OldGamer999

It’s a game pass check out at most for me
Then I will go from there, but did not look like my type of game.

@Millionski
Yep I want another Xbox full home console whatever they call it. But my expectations are we are not getting one.
Series x is a fantastic console, form wise and features wise, quick resume my favourite feature of this generation. The best and only complete VRR console as well.
And the Xbox controller form factor is the best for me.

What I think we will get is a locked PC form factor with an Xbox badge playing PC versions of the games. That also keeps GPU alive still of course.
No I’m not a PC gamer but if I was, I would want the very best the most powerful and the Xbox badged PC will not be that.
So I’m not sure there is a market for this PC Xbox badged device.

The most annoying thing about it all is why don’t Xbox just come out and say what it is.
A full blown traditional Xbox home console or a PC with an Xbox badge.
That is all I ask of them.

Sony have told us we are getting a PS6
Nintendo have just released switch 2.

But no, the trillion dollar company just leave us hanging on a mixed thread. Disgusting really.

Yep the unreal 5 Halo demo showed us what was happening, remake for all including PS5 day one.

Underwhelming
Archaic system systems and GUI
It really felt like ten year old game in some respects.
I rated the main Bethesda studio in the old days, Skyrim for example.
But they are miles behind top development studios for 2020s era. Stuck in past glory and with old systems and engine.

@Fiendish-Beaver
I think they should double down all big Microsoft AAA day one PS and switch 2 if suitable, maybe some back catalogue for switch 2.
Dump the Xbox console, really what is all that cost of development for, low console sales.

Give gamepass owners a fixed PC option with an Xbox badge for next generation.
Keep GPU going on PC etc.

Hang on is that not what they are doing. 🤣

This was so the right game for Xbox to put on PS5 and they made the effort for the PS5 Pro very good upgrade.
There was definitely a game type gap on PS5 and this was it.
There next FH will be straight to PS5 for sure and probably next year.
Will be interesting to see how gears does later this year as well.

@Fiendish-Beaver
I think all companies rightly or wrongly really look at cost and what return on investment they are going to get.
Then as development time passes by, decide to keep the game developing or cut the game, relating to financial assessment.
It’s the same on the high street in the UK every month we hear of shop chain closing some or all of their high street stores in favour of better return on line or the shop is not making any money after rent and employee costs.
I think in gaming of course we get more attached rather than we do with a shop.

Wonder how much they paid Crystal Dynamics before they stopped producing
Just millions of dollars gone.

It’s all getting a bit much now.
Hopefully that’s the end of it all and all those that lost their jobs and or studios get back up and running very soon.

So maybe it was a lot further behind in development than it looked.

Especially the part of you didn’t play it like they did it went a bit wrong.

Just how much development time and money has this all wasted.

If the studios were managed properly we could have had probably two amazing big AAA games out by now.

@Kaloudz
Dam you mentioned the F word, you best hide now.

It won’t be an Xbox console it will a PC with an Xbox logo on it playing PC games.

Just like the handheld is now with Asus.

That is definitely not a next generation Xbox console.

@Kaloudz
I’m to scared right now after perfect dark going to mention the F word.

Dam it gets more worse and sad for those.

Also let’s take into account Sony already have GT and don’t need FM.
But FH is a good for PlayStation sales wise.
If you are going to be a publisher you have think about these things.

@Kaloudz
Ages ago FM was on the sales decline and FH was on the sales increase.
Very sad but not surprised.

And the reality bomb, edges ever nearer.

@Fiendish-Beaver
It will be a PC with an Xbox badge playing PC games and not an Xbox console.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’m sure that is what are getting, it’s all pointing in that direction.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Just to help me please.
Will it run the game as a PC game.
Meaning it could run other PCs.

Meaning it is not a dedicated console version and would run on other PCs, specs permitting of course?

That to me makes the difference between it being a console or just a PC.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Yep it is what they have started doing already with handheld and VR and I think that is what the next Xbox will be.
A PC with an xbox logo on it. Maybe with a few tweaks but it will be playing PC versions of games and not a dedicated Xbox console versions.
So it’s a PC simple as that and that then means Xbox has left the dedicated hardware console market. So no Xbox home console.

