Seems my plan going forward is not bothering with Xbox again. Has the least amount of software across all consoles, even if we include the backwards titles that're on a timer and don't include the shovelware on everything but Xbox. Personally can't even say the hardware is reliable - pack-in controller got drift faster than my Joycons with less play and I constantly have random issues with the console itself compared to my 360 or One.
@Frmknst TBH I think Microsoft are the oblivious ones. The people who just buy the yearly CoD, yearly sports games, and one thing here or there aren't gonna care about Game Pass. If they cared about those other games, they probably had Game Pass before the Activision buy. And for those people just buying those games like they always did is the least complicated solution.
Being able to search by Developer and Publisher names would be nice. Maybe it's just me, but I'd also like an option to disable anything with a basic Game Pass price cut from showing up in the Deals section. I'd prefer to see things that, you know, are actual deals on a timer.
@Runex2121 And I can understand that perspective, but like I said, for me most of the GP games I play are either old or cheaper Indies. I've played two, maybe three max Day One games that're $60-70 in the few years I've had it so, just not for me. As for replaying games it's not that I do it often, but more just liking the option that I can long term, you know? Especially anything with Local Co-op I can throw out as an option when people come over.
@Kilamanjaro Quite honestly aside from occasional Firefight Matches in the MCC, I myself don't even play online that much. Or if I do it's for F2P games that don't require a Sub. It's more of a 'just in case' someone I know randomly has time for a Co-op session and I don't wanna drop 10 bucks on the spot.
Stopped using the Wishlist ever since I found out about price trackers like DekuDeals or TrueAchievements. Way more convenient to just check an email when things reach a certain price than scroll through the Wishlist every sale to see the same prices you've seen for years.
This just reminds me TES Blades was such a flop they didn't bother putting it on Xbox or PS. But they kill an actual fun mobile game like Mighty DOOM presumably because they expect Candy Crush-level money from any mobile game, and it was very F2P friendly.
@RiverGenie Only ones I had any interest in were the licensed ones like Transformers & Marvel. But given how things are going, I doubt they'll ever come back. Anything that's not CoD, Overwatch, WoW, or Candy Crush will be destroyed and forgotten.
It took them buying the company to give Perks for a F2P game people might actually care about... But between the price hikes of GPU both in actual price and Reward Points needed, I'm just gonna go back to Core. I'll be saving money just buying the games I play on GPU instead of renting them.
@__jamiie See, a big part of that was because it didn't play or feel like a Fallout game. That's why a Fallout 4 in space, without being an actual Fallout game gameplay or lore-wise, should've been an easy success. But they dumbed it down so much it'll take a lot of DLCs and a lot of reworkings to make it what it should've been, and confidence for Bethesda to do that is at a critical low.
@__jamiie They simplified it too much from Fallout 4 for me to enjoy it. 'Fallout 4 in space' was something I looked forward too, but everything is dumbed down and limited so much by comparison I'd rather just re-play Fallout 4.
@somnambulance As far as value is concerned it's priced well. $20 a year for online, NES, SNES, & GB games, and the option to purchase Vouchers is pretty fair. $40 more for the Expansion Pak is a little more debatable though, and comes down to how much you like the N64 & GBA game lineups.
I don't think people realize how big and messy of a difference there is between A.I. Generated and A.I. Assisted. There's 0 reason any of the 3 CoD developers should be cutting corners with how many entire extra studios have been killed to help them alongside their own teams.
@Beetlebum91 There's 0 reason they can't have BC games just for the Series and add a disclaimer to those titles. I don't buy the 'ran out of Publishers' or licensing issues, especially when you have sequels BC but not the originals, but having to make them run on Xbox Ones w/ VCR players built in and such? That makes more sense.
"The online won't end this month." That's not reassuring from Microsoft, they could shut it down on the first of the next month. This is the same company that uses 'for the foreseeable future' for less than 3 months. Seriously, just say the when instead of using weasel words since the when is always so soon.
Only Forza Horizon 4: Ultimate Edition since it's getting delisted. Everything else is the same price or nearly the same price as every sale, so why bother.
@NEStalgia The successful transition from the disaster Wii U to major success Switch was because the Wii U hardware was bad but the games were amazing as in most cases. So just taking the same games while improving issues like frame rate dips & adding any DLC for a 'Definitive/Deluxe' version on a system that functions properly was enough.
