbase As PS5 Community Awaits
I don't think this will be a good first impression for the PS players. I hope it turns out well, but there's too many questionable choices being made, and that's just from what they've been open about.
Re: Xbox Developer Direct Has Always Had A Surprise, But What About January 2026's Showcase?
Probably gonna be a bigger reveal for PlayStation than Xbox at this point, but hopefully news of an Activision game new or old being released. Hasbro seemed eager to talk terms for re-licensing the Activision Transformers games since they have modern toylines now, but at this point Microsoft doing anything with Activision other than using CoD to bump up the price of Game Pass seems like delusion.
Re: YouTuber Thinks They've Found More Evidence Of Xbox Making A New Spyro Game
Don't typically enjoy Platformers, but if they do make a new one, I hope it is good for all the people who do want it.
Re: Poll: How Many Xbox Games Have You Actually Bought In 2025?
Define 'bought', because I did get games... just with Rewards Points...
Re: Talking Point: How Much Time Have You Spent Gaming On Xbox Consoles This Year?
My gaming was all over the place this year. Up until MultiVersus got shutdown it was primarily Xbox until then (although I don't think I bought any games), Summer was mostly Xbox and Switch 1/2 (but not Switch 2 games, barely played MK World), and since October Dailies excluded it's almost all been PS5 since I've decided that'll be my Platform for Third-Party games going forward.
Re: Bethesda Drops Two Fallout Free Trials Alongside New Xbox Dynamic Background
I feel like if you haven't tried 76 at this point, you never will. Least of all for an update regarding a show that was popular with people that don't play the games.
Re: Microsoft Forces Removal Of Halo Multiplayer Mod In Counter-Strike 2
The fact that it was done through AI makes me wonder if Microsoft actually would care, as AI is pretty stupid, and Halo 3 multiplayer is not exactly booming in 2025.
Re: Xbox Announces Developer Direct Showcase For January, Teases 'A Lot' Of Game Releases In 2026
I'm not sure anything new Microsoft does could appeal to me personally. I'll be waiting for the Remasters of licensed Activision games if they ever happen.
Re: PlayStation Highlights Halo: Campaign Evolved As One Of Its 'Must-Play' Games For 2026
My interest in this will entirely depend on the price and if there's Crossplay for the Co-op, because I know a lot of people who will be getting this, but not on the same Platforms. While QoL changes that the series got over time along with changes to CE itself (we've seen Pure Form Flood added, which will certainly make the Library different for better or worse) are really cool, at the end of the day, it's CE again, and I'd rather wait for a sale if I can't play it with friends.
Re: Xbox's New Buy One, Get One Free Sale Includes A Selection Of Indie Titles
See games like this in that $20 range make way more sense for a Promotion like this since the sale prices aren't too different unless they're really old. Like why would I buy 1 full priced Lego game to get 1 free, when I could buy 5 or so Lego games with all the DLC on sale for less than or equal to the full price of the 1 game?
Re: Bethesda Boss Hints At Fallout Remasters, Says The Team Is 'Working On A Bunch Of Stuff'
@OldGamer999 "Just make new top end AAA games critically acclaimed and they will sell."
Well you see, that's hard to do when most companies fired all the best devs, writers, and ideas people they had to cut corners financially, among other stupid reasons, thinking that just the brands themselves would be enough to sell. And since they can't make good gameplay or stories now, that's how you get these ballooned development times and budgets with a lot of inexperienced people just making something that looks good, but isn't actually a good game. This is why people would rather buy Assassin's Creed Black Flag a third time than try any of the 3 most recent Assassin's Creed games.
Re: Xbox Exec Teases 'Exciting' Plans For 2026 When Asked About OG Xbox Titles & Game Pass
The exciting plans are to keep increasing the price of Game Pass until only the hardcore fans who will never leave are funding it completely, which they will do no matter how bad things for Xbox get and how poorly they are treated.
Re: Netflix Is Buying Warner Bros. For Even More Money Than Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal
One incompetent company buys another.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Is Allowing You To 'Double Your Points' Until Early December
@Kieduss Mhhh, and can you explain how searching random people, places, and things isn't 'random ****', but searching movies, games, anime, manga, & their characters is to get me suspended?