Let’s see what happens, but outside the USA and to a smaller degree the UK they are becoming a no console brand.
And next generation will be even worse, whatever thing they release.
It’s a slow burn of becoming a joint venture in hardware like the handheld and a publisher only.
I’m still surprised they are bothering anymore with hardware even if it actually is a PC and not a dedicated home console.
But life’s a mystery and definitely is at Xbox HQ.

I did wonder why that started happening
Being very impatient I shall turn this off tonight.
Cheers for the info.

Hang on.
They best announce quick resume.
Else that’s it 🤣🤣🤣

Best feature this generation, bar none.

Not the right game for the start of $80.
Maybe a new Halo with a massive campaign, multiplayer and the forge, yes.

But Outerworlds 2, sales will be low especially on PS5 and also Xbox consoles because of lower console sales and game pass.

@Kaloudz
I don’t think it’s a death march. Just reality that an Xbox console running games specifically for that Xbox console won’t exist next generation.
It will run PC game versions and not specific Xbox console games going forward with new games. And also won’t be an upgradable PC.

Therefore it is not by definition an Xbox console, the only difference maybe it will run emulated old Xbox games.

It’s is not by definition an Xbox console like a PS5 or switch 2 where new games are made specifically and only to run on that console.

I then expect Xbox studios maybe to change name to Microsoft game studios or similar.

Now some people will like that then that is fine.

By by definition Xbox will no longer be in the pure home console market hardware wise anymore. It’s a PC.

Their studios will make games for PC, play anywhere, cloud streaming and for other pure home consoles like PS5 and 6 and switch 2 and 3.

@HonestHick
So basically Xbox will try to sell me a PC 💻
Well they won’t be selling me one.
I will stick with PS5 Pro and Switch 2 and then of course move on from there.

Unless Xbox do a 180 and we go back to Xbox 360 days.

@Fiendish-Beaver
No I won’t be buying the next Xbox console, unless there is a massive U turn by Xbox and we go back to the Xbox 360 days.

Which won’t happen so to answer your question no I won’t be, as there won’t be another Xbox true pure home console anyway.

I’m enjoying my Switch 2 at the moment which is getting the most play time right now.

@Millionski
Yes the 1.5 half years ago stuff and rumours etc are really all coming true.

Game pass Ultimate really is the only draw towards series consoles now and as sales are showing us it definitely isn’t a big enough draw and what console owners want else series consoles would be selling like PS5 and switch or even switch 2 now.

Xbox consoles and the massive gamble in game pass has failed Xbox really, some say it started with the Xbox one and some with the series consoles would having no exclusives and a very poor first two years game wise.

Either way it’s all collapsed at Xbox base and I can’t really see them releasing a next pure home Xbox console.
It at best will be a PC with an Xbox button playing PC games and Steam etc, basically whatever PR rubbish that comes out of the suits months at Xbox.
It will be PC that you can’t upgrade but may give some good value for money.

As for GPU as it stands day one all Xbox studio games we will have to just wait and see.

If the next Xbox so called home console is like the Rog handheld and not playing loaded xbox console games.

Then the next home console is not a home console. Just gonna be a PC really with an Xbox button.
That to me means they will have left the pure home console market.

Leaving Sony and Nintendo the remaining 2.

I wish Xbox would just come and say their true intentions home console wise.

We know Nintendos switch 2 and Sonys PS6 and PS6 pro 🤣.

Then again after the no Xbox handheld thing coming out now, I just can’t trust anything Xbox say.

If fable, gears, FH and Halo all release 2026 what a game pass year.

Halo combat remaster on unreal 5
They already sort of shown in last year in that test footage at 343.

I went in between B and C, some stuff me or to try on GPU.
Tailed off towards the end and the one final game should have been an Xbox Studio game.
No gameplay from fable or gear e day etc.