That's weird, weren't the first 2 just added via an update so you didn't have to go out of your way? Regardless I'm excited to see more content and that they plan to add more for a long while. It keeps on giving like Vampire Survivors.
This alone is going to drop the number of people who have GP, and like the price hikes they'll somehow be shocked when this not only doesn't improve things but worsens them.
We need a lot more games that need less commitment. Microsoft especially needs them having a Subscription service, things that take less time and money to develop and can fill the gaps without big AAA releases.
And they clearly don't know this considering they shut down Tango Gameworks who was a perfect example of that role.
I cannot emphasis how much I hate having to wait last minute for these sales. They had so much prep-time and could've done this at any point, but instead choose the last 45 or so days.
And unlike back in the day I'm sure Microsoft won't give us anything for such a massive outage. After all, the fans and any studio not working on CoD are the ones that're paying for the Activision merger.
Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 seems randomly specific but welcome. So now on Xbox you have 2 F2P Platform Fighters in MultiVersus & Brawlhalla one one on GP.
Sounds kind of like Cybertron Adventures for the Wii, which was a Railshooter with vehicle segments. Will wait for reviews, but depending on price I might just buy it regardless.
There's gonna be so many people who download these, don't read, and wonder why they're not getting Achievements from future Expansions with too many hours to reload.
If Harry Potter for Kinect can get relisted just long enough before the 360 store closes for some quick sales, I don't see why other licensed games couldn't. These however are... not great.
Remember like last year they said there were no plans to delist Forza Horizon 4 at any point in the near future? Just like there were no plans to close the 360 Store in the near future? Almost like you can trust Microsoft no further than you can throw their HQ.
@ValentineMeikin They're not Backwards Compatible. Fall of Cybertron, like Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2, had a digital-only Remaster, and RoTDS was a cross-Gen title. So no way to play WFC outside original hardware and only FOC if you bought it while it was still listed.
I know a lot of people didn't like Rise of the Dark Spark. And while the Campaign was garbage both in story and being cheap in difficulty, the Escalation Mode was the best of the series. It had all the best aspects of both Escalation Modes from WFC & FOC along while improving them and adding new things. Choose any Autobot/Decepticon on their respective Maps, being able to choose from all previous Maps along with new ones, loadouts, the equivalent of Skulls from Halo to make things more difficult in exchange for greater rewards, various defenses to build upgrade and repair, Wave Bosses different for each Map, and good scaling in challenge to the Wave number + Difficulty Setting. They could cut the Campaign and just sell the Escalation Mode by itself and I'd buy it full price.
Really wish they would've announced these way early... would've saved me a lot of money as someone who hates to wait last minute. Anyhow even if you don't have a 360 anymore, would recommend buying BLACK through the 360 online store for 99 cents since it is BC.
Bethesda is one more meh game from death by mediocrity, which is a lot slower and more costly than 1 game ruining your reputation. I'd be scared beyond belief if I was any of the smaller devs Microsoft's gotten via larger acquisitions. Because why punish the people who make the mistakes when you can fire devs like Tango Gameworks to make up for some the cost, so no lesson is learned and the process repeats until you're the Disney of the console industry.
Closures decided by a bunch of suits with 0 know about the industry for short term benefits. Hope Tango Gameworks forms a banger Indie Studio and puts all their games on everything but Xbox out of spite.
@Spider-Kev Now see I heard the last one was glitchy and really repetitive even for a Beat 'Em Up, and the Fighting Game was just meh, nothing particularly interesting (gameplay-wise). I also see people complaining about the Megazord fights being QTEs again but none of them suggesting alternatives for 5-6 players being involved with 1 character.
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Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Comments On Indiana Jones PS5, And Microsoft's Plan Moving Forward
Seems my plan going forward is not bothering with Xbox again. Has the least amount of software across all consoles, even if we include the backwards titles that're on a timer and don't include the shovelware on everything but Xbox. Personally can't even say the hardware is reliable - pack-in controller got drift faster than my Joycons with less play and I constantly have random issues with the console itself compared to my 360 or One.
Re: Xbox Shows Off Extended Footage From Raven Software's Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6 Campaign
@Frmknst TBH I think Microsoft are the oblivious ones. The people who just buy the yearly CoD, yearly sports games, and one thing here or there aren't gonna care about Game Pass. If they cared about those other games, they probably had Game Pass before the Activision buy. And for those people just buying those games like they always did is the least complicated solution.
