Sol4ris

So let me get this straight. Something similar happened to the PlayStation store years ago (according to people posting here) and it was all fine. Now Microsoft makes a similar call and the perpetually troll concerning fanboys seem to see the writing on the wall, pieces of jigsaws from the final picture, blah, blah, etc, etc 🤣🤣......

I hope they'll find a way to continue development with project. Perhaps with a smaller publisher like Focus or Kepler Interactive.

@Questionable_Duck
It's full open season for GamePass bashing at the moment .
Clearly all the (current) troubles of the gaming industry are because of GamePass 😅. And not at all due unsustainable development budgets, unrealistic expectations, perpetual growth targets and over saturation.

@Cikajovazmaj

All that is to say, yes, I am implying games released on GP sell worse compared to games not offered day 1 on any services

Fair enough. Even Microsoft have acknowledged that game sales are affected by GamePass. But I also think that just pointing the finger at the service every time a game is not selling tens of millions, is a serious stretch. Its funny that most people don't think that the exorbitant game prices are not damaging the industry but GamePass does.

@Cikajovazmaj

I'd argue Expedition 33 would have sold far better if it wasn't on GP. That game is a masterpiece that should have sold tens of millions

Are you implying that one of the reasons Expedition 33 did not do tens of millions is because of GamePass?

Just out of curiosity, why do think that a game like Astrobot which by any metric is/was considered a masterpiece and not on any of Sony's subscription tiers only managed to sell between 2.5 to 3 million. What's to blame there?...

I'll very likely buy it because it's a game I'm interested in playing, and not because I want to show Sony (or their fanboys that regularly invade PX) that we Xbox owners buy games.

Anything you're specifically hoping for?

Yes. I want Microsoft to be more like Sony and Nintendo and just say sweet f**k all. And just like that, no one is going to be confused 😅.
They to have a relatively steady flow of first-party games with GamePass also being fantastic. So no more talk about next gen please ...just more great games.

Techland are the bee's knees for their support on this game. Kudos 👏.

This looked fantastic, dare I say even better than the W3 tech demo. Definitely interested, but I cannot see it released before next gen.

I went with 2028, but I can also see a late 2027 release. Hopefully it'll be the former, there is plenty life left in current gen.

More mismanagement and incompetence from Microsoft first-party studios......oh apologies, I mixed up the corporations😉 😅.

@Banjo-

And you can guarantee articles like this one to bring them out like clockwork every time.

It goes like : Why is Microsoft taking this approach or, this is a desperate attempt from them, or, they are leaving the hardware business etc, etc.
But my favourite one, is, how will a trillion dollar corporation make money by allowing multiple store fronts without the walled garden approach that everyone seems to be such big fans of 😅.

so you can play the games you want across devices anywhere you want - delivering you an Xbox experience not locked to a single store, or tied to one device

I can and will fully get behind this approach. A console like experience combined with the freedom of PC. No more walled garden store fronts or being at the mercy of were my gaming library is. Sign me up 😁.

@Dm9982

Although to all the people drooling at the possibility of Sony games running on an Xbox, do not get your hopes up. Sony can and will likely block access to running their pc games on Xbox consoles

Frankly most of us would be shocked if they wouldn’t block them 😅. Like you point out they are doing it already with GeForce.

Personally, I’m far, far more interested in options like this: there's a reference to delivering an Xbox experience that's "not locked to a single store or tied to one device", with Team Xbox working closely alongside the Windows team, rather than being able to play Sony PC games on Xbox.

Excellent, this is most excellent news. I want Microsoft to go in a different direction from what they’ve been doing and some of the quotes from Sarah Bond make me really hopeful we'll see something different from them.

@cragis0001

having access to everything

I don't know if it will be as easy as that, but Microsoft will definitely have to try and offer something that differentiate it from what Sony will do.

@Millionski

Except I'm not rooting for Microsoft as a publisher. I want them to explore a different strategy since is abundantly clear that their traditional console approach is not working out all that well. There is a space for all three to operate within the gaming industry offering different options. Hence, why I pointed out that it's tiring to see people suggesting/speculating that Microsoft's options are limited to the point of just becoming a third-party publisher.

@LogicStrikesAgain

I’m sure if they are developing and releasing a next gen box they would want people to buy it

Indeed. Hence why it will not be or cannot be a box in the traditional sense as people seem to expect. That boat has well and truly been taken over by Sony. It will have to be something quite different, and, hopefully not in need of saving..

