I'm also quite mad at the Mighty DOOM devs getting canned. Microsoft wants a piece of the mobile market, they make a good mobile game, they get shut down. BGS is more or less just Fallout, TES, & DOOM now, which is totally not foreshadowing of them keeping Activision as the CoD company.
Feel like by the time Microsoft would make it appealing, the Steam Deck will have been made better. And anything Microsoft would make for it would also likely launch on said Steam Deck Day One.
@eduscxbox Oh I'm sorry, it was the other loud mouthpiece Phil Spencer who said, in Todd Howard's stead, that 30 FPS was 'a creative choice'. Normally when something that's not true internally like that is said it would be corrected, but I guess they were too busy comparing landing on a video game moon with nothing on it was the same as physically landing on the Moon IRL.
Considering what nonsense has been going on behind the scenes in the industry, expect to be hearing a lot more stories like this in the days to come. I'd assume (and hope) they gotta pull in less ridiculous numbers to turn a profit than Spider-Man 2 has to, but it's also an inherently less popular IP so it might just as bad when scaled accordingly.
Let's go, finally some different 360 games getting a sale. Picked up Deus Ex: Human Evolution, Tomb Raider Anniversary, & Tomb Raider Underworld. It'd be nice if the DLC went on sale too, but with Microsoft you gotta take what you can get.
Even if the DLC & big updates are Cyberpunk-sized I don't think I'll be revisiting it. The core idea of wanting the player to NG+ dozens of times defeats the point of things like outposts, ship building, collecting weapons with rare effects, etc. when almost everything resets.
It might be worth testing to see if leaving the game open for X amount of time triggers the Just For You Deal. I know there's a few games or games from Publishers I only opened or played for GP Quests and got stuff in the Deals section just from that.
As far as new games go? No. But I'd love to see 3 & New Vegas get Remasters, Xbox has them via BC but not PS or Switch (3 also doesn't have Steam Achievements). I know this is also in the super minority, but I'd like to see the team that does Shelter add the 2 sets of mobile content updates to the other platforms.
Until we actually see what they do, I have no expectations or desires, because the entire Series Gen so far that's only led to disappointment with Microsoft.
We have tipping culture in games. It's called the 3 dozen Day One DLCs & near-infinite microtransactions. You're telling me they want more on top of that, on top of the $70 price tag?
I feel like if you haven't played or grabbed these XBO/PS4 Gen titles they'll be adding by this point you probably don't care that much. Diablo 4 I could understand maybe selling some Subs, but not stuff like this. If they drip feed these like Nintendo does their NSO titles people just aren't gonna care.
Fallout 4's really fun gameplay-wise, it's just a garbage Fallout game. If they didn't water down every gameplay aspect Starfield would've been so amazing... but let's focus on the positives.
Wonder if they'll add in more Creation Club freebies in addition to these along with the current rotation they've been doing for a few years. Either way I'm excited to play again, and since I have all the Achievements I can mess around with the limited console mods.
The problem isn't that these games are too long now, it's that most of the length is from meaningless bloat just to say 'look how long our game is!' Just another reason Indies & AA games are better than most AAA outings now.
@armondo36 "every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol", yeah a decade ago or longer. I don't think you understand what the word 'abandoned' means. And unlike Blue Dragon there's no excuse with Sony since they own all the rights for those abandoned IPs.
@armondo36 Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Jax 'n Daxter, Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, Infamous, Resistance, Killzone... it sure is great to be able to play these long standing games that have PS5 entries.
@ValentineMeikin Yeah I'm sure they won't do exactly what they did with having Xbox exclusives come to PC. You know, what also started as 'a handful of carefully selected' games to literally everything in a few years.
Finally tried Infinite and put it down after 5 or so games. Felt more like some eSport FPS with some Halo things thrown in rather than Halo. Can't even take comfort in the MCC since like any older multiplayer game, the majority of people only play certain Game Modes.
Hard to say the Backwards Compatibility when that's long been over and I have a perfectly functional 360. I guess... the controller? I'll always like it more than the PS one, but it's effectively been the same controller for almost 2 decades so, that feels like a Mr. Fantastic stretch for something good.
