@TryToBeHopeful Pro is great now as if you sign up today you've got access to like 50+ games, and I've had it almost since day one that I have a library of about 150 games in Pro.

Just on launch was only 4 games, and had took time to build that library up of always around 50 games in the service.

Sounds like that women Xbox took on after Stadia pulled out of exclusives (they've still had the odd indie like Wavetale), might have paid off with High on Life and Kojima game.

It is a bit of a shame though as the tech works, and games like these might have brought people in especially if put on Pro.

C from me as no wow games, and the graphic afterwards for 2022 at least wasn't all that.

@XxEvilAshxX Yep as I already play the game on my PS4/5, where my mate only has a XSX he would be a new audience.

I can only see that I tell my mate the game is great, and he goes hey Guts can I get that on my XSX.

Had them all (Not sure why One X is listed as just a One enhanced) and the OG is my favourite.

My Series X, so far is a ? As sure the best way to play loads of games, but it has nothing that makes it special IMO at the moment maybe in a few years when we've had Hellblade II, Fable, Starfield, ESO VI, Avowed my answer will change.

Even the new boxart will have same problem like Hot Wheels new boxart would say Xbox One & Series X for the Xbox One version and the Series X box would just have Series X and the logo in the corner. Only difference it be in white.

The Annapurna Showcase was great but some games exclusive to Xbox e.g. Artful Escape, some Switch e.g. Neon White, some PlayStation e.g. Stray.

That I just see it some systems get some games and some don't, why I have/will have all three systems to just play great games regardless of system.

I do get that a multiformat publisher deciding to do this with some games only on one system etc that is a tad annoying.

@russbeer yeah lol but have bought this now but really the savings of Game Pass and buying Nintendo's games for £50 anything helps

That might be the best month yet and sure we've had GTAV and stuff like Yakuza but a lot of new games here which Last Stop & Ascent will be great, hopefully.

Okay I've gone from I might play if it comes to Game Pass to might get it

@blinx01 I didn't know that, as I just saw all these comments on here and elsewhere going on about a $70 Director's Cut which I just saw as the base game, dlc etc and to me that just looked like GOTY edition that we've had those for decades that wasn't sure of the problem people had with it.

Like Dying Light Platinum Edition just announced for Switch for 50 with all the content.

I don't get the bashing of the Ghost Directors Cut as you can just buy the DLC and the DLC is being rumored to be about 15hrs long (I very much doubt it) and if you've not played before you can buy it all together in one package.

I don't know how this any different to likes of Witcher 3 GOTY Edition, Gears 5 GOTY Edition or Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition all got re-released at RRP with all the content.

To me this what this is, like I bought HZD at launch then bought the DLC when that come out and others would have bought the expansions for Witcher 3 where could have waited for a complete bundle.

@Doctorwhoooourgh You mean Village and that wasn't the case, the Xbox version couldn't have extras over the PlayStation like an extra map for mercs. Also come out after deals like this done all the time between them all, and we know it was a thing back in the day for 360.

@Hypnotoad107 could be that, just basing it really on why Stadia originally and something about beyond what console's can do

Also today PlayStation hints on Kojimas socials, we know about Death Stranding Directors Cut though

I'm more curious why it needs to be played through the cloud, as it seems to be the Stadia game they pulled funding from and MS have now picked up instead.

FFVII exclusive stuff is weird as when Yuffie was announced it was just her being touted as PS5 exclusive, and I took it to be like Avengers which Spider-Man will only be on PlayStation.

Then it was announced Intergrade 6 months exclusive, so is the PS4 version able to come elsewhere?
Can the remaster come elsewhere, but no Yuffie?
Will it come elsewhere in 6 months, but not Yuffie?
Will everything including Yuffie come elsewhere in 6 months?

IO is an odd one as they only just went independent from Square (I think).

The whole more studios one is odd as if Xbox do get a monopoly could lead to worse games, but competition is a good thing.

Really though all these studios be it 23 or 26, I want to see the games now.

Yet the exclusives on both PlayStation and Nintendo, will make buy those systems.

Sure MS going in different direction and someone wants to play Halo Infinite can use the Cloud Stick instead of getting a console and still a MS service being used.

