@Titntin Yeah they are not putting prices up, but you believe them totally and the so called clever reasons for not doing so.
Out of interest, as you know PS5 consoles seem at really good prices in the UK Black Friday deals, some say the price they should be 5 years in. Do you think with these Black Friday prices: They lose money They break even They make money
This is not meant to be a Sony thing by the way, all three are as bad as each other.
@Titntin Sorry, meant “more profit” I just standing up for us little people the gamers That get the cost increased, whilst the big guys make more profit.
@Titntin I’m not saying Sony have not done that. But I don’t believe all these excuses for increasing prices. My new car is now £2k cheaper new than when I purchased it 2 years ago. Which means they have probably done better deals in parts and streamlined manufacturing process.
Also a couple of other smaller electronic items I have purchased recently are a little bit cheaper than 6 months ago. Also TVs have dropped good as well.
It always just seems the gaming industry that these poor poor poor companies have issues with cost, bless them.
Me thinks it’s all a scam to keep prices up and profits up and higher. Even Sony reported that they make poor profit per PS5 sold that PS4 sold back in the day. That was from early this year.
Isn’t it amazing there are only 3 major console manufacturers and it’s their prices going up.
As in other electronic areas like TVs and Cars etc prices are coming down. Due to a lot more manufacturers from a lot more different countries competing.
Me thinks we need more competition to wake the big three up and stop them mugging us gamers off.
UK has as good supply of series consoles and they do ok over here. Xbox have been totally damp squids last year and this year with console Black Friday deals, these are just small shop discounts.
And there was me thinking once they got COD we would get the full Monty console and COD special cheap releases and posh boxes etc.
Special slogans like “XBOX THE HOME OF COD” They are so out of touch or just don’t want to.
Like Sony used to do when they had the COD deal.
I think if Xbox had pushed the consoles sales and marketing and stayed exclusive and marketed game pass with a console correctly, we could have seen double the series consoles sales.
@Fiendish-Beaver That’s a coincidence my nephew is on his 4th year at Plymouth university. You cannot blame him for the high price, he was only about 3 years old then 🤣 Great story by the way.
The definition of a pure absolute and amazing Xbox era. How far they have gone down hill since then.
The era when Xbox consoles were in many houses and games were a plenty first party and amazing AAA quality. When people spoke and praised xbox and shops gave it lots of shelf space, merchandise was in shops for all ages etc. When Xbox had ambition and masses of momentum and truly deserved its place in gaming.
And now their console is almost obsolete, no Black Friday deals no big AAA quality games, messing up COD, cancelling games and no buzz and momentum.
It’s almost like when they purchased Nokia and downed their mobile phone market they had.
At this stage I wish they would sell all their studios shut the whole Xbox lot down, they are not even good competition anymore to keep Sony and Nintendo on tender hooks.
Would be interesting if this was a survey on the general public from ages say 10 to 50 year olds. I guess this would then be an extremely niche product. And not being funny, most would say what’s play anywhere and also probably Xbox, yeah I remember them and the 360.
I thought with BF this year they would have gone all out for a best ever COD. How wrong I was. Well next year they will have GTA6 to compete with gamers time.
Just one more game for me this year Metroid Prime 4.
Out standing era the best Xbox era the 360. Anyway all in vain now, as Sony and Nintendo dominate the living room, console wise. I think now since the last year or two all my family and friends have moved on and I only know one with an Xbox device now, UK.
Campaign and fun play and grappling hook totally clicked with me and really enjoyed. Of course there was lots of improvements that should have happened and of course further story dlc.
Overall enjoyed the campaign but glad it’s over and hooter can move into better things. Looking forward to Halo campaign evolved in 2026.
@Fiendish-Beaver Totally off subject, but was looking at the tomb raider games. Noticed this, two great AAA games big games with 3 years release schedule. Rise of the Tomb Raider (2015) Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018)
Another good example is super Mario Galaxy 1 to 2. Which is 3 years cycle.
Still looking really good on current gen consoles.
Really why do games take so long nowadays, I can’t believe we used to produce in such amazing times, 3 years. Now it’s a drawn out 5 to 6 years maybe plus.
I will be honest where I work nowadays compared to pre covid when everyone was at work and seemed far less entitled, maybe Gen Z not totally sure. More personal don’t seem to work as hard or push and chase and have as much drive and passion for work or were there work. I’m 70s but started work at 16 in the 80s and I haven’t lost an ounce of drive or passion for my work.
