OldGamer999

The more I’ve seen of Outerworlds 2 with other sites getting more exclusive gameplay, the more I like.
Will be playing day one.
Avowed is one of my favourite games this generation it just drew me in, as I think OW2 will.

Let’s flip the coin here. We have seen other games and companies continue and get the game released and have been mega flops. Of course finishing to completion and releasing will cost even more money than cancelling the project at some point, obviously the sooner the better.

But if a game is really gonna flop and add more cost by releasing then it could be wise to cut your losses.

These types off games were so made for the Wii remote and PlayStation move with a gun attachment.

Used to enjoy these with the PS3 move controller and the namco gun games as well and Sega.

Made a nice change form the norm, shame the Wii remote and PS3 move never got moved to last and this generation.

Games get cancelled by many in the business.
For me it’s such a shame after all the work and effort.
And god knows how much many was flushed down the loo with this particular cancellation.

Was there day one on release and what a great game it was at the time.
Seems longer than 11 years ago to my old brain 🤣
But I think time moves faster for me nowadays.

I’ve always been a new game experience gamer and rarely play old games. I do try now and again and stop after a short while.

@Coletrain
I totally agree we need Xbox hardware console wise etc.
what gets me Xbox with all these studios are probably in the best position in years to push hardware and game pass on consoles, even if I’m talking about at least some sort of exclusiveness, to promote the reason the own an Xbox console.
As for penny pinching, all three are at it in their own unique way at different times throughout the last two years.
£450/£500 in the UK for a series x is a good price, I mean you can pay £400 for a 3 tflop docked switch 2.
Work that out from a power point of view only.

@Coletrain
Yep the UK seems to be running up and well in our UK stores, Xbox wise.
Also it gets a page or two in the new Smyths toys catalog.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Sort of get what you mean.
Will find out in November, but I’m looking forward to it.

@Fiendish-Beaver
COD campaign does look good seems to have at least 5 main varied areas around the world which I like.
Hopefully it will be a good length as well.

NG4, Outerworlds 2 & COD
There is not much more I can say and all on GPU.

Only play the campaign and BF6 campaign is not worth the money, might give it a go on EA Play when it arrives.
I’m sure the BO7 campaign will be a lot better.

@x3King84
It’s just a shame that’s all, would have been after many years great to have had a big BF Campaign.

Like you I have been enjoying the COD campaigns
Hope this years is good as well.

@Sol4ris
I know but I bet they could make an amazing battlefield campaign game for this generation had they wished to.
Never mind they won’t get my money now for sure.

@Coletrain
Think you are spot on there and very accurate.

It’s a shame as I like the console wars and competition really. The day I got my Xbox and drooled over halo combat evolved, thinking I’ve never played a console game like this. Since then had every Xbox and enjoyed everyone. Of course in the xbox360 days it was my main and only console for a good while.
Then the PS3 actually started towards the end producing very good games and the PS4 followed and Sony slowly but surely took over. But as always I still flip flopped 🤣 between PS4 and Xbox one. Nintendo have always been around as well for me.
This generation has been my most weird and of course covid did not help in a strange way.
I would dearly deep down like to stay along with Xbox, but I don’t think there cloud based future is for me and what ever their next console thing might be. If they told me it might help a bit, and of course I really don’t trust them.

I’ve always said the series x console has the best form factor and controller for me and quick resume I love.

But as someone else said on here. It’s like the wife cheating on you, just one to many times, so you have to leave with a sadness, but look forward to the future with Sony and Nintendo.

@Coletrain
That’s my problem I have not a clue and they are actually making it all worse.
Ok we know today we have a series console and the new Game pass tiers and costs and what we have native downloaded.
But not many will invest in it all now and definitely not in the future if we don’t know what the future really is Xbox console wise.
I think it will be a pure cloud gaming box for all Xbox games from this generation backwards and new games and old PC games from this generation will be PC native downloaded only.

But who will buy it, PC gamers won’t they like to tinker with new parts etc.
Some may have not like series games being cloud gaming only.
Microsoft would lose more money as you can buy through other front house services.
And GPU has got more expensive.

I just totally confused and lost for words really on what they are trying to achieve. I think they are leaving the console market next generation. The new machine will be a PC for PC games download native and a streaming box for old Xbox games. And that is Microsoft’s way of leaving the native download game console market.

Power is a pinch of salt with Xbox.
The series x is clearly more powerful than the PS5.

But Sony developers make for just the PS5 and sometimes game engines for the PS5, hence getting the best from the PS5 and making Xbox studio games for the series x look mainly sub par.
As the poor Xbox studios has to make for many different consoles and pc and cloud gaming. And mainly don’t have series x console only game engines.

I said this day one with the Halo Infinite incident and it has came true this whole generation so far.