What mightyant said this was an interesting review which was rather positive as well with only the one negative which they even turn into positive.

To me if Xbox takes this feedback on board for these internal reviews, what does that mean to a Perfect Dark in terms of VO, Graphics, Story etc but improve on where they feel TLoU is weak with fantastic gunplay then to me, that's good.

Overall better games from all companies is only a good thing.

I'm playing on Series X and my only issue I would have said is load times. Other games spoiled me or it's Nier having so many of them, makes it seem worse.

I love Game Pass and why Xbox is now my main system now, along with not getting a PS5 at the moment as I'm waiting for the bigger 1st party games for that, as that all I be playing on it.

Yet even if there wasn't a deal I don't expect every game to come to Game Pass or in a timely manner, Res Evil Village is one till today I wouldn't even think about it in regard to Game Pass for a few years at least.

Outriders and MLB has spoiled us, on what we should be expecting.

@mousieone Square RT a Game Pass tweet which they put seven eyes and the timed deal by PS4 box ends this month

Also seen a "insider" say not sure on Persona but Xbox will be getting more PlayStation like deals with Japanese games such as Octopath before PlayStation

@mousieone Looks like Final Fantasy VII Remake is the new rumor anyway

Seen Jez sort maybe debunk this

@Medic_Alert the artstyle what piqued my interest compared to what we see from Dynasty

@Snake_V5 @Krzzystuff still not enough like why is Atelier Ryza 2 on PS5, PS4, Switch and PC same goes for Persona 5 Strikers and Legend of Mana showed last night at the Nintendo Direct

I can think of others as well which are basically on every format part from Xbox

Shadows of the Damned is actually getting delisted, so after this you'd have to either own it physical or buy digital now otherwise that's it.

12 Minutes especially as it was meant to come December then got delayed

@Justifier That would be the easiest way but tad annoying as I just bought DMC5SE on Series X

@KilloWertz

Am excited for The Medium I should have said I knew about that one but

I've not seen much mate beyond that, and I do frequent here and the two sister sites Push Square and Nintendo Life again that's how I know along with other places Returnal is March for PS5 and Pokémon Snap is April for Switch.

Wonder what version as it's one of a few games with just a Series XS version and if that come to Game Pass then ONE owners can't play it. If it was the other way around then Series XS owners be playing the ONE version but would be playable

I hope to hear what's coming as even though I don't own a PS5 at the moment I've got a rough idea what's coming and same for my Switch but for Xbox part from Halo and console version of Flight Sim what's coming?

I can see Ubisoft+ being part of a version of Game Pass (maybe like a premium Game Pass which gives DLC for likes of Forza) but otherwise seems too good to be true when Ubisoft+ is £10 a month on its own on PC, Luna and Stadia then to be part of a service with no extra cost like EA Play was only £20ish a year anyway

So if Ubisoft+ comes to console why would anyone Xbox pay just £10 a month for Ubisoft+, if they could get that and more for the same amount

Also, the rest of that list in the tweet seems like hopeful predictions more than anything

"but with more titles" Didn't know 3000 was more than 4000

@BlueOcean its one of those things like maybe if i had sold my Xbox One X instead of my PS4 I'd would go Xbox Series X day one as it does this and this for me, why I kept the One X because of my 400+ games, Game Pass and for 3rd parties at the moment such as Tony Hawk better place to play than PS4

Where I was done with PS4 (I may have played
Fall Guys) and getting what I did for it on ebay was a lot that its paid for the PS5

@thejameswhogames If you've not had an Xbox One then getting a Series X or S is the better system even just for Game Pass as you'll have like 200+ games with a bunch looking better on the new systems and you can go back to stuff like Sunset Overdrive that you've missed

@BlueOcean Not sure how many of the 1st party PlayStation Studio games we will see on PC

The timed stuff from others is only really good for people like me, as I get to play Godfall right away and The Medium right away but can see it being annoying for some or swinging them one way as has me as I'm interested in three of the timed exclusives on PlayStation compared to just the one on Xbox this year that we know of

@thejameswhogames Where reports it was coming to PC but then after it seems with a mix-up of a video, that is coming to PS5 only.

