Until we actually see what they do, I have no expectations or desires, because the entire Series Gen so far that's only led to disappointment with Microsoft.
We have tipping culture in games. It's called the 3 dozen Day One DLCs & near-infinite microtransactions. You're telling me they want more on top of that, on top of the $70 price tag?
I feel like if you haven't played or grabbed these XBO/PS4 Gen titles they'll be adding by this point you probably don't care that much. Diablo 4 I could understand maybe selling some Subs, but not stuff like this. If they drip feed these like Nintendo does their NSO titles people just aren't gonna care.
Fallout 4's really fun gameplay-wise, it's just a garbage Fallout game. If they didn't water down every gameplay aspect Starfield would've been so amazing... but let's focus on the positives.
Wonder if they'll add in more Creation Club freebies in addition to these along with the current rotation they've been doing for a few years. Either way I'm excited to play again, and since I have all the Achievements I can mess around with the limited console mods.
The problem isn't that these games are too long now, it's that most of the length is from meaningless bloat just to say 'look how long our game is!' Just another reason Indies & AA games are better than most AAA outings now.
@armondo36 "every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol", yeah a decade ago or longer. I don't think you understand what the word 'abandoned' means. And unlike Blue Dragon there's no excuse with Sony since they own all the rights for those abandoned IPs.
@armondo36 Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Jax 'n Daxter, Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, Infamous, Resistance, Killzone... it sure is great to be able to play these long standing games that have PS5 entries.
@ValentineMeikin Yeah I'm sure they won't do exactly what they did with having Xbox exclusives come to PC. You know, what also started as 'a handful of carefully selected' games to literally everything in a few years.
Finally tried Infinite and put it down after 5 or so games. Felt more like some eSport FPS with some Halo things thrown in rather than Halo. Can't even take comfort in the MCC since like any older multiplayer game, the majority of people only play certain Game Modes.
Hard to say the Backwards Compatibility when that's long been over and I have a perfectly functional 360. I guess... the controller? I'll always like it more than the PS one, but it's effectively been the same controller for almost 2 decades so, that feels like a Mr. Fantastic stretch for something good.
@BacklogBrad It's not that much of a grind if you approach it casually. Doing Co-op VS AI 20-30 minutes a day got me the entire cast and a ton of extra stuff over time. Just gotta mess around in the Lab a bit to see who you prefer in advance and spend your Gold smartly. At the very least I'd claim it on the chance that when it permanently goes offline, you might still be able to do the Lab & Local Play w/ everything unlocked like they did when the Beta ended.
@xanderten50 They were silent on it maybe for a week after it originally going offline, but yeah, all the characters, Perks, Skins, etc. you've unlocked or bought from the Open Beta are still yours.
They need to pull a Cyberpunk and massively update & change the game alongside a good sized DLC. I... do not have faith Bethesda can do such a thing, but would love to be wrong.
360-PS3-Wii Gen stands out a lot now, because it was the last time you saw a ton of originality in games, and Wii excluded a lot of those 360 & PS3 were a massive graphically jump from PS2/GameCube/Xbox and still look good in 2024. Now half the XBO, Series, PS4, & PS5 libraries are just ports, remasters, & remakes of games from that Generation. It's why more people are interested in Indies & smaller game now.
@Lightning720 It really is difficult to imagine though. "New planets with new stories"? There's already hundreds of planets with nothing that just exist, and only maybe a dozen planets and or moons with something that could very, VERY charitably be considered a town. 'Fallout 4 in space' had amazing potential... and somehow a slice of post-apocalypse Boston has more, well, EVERYTHING than Starfield except empty space. More NPCs, more named NPCs, more settlements, more weapons, more armors, more weapon and armor mods, more things to build for your outposts, more enemy types, more Character Build options...
It's fine if you liked it but I'm sorry, when the majority of the moding community gives up on trying to fix and make a Bethesda game more fun, it's objectively bad at that point.
Don't care about the show; care about the Next-Gen update and rumored Edition w/ all the Creation Club stuff for Fallout 4. Would rather replay that than finish Starfield at this point.
