@John_Deacon I heard from a friend our ISP is throttling game traffic at peak times. Haven't looked into it too much but could be that I guess. I started cyberpunk preloading after midnight and all 59GB downloaded in about 20mins. Wish it was like that all the time.
All the reports of bugs and CDPR going out of their way to stop reviewers accessing the console versions early is really putting me off playing it day one.
I have a friend who sold his One X to get the cyberpunk one on sale. Broke even but got the game for free I guess. He's going to die when he sees this. 😆
Went a bit crazy and got 66 games so far. A lot of super cheap older stuff and long running game series and collections I always wanted to play. May yet get the monster Hunter work bundle as well. Should keep me going for the next year or three.
Is there a reason why Watch Dogs: Legion is left out? That's one of the only games with ray traced reflections to show off the new hardware. Come to think of it Devil May Cry 5 is left of here too.
Some great deals here on series I’d love to play like prey and dishonoured. Have added up everything I want and comes to £200. Glad I didn’t get that Seagate SSD now. 😀
Colt Eastwood has a great video today covering this. Basically these next generation games are Xbox ports of PS5 games.
PS5 Dev tools have been ready since mid 2019 and Series XS Dev tools are only being sent to developers now. So devs ported the PS5 code however they could and the extra grunt of series x is making performance about equal.
When games actually come out using game core with the extra 16-20% of raw GPU power and then add in the velocity architecture and Variable rate shading for another 30% we could be looking at next holidays games running 50% better on series x. In theory anyway.
@John117 It works with Xbox and PC with the wireless dongle thing sold separately. Which makes it all the more amusing Corsair support asked me to try it on a different device when I told them it has issues connecting lol.
I was hoping for a newer version of the Artctis 9x with USBC but they seemed to not be doing the connect like a controller thing now so pulled the trigger on the new Corsair HB75 which I'm surprised is'n't in this round up? It's been reviewed by the Verge and IGN with high marks. Loving it so far. very comfortable and a great sound.
Although every wireless headset seems to be having connection issues with Series X right now. Restarting the console fixes it for a day or two. (tried with my old Turtle Beach Stealth 600 which was perfect on the one x but same connection issues on the Series X) I've reported it to Microsoft and they said they are aware of the issue and working on a fix.
My 1 gigabit connection was downloading at around 500k on Ethernet since launch day here in the UK. Was downloading games at 753mbps this afternoon tho so it was getting better before the US PS55 launch at least.
@antstephenson I ordered a charge kit from Argos and they sent me a white controller instead. They said I can keep it and are sending me the charge kit next week.
Ordered from Argos here in the UK. Along with a. Play and charge kit. But they sent an extra controller instead. They said I can keep the pad for the trouble and sending out the charge kit next week. I can live without it till then. Happened to at least one other person who also bought same from Argos too.
Really loved Tell me Why and looked forward to the release of each episode. Would love more like this endgame pass. I look forward to checking out more Dontnod games too.
@BANJO delisted in this case means not for sale after a certain point. If you have already bought it digitally or have a physical disc it will download as normal.
@StonyKL assuming most games PS4 will play on PS5 the ‘enhancements’ will be like a PS4 Pro boost mod, the frame rate will be a little more stable if you’re lucky dynamic res will top out at whatever is was built for often 1440p.
That a big difference from Backward compatible games playing on series X with double the frame rate or more to 60/120. Auto HDR added and rendered at full 4K. And that’s just the regular enhancements not anything patched like gears.
But neither of the things is what Xbox calls smart delivery. It literally means you get the best version of the game for the console you’re playing on.
imagine if Xbox locked the Series X update for Gears 5 behind a $50 purchase of Gears Tactics, and then charged you an additional $20 to even play it. Thats what Sony is pulling here.
I’ve heard the sales increase was due to bots mistakenly buying them.
The names are confusing at first glance but then there are also two switches on sale and one doesn’t even switch. No one seems to have an issue with that?
When you consider Xbox’s plan is to name and sell them like iPhones X and S make a lot of sense.
Apparently Xbox stock on Average was 3x higher than PS5. With one Gamestop in the US receiving the most allocation in their state of 33 Series X and 13 Series X. By comparison the same store got 6 PS5.