EDIT just seen the rumours of Demons of PS4 from a store in Hungry, seems odd not to announce it for PS4 when others have such as

The PS4 & PS5 games are confirmed are Miles Morales, Sackboy, Horizon Forbidden West from 1st party then you do have the indies like Bugsnax and Goodbye Volcano High which are PS4/PS5 also sometimes PC as well

As someone that doesn't have a PS4 as I sold mine during lockdown as going for a pretty penny on eBay. That I've got on day one like 6+ new games on the PS5 where on Series X as I have a One X which is my main system why I didn't sell during lockdown there's not a lot of new games at the minute

I'm just really waiting for Halo or another big Xbox game I want to look as good as it can which means playing on a XSX over a One X or a handful of games like The Medium that are just on Series X|S.

@BlueOcean Yep Zelda is my fav series and I loathe BotW

@Xiovanni Yep why I'm waiting on the Series X as I've played likes of Gears 5, a lot of 3rd party stuff (which I can get on PS5), where on PS5 I got Miles (I don't have a PS4 sold during lockdown when going for a decent amount of money), Demons, Godfall, Sackboy and don't forget Bugsnax on day one with Ratchet in the launch window

Just waiting for that Halo or another big Xbox game which I want to look best it can or a handful Series only games such as The Medium

@Friendly personally feel BotW is maybe the most overrated game ever, also it's on WiiU (where I do own it) so something like Miles Morales is in a similar position to it in that regards. I think Demons Souls will be the closet to it from a critical standpoint.

Big fan of Halo, bought Metroid Prime for my Cube thinking it be Nintendo's Halo. I was very wrong and such a different game

@BlueOcean PS5 Launch line up

Assassin's Creed Valhalla
Astro's Playroom, Built in
Borderlands 3
Bugsnax
Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition
Demon's Souls
Destruction AllStars
Dirt 5
Fortnite
Godfall
Just Dance 2021
Maneater
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, (Spider-Man Remastered available via Ultimate Edition)
Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate
NBA 2K21
Observer: System Redux
The Pathless
Planet Coaster
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Watch Dogs: Legion

So yeah about 50% more on Xbox but I would think likes of War Thunder, WRC will be confirmed for PS5 launch now they've been confirmed for Xbox Series X|S. That I would think they'll end up being about the same.

Personally had:

OG Xbox Black
OG Xbox Crystal
Xbox 360 Core
Xbox 360 Elite
Xbox 360 Slim
Xbox One
Xbox One
Xbox One Forza Blue
Xbox One S
Xbox One X

Had those at least then had a market stall where I would have owned Xboxes and got a OG Xbox Crystal at the moment in my collection that I picked up at a boot sale

@FraserG yeah just seen them tweet info

What about One X, I'm guessing 1440p 60fps or something

COD Cold War is almost a launch game as it's out November 13th, just remember at retail it's a Series X game (NBA 2K21 is the same deal) and digital you have to get the cross-gen version to get the upgrade or buy the Series X|S designed version

Day one buy from me,

It's one remaster game thing. Where the PS4 games are getting free upgrade and are all the 3rd party games are such as Dirt 5 like on Xbox

Now if we start seeing a bunch of remasters for 1st party games that on Xbox would just be free upgrades then yeah can see the issue

@BlueOcean
Yeah, can't wait for them look at Immortals Fenyx Rising as it be on PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5, Xbox One, One X, Series S, Series S, Switch, Stadia, PC

@BlueOcean you say it was assumed but seems it wasn't by some (by the accounts, die hard Xbox fans) and isn't just textures as we have the asset example with the crowd or weather, where the replies etc I got were on lines it be exactly the same even though MS saying up to the devs.

As the interview puts it "Does that matter? And is that really the experience that's aimed at that person that has spent £250 buying a Series S?"

And I think the S will be a huge success, but I was pointing out why I was getting an X at the time

@BlueOcean I tweeted similar to what you're saying and had reply after reply saying S will be the same as X but in 1440p, yet this interview and even some Microsoft wording says stuff about assets like in this case with Dirt 5, "the amount of crowd or intensity of weather or shadow quality"

Forgot about The Outer Worlds DLC, we get a discount via Game Pas right?