Re: Genshin Impact Finally Crosses Over From PlayStation To Xbox This November
There was a Switch port announced forever ago and Xbox still got it first, geez.
Re: Talking Point: What Improvements Would You Like To See Made To The Xbox Store?
Being able to search by Developer and Publisher names would be nice. Maybe it's just me, but I'd also like an option to disable anything with a basic Game Pass price cut from showing up in the Deals section. I'd prefer to see things that, you know, are actual deals on a timer.
Re: Blizzard's Overwatch 2 Is Integrating With Xbox Game Pass Next Month
@Runex2121 And I can understand that perspective, but like I said, for me most of the GP games I play are either old or cheaper Indies. I've played two, maybe three max Day One games that're $60-70 in the few years I've had it so, just not for me. As for replaying games it's not that I do it often, but more just liking the option that I can long term, you know? Especially anything with Local Co-op I can throw out as an option when people come over.
Re: Blizzard's Overwatch 2 Is Integrating With Xbox Game Pass Next Month
@Kilamanjaro Quite honestly aside from occasional Firefight Matches in the MCC, I myself don't even play online that much. Or if I do it's for F2P games that don't require a Sub. It's more of a 'just in case' someone I know randomly has time for a Co-op session and I don't wanna drop 10 bucks on the spot.
Re: Deals: All 20+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox End Of Summer Sale 2024
Same games as always, they add like 1 every 4+ months to the rotation and call it a day.
Re: Xbox Store Wishlists Will Soon Appear On Your Console Home Screen
Stopped using the Wishlist ever since I found out about price trackers like DekuDeals or TrueAchievements. Way more convenient to just check an email when things reach a certain price than scroll through the Wishlist every sale to see the same prices you've seen for years.
Re: Two Big Xbox Franchises Are Getting New Mobile Games Very Soon
This just reminds me TES Blades was such a flop they didn't bother putting it on Xbox or PS. But they kill an actual fun mobile game like Mighty DOOM presumably because they expect Candy Crush-level money from any mobile game, and it was very F2P friendly.
Re: Talking Point: Have Xbox Series X|S Dynamic Backgrounds Lived Up To The Hype?
Most of them are really lacking on the 'dynamic' part, and not thought out at all on what parts/how much will be covered by the menus.
Re: Blizzard's Overwatch 2 Is Integrating With Xbox Game Pass Next Month
@Tasuki That'll happen when you fire everyone who knew what the lore of the universe was and none of them wrote anything down.
Re: Blizzard's Overwatch 2 Is Integrating With Xbox Game Pass Next Month
@RiverGenie Only ones I had any interest in were the licensed ones like Transformers & Marvel. But given how things are going, I doubt they'll ever come back. Anything that's not CoD, Overwatch, WoW, or Candy Crush will be destroyed and forgotten.
Re: Blizzard's Overwatch 2 Is Integrating With Xbox Game Pass Next Month
It took them buying the company to give Perks for a F2P game people might actually care about... But between the price hikes of GPU both in actual price and Reward Points needed, I'm just gonna go back to Core. I'll be saving money just buying the games I play on GPU instead of renting them.
Re: Braid: Anniversary Edition 'Sold Like Dogs**t', Says Creator
Should've only been for PS4 & Switch. Only put it on the Platforms it's not currently on, then if it does good enough release it on the others.
Re: Bethesda Trademarks 'Starborn', Which Could Be The Second Expansion For Starfield
@__jamiie See, a big part of that was because it didn't play or feel like a Fallout game. That's why a Fallout 4 in space, without being an actual Fallout game gameplay or lore-wise, should've been an easy success. But they dumbed it down so much it'll take a lot of DLCs and a lot of reworkings to make it what it should've been, and confidence for Bethesda to do that is at a critical low.
Re: Bethesda Trademarks 'Starborn', Which Could Be The Second Expansion For Starfield
@__jamiie They simplified it too much from Fallout 4 for me to enjoy it. 'Fallout 4 in space' was something I looked forward too, but everything is dumbed down and limited so much by comparison I'd rather just re-play Fallout 4.
Re: Xbox Adds More Perks For Game Pass Ultimate Members (July 2024)
One of the reasons GPU costs extra is for this and 99% of the time the offerings are worse than what you get for the base PS Plus.
Re: Last Orders! What Are You Getting Before The Xbox 360 Store Closes?
Friendly reminder, for some reason, some DLCs for BC games aren't available on the modern store. So those'll be gone too.