They need good Perks like this more often, things offering actual content of some kind. As I said before, Skins & coins for a bunch of F2P games you might care about half of at best are not the right way to go, especially when they don't even pick the most popular ones.
The P3R Expansion Pass is an amazing Perk to give with GPU, Xbox really needs more stuff like that instead of Skins & coins for a dozen F2P games of which you might care about half at most.
@Utena-mobile Battle Passes were solely defined in Quality by the last Skin for the paid version, and that's only if you thought it was worth almost $10. Everything else in them weren't very interesting.
Wonder if this game fails after going full release if they'll do what they did for the hiatus and just let everything be free offline, or if that itself needs servers even in that state.
@Lup With a company like Capcom I can't really complain about Remakes and collections considering they're still putting out new games, and good new games at that.
Feel safe saying KI is being prepped for PS5. If not it's very coincidental they started testing Ranked Crossplay & giving it big updates around the same time Microsoft internally decided to make more exclusives Multiplat. Like how the old CoD servers magically were fixed the day the Activision merger got okay'd.
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Re: Xbox's Latest BOGOF Sale Includes Some Best-Ever Deals On Rockstar Classics
@jesse_dylan Backwards compatible games you can buy on the Series/XBO stores aren't going away with the 360 store closing.
Re: Xbox's Latest BOGOF Sale Includes Some Best-Ever Deals On Rockstar Classics
The only backwards game from this I don't own is Red Dead, and I ain't buying it until it goes back to $9 on sale.
Re: Bethesda's Todd Howard Says 'Really Good Updates' Are Coming For Starfield
I don't think you can 'fix' Starfield without adding so much it borderline becomes a new game. The gameplay is just that watered down from Fallout 4.
Re: 'Braid, Anniversary Edition' Gets May 2024 Release Date For Xbox
@Auglicious It's called The Baconing, but is very much the third DeathSpank game. Still available on Steam though.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox's New 'Game Preservation' Team?
Until we actually see what they do, I have no expectations or desires, because the entire Series Gen so far that's only led to disappointment with Microsoft.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Fans Are Preparing For A New Era On Xbox This Week
By the end of 2024 Rewards Points will either be gone or scale with the Zimbabwe dollar.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Likes The Idea Of 'Tipping' Developers After Beating Their Games
We have tipping culture in games. It's called the 3 dozen Day One DLCs & near-infinite microtransactions. You're telling me they want more on top of that, on top of the $70 price tag?
Re: Talking Point: Almost A Year On, What Do You Think Of The Current Xbox Dashboard?
Answer depends on if we stay at the top or if we scroll down.
Re: Fallout 4's Next-Gen Update Is Coming To Xbox Series X|S Later This Month
@RetroMan71 No. It's actually terrible as a Fallout game. But outside of that the core gameplay loop is fun.
Re: Todd Howard On Elder Scrolls TV Show: There's Nothing In The Works But 'You Never Know'
No hurry to retcon anything in TES universe like New Vegas in Fallout to appease Todd's ego so I understand why.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Seems To Be Preparing For The Next Activision Blizzard Drop
I feel like if you haven't played or grabbed these XBO/PS4 Gen titles they'll be adding by this point you probably don't care that much. Diablo 4 I could understand maybe selling some Subs, but not stuff like this. If they drip feed these like Nintendo does their NSO titles people just aren't gonna care.
Re: Fallout 4's Next-Gen Update Is Coming To Xbox Series X|S Later This Month
Fallout 4's really fun gameplay-wise, it's just a garbage Fallout game. If they didn't water down every gameplay aspect Starfield would've been so amazing... but let's focus on the positives.
Wonder if they'll add in more Creation Club freebies in addition to these along with the current rotation they've been doing for a few years. Either way I'm excited to play again, and since I have all the Achievements I can mess around with the limited console mods.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Sparks Criticism Over Games With $100+ 'Ultimate' Editions
Is this really news worthy at this point.
Re: Time Is Running Out For Hundreds Of Games On The Xbox 360 Store
Microsoft cares about games preservation BTW. You know, the people who actively delisted their own in-house games.