@BacklogBrad It's not that much of a grind if you approach it casually. Doing Co-op VS AI 20-30 minutes a day got me the entire cast and a ton of extra stuff over time. Just gotta mess around in the Lab a bit to see who you prefer in advance and spend your Gold smartly. At the very least I'd claim it on the chance that when it permanently goes offline, you might still be able to do the Lab & Local Play w/ everything unlocked like they did when the Beta ended.
@xanderten50 They were silent on it maybe for a week after it originally going offline, but yeah, all the characters, Perks, Skins, etc. you've unlocked or bought from the Open Beta are still yours.
They need to pull a Cyberpunk and massively update & change the game alongside a good sized DLC. I... do not have faith Bethesda can do such a thing, but would love to be wrong.
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Re: Xbox Fans React Angrily To Closure Of Bethesda's Tango Gameworks
I'm also quite mad at the Mighty DOOM devs getting canned. Microsoft wants a piece of the mobile market, they make a good mobile game, they get shut down. BGS is more or less just Fallout, TES, & DOOM now, which is totally not foreshadowing of them keeping Activision as the CoD company.
Re: Xbox Is Shutting Four Studios, Including Arkane Austin And Tango Gameworks
Doesn't matter if the name is different - when your only tactic is to buy things like Saber Interactive, you're gonna do the same thing.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Mind If The Next Xbox Was A Portable Console?
Feel like by the time Microsoft would make it appealing, the Steam Deck will have been made better. And anything Microsoft would make for it would also likely launch on said Steam Deck Day One.
Re: Starfield Is Getting A 60FPS Performance Mode On Xbox Series X
@eduscxbox Oh I'm sorry, it was the other loud mouthpiece Phil Spencer who said, in Todd Howard's stead, that 30 FPS was 'a creative choice'. Normally when something that's not true internally like that is said it would be corrected, but I guess they were too busy comparing landing on a video game moon with nothing on it was the same as physically landing on the Moon IRL.
Re: All New Xbox Games Coming Out In May 2024
Gonna have to coordinate nights of MultiVersus just to get the Achievement to play 500 times in a Party. Last one I need and boy is it gonna suck.
Re: Starfield Is Getting A 60FPS Performance Mode On Xbox Series X
But I thought the game was created ground up to only work at 30FPS? Surely Bethesda and Todd Howard of all people wouldn't just lie to out faces!
Re: Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Made Profit Despite Huge Critical Success
Considering what nonsense has been going on behind the scenes in the industry, expect to be hearing a lot more stories like this in the days to come. I'd assume (and hope) they gotta pull in less ridiculous numbers to turn a profit than Spider-Man 2 has to, but it's also an inherently less popular IP so it might just as bad when scaled accordingly.
Re: Xbox's Latest Batch Of 200+ Discounts Includes Star Wars And 'Award Winning' Games
Let's go, finally some different 360 games getting a sale. Picked up Deus Ex: Human Evolution, Tomb Raider Anniversary, & Tomb Raider Underworld. It'd be nice if the DLC went on sale too, but with Microsoft you gotta take what you can get.
Re: Starfield's Shattered Space Expansion DLC Launches On Xbox This Fall
Even if the DLC & big updates are Cyberpunk-sized I don't think I'll be revisiting it. The core idea of wanting the player to NG+ dozens of times defeats the point of things like outposts, ship building, collecting weapons with rare effects, etc. when almost everything resets.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Currently 'Formulating Plans' To Fast-Track Next Fallout Game
So Fallout 3 Remastered from the leaks?
Re: Xbox Game 'Tech Glitch' Gets 100% Discount, Now Entirely Free To Claim
Personally despise Puzzle Games because I'm stupid, but won't turn down a free Multiplayer or Local play game.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Texas Chain Saw Massacre Gets Free DLC Promotion
It might be worth testing to see if leaving the game open for X amount of time triggers the Just For You Deal. I know there's a few games or games from Publishers I only opened or played for GP Quests and got stuff in the Deals section just from that.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Like To See Xbox Focus On A New Fallout Game?
