@BAMozzy More so than the fan backlash, there's another reason giving up on exclusivity would be Sony shooting themselves in the foot. Without exclusives, it all becomes about the hardware and features. So right away that puts them in direct competition with gaming PCs which there's no way they can beat. But then every choice of a PlayStation or Xbox just comes down to which runs better and has better features. And Microsoft can easily outspend them in both regards. Even now, the Series X just has more features like Quick Resume and game gifting, and the features they both have like Groups are way more primitive on PS.
Weren't they too afraid to say 'WW2 German' in Indiana Jones? Unless there was some weird ToS from Disney, that doesn't bode well for a new Wolfenstein.
With the licensed ones, for most I don't think that's the issue. Instead I think they're going to do what they started with Oblivion and just slowly churn out a bunch of old games with new coats of paint. Because yeah, they COULD just make the originals Backwards Compatible, but then they couldn't sell them on other Platforms that way. Hasbro has already said they'd love to get the Activision games back out there, so I think what I said is pretty likely.
Minus the EA ones which are just for sports games (and skate 3 which has been repeated multiple times), the actual gaming ones are all for F2P games. Which Sony includes in their basic PS Plus Essential Tier while Microsoft locks them behind the most expensive. And I'd assume if you're paying for GPU's library then you really don't care about F2P stuff.
@TheGameThrifter This, companies use weasel words to trick people into thinking they have better metrics. If 1 million people buy a game, they'll say that. But if it under performs, they'll use players, which includes people playing using a Subscription, who got the game for free, or played but refunded it. And in this case specifically a lot of people got this as a free upgrade, so it's got another factor against it.
Had fun and might actually pick it up now, it's basically Transformed 2. Single Player was okay, though even on Normal the AI felt really aggressive so I'm wondering how tough the others are. Solo online is fun, but the most fun I had was in the 4v4v4 Joker Event with different, rotating bonus objectives and rewards. Between the plane & boat mechanics and the second lap almost always being random, it felt like Mario Kart World conceptually but better. Biggest issue was that the connections were really bad, and people were constantly dropping. But hopefully that's just a Beta issue. Probably getting it for PS5 at launch, but will definitely be getting it for Series and Switch 2 after a good discount.
I don't think you can fix Starfield with just updates. Like you can rework the gameplay sure, but without changing the entire game you can't fix things like there being only 3 cities (that aren't even that big) and an occasional group of houses that would barely count as a village in an Elder Scroll game. Even if you ignore the countless meaningless, copy-pasta'd planets with the same dungeons, there's just... not much there to work with or change in the first place.
I'll get it on PS5 after a decent sale. Own it on Series, but as I own all the games included with GPC, I refuse to pay $60 a year for just online. And I wanna play it Co-op, so RIP.
I pay attention to games news and know what I do and don't want. I don't need ads, especially when at least half of them are for movies that I don't have interest it. The only way ads on the Dashboard, or anywhere but the store for that matter, would be acceptable is if it part of a deal. Like I get ads in every unfilled space but only pay $20 a year for online.
Hopefully you get cool upgrades earlier on. By the end of the first game having all the upgrades made it super fun, but there was no content left to do.
Definitely picking up the He-Man Beat 'Em Up and Cult of the Lamb DLC on launch. I'll pick up the new Lego Batman game eventually but not anytime soon. Sad we didn't get a Powerwash Sim 2 release date, just price confirmation.
I can't even fault how GameMill and Outright Games do things. Their best games are only above average at best, but the budgets to make them are way less, even when they throw a ton of darts at the board. Meanwhile a lot of AAA devs put a lot of years and millions into one project, and how often are those projects even above average?
@Martsmall If i had to guess, it's probably just the 360/PS3 port with a face lift and with the ability to revisit Levels. Those versions had Local Co-op, and with modern Popcap I'd guess most of it is the same coding copy-pasta'd.
The original PvZ is a classic, but not worth $20, and aside from graphics they didn't show any new additions. The fact they specifically mentioned Co-op as a bonus but showed nothing was a red flag too, as the 360 and PS3 versions had it but it was just for Mini Games/Side Modes.
It'll stick around for a bit... but eventually any form of media affected will just skip having a UK release, and the government will panic with how much money they're losing and back peddle.