My last game purchase was yooke replay for about £30. The rest are mainly on GPU for me. Like current plays OW2 and COD campaign and Prince of Persia now on GPU. It’s great whilst I’m stacked until March 2027 at the old price of £11.99 per month. I feel like a thief 🤣🤣🤣
Probably quiet for me now until February 2026 when high on life 2 releases on GPU. Also RE9. However if it’s like RE8 fantastic, lots of action. But I have a feeling it will be more like RE7 slow horror, which looks too slow and a bit boring for me. Only going by trailers so far.
@somnambulance For me only of course Nintendo have Yoshi maybe not sure on that game and that’s it. Sony wolverine only. Though I would have Nintendo would maybe have a new 3d Mario who knows.
Xbox if I had to pay I have GPU, I would definitely by Fable, gears and Halo and think about Forza 6. So having stacked GPU and for Xbox could be a very good year for them, if they all release with just FH6 and Halo only confirmed so far.
Just give me those four games you mentioned and that’s four big AAA from Xbox studios for the year 2026. I can’t ask for than that and on my GPU.
We don’t see the other 2 releasing that many big games in a single year. Sony are almost down to one a year and Nintendo will probably have 2 big AAA from them and maybe two smaller games.
Outer words 2 slowly getting through it. Now having GPU went COD Campaign Well it’s seems good to me, I’m not a COD head, but shooting about seems to be good fun. Playing on series x at 60fps runs so smooth and looks really sharp and good, textures all great.
After reading the reviews I thought oh no, but seems a good COD campaign to me.
@Fiendish-Beaver Could someone clever please explain how hundreds of developers and millions of pounds can actually mess a simple campaign like they have? Most of us would probably get sacked or close to it for doing something that bad at work.
Could someone clever please explain how hundreds of developers and millions of pounds can actually mess a simple campaign like they have? Most of us would probably get sacked or close to it for doing something that bad at work.
COD should be this generation by now, five years in, terrible. So common of this cross generation, generation. Take me back to the good days. XBOX360 and even the Xbox one days.
Was really looking forward and had high hopes for this COD campaign. Never mind Nintendo have just cheered me up with a new Metroid Prime 4 trailer and of course that’s where my money and time will go. No wonder Xbox is in the position it’s in, it’s all about the games and they lost that years ago and now console and game pass sales.
It’s good Xbox is opening up as I think it is right for them. But I’m so glad Sony still makes console exclusives and of course Nintendo. They are the only two that get the very best from their respective consoles and don’t end up the Xbox Jack of all trades and not the master of the series x.
I know it’s a different type of market to the switch 2, but I like competition. It’s the only thing that the big companies fear or take positive consumer and customer actions over.
@kmtrain83 Yep my new car 2 years ago is £2k cheaper now new. And a Japanese company the same as Sony and Nintendo and probably has more chips inside it. I’m convinced it’s us gamers getting mugged off by greedy companies. Then super we love the companies fan boys just take it.
This best thing about this generation has not really been the games. It’s been a very quiet, quality form factor series x. Faster load times And let’s not forget my favourite quick resume 🤣
Us gamers have been mugged off since the new consoles where announced with promises this and that and it’s just got worse as we have gone on. It’s been a limp along no real forward leap generation, with cost more and get less.
And if any one really thinks about it and disagrees, you have your rose tinted glasses on yet again.
@Fiendish-Beaver Well hopefully you and I will be about for the PS7 era, I shall keep my fingers crossed for us both. Perhaps we might end up being some sort of future hybrid cross generation technology built humanoid 🤣
@Fiendish-Beaver I think the sooner next generation arrives the worse it will be, even more so than this generation, full of cross generation titles. Bring back the PS4 and Xbox one era. We believe in generations. And of course I’m never gonna get my series x only dedicated game taking full advantage of the wonderful series x console.
@fatpunkslim I never said it would not be backwards compatible. But that does not mean it may only be by way of cloud steaming those games only, rather than full downloads.
I think you need to take what Microsoft say as not the truth or read into what they have said. They never said by means of full download of the backwards compatible game to the new hybrid device.
I am staggered you believe anything they say or don’t say.
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Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
@Sol4ris
I don’t believe any of them all three.
It’s a very cornered market with three big players, giving little competition.
Especially comparing it to the TV, car and washing machine market. 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
@Titntin
So they are making profits on Black Friday UK prices.
They making lots on the RRP the rest of the time.