As far as new games go? No. But I'd love to see 3 & New Vegas get Remasters, Xbox has them via BC but not PS or Switch (3 also doesn't have Steam Achievements). I know this is also in the super minority, but I'd like to see the team that does Shelter add the 2 sets of mobile content updates to the other platforms.
Re: Fallout: London Suffers Delay, Dev Wasn't Told About Fallout 4 Update
Why was this not expected, when the same exact thing happened to Skyrim when they added the Anniversary Edition stuff?
Re: Xbox's Latest BOGOF Sale Includes Some Best-Ever Deals On Rockstar Classics
@jesse_dylan There's still thousands of games not backwards compatible and digital-only. And a lot of good games too.
Re: Xbox's Latest BOGOF Sale Includes Some Best-Ever Deals On Rockstar Classics
@jesse_dylan Backwards compatible games you can buy on the Series/XBO stores aren't going away with the 360 store closing.
Re: Xbox's Latest BOGOF Sale Includes Some Best-Ever Deals On Rockstar Classics
The only backwards game from this I don't own is Red Dead, and I ain't buying it until it goes back to $9 on sale.
Re: Bethesda's Todd Howard Says 'Really Good Updates' Are Coming For Starfield
I don't think you can 'fix' Starfield without adding so much it borderline becomes a new game. The gameplay is just that watered down from Fallout 4.
Re: 'Braid, Anniversary Edition' Gets May 2024 Release Date For Xbox
@Auglicious It's called The Baconing, but is very much the third DeathSpank game. Still available on Steam though.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox's New 'Game Preservation' Team?
Until we actually see what they do, I have no expectations or desires, because the entire Series Gen so far that's only led to disappointment with Microsoft.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Fans Are Preparing For A New Era On Xbox This Week
By the end of 2024 Rewards Points will either be gone or scale with the Zimbabwe dollar.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Likes The Idea Of 'Tipping' Developers After Beating Their Games
We have tipping culture in games. It's called the 3 dozen Day One DLCs & near-infinite microtransactions. You're telling me they want more on top of that, on top of the $70 price tag?
Re: Talking Point: Almost A Year On, What Do You Think Of The Current Xbox Dashboard?
Answer depends on if we stay at the top or if we scroll down.
Re: Fallout 4's Next-Gen Update Is Coming To Xbox Series X|S Later This Month
@RetroMan71 No. It's actually terrible as a Fallout game. But outside of that the core gameplay loop is fun.
Re: Todd Howard On Elder Scrolls TV Show: There's Nothing In The Works But 'You Never Know'
No hurry to retcon anything in TES universe like New Vegas in Fallout to appease Todd's ego so I understand why.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Seems To Be Preparing For The Next Activision Blizzard Drop
I feel like if you haven't played or grabbed these XBO/PS4 Gen titles they'll be adding by this point you probably don't care that much. Diablo 4 I could understand maybe selling some Subs, but not stuff like this. If they drip feed these like Nintendo does their NSO titles people just aren't gonna care.
Re: Fallout 4's Next-Gen Update Is Coming To Xbox Series X|S Later This Month
Fallout 4's really fun gameplay-wise, it's just a garbage Fallout game. If they didn't water down every gameplay aspect Starfield would've been so amazing... but let's focus on the positives.
Wonder if they'll add in more Creation Club freebies in addition to these along with the current rotation they've been doing for a few years. Either way I'm excited to play again, and since I have all the Achievements I can mess around with the limited console mods.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Sparks Criticism Over Games With $100+ 'Ultimate' Editions
Is this really news worthy at this point.
Re: Time Is Running Out For Hundreds Of Games On The Xbox 360 Store
Microsoft cares about games preservation BTW. You know, the people who actively delisted their own in-house games.
Re: Deals: Xbox Just Added 100+ More Games To The Spring Sale 2024
None of my trackers went off so I'll assume it's more of the same. Again.
