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@Banjo- I going to have to take out a second mortgage (haven't got a first yet) to buy all the Nintendo things, and unlike the others only place to get the games at least at worse I could wait a year for Ghost of Yotei to come to PC.

@Banjo- yeah seen Gears R has over 1m players, but again one of those number sites well it only sold 295k on PS5 but then have Forza Horizon 5 number of 3.5m on PS5 also the breakdown of Mafia Old Country numbers but as you could be wrong how that 1.2m broken down between PS5, Xbox & PC.

Seen Remake is £40 on the eShop and comes with OG VII, which seems pretty good price seeing Nintendo want £34 per Wii game

Edit will say "IF" XVI was 22k at £50 per sell that's £1.1m, like how much would it really cost to port from PS5/PC seeing all this hardware pretty similar then take away marketing like Ben Starr sat on Xbox trailer, likely still a good chuck of money made.

@Banjo- that was me with the 22k for FFXVI on Push (have never said people won't play VII on Xbox though do think most be on NS2) as I said above to @millionski that's the number touted by Alinea Analytics which could be wrong, till otherwise the only number we have but as @TrollOfWar has said a few factors maybe why shadowdrop, price, same time as Expedtion 33 etc

@Millionski I don't see why Alinea Analytics, Circana, GFK and others would lie about numbers, and they post good numbers like Helldivers what 900k last we heard, not just Mafia Old Country did 100k on Xbox.

Though I will say I do some release things a few places and have seen LAD Pirate Yakuza, Cronos The New Dawn, Ninja Gaiden Ragebound skip physical on Xbox but of course still available digitally and then brings up a whole different thing of Digital v Physical but still must be a reason skipping, though the Series S most of the current Xbox I would think from data we do have.

@ElectricWizard NeXt-Box having steam, epic (though rumored steam console would also do the same) make me have one as half the time can't be bothered to plug my laptop into the TV to play PC Game Pass but can't see me making my main system as my library of PS4, PS5 games hopefully carry forward to PS6

NS2 because Nintendo the reason have that

@Millionski I'm going to get the physical come November as it is a proper physical as well

@Millionski yeah and not being an a$$ here but see from reports ect games don't sell well on Xbox, and other things mentioned here like cost of paying for exclusive by Sony would that out weigh the numbers the game would do on Xbox (I think it will do great on NS2 especially in Japan) but as @Sindayl said has damage been done to brand that Sony don't need to then with all these systems being so similar now & stuff like DLSS that dev costs aren't high that worth putting time in as you say 5m SteamDeck.

And Push Square which @rivergenie brings up that yes maybe I'm part of, but that was more of the wording from the article & what might or might not be and to me then the games being on all systems. Then t's more about Square as big fan and how they always talk about everything being a flop, on how going forward if games on everything what will the excuse be going forward when X only does a few million (which compared to other games be a decent number, I look at Capcom) but they wanted 10m+ for reasons

@Fishmasterflex96 hence why I said maybe

@TrollOfWar why said elsewhere see what FFXVII does.

Gaming landscape changing as well you'd think for XVII be PS6 then will that be to costly for people to buy, NeXt-Box more of a PC would people just buy it off steam, could it be a cross-gen title and so on

Any game (part from Nintendo) has to be on PC right away now, that's where the gaming audince seems to be going.

@Kaloudz yeah why super curious where Square goes as company, as one year I played like 32 games just from them and almost everyone was considered a flop

And I just can't see a Final Fantasy doing 10m+ this day & age

Especially when compared to Capcom, SEGA and even Konami at the moment of what Square does

@BacklogBrad everything so similar now that even if only a few hundred thousands like reported for Mafia on Xbox, likely worth it

There’s a physical coming in November, maybe could on all formats by then

@Lup who will Square blame now?

As this is a company that said Tomb Raider flopped by selling 8m and still getting two more games

@Questionable_Duck it's implied but not confirmed though

That's that point think everyone was making on Push Square, and how the article title says confirmed. Nintendo Life, think just said Trilogy coming, which that it does say

As it has been pointed out on Push Sqaure by many people, where does it say anywhere releasing the same time on NS2 and Xbox for Part III?