@Kaloudz
And that is the potential future danger with Xbox and why their consoles sales are really dropping off more.
Like you said some games they publish to other consoles some they don’t.
Then there is the future of Xbox consoles and what was the Xbox handheld.

Yes they can do what they like it is their business, but I think they are creating a hanging on a thread for Xbox fans.

It’s up to Xbox really of they want to make money publishing then yes.
They will probably hold off until the user base is a higher, I would have thought.
Also have they a development kit yet.

@Kaloudz
I so read that when he said when you blink.
I thought it was gonna happen like then.
But they left to ten minutes after.

@Kaloudz
Yep the only big new AAA from the show I want. RE9 Feb 2026.

Now Xbox bring on a new AAA game or games on Sunday.
No disrespect even though I enjoyed not an Avowed and I don’t me gears reloaded remake.

A new big AAA mega game the best a game be like RE9 or TOTK or Halo in the old days or last of us 2. Something massive AAA looking so perfect it purrs. A 92 plus on meta, you get the idea.

I’m a very big AAA game player only
RE9 was it for me, as simple as that.

Good release date as well Feb 2026.

Now let’s see if Xbox on Sunday can top RE9 for big New AAA for me.

@Titntin
I went in pessimistic and ended up pleasantly surprised.
Of course it’s now fast and slick, MKW is better than I thought it would be.
And TOTK is lovely and smooth at 60fps.
Looking forward to DKB I have a lot confidence in that game now after MKW and playing switch 2. Nintendo still have it with in house AAA.

@Titntin
It’s weird my VRR does not turn on, on my TV without the signal from the console.
But with switch 2 it is turned on, obviously I have no way of seeing if it’s working which it probably is not.
I’m guessing ALLM might be making the TV thinking VRR is there.

Either way it’s runs perfectly and 120hz mode is getting a signal to the TV along with HDR.

It’s basically an upgrade no different from say PS4 to PS5 and Xbox one to series x but obviously at different levels.

@fizban3332
It’s was an example of a good one and one that I thought would do well on Xbox.

@Juanalf
Well it was on the FH5 article and how well that has done on the PS5, which I also mentioned
So it was not trolling as it was on subject.

@Ricky-Spanish
Each to their own we all have different tastes.
I enjoyed and it’s well put together.

I was posting on push square about Sony having Astro bot on Xbox to make some more money and it would be a good fit.

The total self centred attitude over there about another Sony game being on another console.
It’s was really not great.

Any excuse on why it should not happen and it would be bad.

@Millionski
True but only MKW and DKB are Nintendo studios.
I hope they something else big for the end of the year from themselves, it has been 8 long years 🤣
It will sell loads that is for sure, funny how Sony put their showcase tonight, which I thought was a bit of bad taste really. Let Nintendo have their release, sort of respectfully like.

@Millionski
Yea I remember that, and thought 8 years to get ready and development kits haven’t going out.
One of many of Nintendos strange strategies.

It’s not like they have got lots of big in house AAA for this year by the looks of it.

I’m very surprised that Xbox to me have dropped the ball on the switch 2 as a publisher.

I thought they would have had say FH5 or say Avowed for switch 2 release day.

Perhaps as publisher they might turn out not to be that on the ball and take advantage.

@Kaloudz @Coletrain
I just thought overall that Xbox pushing game streaming the most and having I think the very best server warehouse etc, would make for the best quality game streaming, beating everyone else hands down.

I’m sticking with my Halo unreal 5 remake game to show up.

Perhaps someone get let me know this.

I have streamed both on PS5 and Series x.
Both first party games of similar requirements and quality.

My overall experience is the PS5 transfer to game was smoother.
Overall picture quality and movement etc better on PS5, even with Spider-Man 2.

So the thing is Xbox keep pushing this streaming games, but have an inferior product compared to Sony on PS5.

It just sounds so daft and wrong that way round when Xbox keep pushing game streaming, shouldn’t Xbox have the best and fastest quality service and gaming experience.

In UK really good internet at 200mb/sec.