Re: Call Of Duty Currency Now Discounted On Xbox Thanks To Game Pass
@somnambulance As far as value is concerned it's priced well. $20 a year for online, NES, SNES, & GB games, and the option to purchase Vouchers is pretty fair. $40 more for the Expansion Pak is a little more debatable though, and comes down to how much you like the N64 & GBA game lineups.
Re: Report Claims Call Of Duty Has Sold AI Generated Content Through In-Game Store
I don't think people realize how big and messy of a difference there is between A.I. Generated and A.I. Assisted. There's 0 reason any of the 3 CoD developers should be cutting corners with how many entire extra studios have been killed to help them alongside their own teams.
Re: Three More Xbox 360 Games Get Discounts Ahead Of Next Week's Store Closure
@Beetlebum91 There's 0 reason they can't have BC games just for the Series and add a disclaimer to those titles. I don't buy the 'ran out of Publishers' or licensing issues, especially when you have sequels BC but not the originals, but having to make them run on Xbox Ones w/ VCR players built in and such? That makes more sense.
Re: PSA: Xbox 360 Servers Won't Shut Down Following July's Store Closure
"The online won't end this month." That's not reassuring from Microsoft, they could shut it down on the first of the next month. This is the same company that uses 'for the foreseeable future' for less than 3 months. Seriously, just say the when instead of using weasel words since the when is always so soon.
Re: Warner Bros. Has Acquired The Team Behind MultiVersus
@Markatron84 And it's WB, 'underperforming' to them is 'you're not on par with the biggest game in your genre'.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Buying In The Xbox Summer Sale This Year?
Only Forza Horizon 4: Ultimate Edition since it's getting delisted. Everything else is the same price or nearly the same price as every sale, so why bother.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think This Generation Will Be A Short One?
@NEStalgia The successful transition from the disaster Wii U to major success Switch was because the Wii U hardware was bad but the games were amazing as in most cases. So just taking the same games while improving issues like frame rate dips & adding any DLC for a 'Definitive/Deluxe' version on a system that functions properly was enough.
Re: PowerWash Simulator Is Giving Away Free DLC On Xbox Game Pass
That's weird, weren't the first 2 just added via an update so you didn't have to go out of your way? Regardless I'm excited to see more content and that they plan to add more for a long while. It keeps on giving like Vampire Survivors.
Re: Deals: All 60+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Ultimate Game Sale 2024
Own everything on this list from previous sales except the CoD games, and I'm not budging on those until they go lower.
Re: Deals: Xbox Ultimate Game Sale 2024 Now Live, 800+ Games Discounted
Wonder if Forza Horizon 4: Ultimate Edition will have one last super low cut before the end of the year or if I should pick it up now.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Is Making Big Changes Relating To Xbox Game Pass
This alone is going to drop the number of people who have GP, and like the price hikes they'll somehow be shocked when this not only doesn't improve things but worsens them.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Changes Partly Because Microsoft 'Isn't Seeing Strong Growth', Claims Analyst
Ah yes, the logical response to stagnation - charging more for the same product! I'm sure that won't have the opposite desired effect.
Re: Soapbox: I Miss The Type Of Pick-Up-And-Play Games We Got On Original Xbox
We need a lot more games that need less commitment. Microsoft especially needs them having a Subscription service, things that take less time and money to develop and can fill the gaps without big AAA releases.
And they clearly don't know this considering they shut down Tango Gameworks who was a perfect example of that role.
Re: Here's A Final Look At The Xbox 360's Best-Selling 'Arcade' Games
I cannot emphasis how much I hate having to wait last minute for these sales. They had so much prep-time and could've done this at any point, but instead choose the last 45 or so days.
Re: Talking Point: Has Your Gaming Slowed Down As You've Got Older?
Quite a bit less between the stagnation of the industry and less time to play with friends & family.
Re: Three Activision Blizzard Titles Expected To Join Xbox Game Pass 'Very Soon'
Ironic how a slow drip feed is the fasted way to make no one care.
Re: Xbox Suffers 'Major Outage' As Servers Go Down For Most Players
And unlike back in the day I'm sure Microsoft won't give us anything for such a massive outage. After all, the fans and any studio not working on CoD are the ones that're paying for the Activision merger.
Re: EA Is Delisting The Remaining Xbox 360 Battlefield Games & DLC
Would be nice if they were part of that last 360 sale batch before the store closes, especially since BF3 is BC.