Just that the trilogy is coming to NS2/Xbox, still got to get Rebirth on those. And then Part III could be timed for 6 months for PS5/PC, then come to NS2/Xbox the statement from Square would still be true

Lot if those PlayStation players have had history with before, like DOOM been on PlayStation since the PS1, and you'd think Bethesda would have put on PS before selling. It be interesting how likes of Avowed (If it gets ported) the new IP without any history do.

Why not one in Aug, one in Sep and one in Oct then I sub to 3 months of PC Game Pass instead of needing to sub for one month for instance

Always like new hardware but IF I can get that COD, Gears on PS5, I do wonder why I'd jump into this Xbox. Know lots only play on Xbox will want new hardware still but can't see it being like the 360 with that headstart which they may want as feel the whole this is an Xbox message may have took hold.

Unless MS has paid to get them on Game Pass, so worth Squares effort as when these don't sell on Xbox. What's Square excuse going to be when a game doesn't sell a billionz copies

When the games don't sell on Xbox, wonder what Square's excuse will be now.

Not that they put out 42 games in 4 years, that's a game every 5 weeks with a lot not being of great quality (and I've played most of them) with a bunch being exclusive to PlayStation and more to Nintendo, that they're all over the place where the games are.

Don't worry, the NFT game is happening.

Gens used to be 5.5 years long on avg.

That if next Xbox is 2026 which was rumoured and stuff brought up in court cases, that's 6 years. And if same rumours etc for PS6 in 2027, that's 7 years and they've said PS5 over halfway and 4 years into a gen seems over halfway to me.

So I don't see how it is a short gen, like that last one was 7 years, if avg is 6.5 years for Series/PS5.

@Sifi think you still missing the point, about paying for subs be it Game Pass, Plus, Netflix, Disney that they're not FREE as you're paying to access content

@Banjo- the PlayStation ones like MLB seem to be down to licensing and Helldivers II rumours been squashed multiple times. Seeing PS5 been the most profitable gen for PlayStation, not sure they need to go elsewhere. Think with live service games such as Concord, needs a player place that PC gamers seem to jump in on them.

But I've actually said for years, should just be here's your machine be it from Sony, Samsung, LG, Microsoft and just play games on them. Like at the moment I own a PS5, Series S and Switch because only way to play all the games, so one box be great. Yes I know I'm just asking for a PC 😂

@Sifi I don't pay £12.99 a month (actually got 9 months for £36 recently), it was like a few of the other replies that paying for something isn't free.

Like my Disney+ subscription isn't free as I pay for that.

Also have got deals on PSN but buy credit of a CDKEYS then use that to buy Plus etc

When did likes of Game Pass become free, sure it's £12.99 a month. Going to go watch Star Wars for free on Disney+

@NEStalgia that's my point Square are odd like why put Saga Emerald on Switch, PS4, PS5, PC, iOS and Android like why missout Xbox, then ya have something like Octopath Traveller that even came to Stadia but missed PlayStation

@Banjo- yeah we know PlayStation has that I agree with but we don't really know if Nintendo paid for Triangle Strategy to only be Nintendo, Live A Live was a timed exclusive then came to PlayStation they must have paid for that, that's to name a few not the other dozens of games. As can't see Square doing it for the goodness of there heart, must be money involved somewhere.

Not saying either right, it's more people only seem to care about Final Fantasy, yet Square makes loads of games and I'd like to have them all on my one system. Seems very selective the complaining.

Oddly PS5 has nearly caught up to PS4 in Japan

What I never get is articles like this always brings up PlayStation and the Square exclusives on that. Yet, there's more Square exclusives on Switch and no one ever talks about those 🤔 as I can't play Paranormasight on my PS or Xbox, where's the outrage for that.

Then it's always X flopped because only on PlayStation, we don't know if Sony paid what might been the amount sold elsewhere as Xbox % often low, PC likely should be there day one. Square in 2023 put out 34 games, how do they expect that many games to do well and I remember how they said Tomb Raider underperformed but sold like 8m.

I really think they expect too much from there games.

As someone that's bought a OG, 360, ONE, ONE X and Series X at launch. I don't see the need to buy the NeXt-Box, "IF" I can play Gears or Elder Scrolls on a PS6. As I've owned those systems and others for the exclusives, that's the selling point to me not Game Pass.

Though the rumored handheld I'd be keen on for a bunch of Game Pass indies.

I'll be playing on UPLay+ anyway, and wouldn't that be the ultimate edition of the game as well.

