It's not really comparable in my opinion. First off, only physical Switch games that are $70 digital will be $80 physical. And Nintendo's gonna have them be $60/$70 or $70/$80 on a case by case basis. But people still buy physical for Nintendo, where as they don't buy or make many physical games for Xbox between digital sales and GP, and Sony is trying to push for digital-only. The markets between the three consoles are too different for direct comparisons like these. Another example is Xbox, PS, & Nintendo all have Subscription Services for online, but with all the different tiers, their pricings, & their offerings, they can't be compared one to one.
I really don't like articles like this, because it feels every 6 or 12 months Steam updates or runs routine maintenance on everything, and people think it means something's coming. And it's always a nothing burger.
I hope they do it a few games at a time, and I hope they do that to add Cross-play to the Campaigns. Because as far as I'm aware, the Multiplayer is all Cross-play between Xbox and PC, however only the Halo 3 and I think ODST have it as far as Campaigns go.
It could also just be worded or thought out poorly, as, well yeah, the MCC wouldn't contain 5 or Infinite which would be 'all' the main Halo games.
@JayJ They're gonna lay off well over a thousand people after the restructuring they talked about because of this. Personally waiting to see how news sites and people try and spin it as a positive.
Ridiculously hyped for Marvel Cosmic Invasion since it's done by the Shredder's Revenge team. Also hoping it has the same effect and we see plenty of re-releases and Collections of classic Marvel and Spider-Man games.
The Powerwash Sim DLCs would be great for one of these deals. Buy one Crossover you know you'll be more interested in and get one for free you're not sure of.
I don't think Xbox has had a single game for the Series X Gen I've been interested in that wouldn't have run just as well on an Xbox One X. But I also don't have normal taste in anything, so it doesn't mean much. If I had to pick one I guess Shredder's Revenge. My first Beat 'Em Up and it made me fall in love with the Genre.
Technically? Yes, it's about time by usual standards. But for most it doesn't feel like the Series/PS5 console gen has even started yet. And I think it's gonna be a hard sell for most to upgrade considering companies still see profit in making XBO/PS4 versions and there haven't been any must-have games. Even if there are, I'd see more Series & PS5 sales than whatever comes next. A few bells 'n whistles aside, they really feel like Microsoft and Sony's own Wii U's, just reversed - Wii U had good games but bad hardware, while PS5 & Series have good hardware but no games.
It was a classic 360/PS3 Era game that people really want more of these days, instead of more 100 hour open world games that all feel identical. Hope that after 3 does well they redo the first ground up so it's playable on modern hardware with the other 2.
Hasbro is also working with Saber Interactive on something, and considering their in-house game engine specializes in vehicle physics, that screams Transformers or G.I. Joe.
@SMJ Just off the top of my head, the 360 Halo games, DOOM 1993 and DOOM 2, and the Double Fine XBLA games that Microsoft either personally chose to delist or to no re-list because they want you to pay for Game Pass infinitely instead of own them.
Ubisoft's IPs are worth more than the company while costing less, which is why you hear companies talking about wanting to buy the IPs and not Ubisoft itself. I don't really care who gets Assassin's Creed as long as they change it back to what it used to be, instead of another generic Open World grind game. Rayman would be a good fit for Nintendo, because every game could be the wackiness of Mario Wonder and more difficult than Donkey Kong making it stand out from their other Platformers.
Microsoft and Sony still haven't convinced people they need the current hardware, I doubt many are anticipating the next that aren't already gonna buy them regardless. If anything they might sell more PS5s and Series Xs when the new consoles launch for the people still playing on PS4 & XBO.
I'm still shocked they fumbled this game like they did... I'd be willing to ignore the vast amount of nothing, even on the main planets that should be covered in cities and only have one settlement. But the gameplay is so dumbed down and lacks any meaning that it's just not enjoyable. It just had to be Fallout 4 in space... but the only thing they learned from Fallout 4 was the voiced protag was a bad idea. So Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game because it was made to be Starfield's prototype, but the prototype was better than the end product.
@themightyant No, it's more than just Japanese fans. The controversies have gotten to the point where the non-gamers in Japan are mad too. A major tipping point was them showing off destroyable environments that happened to be a religious shrine, which outraged a lot of people.
Even if you don't care about the endless controversies that got the entire country of Japan to hate Ubisoft, the fact that the majority of devs working on Shadows have never worked on a game before means it's probably not gonna be a good game.