Anyway have a fabulous evening.
I’m only sticking up for the consumer, someone has to most of the console world has been very anti-consumer this generation.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
@Titntin
Yeah they are not putting prices up, but you believe them totally and the so called clever reasons for not doing so.
Out of interest, as you know PS5 consoles seem at really good prices in the UK Black Friday deals, some say the price they should be 5 years in.
Do you think with these Black Friday prices:
They lose money
They break even
They make money
This is not meant to be a Sony thing by the way, all three are as bad as each other.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
@Titntin
Sorry, meant “more profit”
I just standing up for us little people the gamers
That get the cost increased, whilst the big guys make more profit.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
@Titntin
I’m not saying Sony have not done that.
But I don’t believe all these excuses for increasing prices.
My new car is now £2k cheaper new than when I purchased it 2 years ago.
Which means they have probably done better deals in parts and streamlined manufacturing process.
Also a couple of other smaller electronic items I have purchased recently are a little bit cheaper than 6 months ago. Also TVs have dropped good as well.
It always just seems the gaming industry that these poor poor poor companies have issues with cost, bless them.
Me thinks it’s all a scam to keep prices up and profits up and higher.
Even Sony reported that they make poor profit per PS5 sold that PS4 sold back in the day. That was from early this year.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
Isn’t it amazing there are only 3 major console manufacturers and it’s their prices going up.
As in other electronic areas like TVs and Cars etc prices are coming down. Due to a lot more manufacturers from a lot more different countries competing.
Me thinks we need more competition to wake the big three up and stop them mugging us gamers off.
Re: Xbox Series X & Series S Receive Small UK Discounts To Kick Off Black Friday 2025
UK has as good supply of series consoles and they do ok over here.
Xbox have been totally damp squids last year and this year with console Black Friday deals, these are just small shop discounts.
And there was me thinking once they got COD we would get the full Monty console and COD special cheap releases and posh boxes etc.
Special slogans like “XBOX THE HOME OF COD”
They are so out of touch or just don’t want to.
Like Sony used to do when they had the COD deal.
I think if Xbox had pushed the consoles sales and marketing and stayed exclusive and marketed game pass with a console correctly, we could have seen double the series consoles sales.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
@Fiendish-Beaver
That’s a coincidence my nephew is on his 4th year at Plymouth university.
You cannot blame him for the high price, he was only about 3 years old then 🤣
Great story by the way.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
@Romans12
I’m UK and it was £279.99 20gb model.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
Hang there is another question here.
What model do you buy.
I got the 20gb model for £279.99 UK on launch.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
@Runex2121
Sounds like fun 🤣
Actually anyone know the launch price in the USA and UK of the xbox360?
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
I got mine launch day from Currys UK which is unusual for me as I used to go to Game mainly back in the day.
I remember waking up, driving to Currys about 5 minutes away back then and picking it up.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
Also had COD and PGR 3 as well.
When did gears and Halo release that’s when the xbox360 took off more for me.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox 360 Launch Title?
Kameo for me it gave me the most game play and was great fun and a bit different.
Re: It's Official! The Xbox 360 Is 20 Years Old Today
The definition of a pure absolute and amazing Xbox era.
How far they have gone down hill since then.
The era when Xbox consoles were in many houses and games were a plenty first party and amazing AAA quality. When people spoke and praised xbox and shops gave it lots of shelf space, merchandise was in shops for all ages etc.
When Xbox had ambition and masses of momentum and truly deserved its place in gaming.
And now their console is almost obsolete, no Black Friday deals no big AAA quality games, messing up COD, cancelling games and no buzz and momentum.
It’s almost like when they purchased Nokia and downed their mobile phone market they had.
At this stage I wish they would sell all their studios shut the whole Xbox lot down, they are not even good competition anymore to keep Sony and Nintendo on tender hooks.
Re: Poll: How Important Is The Xbox Play Anywhere Program To You?
Would be interesting if this was a survey on the general public from ages say 10 to 50 year olds.
I guess this would then be an extremely niche product.
And not being funny, most would say what’s play anywhere and also probably Xbox, yeah I remember them and the 360.
Re: Poll: How Important Is The Xbox Play Anywhere Program To You?
Totally wasted on me I’m afraid.
I’m consoles under the TV chap.
Re: Roundup: All The Reveals From 2025's Xbox Partner Preview Showcase
I forget about it and had a bath, just catching up now.