What is this Horizon? As had anniversary etc re-imagining of the OG then the reboot, do we really need third time

Game is on Switch as well and looks good on the system, that this looking good on Series S isn't surprising.

@TryToBeHopeful see I'd say it's miles better than Gold or Plus which most comparable to and then library doesn't stay (like if signed up now I'd have 4 games not 50) with Jedi Fallen Order, Life is Strange, Wavetale, Ys etc

@TryToBeHopeful Pro is great now as if you sign up today you've got access to like 50+ games, and I've had it almost since day one that I have a library of about 150 games in Pro.

Just on launch was only 4 games, and had took time to build that library up of always around 50 games in the service.

Sounds like that women Xbox took on after Stadia pulled out of exclusives (they've still had the odd indie like Wavetale), might have paid off with High on Life and Kojima game.

It is a bit of a shame though as the tech works, and games like these might have brought people in especially if put on Pro.

C from me as no wow games, and the graphic afterwards for 2022 at least wasn't all that.

@XxEvilAshxX Yep as I already play the game on my PS4/5, where my mate only has a XSX he would be a new audience.

I can only see that I tell my mate the game is great, and he goes hey Guts can I get that on my XSX.

Had them all (Not sure why One X is listed as just a One enhanced) and the OG is my favourite.

My Series X, so far is a ? As sure the best way to play loads of games, but it has nothing that makes it special IMO at the moment maybe in a few years when we've had Hellblade II, Fable, Starfield, ESO VI, Avowed my answer will change.

Even the new boxart will have same problem like Hot Wheels new boxart would say Xbox One & Series X for the Xbox One version and the Series X box would just have Series X and the logo in the corner. Only difference it be in white.

The Annapurna Showcase was great but some games exclusive to Xbox e.g. Artful Escape, some Switch e.g. Neon White, some PlayStation e.g. Stray.

That I just see it some systems get some games and some don't, why I have/will have all three systems to just play great games regardless of system.

I do get that a multiformat publisher deciding to do this with some games only on one system etc that is a tad annoying.

@russbeer yeah lol but have bought this now but really the savings of Game Pass and buying Nintendo's games for £50 anything helps

That might be the best month yet and sure we've had GTAV and stuff like Yakuza but a lot of new games here which Last Stop & Ascent will be great, hopefully.

Okay I've gone from I might play if it comes to Game Pass to might get it

@blinx01 I didn't know that, as I just saw all these comments on here and elsewhere going on about a $70 Director's Cut which I just saw as the base game, dlc etc and to me that just looked like GOTY edition that we've had those for decades that wasn't sure of the problem people had with it.

Like Dying Light Platinum Edition just announced for Switch for 50 with all the content.

I don't get the bashing of the Ghost Directors Cut as you can just buy the DLC and the DLC is being rumored to be about 15hrs long (I very much doubt it) and if you've not played before you can buy it all together in one package.

I don't know how this any different to likes of Witcher 3 GOTY Edition, Gears 5 GOTY Edition or Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition all got re-released at RRP with all the content.

To me this what this is, like I bought HZD at launch then bought the DLC when that come out and others would have bought the expansions for Witcher 3 where could have waited for a complete bundle.

@Doctorwhoooourgh You mean Village and that wasn't the case, the Xbox version couldn't have extras over the PlayStation like an extra map for mercs. Also come out after deals like this done all the time between them all, and we know it was a thing back in the day for 360.

@Hypnotoad107 could be that, just basing it really on why Stadia originally and something about beyond what console's can do

Also today PlayStation hints on Kojimas socials, we know about Death Stranding Directors Cut though

I'm more curious why it needs to be played through the cloud, as it seems to be the Stadia game they pulled funding from and MS have now picked up instead.

FFVII exclusive stuff is weird as when Yuffie was announced it was just her being touted as PS5 exclusive, and I took it to be like Avengers which Spider-Man will only be on PlayStation.

Then it was announced Intergrade 6 months exclusive, so is the PS4 version able to come elsewhere?
Can the remaster come elsewhere, but no Yuffie?
Will it come elsewhere in 6 months, but not Yuffie?
Will everything including Yuffie come elsewhere in 6 months?

IO is an odd one as they only just went independent from Square (I think).

The whole more studios one is odd as if Xbox do get a monopoly could lead to worse games, but competition is a good thing.

Really though all these studios be it 23 or 26, I want to see the games now.