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@themightyant only thing I can suggest is even that list doesn’t account for extras like the gamer score = gamer points for 10,000 or the new game rewards that are around games on launch.

For example, I mentioned buying cyberpunk. If I pre ordered it I got so many thousand and then having it launch week I got another 6000.

There are also bonuses for purchasing games Where if you spend £30 in the time mentioned you can redeemed for a few thousand.

These rewards aren’t accounted for in the list linked to but are fairly regular.

@Krzzystuff yes, but just games in sales. You only get 20 points per £1 spent so even if I spent £100 a month that would only account for 2k points not the 18k difference.

To make up that difference I would have to spend £900 a month on games. And I’m pretty sure the points for purchases are capped at a certain amount per month anyway.

I just don’t think they’re accounting for all the challenges. Doing 10 days in a row gets extra points. There’s monthly surprise treasure on the Xbox dashboard that is around 2000. There are periods where any gamer score you get = points upto 10,000. It all adds up.

This is one of the coolest things about playing on Xbox. I got cyberpunk day one with points (ok not the best gaming purchase lol) and I’n already back up to 62k so I make around 30k points a month. Which is like £25-£30 real money.

Not sure why the estimated monthly amount above is so low? Because I’m not doing anything special just doing all the challenges. Maybe they haven’t taken into account the random treasure rewards and streak rewards.

Is the cut scene camera animation jerkiness specific to Xbox mentioned in digital foundries videos fixed yet? That’s really been putting me off buying it.

@Trainer Me too. It will be great to get some xbox news. It's kinda been all quiet for a bit.

Embargo for this lifts 9am PST time Wednesday a few youtubers have mentioned now.

I think it’s been confirmed that saves from the older version carry forward in case anyone was wondering.

@joey302 thanks. That’s the only game I ever pre-ordered. 😃 have the 360 version too. With the netlfix movie staring Ryan Reynolds as Dirk coming this year I’m hoping if they start back compat up again it gets some love.

Also Dragons Lair 3D. One of the few physical games I own I bought second hand in the hope that one day it would be playable. 😃

@GunValkyrie officially they stopped and presumably that team is finishing up work on adding 60fps to older games like fallout 4 now. But the assumption is at some point in the series x life cycle they go back to adding new back compat games.

Bubble bobble. I bought it digitally on sale when I first got an Xbox one presuming it was backward compatible and wasn’t. Decided to keep it in the hope it was added to back compat someday.

@Dezzy70 Sony TV's implemented the TV decoded style of Dolby Vision a few months back. Even my 2018 model got it with the built in player apps.

I watched the IGN video review earlier and it said 8/10. But the article deffo says 9. Wonder if they’ve have to re post the video to match. 😆

Can you imagine if this was a product you could buy? Sony would sue the ***** out of it lol. I wonder if you can use the custom xbox pad designer thing to get something close?

There was a leaked trailer middle of last year for a tale from borderlands re release with extra stuff that hinted at a sequel being announced also. This is one of the few games I have on disc so it will be great to finally get a digital copy.

So all the king of fighters stuff is PS exclusive it seems?

My gaming resolution will be 4K 60 😆
(I can't be the only one who thought to put this? lol)

I remember arguing endlessly with someone on here weeks back who just didn’t believe me when I said gold would be going free. smug mode activated

Merry Xmas to the Pure Xbox team and my fellow xboxers 🥰

@Zochmenos same. At this point we might as well wait for the X version.

@Trainer I doubt it. The XS patch was announced when everyone assumed the regular version would ship without crippling bugs and performance. I’m guessing all resources are now shifted to getting the base version playable and then after that they’ll work on the XS patch. It’s not like they just have to switch on some of the PC options. Presumably they’ll have to move the development to game core to truly unlock the power of the XS and that’s not an easy thing.

4 big patches in 12 days. You can’t say they’re not working hard.

Planning to pick up a few. Especially Terminator knowing it has a 4K Series X update coming next year.

Series X Quality (30fps) mode is certainly the best looking way to play it on console with the best lighting and higher density crowds but it still looks like a switch port compared to the PC version.
I'm not returning it but glad they're fixing bugs. I'm going to wait for a series X patch.

@Menchi From reporting coming out about how it went down it seems that Sony told them they were pulling it and CDPR rolled with it. Which would explain why MS hasn't pulled it. CDPRs statement just says they're working hard to bring it back. If it was a CDPR decision surely they would pull both platforms.