Curious what they'll do to make the original PvZ worth $20. The Campaign is perfect and the art style was already great, so maybe they'll be adding a handful of new Mini Games/Side Modes? Even if they're been periodically ruining the original on phones, just PvZ with a new coat of paint is a bit of a hard sell for 20 bucks.
@Kaloudz The original Plants vs Zombies was a digital download on 360 & PS3, and it's actually BC on Xbox. But that version was weird because you couldn't replay Stages.
@CallMeDuraSouka It really shows how the average quality of games has gone down doesn't it? For the past 10 years AAA games have just not been what they used to, to the point where people look back at games that were panned when expectations were higher and talk about how great they were now. With a few exceptions (mostly on PS4) the XBO/PS4 Gen was the equivalent of the Star Wars Prequels, and the current Series/PS5 Gen is the Disney stuff.
For the Multiplayer maybe. But for the Campaign, the open world would still be empty, the Levels would still all feel the same, and 343 would still be incapable of starting and resolving a conflict within the game instead of across multiple pieces of media.
Was the Achievements section not already a good enough Play History? Most Xbox games have Achievements, and it bumps up the most recently played games.
Games I'm looking forward to laterthis year are Digimon Story: Time Stranger, Powerwash Sim 2, & Marvel Cosmic Invasion. At least that launch on Xbox. I won't be getting them on Xbox, but they are in fact Xbox releases.
Graphics are great, gameplay is perfectly average. By the time you get all the upgrades it's actually super fun... but by then the game is over and there's nothing left to do. 7/10 that either bumps up to an 8/10 or down to a 5/10 depending on how the humor hits you.
My first Halo was Reach (was a Nintendo baby growing up) and I very fondly remember playing BTB and Custom Maps & Games with my cousin on weekends and over the Summer.
Awesome for the community to get more players, but I don't see this happening for anything that isn't multiplayer focused. I'd prefer to have online for my Series X but Game Pass Core is such a scam compared to PS Plus Essential that I'd rather re-buy games I already own on Xbox and ger re-released like Halo.
@bazchillin Microsoft and Sony are the reason gaming costs have ballooned, so I very much can be upset with both the increased price of games and the layoffs. Before the start of the XBO & PS4 Era, people didn't care what kind of graphics a game had. Realistic, cartoony, comic book/manga, pixelated - it didn't matter to most. Then at the start of that Era both started pushing (then) hyper realistic graphics as the big selling point over everything else, which skyrocketed the cost and development time of most of there games.
And with the Series & PS5 Era they've doubled down on this so costs have escalated even further because of features most people either turn off or don't care about like motion blur and ray-tracing. So now they not only spend a ridiculous amount of money (and time) per game, but they also need to make an insane amount back to just to make a tiny bit of profit. And since they spend so many resources just on graphics, the actually gameplay and story for these games get neglected in comparison, so they sell worse. It is entirely self-inflicted and everyone can directly blame Microsoft and Sony for all the bad in these specific situations.
@Exerion76 The modern Xbox higher ups often say how little they think of the 360. Which is insane with how downhill and backwards their progress has been since moving on to the Xbox One.
@themightyant Yeah, arguably worse than any gameplay changes has been 343's story telling - by which I mean almost every conflict starts and resolves off screen, requiring you to be invested in cross media to know what happens. And the Halo fanbase is pretty casual so it's just bad idea all around, that they show no signs of changing a decade in.
If they're making a ground-up remake of CE, I wonder how they'll approach things like weapon balance (though everything but the Needler is good in Campaign and PVP) or if we'll see things like Firefight that weren't in the original. They really need all the bells and whistles for whatever they're making as Halo PS entry point, and I love CE, but just that won't be enough to make an impact.
They'll fire the more expensive but experienced senior staff of their dev teams then wonder why their next games are all universally panned, like all these companies do.
I wish Microsoft didn't kill Mighty DOOM, which the picture reminded me of before seeing this is Halo's Hololive Save the Fans. Or at least wish they'd give it the Spartan Assault treatment and give it a $5 console port that skips the grindy bits.
PS Plus Essential is so much better than Game Pass Core for me personally, as it's just what Gold used to be but better giving Game Perks that Microsoft locks behind Ultimate (and still has less of somehow). I personally prefer the Xbox overall and it has the MCC, but I already own all the games that come with Core, and I can't justify paying $60 just for online. Especially if Xbox is just gonna bring all the exclusives over to PS eventually.