Re: Microsoft Rewards Is Allowing You To 'Double Your Points' Until Early December
I haven't been able to use my Points in months, because if you don't search exactly in the specific way Microsoft wants you to, you get flagged as a bot and there's no guaranteed way to fix it. Would love to use it for the Black Friday Sale, but oh well.
Re: Talking Point: What Have You Bought In The Xbox Black Friday Sale 2025 So Far?
Nothing from Xbox, PlayStation, or Switch 2's official sales. Saw a lot of stuff I wanted, nothing that I can't wait on with the current backlog though. I did get 4 AAA Nintendo games for half price from Target though.
Re: Deals: Xbox Black Friday Sale 2025 Now Live, 1000+ Games Discounted
@Banjo- The real sales from Nintendo AAA games are always from places like Best Buy or Walmart. Got TOTK for $30 the year after launch which was a steal even by non-Nintendo standards.
Re: Deals: Xbox Black Friday Sale 2025 Now Live, 1000+ Games Discounted
Think the only thing that really popped up on my price tracker is Ninja Gaiden 2 for $15, but that's a normal sale price for it and I'm not gonna pretend I'm looking for many games on Xbox anymore.
Re: Marvel Cosmic Invasion Is Suddenly A 'Day One' Xbox Game Pass Title, Arriving In December
@HeavyHoggJP Beat 'Em Ups have always generally been games that are meant for repeat playthroughs, with newer ones usually because the characters play pretty differently.
Re: Marvel Cosmic Invasion Is Suddenly A 'Day One' Xbox Game Pass Title, Arriving In December
I'd rather directly support and own the game for $25 than rent it monthly for more.
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Is Now Published By Krafton, And It's Staying On Xbox Game Pass
Wonder if that means the Switch port will be back on the table.
Re: Xbox Game Studios & Activision Are Finally Teaming Up With 'Minecraft Blast'
Remember Mighty DOOM? It was a good mobile game. Didn't even last a full year. I have no doubt Microsoft will can it if it doesn't meet their ridiculous expectations.
Re: Poll: Now That The Dust Has Settled, Which Xbox Game Pass Tier Are You Subscribed To?
The few people I know with an Xbox either cancelled or downgraded all the way to Essential. Even if you only own an Xbox and aren't buying games on other Platforms, between the price hikes and limited time in a day, I'd still think it's not worth it.
Re: Former Nintendo President 'Surprised' That Xbox Hasn't 'Fully Embraced' Switch 2
@TrevorP86 Did you not factor in the Series S, or the fact that a lot of Series X/S games even have Xbox One versions?
Re: Former Nintendo President 'Surprised' That Xbox Hasn't 'Fully Embraced' Switch 2
I can't really think of an Xbox release other than Starfield (and that turned out to be a dud for me personally) that I had interest in since the early XBO years, that wasn't a port or remake of a 360 or OG Xbox game. Even for games where I'd be willing to buy on all Platforms, Xbox would probably be the last one, and only after a big sale.
Re: Former Nintendo President 'Surprised' That Xbox Hasn't 'Fully Embraced' Switch 2
@dskatter The MCC would sell well, but from a business perspective it'd be hard to price it accordingly. You can't charge $50+ for a decade game with no changes, but you also can't price it too low because it just has that much content. I can see the logic of remaking each game in order of release at a lower price to get them out there that way, but the lack of multiplayer will also make those hard sells, and not really show off what Halo is/was properly.
Re: Fallout 4: Anniversary Edition Isn't Getting The Best Reception From Fans Right Now
I'll probably get it again after a hefty sale and play through it and the official, non-Trophy/Achievement-disabling Creation Club stuff on PS5. Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game, but a good game as a Starfield prototype. Sadly the prototype was better than Starfield itself, I'm still shocked by how much they removed to make it such a bland experience comparatively.
Re: It's A Big Birthday For The Xbox Series X, So Let's Look Back At Our Review From 2020
I love the Series X's features, but it's by far the glitchiest console I've ever owned. Just randomly ending my game sessions and sending me to the home screen more than my 360 ever locked up with three times the usage, and at one point I needed to factory reset it because the Home Menu of all things broke.