Re: Black Ops 7's Messy Campaign Is Being Detached From 'Endgame' Mode This Week
I thought with BF this year they would have gone all out for a best ever COD.
How wrong I was.
Well next year they will have GTA6 to compete with gamers time.
Just one more game for me this year Metroid Prime 4.
Re: Xbox 360 Was Influenced By Fear Of Sony Dominating The Living Room, Says Former Boss
Out standing era the best Xbox era the 360.
Anyway all in vain now, as Sony and Nintendo dominate the living room, console wise.
I think now since the last year or two all my family and friends have moved on and I only know one with an Xbox device now, UK.
Re: Review: Black Ops 7 (Xbox) - Zombies Mode The Shining Light In This Undercooked Call Of Duty
@Fiendish-Beaver
Thank you for your response and wise words.
I think we align well on this one 😊
Re: Halo Infinite's Final Major Content Update Has Arrived On Xbox & PC
Campaign and fun play and grappling hook totally clicked with me and really enjoyed.
Of course there was lots of improvements that should have happened and of course further story dlc.
Overall enjoyed the campaign but glad it’s over and hooter can move into better things.
Looking forward to Halo campaign evolved in 2026.
Re: Review: Black Ops 7 (Xbox) - Zombies Mode The Shining Light In This Undercooked Call Of Duty
@Fiendish-Beaver
Totally off subject, but was looking at the tomb raider games.
Noticed this, two great AAA games big games with 3 years release schedule.
Rise of the Tomb Raider (2015)
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018)
Another good example is super Mario Galaxy 1 to 2.
Which is 3 years cycle.
Still looking really good on current gen consoles.
Really why do games take so long nowadays, I can’t believe we used to produce in such amazing times, 3 years. Now it’s a drawn out 5 to 6 years maybe plus.
I will be honest where I work nowadays compared to pre covid when everyone was at work and seemed far less entitled, maybe Gen Z not totally sure.
More personal don’t seem to work as hard or push and chase and have as much drive and passion for work or were there work.
I’m 70s but started work at 16 in the 80s and I haven’t lost an ounce of drive or passion for my work.
Re: Ubisoft UK Warns That Folks Just Aren't Buying As Many £50-£60 Games Anymore
My last game purchase was yooke replay for about £30.
The rest are mainly on GPU for me.
Like current plays OW2 and COD campaign and Prince of Persia now on GPU.
It’s great whilst I’m stacked until March 2027 at the old price of £11.99 per month. I feel like a thief 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Sarah Bond Insists Hardware Is 'Absolutely Core' To Xbox, Teases Powerful Next-Gen Console
We just need more detail on what shape or form this hardware will take and what works on it, from a full download to streaming games.
I can’t see us getting just getting a simple new console say a series Z.
Re: Two Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In December 2025 So Far
Probably quiet for me now until February 2026 when high on life 2 releases on GPU.
Also RE9. However if it’s like RE8 fantastic, lots of action.
But I have a feeling it will be more like RE7 slow horror, which looks too slow and a bit boring for me.
Only going by trailers so far.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Is 24 Years Old Today, What Do You Expect From Next Year's 25th Birthday?
@somnambulance
For me only of course Nintendo have Yoshi maybe not sure on that game and that’s it.
Sony wolverine only.
Though I would have Nintendo would maybe have a new 3d Mario who knows.
Xbox if I had to pay I have GPU, I would definitely by Fable, gears and Halo and think about Forza 6. So having stacked GPU and for Xbox could be a very good year for them, if they all release with just FH6 and Halo only confirmed so far.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Is 24 Years Old Today, What Do You Expect From Next Year's 25th Birthday?
Just give me those four games you mentioned and that’s four big AAA from Xbox studios for the year 2026.
I can’t ask for than that and on my GPU.
We don’t see the other 2 releasing that many big games in a single year. Sony are almost down to one a year and Nintendo will probably have 2 big AAA from them and maybe two smaller games.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 15-16)
Outer words 2 slowly getting through it.
Now having GPU went COD Campaign
Well it’s seems good to me, I’m not a COD head, but shooting about seems to be good fun.
Playing on series x at 60fps runs so smooth and looks really sharp and good, textures all great.
After reading the reviews I thought oh no, but seems a good COD campaign to me.
Re: Stalker 2 Team Shares Parting Message Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Departure
Dam shame, it’s one of those games now in a lot better place you jump into now and again on game pass.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
@Fiendish-Beaver
Could someone clever please explain how hundreds of developers and millions of pounds can actually mess a simple campaign like they have?