At this rate we won't even have half the XBO & Series Activision games by the end of the next console's life cycle. And I thought Nintendo was bad with the NSO's dripfeed of old games.
I don't believe this for a second. They've done nothing to preserve the current backwards games, even the ones they own, and I doubt they'd try now. Especially for the Activision 360 games - they have more incentive to just re-release them with a face lift like Oblivion, and if the process is as complex as they act like it is, it'd probably take a comparable amount of effort for much less gains.
They're gonna see an even bigger drop off in Subscribers. Even now at the current price, between expenses and time to play for most, it's just cheaper to occasionally buy a game you're really interested in and wait for decent sales for any others. And even if by 2026 Microsoft has a steady supply of games from Activision, Bethesda, etc. new and old coming to Game Pass, I don't think it'll be fast enough to justify GPU to most. And if they bring back or make new games like Tony Hawk, Transformers, Spider-Man/Marvel - those are gonna be games people are going to want to own due to licensing, not rent. I just don't see it working, especially since even if they make something original, it'll be Multiplat.
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Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Launch Provided 'Substantial Uplift' In Revenue, Data Shows
@BAMozzy More so than the fan backlash, there's another reason giving up on exclusivity would be Sony shooting themselves in the foot. Without exclusives, it all becomes about the hardware and features. So right away that puts them in direct competition with gaming PCs which there's no way they can beat. But then every choice of a PlayStation or Xbox just comes down to which runs better and has better features. And Microsoft can easily outspend them in both regards. Even now, the Series X just has more features like Quick Resume and game gifting, and the features they both have like Groups are way more primitive on PS.
Re: Halo: The Master Chief Collection Gets Surprise Update On Xbox & PC
Felt like they were done with MCC updates. Guess the idea of it coming to PS5 isn't completely dead yet.
Re: Xbox Dev MachineGames Hints At Wolfenstein 3 Following Indiana Jones DLC
Weren't they too afraid to say 'WW2 German' in Indiana Jones? Unless there was some weird ToS from Disney, that doesn't bode well for a new Wolfenstein.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Again Talking About All The Microsoft Games Missing From Game Pass
With the licensed ones, for most I don't think that's the issue. Instead I think they're going to do what they started with Oblivion and just slowly churn out a bunch of old games with new coats of paint. Because yeah, they COULD just make the originals Backwards Compatible, but then they couldn't sell them on other Platforms that way. Hasbro has already said they'd love to get the Activision games back out there, so I think what I said is pretty likely.
Re: Xbox Adds More Perks For Game Pass Ultimate Members (September 2025)
Minus the EA ones which are just for sports games (and skate 3 which has been repeated multiple times), the actual gaming ones are all for F2P games. Which Sony includes in their basic PS Plus Essential Tier while Microsoft locks them behind the most expensive. And I'd assume if you're paying for GPU's library then you really don't care about F2P stuff.
Re: Xbox's PS5 Strategy Pays Off As Gears Reloaded Easily Passes 1 Million Players In Under A Week
@TheGameThrifter This, companies use weasel words to trick people into thinking they have better metrics. If 1 million people buy a game, they'll say that. But if it under performs, they'll use players, which includes people playing using a Subscription, who got the game for free, or played but refunded it. And in this case specifically a lot of people got this as a free upgrade, so it's got another factor against it.
Re: Talking Point: If You've Played It, What Do You Think Of The Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Playtest?
Had fun and might actually pick it up now, it's basically Transformed 2. Single Player was okay, though even on Normal the AI felt really aggressive so I'm wondering how tough the others are. Solo online is fun, but the most fun I had was in the 4v4v4 Joker Event with different, rotating bonus objectives and rewards. Between the plane & boat mechanics and the second lap almost always being random, it felt like Mario Kart World conceptually but better. Biggest issue was that the connections were really bad, and people were constantly dropping. But hopefully that's just a Beta issue. Probably getting it for PS5 at launch, but will definitely be getting it for Series and Switch 2 after a good discount.