So while any in demand product is going to crash websites and stock is still limited. Microsoft seemed to do a lot better than Sony.
@KelticDevil I agree. I’m absolutely glad MS put it back. They made the hard call. But footage from the Halo demo is still being used in marketing for series x/s and it really doesn’t sit well with the ‘no pop in’ statements.
They’re great statements to make. And I’m going to order a Series X next week if I can get one in stock. But stories like these about no pop in just make the Halo debacle even more embarrassing.
@AJDarkstar I think if you look for horror stories you’re going to find them. My friend has a decent Samsung LED TV that’s died on him twice in two years.
First of all Samsung and the shop fought over who should fix it in the first few months and the more recently this year when something broke he was told he had to pay for an engineer to come out (at the height of lockdown in the UK) to assess the TV at his own expense.
and if it was broken they’d fix it then but he’s still be out of pocket for the assessment. And that’s a regular LED TV. Luckily he likes arguing and over a series of weeks escalated to head office where they approved the repair.
I’d suggest getting down to a specially TV store if you have them in your area (and it’s Covid safe to do so) and chat to the guys there about stuff. Any TV can break but most are fine and you people are enjoying them too much to post on the internet about it. It’s why you only read horror stories.
At this point the longer you wait the better deal you’ll get. You’ll love it when you finally take the plunge.
@AJDarkstar I did try and vary content at first but I've played 260+ hours of fortnite with buddies alone and still looks great. The horror stories I've read about burn in at stores are because they don't leave the TVs plugged in overnight and let them do a compensation cycle to fix them themselves. The One X even has an 'OLED HEALING Pattern' designed to reduce burn in when the screen dims. If you look close it kinda moves across the screen in a subtle wave. I hope Series X has that too
@AJDarkstar cool. As I understood it as consoles are designed to output over 8bit so forcing 4.2.2 just makes your TV up sample the colours and then down sample them back to 4.2.0 to display? But it’s been a while since I looked into it and then it was all Reddit posts and tech papers so I may be wrong.
I have a Sony AF9 OLED that is glorious 😆 I don’t think it will get a HDMI 2.1 update but I’m not too bothered. I know I can do 1440 @ 120 because i have that option with the One X now.
Interestingly. Series X isn’t the full HDMI 2.1 48GB spec. It’ only supports 40GB Not that it matters. A lot of flagship TVs only support 40GB too like the LG CX.
The different between 40/48 isn’t something you’d ever notice in practice. But I’m sure it will make headline at some point.
@AJDarkstar yeah. Because of the HDMI 2.0 bandwidth limitations you can either have 4K 60fps or 1440p 120fps. That’s why you have so many YouTube videos reviewing the HDI 2.1 sets saying they have nothing to use it and hooking up PCs to game at 1440p 120.
Exactly what I was saying. To be clear. The blame is with 505 Games. But I've seen a lot of critiscm from gamers willing to pay an 'upgrade fee' for their existing version and asking why that isn't available. I was trying to explain why. They can't do it because of Microsoft.
Cool. It looks great and I’m sure I’ll love it but I’d rather play it friends and with covid were not about to visit each other’s houses. It’s still strange there has been no comment on whether it’s planned as an update or just never coming. I’ve only read the review here and IGN and neither mentioned the lack of online co-op. I just naturally assumed it had it.
I’m not saying that at all. I would like it to be free also. Just explaining the situation as it’s stands and trying to answer an often seen question of - why can’t they just add the next gen update as DLC for the regular game. Because MS won’t let them.
What I haven’t seen mentioned in any coverage of this is that Microsoft have a mandate where a publisher can’t charge and in-game fee to offer a next-gen update.
I guess they did that to discourage everyone charging money for upgrades and make them lean toward free. The work around seems to be offering a different edition of the game entirely. Which is what’s happening here.
So yes, it sucks. But they can’t offer an in app purchase for the original due to MS rules.
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Re: New Xbox Feature Will Reveal Why Your Downloads Are Going Slow
@John_Deacon I heard from a friend our ISP is throttling game traffic at peak times. Haven't looked into it too much but could be that I guess. I started cyberpunk preloading after midnight and all 59GB downloaded in about 20mins. Wish it was like that all the time.