Why even bother including 4 if you're gonna completely gut it? There's a chance it'll still be good as it's own thing, sure. But it won't really be Pro Skater 4, and now we'll never get a proper Remaster of it.
The thing about the new Lego games is if they don't stand out as unique are aren't just flat out great, they flop badly. Because why would I buy a meh new Lego game for $60-70 when I could get half a dozen meh Lego games for half the price with the frequent sales they have?
I find it so bizarre they were willing to make a backwards compatibility program but not do anything to maintain the library of games it offers from being removed. By virtue of the sale licenses expiring and devs delisting their own games, within the next few years it'll get to the point where if you don't already have the games, it's not a feature you can use. To the point it'd likely be a waste of resources to make it work on the next Xbox console.
Aside from that, while I'd love the Activision games being added, I'd rather have the ability to play things like War for Cybertron of MUA online, even if it meant paying for a Remaster.
Stopped using Game Pass Ultimate since the first butchering of the rewards program and haven't missed it in the least. Won't pay for Core as it's a massive scam for someone who owns all the old and cheap games it offers, effectively making it $60 for online and nothing else. I'll gladly buy the MCC again on PS5 to play it online as PS Plus is amazing compared to Core.
I'll never understand investing money in a game that's gonna stop being supported within the calendar year, especially one more people are just renting through Game Pass now. But $20 a Turtle sounds about right as I think SF6 was the same.
I'm of the opinion we need more spin-offs of established IPs in gaming as a whole, it'd especially benefit Microsoft having their own subscription service. As an example, I feel a Halo: Spartan Assault sequel made for console instead of mobile would be a great addition. Have a 5 or 6 hour Campaign with Co-op, a Survival Mode, upgrades, Skulls, & in-game Challenges to unlock for replayability, and make it a budget release in the $20-30 range. I don't know why they're not making more smaller scale, XBLA-style games that'd really do well for filling out the Game Pass catalog.
Really enjoyed the 2 360 Sonic & Sega Racing games (stupid that the first isn't Backwards BTW) and I'm glad to see this will be a culmination of ideas that worked. Team Sonic Racing wasn't a bad idea, but something like that works better as a side Game Mode than a main concept.
@K1LLEGAL Yep. And I played it on Xbox for 10 years. But I don't see a reason to own an Xbox in the future if I can buy all its games on PS or Nintendo consoles, so I'll buy it again on another Platform.
@K1LLEGAL I'd prefer to own games than infinitely rent them, and in addition to not caring about most of the GPU permeant games, the ones I do care about are old and cheap so I own them. Which is why GPC is so unappealing to me. For something like the MCC, I'd rather just buy it again on PS5 and not pay for an extra online service I see no value in.
In all fairness if you're gonna rip-off a Mario Spin-Off game, Strikers is the one likely to be ignored the most by Nintendo. If anything it might be better to have it there to remind people there is in fact a Mario Strikers entry on Switch.
Sad to see it go. They could easily revamp it later on as a retail game, but I doubt WB would make such a good decision at this point with their obsession of chasing live service games.
Considering Microsoft can't manage their gaming studios to save their lives, the plan being just to buy more of them is probably gonna be worse both for Microsoft and the gaming industry as a whole, and end with the Xbox branding being winded down anyways.
Don't most FPSs compensate for controller users by giving them Aim Assist, or at least not giving it to players using mouse and keyboard? And for CoD at least don't they try to match controller with controller and mk with mk?
Better to have it re-made from the ground up than do what they do with Skyrim, which is re-release it without fixing anything and create new bugs for a somehow progressingly worse experience every time.
@Th3_Highlander They specifically only removed the new Avatars that most people didn't know existed. The 360 ones still exist and can be used for games.
It's been so long at this point I don't really care anymore. I love the Marvel and Transformers games, but without the online for games like War for Cybertron and Marvel Ultimate Alliance they'd just 'oh that's neat' rather than things that'd wow me.
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Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Willing To Pay $80 For Xbox Games?
It's not really comparable in my opinion. First off, only physical Switch games that are $70 digital will be $80 physical. And Nintendo's gonna have them be $60/$70 or $70/$80 on a case by case basis. But people still buy physical for Nintendo, where as they don't buy or make many physical games for Xbox between digital sales and GP, and Sony is trying to push for digital-only. The markets between the three consoles are too different for direct comparisons like these. Another example is Xbox, PS, & Nintendo all have Subscription Services for online, but with all the different tiers, their pricings, & their offerings, they can't be compared one to one.