Xbox studios are Jack of all trades and definitely not the master of the series x console. It’s not the studios fault it’s the direction Microsoft wanted Xbox to go.

If you got say the coalition to make a series x game engine and a game for just the series x we would have seen something very special and up there with Sony studios in production values and maybe even above compared to the PS5 best from Sony.

Dam that’s a reason to own a console and why Sony and Nintendo with their exclusives and quality sell so many consoles. Silly me.

@Coletrain
What I want to know from Xbox is the following.
I’m not bothered it maybe being hybrid.
Will it play native purchased series x games and not just cloud streaming them? If no, that is very bad.
If no to the above will we need to buy the PC version to play the old series x game downloaded native?
Moving forward will it be PC versions of the game we can only download to play native? As an Xbox next generation version will not exist.
And of course all the above is resolved money wise if you have GPU, there way of getting you on GPU PC.
To me it will be away of Xbox getting you to subscribe to GPU so you get to download the PC version of the old series x games, else you can only stream the old series x games on the hybrid Xbox console or you just pay for the PC version to download.

What I want to know from Xbox is the following.
I’m not bothered it maybe being hybrid.

Will it play native purchased series x games and not just cloud streaming them? If no, that is very bad.

If no to the above will we need to buy the PC version to play the old series x game downloaded native?

Moving forward will it be PC versions of the game we can only download to play native? As an Xbox next generation version will not exist.

And of course all the above is resolved money wise if you have GPU, there way of getting you on GPU PC.

To me it will be away of Xbox getting you to subscribe to GPU so you get to download the PC version of the old series x games, else you can only stream the old series x games on the hybrid Xbox console or you just pay for the PC version to download.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
I know but PureXbox is great still with you lot on here.

No buy for me, single player campaign not that great and way too short.
You think after waiting all these years we would have got an outstanding campaign a good 11 hours long.
If nothing to show off against COD.

Glad hopefully it will be no earlier than 2028.

Come Microsoft tell us loyal Xbox fans what you are making, so we have an idea of.
Should I stay or should I go now.

Being honest this has been Xbox gender most of this generation, not moving forward enough.

You only have to look at games made for PS5 only by a Sony AAA studio to see what this generation can really do.

Microsoft have never made a game engine and game just for series x, to show really what the series x can do and those high production values developing for just one single console. Totally focus on one console for the development team.
Xbox studios are Jack of all trades and master of none.

It’s nothing to do with Microsoft being nice.
Some countries have a 60 notice period on subscription price increases. And that is all Microsoft are doing.
Giving 60 days legal notice of the price increase and the option to the leave the service of course.

Such a shame, move on from this terrible brand.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Enjoy ghost of Yotei.
Actually if we add Nintendo as well, they haven’t produced anything on the scale of some of Nintendo studios big AAAs.

@Coletrain
Definitely preferring GOY to GOT.
Just seems to be more going on and more structured and better world to explore and generally better combat.

Yes both settings are gorgeous but will also give GOY the lead on that as well.

Exploring it all and doing it all and really enjoying it all.

@Jenkinss
I always said sell a Xbox series console sell a game pass sub. Series consoles have just over 50% of the GP subs against millions of other devices.
Once they stopped caring about series consoles there was one way the console and game pass was going, down hill.

But they messed up that on release of the series consoles and lack of amazing games at the first two years exclusive wise. Fudged Halo Infinite badly, I really enjoyed the campaign but it was last generation looks wise etc.

Anyway it was all amazing whilst it lasted.

@Fiendish-Beaver
I mean I paused ghost of Yotei on my Pro to reply to you.
Think this is what Xbox consoles and games should have been.
Maybe the game not for all, but the graphics the gameplay the whole smooth perfectionism of it, played on the highest level of what a gaming console can do right now.

Microsoft didn’t even give the series x a chance to show us what it could really do.

@Fiendish-Beaver
The thing for me with Microsoft is the total lack of trust now. I’ve really tried but now nothing they say I believe and anything they do is now not surprising. If they closed Xbox tomorrow it would not surprise me bit.
Actually they would surprise me if they actually came out and told us really what they are doing in the very near next generation future.
Tell us what it is what it does or does not do.
Level with us.
Nintendo have switch 2 console full native downloaded gaming
Sony will have PS6 console full native downloaded gaming and with PS5 games native to download.
Microsoft, mmmm well, not sure, maybe a console downloading full native games and series x games. Maybe not, maybe a hybrid, maybe cloud gaming.
Absolutely disgrace to the loyal Xbox gang.

The thing for me with Microsoft is the total lack of trust now. I’ve really tried but now nothing they say I believe and anything they do is now not surprising. If they closed Xbox tomorrow it would not surprise me bit.