Re: New Xbox Feature Will Reveal Why Your Downloads Are Going Slow
That said. I just quit all the games in the recently played and overcooked 2 is still downloading at 500k on a 1gigabit line Ethernet to Xbox.
Re: New Xbox Feature Will Reveal Why Your Downloads Are Going Slow
This would be super useful. I’ve always wondered why some downloads limp along
Re: Random: Pulling A Sickie On Cyberpunk 2077's Launch Day? Xbox Is On To You
All the reports of bugs and CDPR going out of their way to stop reviewers accessing the console versions early is really putting me off playing it day one.
Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World Finally Returns To Xbox Next Month
Very cool. Remember playing this at a friends house on ps3 years ago. Looking forward to picking this up now I’m back into gaming.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About Cyberpunk 2077
With every single review mentioning bugs I think I’ll push this till there’s a next gen patch and hopefully they’ll be fixed by then
Re: Random: This Custom Cyberpunk 2077 Xbox Series X Is A Thing Of Beauty
I have a friend who sold his One X to get the cyberpunk one on sale. Broke even but got the game for free I guess. He's going to die when he sees this. 😆
Re: Talking Point: What Have You Bought In The Xbox Black Friday Sale?
Went a bit crazy and got 66 games so far. A lot of super cheap older stuff and long running game series and collections I always wanted to play. May yet get the monster Hunter work bundle as well. Should keep me going for the next year or three.
Re: Best Xbox Series X Games To Play Right Now
Is there a reason why Watch Dogs: Legion is left out? That's one of the only games with ray traced reflections to show off the new hardware. Come to think of it Devil May Cry 5 is left of here too.
Re: Deals: Xbox Black Friday Sale Now Live, 700+ Games Discounted
Some great deals here on series I’d love to play like prey and dishonoured. Have added up everything I want and comes to £200. Glad I didn’t get that Seagate SSD now. 😀
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Has Become The Biggest Launch In The Series' History
Colt Eastwood has a great video today covering this. Basically these next generation games are Xbox ports of PS5 games.
PS5 Dev tools have been ready since mid 2019 and Series XS Dev tools are only being sent to developers now. So devs ported the PS5 code however they could and the extra grunt of series x is making performance about equal.
When games actually come out using game core with the extra 16-20% of raw GPU power and then add in the velocity architecture and Variable rate shading for another 30% we could be looking at next holidays games running 50% better on series x. In theory anyway.
Re: Operation 5: Hollow Storm Is Gears 5's Largest Post-Launch Update Ever
Should Gabe Diaz show up In the characters page or or just on multiplayer? I completed the gears tactics tutorial but can’t find him in gears 5.
Re: Review: Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War - Par For The Course, But Undeniably Fun
@Bezbot ahh ok cool. thanks.
Re: Review: Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War - Par For The Course, But Undeniably Fun
I thought the Zombies mode was playstation exclusive?
Re: The Best Xbox Series X Headsets For 2020
@John117 It works with Xbox and PC with the wireless dongle thing sold separately. Which makes it all the more amusing Corsair support asked me to try it on a different device when I told them it has issues connecting lol.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your First Impressions Of The Xbox Series X|S?
Back to 650mbps+ download speeds on Series X now. Certainly made updating Gears 5 just now faster.
Re: The Best Xbox Series X Headsets For 2020
I was hoping for a newer version of the Artctis 9x with USBC but they seemed to not be doing the connect like a controller thing now so pulled the trigger on the new Corsair HB75 which I'm surprised is'n't in this round up? It's been reviewed by the Verge and IGN with high marks. Loving it so far. very comfortable and a great sound.
Although every wireless headset seems to be having connection issues with Series X right now. Restarting the console fixes it for a day or two. (tried with my old Turtle Beach Stealth 600 which was perfect on the one x but same connection issues on the Series X) I've reported it to Microsoft and they said they are aware of the issue and working on a fix.
Re: Talking Point: Which Back Compat Games Have Been Improved The Most By The Xbox Series X?
Haven’t played much yet but Geometry wars with HDR on a TV that handles HDR well is astounding.
Re: Xbox Series X Launch Contributed To Record Broadband Use In The UK
My 1 gigabit connection was downloading at around 500k on Ethernet since launch day here in the UK. Was downloading games at 753mbps this afternoon tho so it was getting better before the US PS55 launch at least.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your First Impressions Of The Xbox Series X|S?