Re: Ahead Of The Oblivion Remake, The Original Just Got Updated On Steam
I really don't like articles like this, because it feels every 6 or 12 months Steam updates or runs routine maintenance on everything, and people think it means something's coming. And it's always a nothing burger.
Re: Rumour: Halo's Leap To Other Platforms Might Be More Limited Than Expected
I hope they do it a few games at a time, and I hope they do that to add Cross-play to the Campaigns. Because as far as I'm aware, the Multiplayer is all Cross-play between Xbox and PC, however only the Halo 3 and I think ODST have it as far as Campaigns go.
It could also just be worded or thought out poorly, as, well yeah, the MCC wouldn't contain 5 or Infinite which would be 'all' the main Halo games.
Re: Ubisoft Shares Spike By 10% After Tencent Invests $1 Billion Into New Subsidiary
@JayJ They're gonna lay off well over a thousand people after the restructuring they talked about because of this. Personally waiting to see how news sites and people try and spin it as a positive.
Re: Poll: As Forza Horizon 5 Cruises To PS5, Are You Still Playing It On Xbox?
Tried either Horizon 4 or 5 for Game Pass Quests, but it's just not for me. I'd rather play a pure Arcade Racer than one mixed with any Sim elements.
Re: Multiple Games Announced For Xbox Following March 2025's Nintendo Direct
Ridiculously hyped for Marvel Cosmic Invasion since it's done by the Shredder's Revenge team. Also hoping it has the same effect and we see plenty of re-releases and Collections of classic Marvel and Spider-Man games.
Re: Microsoft's New 'Buy One, Get One Free' Sale Features Plenty Of Xbox DLC
The Powerwash Sim DLCs would be great for one of these deals. Buy one Crossover you know you'll be more interested in and get one for free you're not sure of.
Re: Talking Point: What's The Best Xbox Game You've Played During The Series X|S Generation?
I don't think Xbox has had a single game for the Series X Gen I've been interested in that wouldn't have run just as well on an Xbox One X. But I also don't have normal taste in anything, so it doesn't mean much. If I had to pick one I guess Shredder's Revenge. My first Beat 'Em Up and it made me fall in love with the Genre.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Too Early To Release A New Xbox Console In 2027?
Technically? Yes, it's about time by usual standards. But for most it doesn't feel like the Series/PS5 console gen has even started yet. And I think it's gonna be a hard sell for most to upgrade considering companies still see profit in making XBO/PS4 versions and there haven't been any must-have games. Even if there are, I'd see more Series & PS5 sales than whatever comes next. A few bells 'n whistles aside, they really feel like Microsoft and Sony's own Wii U's, just reversed - Wii U had good games but bad hardware, while PS5 & Series have good hardware but no games.
Re: Pick One: If Xbox Acquired One Ubisoft IP, Which Should It Be?
How about they start releasing games for the IPs they own and don't seem to plan on touching first?
Re: Talking Point: Two Years Later, Is It Finally Almost Time For 'Forspoken' On Xbox?
The dialogue is insufferable and I'm not playing any home console game muted the whole time.
Re: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 3 Announced Following 'Transformative' Success Of SM2
It was a classic 360/PS3 Era game that people really want more of these days, instead of more 100 hour open world games that all feel identical. Hope that after 3 does well they redo the first ground up so it's playable on modern hardware with the other 2.
Hasbro is also working with Saber Interactive on something, and considering their in-house game engine specializes in vehicle physics, that screams Transformers or G.I. Joe.
Re: PowerWash Simulator 2 Releases For Xbox This Year, Featuring Split-Screen Co-Op
Looking forward to it, both Local Co-op and shared progress online well justify a new version.
Re: Rumour: Oblivion 'Remake' Expected To Arrive Soon, According To Latest Reports
Prepare for the original 360 one to get Delisted regardless of how different the original and Remake are.
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@SMJ Just off the top of my head, the 360 Halo games, DOOM 1993 and DOOM 2, and the Double Fine XBLA games that Microsoft either personally chose to delist or to no re-list because they want you to pay for Game Pass infinitely instead of own them.