@LogicStrikesAgain

I don’t understand how next gen hardware is supposed to save them. As i’ve said before, unless they pivot back to exclusive content, i don’t even see the point of it thb

Why would they need saving, when it's clear as day that Microsoft will never be able to.out console Sony (Phil Spencer words, not mine). Microsoft needs a new direction and strategy if they are to stay relevant in the gaming hardware business.
Sony is doing their thing, same with Nintendo, so why shouldn't Microsoft carve out their own thing?

It has become, both tiring and depressing to see people actively wishing for Microsoft to go into games development/publishing only. I don't see how that would be such a great idea, and I'm hoping they'll stick with their strategy of a hybrid console /PC, because I think there is market for it.

Edit: Fingers crossed whatever shape Microsoft's hardware will take, it will not release before mid 2028.

@nomither6

playstation fans need xbox

I keep seeing comments like yours and I’m in no way trying to be dismissive of the points it’s raises. But then I see the gleeful reactions on sites like PushSquare (and other gaming sites) about how great it is that Microsoft might leave the (Xbox) hardware business altogether and how all they need it’s a PlayStation, etc, etc.

Perhaps people don’t much mind, a none-incentivised Sony or a £1000 PS6 price tag after all 😅…

Whatever Microsoft is aiming for with these devices, is definitely not a sales success with the frankly crazy pricing. Not for the likes of me, I'm afraid.

I don't see many people arguing that it's okay now, nor do I recall people being elated when Sony did it and then it became standard across the industry. And maybe this could be another precedent set (this time) by Microsoft.
What I'm trying to say is, that gamers complain vociferously, then still proceed to buy the games even at the prices they were so angry about, in their millions.
Voting for once with our wallets would probably make sense...(and a point).

@ButterySmooth30FPS

It's not a deflection.
In the early period of the current gen Sony was leading the charge on rising prices on their first-party games. Shortly after (months, I can't recall) others followed, including Microsoft....

If Sony ever decides to go the GamePass route ( they'll likely never🤣) all of this bashing will disappear...it will be the best thing ever 😁.

I think this will likely be a next-gen Xbox release along with Blade. A late 2027 or mid 2028, fingers crossed.

My point is you likely won't be playing Sony games on an xbox developed device anytime soon

Your point also makes another point. It's the palatable elation felt from the Sony hardcore populace for every device Sony blocks their games on😅🤦‍♂️...but you're very likely right though.

One of the highlights of the show. I love Don't Nod's output and Sci-Fi Adventures, definitely looking forward to this.

Keeper, Clockwork Revolution and Aphelion have elevated this to an A for me.
The games diversity was absolutely excellent too. Best show of the year so far 👏.

@TheGameThrifter

I think people aren't realizing the importance of competition in the console space. If Microsoft continues to give up in the console space, Sony can do whatever they want, can charge whatever they want. Sony is already getting away with their worst generation ever

I don't know mate. I regularly visit gaming sites reading articles and the accompanying comments sections, but I hardly see anyone concerned that Microsoft will quit the Xbox hardware business and how will that affect the console landscape.
If anything the hardcover fans only care that the plastic box they religiously support stays king of the hill even if it's the only show in town....
Personally, I hope Microsoft will support the Switch 2 with all their games the Ninty system can handle

I have still to play the Oblivion Remaster, Metafor R and Doom the Dark Ages. These games will take me months to complete, so it will be a long while before I'll buy Black Myth.

Last year when it released on PC/PS would have been different, but this year it's (I'm) truly stacked.....perhaps in exactly another year's time to mirror the definitely no PlayStation exclusivity deal 😉😅.

I’m looking forward to start playing this (but also dreading it in a way because it’s another gargantuan undertaking at 100h+,😀) And I’m still not fully finished with Expedition 33, finally got the flying ability and even more of the map seem to have opened up. So I don’t know when I’ll get to ReFantazio.

Given that Microsoft is now starting to sell its titles outside of Game Pass on other platforms — including PlayStation — you have to say that Yoshida probably has a point

Yeah, when you go out and aquire two reasonably big (😉) game publishers ,you start exploring avenues of return for said investment. It's not an unheard-of concept...

Acknowledging his bias as a former PlayStation leader before going on to champion them anyway

Kudos to Shu for being upfront about it 😅.