@antstephenson I ordered a charge kit from Argos and they sent me a white controller instead. They said I can keep it and are sending me the charge kit next week.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your First Impressions Of The Xbox Series X|S?
@evan23 I have a gigabit connection and the series x on Ethernet is getting 12mbps 😭
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your First Impressions Of The Xbox Series X|S?
Ordered from Argos here in the UK. Along with a. Play and charge kit. But they sent an extra controller instead. They said I can keep the pad for the trouble and sending out the charge kit next week. I can live without it till then. Happened to at least one other person who also bought same from Argos too.
Re: Interested In More Games Like Tell Me Why? Xbox Wants To Know
Really loved Tell me Why and looked forward to the release of each episode. Would love more like this endgame pass. I look forward to checking out more Dontnod games too.
Re: The Xbox Series X UI Might Not Render At 4K, But Does It Matter?
I've never noticed the One X interface isn't 4K. It would be nice I guess but I'd genuinely rather have an extra 1GB of memory free for games.
Re: Reminder: This Is Your Last Chance To Buy Forza Horizon 3 On Xbox
@BANJO delisted in this case means not for sale after a certain point. If you have already bought it digitally or have a physical disc it will download as normal.
Re: Xbox Throws Shade At PS5 Following Spider-Man Upgrade Debacle
@StonyKL assuming most games PS4 will play on PS5 the ‘enhancements’ will be like a PS4 Pro boost mod, the frame rate will be a little more stable if you’re lucky dynamic res will top out at whatever is was built for often 1440p.
That a big difference from Backward compatible games playing on series X with double the frame rate or more to 60/120. Auto HDR added and rendered at full 4K. And that’s just the regular enhancements not anything patched like gears.
But neither of the things is what Xbox calls smart delivery. It literally means you get the best version of the game for the console you’re playing on.
imagine if Xbox locked the Series X update for Gears 5 behind a $50 purchase of Gears Tactics, and then charged you an additional $20 to even play it. Thats what Sony is pulling here.
Re: Xbox One X Sales Spike On Amazon As Series X Pre-Orders Go Live
I’ve heard the sales increase was due to bots mistakenly buying them.
The names are confusing at first glance but then there are also two switches on sale and one doesn’t even switch. No one seems to have an issue with that?
When you consider Xbox’s plan is to name and sell them like iPhones X and S make a lot of sense.
Re: Xbox Series Pre-Orders Boast 'Record-Breaking Demand', More Stock To Arrive At Launch
Apparently Xbox stock on Average was 3x higher than PS5. With one Gamestop in the US receiving the most allocation in their state of 33 Series X and 13 Series X. By comparison the same store got 6 PS5.
So while any in demand product is going to crash websites and stock is still limited. Microsoft seemed to do a lot better than Sony.
Re: Next-Gen Xbox Will Prioritise Buttery Smooth Gameplay, Says Microsoft
I’m sat hovering over a digital PS5 that’s in stock but cant bring myself to do it.
Re: Next-Gen Xbox Will Prioritise Buttery Smooth Gameplay, Says Microsoft
@KelticDevil I agree. I’m absolutely glad MS put it back. They made the hard call. But footage from the Halo demo is still being used in marketing for series x/s and it really doesn’t sit well with the ‘no pop in’ statements.
Re: Next-Gen Xbox Will Prioritise Buttery Smooth Gameplay, Says Microsoft
They’re great statements to make. And I’m going to order a Series X next week if I can get one in stock. But stories like these about no pop in just make the Halo debacle even more embarrassing.
Re: Guide: How Do Backwards Compatible Games Work On The Xbox Series S/X?
@AJDarkstar I think if you look for horror stories you’re going to find them. My friend has a decent Samsung LED TV that’s died on him twice in two years.
First of all Samsung and the shop fought over who should fix it in the first few months and the more recently this year when something broke he was told he had to pay for an engineer to come out (at the height of lockdown in the UK) to assess the TV at his own expense.
and if it was broken they’d fix it then but he’s still be out of pocket for the assessment. And that’s a regular LED TV. Luckily he likes arguing and over a series of weeks escalated to head office where they approved the repair.