Re: Microsoft Has Reportedly Discussed Acquiring IP From Ubisoft
Ubisoft's IPs are worth more than the company while costing less, which is why you hear companies talking about wanting to buy the IPs and not Ubisoft itself. I don't really care who gets Assassin's Creed as long as they change it back to what it used to be, instead of another generic Open World grind game. Rayman would be a good fit for Nintendo, because every game could be the wackiness of Mario Wonder and more difficult than Donkey Kong making it stand out from their other Platformers.
Re: Activision Blizzard Aims To 'Meaningfully Elevate' BlizzCon When It Returns In 2026
Maybe they should meaningfully evaluate their games instead.
Re: Talking Point: If The Next-Gen Xbox Is More 'PC-Like', Will You Still Buy It?
Microsoft and Sony still haven't convinced people they need the current hardware, I doubt many are anticipating the next that aren't already gonna buy them regardless. If anything they might sell more PS5s and Series Xs when the new consoles launch for the people still playing on PS4 & XBO.
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@Ricky-Spanish I wasn't talking about Forza.
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@JON22 How are they preserving games when they constantly delist their own and do nothing to prevent old games from getting removed?
Re: Xbox Fans Have Another Chance To Become A Millionaire With Microsoft Rewards In 2025
Much less than a million after taxes. Still potentially life changing money if you use it correctly though.
Re: Bethesda Provides Update On Starfield DLC & Future Plans For Xbox RPG
I'm still shocked they fumbled this game like they did... I'd be willing to ignore the vast amount of nothing, even on the main planets that should be covered in cities and only have one settlement. But the gameplay is so dumbed down and lacks any meaning that it's just not enjoyable. It just had to be Fallout 4 in space... but the only thing they learned from Fallout 4 was the voiced protag was a bad idea. So Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game because it was made to be Starfield's prototype, but the prototype was better than the end product.
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
@themightyant No, it's more than just Japanese fans. The controversies have gotten to the point where the non-gamers in Japan are mad too. A major tipping point was them showing off destroyable environments that happened to be a religious shrine, which outraged a lot of people.
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
Even if you don't care about the endless controversies that got the entire country of Japan to hate Ubisoft, the fact that the majority of devs working on Shadows have never worked on a game before means it's probably not gonna be a good game.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Will Add Two-Minute Time Limit To THPS4's Career Mode
Why even bother including 4 if you're gonna completely gut it? There's a chance it'll still be good as it's own thing, sure. But it won't really be Pro Skater 4, and now we'll never get a proper Remaster of it.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
@BacklogBrad Another point of consideration is if the 360 Gears games get delisted and the servers shut down after a Collection releases like Halo.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
PvP Multiplayer would be nice, but if it came down to it I'd take just Campaign Co-op and the Hoard Mode.
Re: Warner Bros. Working On New LEGO Game As Industry Reporter Discusses Studio Closures
The thing about the new Lego games is if they don't stand out as unique are aren't just flat out great, they flop badly. Because why would I buy a meh new Lego game for $60-70 when I could get half a dozen meh Lego games for half the price with the frequent sales they have?
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Would You Love To See Relisted This Year?
I find it so bizarre they were willing to make a backwards compatibility program but not do anything to maintain the library of games it offers from being removed. By virtue of the sale licenses expiring and devs delisting their own games, within the next few years it'll get to the point where if you don't already have the games, it's not a feature you can use. To the point it'd likely be a waste of resources to make it work on the next Xbox console.
Aside from that, while I'd love the Activision games being added, I'd rather have the ability to play things like War for Cybertron of MUA online, even if it meant paying for a Remaster.
Re: Xbox Has Officially Delayed Fable Into 2026
@FatGuyInLilCoat I mean if we're including things like CoD, no Microsoft original ever will be their top game for a year ever again.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Appears To Be Increasing Its Prices For Xbox Game Pass
Stopped using Game Pass Ultimate since the first butchering of the rewards program and haven't missed it in the least. Won't pay for Core as it's a massive scam for someone who owns all the old and cheap games it offers, effectively making it $60 for online and nothing else. I'll gladly buy the MCC again on PS5 to play it online as PS Plus is amazing compared to Core.
Re: Black Ops 6 Season 2 Reloaded Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass With A Huge TMNT Crossover
I'll never understand investing money in a game that's gonna stop being supported within the calendar year, especially one more people are just renting through Game Pass now. But $20 a Turtle sounds about right as I think SF6 was the same.
Re: Talking Point: Five Years On, Would You Want To See A Gears Tactics 2?