Re: Halo Infinite's Final Major Content Update Arrives This Month
"With multiple Halo titles in development", all but one of which I'm sure are boneless versions of Bungies Titles getting ports to PS5 like Campaign Evolved.
Re: Rumour: Halo 2 & 3 Remakes Are Supposedly Coming After Halo: Campaign Evolved
When they eventually get to ODST it'll be weird without Firefight and weird for Reach without Multiplayer, more so than the other games.
Re: Huge Xbox Report Details 'Ambitious' Next-Gen Console With Free Online Play
If they're attempting to sell it as a Xbox PC hybrid they'd be shooting themselves in the foot to not make it free online. Guess even Microsoft has enough common sense for that.
Re: Xbox Boss Says Forza Motorsport Isn't Dead Despite 'Scaling Back' At Turn 10 Studios
Not dead 'yet', as between the massive scaling back and demand for a 30% increase in sales, it won't make it past the next game.
Re: Halo Studios Gives Reason For Dropping PvP Multiplayer In Campaign Evolved
So then surely they won't charge full price for a version with less content, right? And sure since the Co-op is so important, it'll have Crossplay as an option, right??
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Officially Announced, Coming To Xbox In 2026
Price is gonna be a big factor with no Multiplayer. CE Anniversary didn't have it either, but that was a $40 game, and even then it came with a DLC Pack for Reach's Multiplayer. Even if it's $50, they just released Gears 1 with the Campaign and Multiplayer for $40. So IDK how they're gonna market this.
Re: Rumour: Halo Remake To Feature 'Modern Mechanics', Could Be Announced This Month
Unless this is going to be a Remake that's barely comparable to the original like FF7, this sounds like a horrible idea, as you're not appealing to the people who like Bungies' games and just offering another Modern FPS to people on other Platforms. Which is insane, because CE has so much you can tweak and work with before even considering such things.
Re: Bungie's Delayed Shooter Marathon Re-Emerges With New Xbox Playtest
@hisownsidekick I mean almost none of the original staff work there - it's 'Bungie' in name only like a lot of companies are now. Hard to call it a fall when it's more like a discarded shell being propped up by a new owner.
Re: Microsoft Set To Announce 'Free' Xbox Cloud Gaming Tier With Ads
Wouldn't use it even if it didn't have ads.
Re: Halo Reporter Thinks They've Discovered Who's Developing The Combat Evolved 'Remake'
I'm not sure just Halo CE in 2025/2026 would do that well, as it's pretty limited compared to later games in terms of content. I guess if it's also $40 like Gears that'd be one thing, but there's just so much they could add, and for what used to be a massive IP, you'd think they really wanna show off content in later and modern games like Firefight.
Re: Report: AAA The Lord Of The Rings Game In Development With Third-Person Gameplay
Finally, War in the North 2.
Re: Call Of Duty Dev Admits 'Worry' About Franchise Fatigue With Black Ops 7
I think people are just fatigued of long running IPs in general, and it's just yet another reason people have been caring more about Indies & AA games. It's not only the same ideas again and again, but of lower quality than the ones people remember fondly.
Re: Microsoft Store Tells Xbox Fans To 'Check Your Chat' For Free Money
I mean even if it's just $10 that can get you some cool stuff. Get yourself a backwards 360 game or Powerwash Sim DLC for free.
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Silent Hill F Next Week?
Not buying this, but I have and will be buying more new games this year than any in a long, long time. Bought Sonic Racing Crossworlds, Slime Rancher 2 (finally leaving Early Access), & Digimon Story Time Stranger, and play on buying Powerwash Sim 2, Marvel Cosmic Invasion, & the He-Man Beat 'Em Up when we get release dates for those.
Re: Microsoft Announces New Price Increases For Xbox Series X|S In The US
Series X and PS5 have been massive disappointments. I can't imagine anyone buying one or the other at these prices unless their XBO X or PS4 Pro randomly dies. And even then, they might just be happier with the $600.