Re: Starfield Dev Teases New DLC, Free Updates And 'Features Players Have Been Asking For'
I don't think you can fix Starfield with just updates. Like you can rework the gameplay sure, but without changing the entire game you can't fix things like there being only 3 cities (that aren't even that big) and an occasional group of houses that would barely count as a village in an Elder Scroll game. Even if you ignore the countless meaningless, copy-pasta'd planets with the same dungeons, there's just... not much there to work with or change in the first place.
Re: Review: Gears Of War: Reloaded - An Xbox Classic That Flourishes On Modern Hardware
I'll get it on PS5 after a decent sale. Own it on Series, but as I own all the games included with GPC, I refuse to pay $60 a year for just online. And I wanna play it Co-op, so RIP.
Re: You'll Soon Be Able To See 'Personalised' Ads On Your Xbox Dashboard
I pay attention to games news and know what I do and don't want. I don't need ads, especially when at least half of them are for movies that I don't have interest it. The only way ads on the Dashboard, or anywhere but the store for that matter, would be acceptable is if it part of a deal. Like I get ads in every unfilled space but only pay $20 a year for online.
Re: Roundup: All The Big Reveals From Xbox's Second Gamescom 2025 Livestream
Silksong Release Date carried today's show. Not bad, but way less broad than yesterday as far as appeal goes.
Re: High On Life 2 Gets February 2026 Release Date, And Here's 42 Minutes Of Gameplay
Hopefully you get cool upgrades earlier on. By the end of the first game having all the upgrades made it super fun, but there was no content left to do.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From Gamescom Opening Night Live 2025
Definitely picking up the He-Man Beat 'Em Up and Cult of the Lamb DLC on launch. I'll pick up the new Lego Batman game eventually but not anytime soon. Sad we didn't get a Powerwash Sim 2 release date, just price confirmation.
Re: Halo Is Quietly Having A Resurgence Right Now, And There's A Lot More To Come
I'll be interested in Halo again when Local Co-op returns and 343 can tell a story within a game without relying on cross-media.
Forever is a long time coming.
Re: Xbox Announces Big List Of Games For Its Two Gamescom Broadcasts Next Week
Salivating at the mouth of the thought of a Powerwash Sim 2 release date.
Re: Three Games Announced In 24 Hours As GameMill Unveils New Lineup Of Xbox Releases
I can't even fault how GameMill and Outright Games do things. Their best games are only above average at best, but the budgets to make them are way less, even when they throw a ton of darts at the board. Meanwhile a lot of AAA devs put a lot of years and millions into one project, and how often are those projects even above average?
Re: GTA Insider Shares First Look At Age Verification Checks For GTA Online
@GamerScore200K Also including the people who are of age but don't trust giving their info out.
Re: PvZ: Replanted Is A 'Definitive Remaster' Of The Xbox 360 Original, Releasing This October
@Martsmall If i had to guess, it's probably just the 360/PS3 port with a face lift and with the ability to revisit Levels. Those versions had Local Co-op, and with modern Popcap I'd guess most of it is the same coding copy-pasta'd.
Re: Hideo Kojima Says We're Either Going To Love Or Hate His Xbox-Published Game 'OD'
Most people either loving or hating Kojima games sounds pretty normal, don't think this one will be an outlier.
Re: PvZ: Replanted Is A 'Definitive Remaster' Of The Xbox 360 Original, Releasing This October
The original PvZ is a classic, but not worth $20, and aside from graphics they didn't show any new additions. The fact they specifically mentioned Co-op as a bonus but showed nothing was a red flag too, as the 360 and PS3 versions had it but it was just for Mini Games/Side Modes.
Re: Xbox Introduces Controversial Age Verification Process In The UK
It'll stick around for a bit... but eventually any form of media affected will just skip having a UK release, and the government will panic with how much money they're losing and back peddle.
Re: Slime Rancher 2 Releases This September, Three Years After Early Access Game Pass Launch
I'll actually pick it up now that it's fully released.
Re: Report: Reliable Leaker Details Two Unannounced Xbox Games Coming This Fall
Curious what they'll do to make the original PvZ worth $20. The Campaign is perfect and the art style was already great, so maybe they'll be adding a handful of new Mini Games/Side Modes? Even if they're been periodically ruining the original on phones, just PvZ with a new coat of paint is a bit of a hard sell for 20 bucks.