@Menchi fair play. Wonder why they didn’t pull Xbox? Makes Microsoft look bad at this point.

@Menchi do you have a link to the CDPR announcement pulling it? Why would they pull it on Sony but not Xbox? Everything I’ve read said this was a Sony move. Not CDPR.

Cyberpunk is an Xbox console exclusive now then

Nice. Actually just ordered this based on this story. Hope it’s everything they say it is.

I can’t seem to get Bleed 2 without it wanting to charge me £11.99. Anyone else having issues?

@Carck haha me too. It was that series X / PC comparison that killed any desire to play it till a next gen patch.

The first game I bought day one at full price in 15yrs. Never again.

@sixrings same but flipped. You can’t act like you 100% know what the situation will be this time next year.

@Menchi and this time last year Jedi Knight cost £60 and Doom wasn't exclusive to Xbox. We're kinda going around in circles. Lol. Lets pick this up next December. 👍

@Menchi and this time last year if you looked at EA's Jedi Knight's page it said nothing about it being free on game pass.

@Menchi if you’d have run with the established facts Dec 2019 and I’d told you in a year. the world would be locked down. Xbox had bought Doom, Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Call of Duty was bricking xboxes, EA games were free on game pass and Cyberpunk was a hot mess would you have believed me?

@Richnj this a thousand percent.

@sixrings for arguments sake let’s say 45 million are still active. So there’s a choice between 5m series x/a or x/s + Xbox ones for a total of 50m user base. It’s an easy decision. You want as many people to be able to play your FTP game as possible.

@Menchi there’s a year between now and then. Let’s see what happens.

@mousieone but Halo has been designed from the start to be an Xbox One game and then ported to next gen just like the point you made with Miles and PS4/PS5. In fact it’s probably been in development longer then miles as that’s been done in two years. And halo must be into its 4th or 5th year.

Also look at gears 4 and 5 or any Forza game. They run just fine on Xbox One and look amazing. For the record I voted cancel it. I’m lucky enough to have a Series X. But saying a good cross generation version can’t be done without it performing like cyberpunk is a bit off the mark.

I never played Witcher3. As I understand it that also sucked at launch. What’s it like now? Did they fix it eventually?

@Menchi Halo will be free to play. You won’t need Gold. But the 50m was Xbox One consoles. But if you want to be specific there are actually 90M people with active gold accounts as of April this year.

@sixrings if Sony can get Miles, Horizon2 and God of War2 to run on PS4 then I’m sure Microsoft can get halo to run on Xbox One. What you’re forgetting is the big play for free multiplayer. That’s only good to take off if it’s cross gen with an instant instal base of 50m players rather than 5-10m of X/S.

@sixrings 45-50 million is a hell of an install base to ignore.

Shame turning Atmos on introduces a massive audio delay. I was hoping they’d fix that with Series X but nope. Happened with One X too.

I launched forza Horizon 4 but nothing popped up? Is it actually in the game yet?

Gotta say in nearly 10hrs I haven’t seen that on seires x. I’m playing in quality mode if it helps. The graphics and performance have been the one thing consistently impressive about it for me. I hope it’s gets patched soon tho.

@everynowandben the story is just so damn good tho. It’s like an amazing movie you want to experience more of. Or someone sitting in front of you at the cinema with their head in the way of the screen. I just wish it didn’t get in its own way so much. Lol.

Been playing on XSX since midnight. Performance is great. I’m about ten hours in. Not too many bugs at first just audio glitches but then when it opens up its gets awful. NPCs clip thru stairs and cars. Or hover in mid air. I’m missing out on quests because You can hear voices from people calling you over to offer them but the characters lips don’t move so you don’t know who to approach. I was soldering on But was just in a major cutscene and the character clothes kept glitching on and off. I’m bailing. It’s amazing game but the bugs are appalling and ruin it.

Been playing on XSX since midnight. Performance is great. I’m about ten hours in. Not too many bugs at first just audio glitches but then when it opens up its gets awful. NPCs clip thru stairs and cars. Or hover in mid air. I’m missing out on quests because You can hear voices from people calling you over to offer them but the characters lips don’t move so you don’t know who to approach. I was soldering on But was just in a major cutscene and the character clothes kept glitching on and off. I’m bailing. It’s amazing game but the bugs are appalling and ruin it.