Re: These Eight Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (July 3-16)
Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 seems randomly specific but welcome. So now on Xbox you have 2 F2P Platform Fighters in MultiVersus & Brawlhalla one one on GP.
Re: 'Transformers: Galactic Trials' Is An Upcoming Xbox Racer Based On The Famous Franchise
Sounds kind of like Cybertron Adventures for the Wii, which was a Railshooter with vehicle segments. Will wait for reviews, but depending on price I might just buy it regardless.
Re: Ubisoft Is Making Multiple Assassin's Creed Remakes Alongside New Series Entries
Isn't AC1 the only one that's not on everything? Why can't we get remakes of games that are actually hard to find or not available digitally?
Re: Thanks To Mods, Starfield Now Has Lightsabers On Xbox Series X|S
There's gonna be so many people who download these, don't read, and wonder why they're not getting Achievements from future Expansions with too many hours to reload.
Re: Seven Activision Games Just Got Discounted On The Xbox 360 Store
If Harry Potter for Kinect can get relisted just long enough before the 360 store closes for some quick sales, I don't see why other licensed games couldn't. These however are... not great.
Re: Forza Horizon 4 To Be Delisted On Xbox And PC In December 2024
Remember like last year they said there were no plans to delist Forza Horizon 4 at any point in the near future? Just like there were no plans to close the 360 Store in the near future? Almost like you can trust Microsoft no further than you can throw their HQ.
Re: Talking Point: 10 Years On From 'Rise Of The Dark Spark', Should Activision Bring Back Transformers?
@ValentineMeikin They're not Backwards Compatible. Fall of Cybertron, like Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2, had a digital-only Remaster, and RoTDS was a cross-Gen title. So no way to play WFC outside original hardware and only FOC if you bought it while it was still listed.
Re: Talking Point: 10 Years On From 'Rise Of The Dark Spark', Should Activision Bring Back Transformers?
I know a lot of people didn't like Rise of the Dark Spark. And while the Campaign was garbage both in story and being cheap in difficulty, the Escalation Mode was the best of the series. It had all the best aspects of both Escalation Modes from WFC & FOC along while improving them and adding new things. Choose any Autobot/Decepticon on their respective Maps, being able to choose from all previous Maps along with new ones, loadouts, the equivalent of Skulls from Halo to make things more difficult in exchange for greater rewards, various defenses to build upgrade and repair, Wave Bosses different for each Map, and good scaling in challenge to the Wave number + Difficulty Setting. They could cut the Campaign and just sell the Escalation Mode by itself and I'd buy it full price.
Re: Xbox 360 Sales Continue As Microsoft Discounts Another Batch Of Games
Apparently Harry Potter for Kinect was relisted just for this sale, because you can buy it again now. That's a thing.
Re: Beyond Good & Evil - 20th Anniversary Edition Arrives On Xbox Next Week
Didn't they also delist the 360 version because of this?
Re: Xbox 360 Sales Continue As Microsoft Discounts Another Batch Of Games
Really wish they would've announced these way early... would've saved me a lot of money as someone who hates to wait last minute. Anyhow even if you don't have a 360 anymore, would recommend buying BLACK through the 360 online store for 99 cents since it is BC.
Re: Bethesda's Todd Howard Says The Team Doesn't 'Need To Rush' Future Fallout Games
Bethesda is one more meh game from death by mediocrity, which is a lot slower and more costly than 1 game ruining your reputation. I'd be scared beyond belief if I was any of the smaller devs Microsoft's gotten via larger acquisitions. Because why punish the people who make the mistakes when you can fire devs like Tango Gameworks to make up for some the cost, so no lesson is learned and the process repeats until you're the Disney of the console industry.
Re: Phil Spencer On Recent Studio Closures: It's About Running A 'Sustainable Business'
Closures decided by a bunch of suits with 0 know about the industry for short term benefits. Hope Tango Gameworks forms a banger Indie Studio and puts all their games on everything but Xbox out of spite.
Re: There's A New Retro-Style Power Rangers Game Heading To Xbox In 2024
@Spider-Kev Now see I heard the last one was glitchy and really repetitive even for a Beat 'Em Up, and the Fighting Game was just meh, nothing particularly interesting (gameplay-wise). I also see people complaining about the Megazord fights being QTEs again but none of them suggesting alternatives for 5-6 players being involved with 1 character.