Re: Report: Reliable Leaker Details Two Unannounced Xbox Games Coming This Fall
@Markatron84 There will be no toleration of Garden Warfare 1 slander in this house! You can bash on the other two though.
Re: Report: Reliable Leaker Details Two Unannounced Xbox Games Coming This Fall
@Kaloudz The original Plants vs Zombies was a digital download on 360 & PS3, and it's actually BC on Xbox. But that version was weird because you couldn't replay Stages.
Re: Talking Point: Would Halo Infinite Have Been A Bigger Success Using Unreal Engine 5?
@CallMeDuraSouka It really shows how the average quality of games has gone down doesn't it? For the past 10 years AAA games have just not been what they used to, to the point where people look back at games that were panned when expectations were higher and talk about how great they were now. With a few exceptions (mostly on PS4) the XBO/PS4 Gen was the equivalent of the Star Wars Prequels, and the current Series/PS5 Gen is the Disney stuff.
Re: Talking Point: Would Halo Infinite Have Been A Bigger Success Using Unreal Engine 5?
For the Multiplayer maybe. But for the Campaign, the open world would still be empty, the Levels would still all feel the same, and 343 would still be incapable of starting and resolving a conflict within the game instead of across multiple pieces of media.
Re: Microsoft Is Adding A 'Play History' Tab To The Xbox Dashboard
@Fiendish-Beaver Even if you have 0 Achievements a game will show up in that section as long as the game has any.
Re: Microsoft Is Adding A 'Play History' Tab To The Xbox Dashboard
Was the Achievements section not already a good enough Play History? Most Xbox games have Achievements, and it bumps up the most recently played games.
Re: Deals: All 70+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Summer Sale 2025
Metal Slug 3 & XX are on sale too. Think they have modern ports, but I plan to grab these 360 versions too.
Re: Poll: Which Of Xbox's Fall 2025 Games Are You Most Excited About?
Games I'm looking forward to laterthis year are Digimon Story: Time Stranger, Powerwash Sim 2, & Marvel Cosmic Invasion. At least that launch on Xbox. I won't be getting them on Xbox, but they are in fact Xbox releases.
Re: High On Life Returns To Xbox Game Pass Today, And Now Is The Perfect Time To Play It
Graphics are great, gameplay is perfectly average. By the time you get all the upgrades it's actually super fun... but by then the game is over and there's nothing left to do. 7/10 that either bumps up to an 8/10 or down to a 5/10 depending on how the humor hits you.
Re: Rumour: Halo 1 Remake/Remaster Started Development In 2023, May Not Include Multiplayer
@wildcat_kickz This. Even if it's a budget title for $40-50, without Multiplayer it'll essentially be DOA as the first Multiplatform Halo.
Re: Rumour: Halo 1 Remake/Remaster Started Development In 2023, May Not Include Multiplayer
@CaptainCluck It's the same reason they remastered Gears 1 a second time - because they want the first entry to be the first one on PlayStation too.
Re: Xbox Summer Sale 2025 'Teaser' Now Live, 300+ Games Discounted
I'm hoping this will be a sale they add a few more Backwards Compatible games to the usual rotations.
Re: Talking Point: To Celebrate Bungie Day, What's Your Favourite Halo Memory Of All Time?
My first Halo was Reach (was a Nintendo baby growing up) and I very fondly remember playing BTB and Custom Maps & Games with my cousin on weekends and over the Summer.
Re: Helldivers 2 Is Officially Releasing For Xbox This August
Awesome for the community to get more players, but I don't see this happening for anything that isn't multiplayer focused. I'd prefer to have online for my Series X but Game Pass Core is such a scam compared to PS Plus Essential that I'd rather re-buy games I already own on Xbox and ger re-released like Halo.
Re: EA Is Shutting Down Anthem, And It Won't Be Playable Offline Either
I had just assumed it was already shut down.
Re: Xbox Layoffs Begin As Phil Spencer Shares Internal Microsoft Gaming Update
@bazchillin Microsoft and Sony are the reason gaming costs have ballooned, so I very much can be upset with both the increased price of games and the layoffs. Before the start of the XBO & PS4 Era, people didn't care what kind of graphics a game had. Realistic, cartoony, comic book/manga, pixelated - it didn't matter to most. Then at the start of that Era both started pushing (then) hyper realistic graphics as the big selling point over everything else, which skyrocketed the cost and development time of most of there games.