Re: Deals: Xbox Just Added 100+ More Games To The Spring Sale 2024
None of my trackers went off so I'll assume it's more of the same. Again.
Re: Xbox Establishes New Team Dedicated To 'Game Preservation And Forward Compatibility'
In this context 'Games Preservation' & 'Forward Compatibility' are presumably the same thing, and they only need to say Forwards Compatibility.
Re: Deals: All 50+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Spring Sale 2024
Same games at the same if not worse prices than in the past, yawn.
Re: Fallout 76's Xbox Version Is 'Free' With Amazon Prime This Month
@IGN_Commenter Was going to point this out. I guess maybe for the day Microsoft 180s on GP, if the servers are even up still.
Re: Deals: Xbox Spring Sale 2024 Now Live, 800+ Games Discounted
Same games as always. Do they really think a dollar 'n some change difference a year later is gonna make people bite this time?
Re: Talking Point: Do You Prefer Shorter Or Longer Games In General?
The problem isn't that these games are too long now, it's that most of the length is from meaningless bloat just to say 'look how long our game is!' Just another reason Indies & AA games are better than most AAA outings now.
Re: Deals: This Week's Xbox Sales Include A Few Classics From The 360 Era
Hoping some different BC games go on sale this time; usually the Spring or Summer sale is when they add new ones to the sale rotation.
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 "every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol", yeah a decade ago or longer. I don't think you understand what the word 'abandoned' means. And unlike Blue Dragon there's no excuse with Sony since they own all the rights for those abandoned IPs.
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Jax 'n Daxter, Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, Infamous, Resistance, Killzone... it sure is great to be able to play these long standing games that have PS5 entries.
Re: Killer Instinct Bonus Update Adds New Stage And '87 New Colorways'
@ValentineMeikin Yeah I'm sure they won't do exactly what they did with having Xbox exclusives come to PC. You know, what also started as 'a handful of carefully selected' games to literally everything in a few years.
Re: Overwatch 2 Really Is Done With PvE, According To New Report
Worse than the original in every way. And the original wasn't even that great. How much did Microsoft pay for this again?
Re: Xbox Users Are 'Gutted' About The Latest Microsoft Rewards Nerf
You don't jack up the prices then lower the amount you can earn, you do one or the other.
Re: 'Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra' Launches In 2025, And It Looks Incredible So Far
Didn't Wolverine fight with Cap in WW2? Or are they not going to include him because of that weird clause with Sony? Assuming it comes to Xbox.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Gets Surprise Xbox Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Screw 60FPS, finish Red Dead Online and add the things that were promised at the beginning.
Re: Xbox Is Hosting A Special Sale For Game Pass Members This Week
Almost if not all of these are either the normal lowest for the games or worse. Why lock some of them behind Game Pass?
Re: Halo Infinite Prepares For 'Major' March Update With Multiple New Features
Finally tried Infinite and put it down after 5 or so games. Felt more like some eSport FPS with some Halo things thrown in rather than Halo. Can't even take comfort in the MCC since like any older multiplayer game, the majority of people only play certain Game Modes.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Thing About Xbox Right Now?
Hard to say the Backwards Compatibility when that's long been over and I have a perfectly functional 360. I guess... the controller? I'll always like it more than the PS one, but it's effectively been the same controller for almost 2 decades so, that feels like a Mr. Fantastic stretch for something good.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@BacklogBrad It's not that much of a grind if you approach it casually. Doing Co-op VS AI 20-30 minutes a day got me the entire cast and a ton of extra stuff over time. Just gotta mess around in the Lab a bit to see who you prefer in advance and spend your Gold smartly. At the very least I'd claim it on the chance that when it permanently goes offline, you might still be able to do the Lab & Local Play w/ everything unlocked like they did when the Beta ended.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@xanderten50 They were silent on it maybe for a week after it originally going offline, but yeah, all the characters, Perks, Skins, etc. you've unlocked or bought from the Open Beta are still yours.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Starfield's Shattered Space Expansion?
They need to pull a Cyberpunk and massively update & change the game alongside a good sized DLC. I... do not have faith Bethesda can do such a thing, but would love to be wrong.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@xanderten50 They said anything you owned from the Open Beta will carry over to the full release a few days after shutting down though?