Re: Xbox Establishes New Team Dedicated To 'Game Preservation And Forward Compatibility'
In this context 'Games Preservation' & 'Forward Compatibility' are presumably the same thing, and they only need to say Forwards Compatibility.
Re: Deals: All 50+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Spring Sale 2024
Same games at the same if not worse prices than in the past, yawn.
Re: Fallout 76's Xbox Version Is 'Free' With Amazon Prime This Month
@IGN_Commenter Was going to point this out. I guess maybe for the day Microsoft 180s on GP, if the servers are even up still.
Re: Deals: Xbox Spring Sale 2024 Now Live, 800+ Games Discounted
Same games as always. Do they really think a dollar 'n some change difference a year later is gonna make people bite this time?
Re: Talking Point: Do You Prefer Shorter Or Longer Games In General?
The problem isn't that these games are too long now, it's that most of the length is from meaningless bloat just to say 'look how long our game is!' Just another reason Indies & AA games are better than most AAA outings now.
Re: Deals: This Week's Xbox Sales Include A Few Classics From The 360 Era
Hoping some different BC games go on sale this time; usually the Spring or Summer sale is when they add new ones to the sale rotation.
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 "every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol", yeah a decade ago or longer. I don't think you understand what the word 'abandoned' means. And unlike Blue Dragon there's no excuse with Sony since they own all the rights for those abandoned IPs.
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Jax 'n Daxter, Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, Infamous, Resistance, Killzone... it sure is great to be able to play these long standing games that have PS5 entries.
Re: Killer Instinct Bonus Update Adds New Stage And '87 New Colorways'
@ValentineMeikin Yeah I'm sure they won't do exactly what they did with having Xbox exclusives come to PC. You know, what also started as 'a handful of carefully selected' games to literally everything in a few years.
Re: Overwatch 2 Really Is Done With PvE, According To New Report
Worse than the original in every way. And the original wasn't even that great. How much did Microsoft pay for this again?
Re: Xbox Users Are 'Gutted' About The Latest Microsoft Rewards Nerf
You don't jack up the prices then lower the amount you can earn, you do one or the other.
Re: 'Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra' Launches In 2025, And It Looks Incredible So Far
Didn't Wolverine fight with Cap in WW2? Or are they not going to include him because of that weird clause with Sony? Assuming it comes to Xbox.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Gets Surprise Xbox Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Screw 60FPS, finish Red Dead Online and add the things that were promised at the beginning.
Re: Xbox Is Hosting A Special Sale For Game Pass Members This Week
Almost if not all of these are either the normal lowest for the games or worse. Why lock some of them behind Game Pass?
Re: Halo Infinite Prepares For 'Major' March Update With Multiple New Features
Finally tried Infinite and put it down after 5 or so games. Felt more like some eSport FPS with some Halo things thrown in rather than Halo. Can't even take comfort in the MCC since like any older multiplayer game, the majority of people only play certain Game Modes.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Thing About Xbox Right Now?
Hard to say the Backwards Compatibility when that's long been over and I have a perfectly functional 360. I guess... the controller? I'll always like it more than the PS one, but it's effectively been the same controller for almost 2 decades so, that feels like a Mr. Fantastic stretch for something good.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@BacklogBrad It's not that much of a grind if you approach it casually. Doing Co-op VS AI 20-30 minutes a day got me the entire cast and a ton of extra stuff over time. Just gotta mess around in the Lab a bit to see who you prefer in advance and spend your Gold smartly. At the very least I'd claim it on the chance that when it permanently goes offline, you might still be able to do the Lab & Local Play w/ everything unlocked like they did when the Beta ended.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@xanderten50 They were silent on it maybe for a week after it originally going offline, but yeah, all the characters, Perks, Skins, etc. you've unlocked or bought from the Open Beta are still yours.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Starfield's Shattered Space Expansion?
They need to pull a Cyberpunk and massively update & change the game alongside a good sized DLC. I... do not have faith Bethesda can do such a thing, but would love to be wrong.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@xanderten50 They said anything you owned from the Open Beta will carry over to the full release a few days after shutting down though?