Actually they would surprise me if they actually came out and told us really what they are doing in the very near next generation future.
Tell us what it is what it does or does not do.
Level with us.
Nintendo have switch 2 console full native downloaded gaming
Sony will have PS6 console full native downloaded gaming and with PS5 games native to download.

Microsoft, mmmm well, not sure, maybe a console downloading full native games and series x games. Maybe not, maybe a hybrid, maybe cloud gaming.
Absolutely disgrace to the loyal Xbox gang.

@kmtrain83
I get what you mean and I don’t mind too much with music myself.
But when it comes to my eyes, they like to be dazzled and see improvements.

To me cloud gaming is like going back to 480p tv when I have 1080p and 4K the same with Dolby atmos etc. all of the better quality draws you into the game more or movie more.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Yep prefer the Xbox controller layout way more than the dualsense controller.

The sticks angled to each other and the trigger feel and movement is better.

Same with the consoles, prefer the series x form factor and of course that brilliant quick resume.

Just a bloody shame Microsoft have managed to mess up series x sales and Xbox consoles future.

Nope Microsoft have messed me around to much now. With all their goings on of the last 2 years and more so recently.

And I really don’t know where I stand with them and the future, so much talk about that rubbish cloud gaming.
I want a next generation Xbox console that downloads games to play natively with all bells and 4K whistles etc.
I’m beginning to believe we won’t get that and have to stream our series x Xbox games and then possibly and maybe have native PC games and would have to buy them again for PC, and here’s the big one unless you have game pass ultimate of course.
What a mess of a company.

@Questionable_Duck
Yep I’ve been saying that for about 3 years with Xbox consoles and gamepass.
I used to say sell an Xbox console then maybe sell a gamepass subscription.

But there you go, no rhyme or reason at Microsoft HQ.

They thought COD on game pass day one would totally accelerate game pass sales.
And maybe even Xbox console sales a little.

And guess what and we all knew this, everybody mainly stuck to their platform of choice and paid for it, ie PlayStation or PC.

Microsoft have some really really really dump analysts and forecasters working for them that are so out of touch with the gaming industry.

I mean Xbox consoles had just over 50% of the game pass subscriptions over millions of other devices. And guess what they let the Xbox console die and so did the game pass subscriptions.

I always want a Xbox console hardware in the market place.
As for that rubbish that is cloud gaming, they can stick that where the sun don’t shine.

Full on download native games for a home console. With full on graphics and sound etc.
nothing less will do.

Well they knocked the hell out of their console sales and succeed there.
So now they are bored and want to knock the hell out of game pass, success again in the near future when people’s subs run out.

Will wait and see as have GPU until March 2027.
However they will really a magical next generation machine and some truly epic AAA games to keep at the new higher cost.

They seem to think quantity and pushing cloud gaming is the answer.
I shall sit back if they continue on that route and watch them fail so badly.

All depends what games they are, ok Xbox studios won’t count for to many.
So will we get day one games like silent hill f, AC Shadows, sonic racers, RE9.

Microsoft needs to remember its quality that counts not quantity.

@themightyant
I definitely won’t be renewing, it would take a miracle.
Mine runs until March 2027.
So 2 main things.
What is the next Xbox and I want to be downloading full game native play, not this crap streaming.
Second they need to up their games by their studios, they need top quality AAA, BOTW, SMG2 level of game maybe once a year.
Not just good to really good games.

I laugh at all the big three plead poverty and go on about costs and start increasing prices or skimping.

Then every quarter tell us how well they are doing with this and that. Sometimes record profits for some of them.

@Cakefish
Also they make really good to good games Xbox studios
But it’s not like we get at least one 93 plus meta game true AAAA a year as well.
Like. TOTK or super Mario Galaxy. Up there with the legends.

I’m currently fully paid until March 2027.
Then god only knows how much game pass ultimate will be.
Maybe and probably the time to leave then and of course depending on Xbox next console hybrid thing.

I work for a private owned family firm that invest so much back into their company, tech wise.
It’s absolutely brilliant.

Will be interesting to see how long the B6 and COD campaigns are this year and how good, as there is competition for this.

I will play COD campaign GPU.
Then see how long B6 campaign is before paying any money or just wait for EA play on GPU release.

All ready for this FH6 2026 on GPU.

Quick get one now before the price goes up next month by £100 and then corporate greed can blame tariff’s. 🤣

I’m poking fun not being serious, I’m not into handhelds so not for me. I’m a pure big top end TV gamer only.

@IOI
I think we are safe with clockwork there is lots of real gameplay.
For me Fable is the one I’m concerned about.

GPU with series x the best value in gaming.

Well it’s still releasing before my GPU expires in March 2027, so that’s good for me.
I’m theory 2026 should the best GPU year ever for big Xbox first party titles.