And with the Series & PS5 Era they've doubled down on this so costs have escalated even further because of features most people either turn off or don't care about like motion blur and ray-tracing. So now they not only spend a ridiculous amount of money (and time) per game, but they also need to make an insane amount back to just to make a tiny bit of profit. And since they spend so many resources just on graphics, the actually gameplay and story for these games get neglected in comparison, so they sell worse. It is entirely self-inflicted and everyone can directly blame Microsoft and Sony for all the bad in these specific situations.
Re: Xbox Layoffs Begin As Phil Spencer Shares Internal Microsoft Gaming Update
@Exerion76 The modern Xbox higher ups often say how little they think of the 360. Which is insane with how downhill and backwards their progress has been since moving on to the Xbox One.
Re: Halo Studios Confirms Major Reveal To Take Place Later This Year
@themightyant Yeah, arguably worse than any gameplay changes has been 343's story telling - by which I mean almost every conflict starts and resolves off screen, requiring you to be invested in cross media to know what happens. And the Halo fanbase is pretty casual so it's just bad idea all around, that they show no signs of changing a decade in.
Re: Halo Studios Confirms Major Reveal To Take Place Later This Year
If they're making a ground-up remake of CE, I wonder how they'll approach things like weapon balance (though everything but the Needler is good in Campaign and PVP) or if we'll see things like Firefight that weren't in the original. They really need all the bells and whistles for whatever they're making as Halo PS entry point, and I love CE, but just that won't be enough to make an impact.
Re: Forza Motorsport Studio Said To Be 'Bracing' For Job Cuts At Xbox
They'll fire the more expensive but experienced senior staff of their dev teams then wonder why their next games are all universally panned, like all these companies do.
Re: Halo Fan Game To Release On Xbox After Microsoft & Halo Studios Give Approval
Now we need Microsoft to give the okay for Halo Combat Devolved which is CE as a Gameboy Color game.
Re: Halo Fan Game To Release On Xbox After Microsoft & Halo Studios Give Approval
I wish Microsoft didn't kill Mighty DOOM, which the picture reminded me of before seeing this is Halo's Hololive Save the Fans. Or at least wish they'd give it the Spartan Assault treatment and give it a $5 console port that skips the grindy bits.
Re: PS Plus Has 'Surpassed Expectations' Since Becoming More Like Xbox Game Pass
PS Plus Essential is so much better than Game Pass Core for me personally, as it's just what Gold used to be but better giving Game Perks that Microsoft locks behind Ultimate (and still has less of somehow). I personally prefer the Xbox overall and it has the MCC, but I already own all the games that come with Core, and I can't justify paying $60 just for online. Especially if Xbox is just gonna bring all the exclusives over to PS eventually.
Re: Opinion: It's Nice To See ActiBlizz Titles Coming To Xbox Game Pass, But We Want More
At this rate we won't even have half the XBO & Series Activision games by the end of the next console's life cycle. And I thought Nintendo was bad with the NSO's dripfeed of old games.
Re: Report: Xbox Working On Massive Backwards Compatibility Overhaul Called 'Xbox Classics'
I don't believe this for a second. They've done nothing to preserve the current backwards games, even the ones they own, and I doubt they'd try now. Especially for the Activision 360 games - they have more incentive to just re-release them with a face lift like Oblivion, and if the process is as complex as they act like it is, it'd probably take a comparable amount of effort for much less gains.
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Could Move To Switch 2, But What About Xbox?
But it's already on an Xbox, because Microsoft said anything is an Xbox.
Re: 'Subscription Price Increase' Tag Reportedly Added To Xbox Cloud Gaming Website
They're gonna see an even bigger drop off in Subscribers. Even now at the current price, between expenses and time to play for most, it's just cheaper to occasionally buy a game you're really interested in and wait for decent sales for any others. And even if by 2026 Microsoft has a steady supply of games from Activision, Bethesda, etc. new and old coming to Game Pass, I don't think it'll be fast enough to justify GPU to most. And if they bring back or make new games like Tony Hawk, Transformers, Spider-Man/Marvel - those are gonna be games people are going to want to own due to licensing, not rent. I just don't see it working, especially since even if they make something original, it'll be Multiplat.