Most of us would probably get sacked or close to it for doing something that bad at work.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
Could someone clever please explain how hundreds of developers and millions of pounds can actually mess a simple campaign like they have?
Most of us would probably get sacked or close to it for doing something that bad at work.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Black Ops 7 Running On Xbox One & One X
COD should be this generation by now, five years in, terrible. So common of this cross generation, generation.
Take me back to the good days.
XBOX360 and even the Xbox one days.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
Was really looking forward and had high hopes for this COD campaign.
Never mind Nintendo have just cheered me up with a new Metroid Prime 4 trailer and of course that’s where my money and time will go.
No wonder Xbox is in the position it’s in, it’s all about the games and they lost that years ago and now console and game pass sales.
Re: When Will The Xbox Black Friday Sale 2025 Be Revealed?
Well last Black Friday UK there was no console discount at all, compared to Sony and Nintendo.
And I guess we can expect none this year.
Re: Developing For Xbox Can Be Difficult, So Microsoft Is Taking Major Steps To 'Remove Barriers'
It’s good Xbox is opening up as I think it is right for them.
But I’m so glad Sony still makes console exclusives and of course Nintendo. They are the only two that get the very best from their respective consoles and don’t end up the Xbox Jack of all trades and not the master of the series x.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Demand Has 'Exceeded Expectations' And ASUS Is Ramping Up Production
Any sale numbers for world wide or the Europe or the UK.
I can make ten of something and say I have short supply.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Demand Has 'Exceeded Expectations' And ASUS Is Ramping Up Production
I know it’s a different type of market to the switch 2, but I like competition.
It’s the only thing that the big companies fear or take positive consumer and customer actions over.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
Terrible and mugging us gamers off again.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
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Re: Xbox Series X|S: How Their Prices Have Changed Over The Past Five Years
@kmtrain83
Yep my new car 2 years ago is £2k cheaper now new.
And a Japanese company the same as Sony and Nintendo and probably has more chips inside it.
I’m convinced it’s us gamers getting mugged off by greedy companies.
Then super we love the companies fan boys just take it.
Re: Xbox Series X|S: How Their Prices Have Changed Over The Past Five Years
This best thing about this generation has not really been the games.
It’s been a very quiet, quality form factor series x.
Faster load times
And let’s not forget my favourite quick resume 🤣
Re: Xbox Series X|S: How Their Prices Have Changed Over The Past Five Years
Us gamers have been mugged off since the new consoles where announced with promises this and that and it’s just got worse as we have gone on.
It’s been a limp along no real forward leap generation, with cost more and get less.
And if any one really thinks about it and disagrees, you have your rose tinted glasses on yet again.
Re: Red Dead Redemption To Receive Free Xbox Series X|S Upgrade This December
Last gen
Last gen
Last gen
I think, a joke of an industry this generation
Re: Black Ops 7 Comparison Shows Difference Between Xbox Series X And Series S
Any campaign reviews out yet?
Re: Analyst Questions Whether Next Xbox & PS6 Could Slip To 2028 Following GTA Delay
@Fiendish-Beaver
Well hopefully you and I will be about for the PS7 era, I shall keep my fingers crossed for us both.
Perhaps we might end up being some sort of future hybrid cross generation technology built humanoid 🤣
Re: Talking Point: What Does The 'Steam Machine' Mean For Xbox's Next-Gen Console Plans?
@fatpunkslim
I really hope you are and the media are correct.
That is perfect.
Re: Analyst Questions Whether Next Xbox & PS6 Could Slip To 2028 Following GTA Delay
@Fiendish-Beaver
I think the sooner next generation arrives the worse it will be, even more so than this generation, full of cross generation titles.
Bring back the PS4 and Xbox one era.
We believe in generations.
And of course I’m never gonna get my series x only dedicated game taking full advantage of the wonderful series x console.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 1 Has Suddenly Been Rated For Xbox Series X|S
Really after all this time, waste of resources.
Re: Talking Point: What Does The 'Steam Machine' Mean For Xbox's Next-Gen Console Plans?
@fatpunkslim
I never said it would not be backwards compatible.
But that does not mean it may only be by way of cloud steaming those games only, rather than full downloads.
I think you need to take what Microsoft say as not the truth or read into what they have said.
They never said by means of full download of the backwards compatible game to the new hybrid device.
I am staggered you believe anything they say or don’t say.