Now, from my position as an Xbox ecosystem customer, Microsoft's approach has been financially super healthy for me.
There is a reason why I no longer subscribe to any PlayStation subscription services since early 2023, and it's not because Sony's approach to subscription services is healthier 😀...

Making my way through Expedition 33 (still).
In between I will squeeze in a few games of FM and Halo Infinite, and itching to try Doom Eternal too, but maybe during the week 😉.
Happy gaming to all.

I like the look of this and likely get it at some point, but .....I'm still playing Expedition 33, than plan on dipping into Doom Eternal before starting Oblivion R. And with Metaphor Refantazio still coming....just can't keep up.

@Ricky-Spanish

I don't know bud I'm just curious as to why they wouldnt be releasing it day one on playstation aswell

But they will. Is just a marketing deal on behalf of GamePass/Microsoft. I would be genuinely surprised for this game to not to release day one on PlayStation. Aaany way, have a great bank (gaming?) holiday weekend 😀.

@Ricky-Spanish

I'm really just asking because everyone over on push square thinks it's a timed exclusive paid for by Xbox

Of course they would mate. The conditioning (and expectations) of third-party games and Sony exclusivity is very, very strong with the community there 😅.

In the end this will be just like the situation with Persona 3R, where Microsoft had the game on GamePass day one, therfore the marketing was heavily Xbox related. Nothing more.

@Ricky-Spanish

Do you know if Microsoft payed for this to be a timed exclusive??

Are you serious mate(?), Microsoft are doing the opposite. They are paying their own developers so that Xbox will have no exclusives🤣....The right approach in my humble opinion 😉

I didn't play the original release, so I'll be checking this out once it hits.

Not only is the upcoming Space Marine remaster seemingly skipping a PS5 release for now, making it a rare Xbox console launch exclusive

That phrasing reads like something straight out from Pushsquare, were there's is elation at news when people with a different console than PS5 can't enjoy a game 😉😅😅.

This is excellent news. Whilst not a game for everyone, at least there is an option for PlayStation gamers to experience it, if they want to.

I would love for Microsoft to follow this through and allow multiple store fronts on the next gen Xbox 😀.

But what I find incredibly baffling is the fact that 99% of the resistance and pessimism to this and other similar rumours comes from people who openly admit to be PS5/Sony fans, and apparently are huge supporters of the walled garden digital store fronts that offer zero competition on consoles. You just can't make it up😅😅...

All the best in her new endeavour. Sometimes a new challenge is what people feel they need.

such as New Game Plus

Excellent! I loved my time with Avowed and was hoping for a new game plus option, I can now do my second play through for 100% achievements. 😁

Edit: But why no campaign DLC, come on Obsidian...

This is I think a serious oversight on the part of Bethesda/Microsoft. Why do double the carbon footprint by selling a case with a disc with virtually nothing printed onto it? Just go with a full digital only release and that way at least we can see the environmental benefits of it.

The very sad reality and increasingly stupid pursuit of infinite growth from a place with finite resources.

My second favourite GTA game, the first being Vice City. I would buy it R* are actually serious about the work put into it, unlike how they treated the GTA collection.

@TheGameThrifter

But saying Xbox is dominating due to 3rd party game sales is like saying Sega is dominating Nintendo because there's Sega games on a Nintendo...lol

Right? It's just such a shame that Sega wasn't a multi-trilion behemoth like Microsoft is. We might have ended up with a Dreamcast-PC lite by now, and who knows(?), we might just end up with a Xbox-PC lite in the not so distant future.

Man, you got to just love these kind of articles.
It brings out the best of the console gaming community, and in the process it makes school playground squabbling look positively like a discourse in quantum entanglement theory 😅.

Microsoft spends a Godly amount to buy game publishers and folk go bananas about how they'll destroy gaming by focusing on exclusivity.

Microsoft go (almost) fully multiplatform and with no red lines on any franchises they own, and the (same) folks go bananas with those that don't seem to be bothered much by the new direction. It's just nuts 😅.

My son is going to love this 😀.

For me it's around 90 - 95%, just love the huge selection and genres of games on offer on a regular basis.
Still buy (too many 😁) games of course, regardless of said games being on GamePass or not.

@PlatinumMikey
You're alright lad, I'm from blighty just like you, except torturing my thumbs is not a past time I'm willing to engage with 😅.