I’d suggest getting down to a specially TV store if you have them in your area (and it’s Covid safe to do so) and chat to the guys there about stuff. Any TV can break but most are fine and you people are enjoying them too much to post on the internet about it. It’s why you only read horror stories.
At this point the longer you wait the better deal you’ll get. You’ll love it when you finally take the plunge.
Re: Guide: How Do Backwards Compatible Games Work On The Xbox Series S/X?
@AJDarkstar I did try and vary content at first but I've played 260+ hours of fortnite with buddies alone and still looks great. The horror stories I've read about burn in at stores are because they don't leave the TVs plugged in overnight and let them do a compensation cycle to fix them themselves. The One X even has an 'OLED HEALING Pattern' designed to reduce burn in when the screen dims. If you look close it kinda moves across the screen in a subtle wave. I hope Series X has that too
Re: Guide: How Do Backwards Compatible Games Work On The Xbox Series S/X?
@AJDarkstar cool. As I understood it as consoles are designed to output over 8bit so forcing 4.2.2 just makes your TV up sample the colours and then down sample them back to 4.2.0 to display? But it’s been a while since I looked into it and then it was all Reddit posts and tech papers so I may be wrong.
I have a Sony AF9 OLED that is glorious 😆 I don’t think it will get a HDMI 2.1 update but I’m not too bothered. I know I can do 1440 @ 120 because i have that option with the One X now.
Re: Guide: How Do Backwards Compatible Games Work On The Xbox Series S/X?
Interestingly. Series X isn’t the full HDMI 2.1 48GB spec. It’ only supports 40GB Not that it matters. A lot of flagship TVs only support 40GB too like the LG CX.
The different between 40/48 isn’t something you’d ever notice in practice. But I’m sure it will make headline at some point.
Re: Guide: How Do Backwards Compatible Games Work On The Xbox Series S/X?
@AJDarkstar yeah. Because of the HDMI 2.0 bandwidth limitations you can either have 4K 60fps or 1440p 120fps. That’s why you have so many YouTube videos reviewing the HDI 2.1 sets saying they have nothing to use it and hooking up PCs to game at 1440p 120.
Re: Guide: How Do Backwards Compatible Games Work On The Xbox Series S/X?
@AJDarkstar current one x can output 1440p at 120fps if a game is compatible. It’s the limit of HDMI 2.0.
It’s actually pretty smart because anyone with an older 4K TV that isn’t HDMI 2.1 can enjoy 120fps gaming on the s.
Re: Control Publisher Says It 'Can't Offer A Next-Gen Upgrade To Everyone'
Exactly what I was saying. To be clear. The blame is with 505 Games. But I've seen a lot of critiscm from gamers willing to pay an 'upgrade fee' for their existing version and asking why that isn't available. I was trying to explain why. They can't do it because of Microsoft.
Re: Review: Battletoads - A Hilarious And Hugely Entertaining Adventure
Cool. It looks great and I’m sure I’ll love it but I’d rather play it friends and with covid were not about to visit each other’s houses. It’s still strange there has been no comment on whether it’s planned as an update or just never coming. I’ve only read the review here and IGN and neither mentioned the lack of online co-op. I just naturally assumed it had it.
Re: Control Publisher Says It 'Can't Offer A Next-Gen Upgrade To Everyone'
I’m not saying that at all. I would like it to be free also. Just explaining the situation as it’s stands and trying to answer an often seen question of - why can’t they just add the next gen update as DLC for the regular game. Because MS won’t let them.
Re: Review: Battletoads - A Hilarious And Hugely Entertaining Adventure
Why do no reviews mention the lack of online multiplayer? Or even if it’s coming later in a patch? Why is it such a mystery?
Re: Control Publisher Says It 'Can't Offer A Next-Gen Upgrade To Everyone'
What I haven’t seen mentioned in any coverage of this is that Microsoft have a mandate where a publisher can’t charge and in-game fee to offer a next-gen update.
I guess they did that to discourage everyone charging money for upgrades and make them lean toward free. The work around seems to be offering a different edition of the game entirely. Which is what’s happening here.
So yes, it sucks. But they can’t offer an in app purchase for the original due to MS rules.