Re: Talking Point: In Your Opinion, What Made The Xbox 360 Era So Incredible?
360-PS3-Wii Gen stands out a lot now, because it was the last time you saw a ton of originality in games, and Wii excluded a lot of those 360 & PS3 were a massive graphically jump from PS2/GameCube/Xbox and still look good in 2024. Now half the XBO, Series, PS4, & PS5 libraries are just ports, remasters, & remakes of games from that Generation. It's why more people are interested in Indies & smaller game now.
Re: Fallout Gets Gorgeous Dynamic Background On Xbox Ahead Of TV Show Debut
@Lightning720 It really is difficult to imagine though. "New planets with new stories"? There's already hundreds of planets with nothing that just exist, and only maybe a dozen planets and or moons with something that could very, VERY charitably be considered a town. 'Fallout 4 in space' had amazing potential... and somehow a slice of post-apocalypse Boston has more, well, EVERYTHING than Starfield except empty space. More NPCs, more named NPCs, more settlements, more weapons, more armors, more weapon and armor mods, more things to build for your outposts, more enemy types, more Character Build options...
It's fine if you liked it but I'm sorry, when the majority of the moding community gives up on trying to fix and make a Bethesda game more fun, it's objectively bad at that point.
Re: Fallout Gets Gorgeous Dynamic Background On Xbox Ahead Of TV Show Debut
Don't care about the show; care about the Next-Gen update and rumored Edition w/ all the Creation Club stuff for Fallout 4. Would rather replay that than finish Starfield at this point.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Noticing Subtle Price Changes For Microsoft Rewards
Decrease the amount you can earn, then increase the prices. Just speedrunning wracking up those L's big or small & resentment towards your company.
Re: Two Major Free Perks Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass Very Soon
They need good Perks like this more often, things offering actual content of some kind. As I said before, Skins & coins for a bunch of F2P games you might care about half of at best are not the right way to go, especially when they don't even pick the most popular ones.
Re: Five Games Announced For Xbox Game Pass At March's Partner Preview Showcase
The P3R Expansion Pass is an amazing Perk to give with GPU, Xbox really needs more stuff like that instead of Skins & coins for a dozen F2P games of which you might care about half at most.
Re: Free-To-Play Brawler MultiVersus Appears To Be Teasing Its Return
@Utena-mobile Battle Passes were solely defined in Quality by the last Skin for the paid version, and that's only if you thought it was worth almost $10. Everything else in them weren't very interesting.
Re: Free-To-Play Brawler MultiVersus Appears To Be Teasing Its Return
Wonder if this game fails after going full release if they'll do what they did for the hiatus and just let everything be free offline, or if that itself needs servers even in that state.
Re: Soapbox: 15 Years On, We Reckon Capcom Should Have A Crack At Resident Evil 5 Remake
@Lup With a company like Capcom I can't really complain about Remakes and collections considering they're still putting out new games, and good new games at that.
Re: Xbox Unveils Custom SpongeBob Series X, And You Can Actually Buy It
I gotta BE the marble!
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In April 2024
Loop Hero is a great lil' game, but it leaving isn't a big deal since it's been added to the GP Deals rotation. Would 100% recommend for the $5.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Make Use Of Cloud Gaming On Xbox Game Pass?
Only ever touched it for Game Pass Quests, and even then every 2 out of 3 games were just faster to download than to wait for the cloud.
Re: Killer Instinct Xbox Update Adds New Visual Enhancements, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Feel safe saying KI is being prepped for PS5. If not it's very coincidental they started testing Ranked Crossplay & giving it big updates around the same time Microsoft internally decided to make more exclusives Multiplat. Like how the old CoD servers magically were fixed the day the Activision merger got okay'd.
Re: Cowabunga! We're Getting Another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Game On Xbox
@Vipor007 It's on my radar, just waiting for it to hit a new low as of now.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying The Star Wars: Battlefront 'Classic Collection'?
Maybe I'll mess around with it after it comes to EA Play 6+ months later. Maybe.