I'm of the opinion we need more spin-offs of established IPs in gaming as a whole, it'd especially benefit Microsoft having their own subscription service. As an example, I feel a Halo: Spartan Assault sequel made for console instead of mobile would be a great addition. Have a 5 or 6 hour Campaign with Co-op, a Survival Mode, upgrades, Skulls, & in-game Challenges to unlock for replayability, and make it a budget release in the $20-30 range. I don't know why they're not making more smaller scale, XBLA-style games that'd really do well for filling out the Game Pass catalog.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Confirms SEGA Characters, Extreme Gear, And Much More
Really enjoyed the 2 360 Sonic & Sega Racing games (stupid that the first isn't Backwards BTW) and I'm glad to see this will be a culmination of ideas that worked. Team Sonic Racing wasn't a bad idea, but something like that works better as a side Game Mode than a main concept.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Discounted By 90% On Xbox This Weekend (February 7-10)
@Kaloudz Shame the online doesn't work.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@K1LLEGAL Yep. And I played it on Xbox for 10 years. But I don't see a reason to own an Xbox in the future if I can buy all its games on PS or Nintendo consoles, so I'll buy it again on another Platform.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@K1LLEGAL I'd prefer to own games than infinitely rent them, and in addition to not caring about most of the GPU permeant games, the ones I do care about are old and cheap so I own them. Which is why GPC is so unappealing to me. For something like the MCC, I'd rather just buy it again on PS5 and not pay for an extra online service I see no value in.
Re: 'Mariostro Strikers' Goes Viral As Ridiculous Rip-Off Appears On Xbox
In all fairness if you're gonna rip-off a Mario Spin-Off game, Strikers is the one likely to be ignored the most by Nintendo. If anything it might be better to have it there to remind people there is in fact a Mario Strikers entry on Switch.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@K1LLEGAL For me personally, it's because I don't care about GPU and GPC is awful compared to PS Plus Essential's offerings.
Re: MultiVersus Is Shutting Down, Less Than A Year Since Its Relaunch
Sad to see it go. They could easily revamp it later on as a retail game, but I doubt WB would make such a good decision at this point with their obsession of chasing live service games.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Discounted By 90% On Xbox This Weekend (January 18-19)
I'm still mad and disappointed the online for Duke Nukem 3D: 20th Anniversary World Tour doesn't work, glad I only paid $2 for it on a previous sale.
Re: GTA 6 Raising Prices To '$80 Or Even $100' Could Cause Industry To Follow Suit, Says Analyst
>less people buying new AAA games than ever >'another price increase would help the industry'
This analyst is pretty bad at their job.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Reportedly Chose Buying Studios Over 'Winding Down' Xbox In 2021
Considering Microsoft can't manage their gaming studios to save their lives, the plan being just to buy more of them is probably gonna be worse both for Microsoft and the gaming industry as a whole, and end with the Xbox branding being winded down anyways.
Re: Soapbox: With Xbox Games Now On PS5, Microsoft Needs To Ditch Forced PC Crossplay
Don't most FPSs compensate for controller users by giving them Aim Assist, or at least not giving it to players using mouse and keyboard? And for CoD at least don't they try to match controller with controller and mk with mk?
Re: Rumour: Bethesda's Oblivion Re-Release Will Be 'Fully Remade' By Developer Virtuos
Better to have it re-made from the ground up than do what they do with Skyrim, which is re-release it without fixing anything and create new bugs for a somehow progressingly worse experience every time.
Re: Talking Point: Will 1 Vs. 100 Ever Make A Comeback On Xbox?
@Th3_Highlander They specifically only removed the new Avatars that most people didn't know existed. The 360 ones still exist and can be used for games.
Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Two More Xbox Games Possibly Going Multiplatform In 2025
But for the MCC, will they actually do something about the PC hackers that can get your account banned just by playing with them?
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
Went from competing the same month as Monster Hunter Wilds to competing the same day as Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition.
Re: Cancelled Transformers Game Footage Leaks, And It Actually Looks Pretty Good
Looks like War for Cybertron mixed with the 2007 DS games, and now my day is ruined knowing it's dead.
Re: Soapbox: I Can't Wait To See What Xbox Does With Activision This Year
It's been so long at this point I don't really care anymore. I love the Marvel and Transformers games, but without the online for games like War for Cybertron and Marvel Ultimate Alliance they'd just 'oh that's neat' rather than things that'd wow me.