@AverageGamer very cynical viewpoint there. I hope it gets used widely, it will make a series X games almost as good looking as a ps5 pro.

Not sure why a dev wouldn't use it, you'd always prefer that your products are in the best possible state, no?

@AverageGamer if you've never used it then you might not get how big a deal it is, but the difference in image clarity and stability between fsr 3 and fsr 4 is massive

Huge if it gets used. Will look nearly as good as a pro where frame time is acceptable

@themightyant yeah, have to agree on the combat, could have just left the boss battles in and I'd have been happier

@Llamageddon probably will be higher than that, but a man can dream eh. Fair enough on your views though, I do hope Xbox build a good stable of exclusives that leads to success, Helix is certainly a tough sell for mass markets

@IllusiveMan one can only hope that Xbox learned their lesson with Infinite!

@Llamageddon what would get you to part $1000 for a console if not this? It's the biggest play that they have. Imagine if Xbox put the dualsense haptics into an Xbox pad and sold TESVI running some insane path traced lighting at 4k60. I think I'd be down for that

@IllusiveMan if it's not a Helix launch title then they're missing a trick. I'm going 2028 on that basis alone

@Glassneedles such a shame it didn't sell better. I'm gonna miss creative unlimited money era game pass! Keeper was great too (although I've no doubt that was awful Vs budget)

@dkxcalibur yup, 14 hours for me too, and one of the most memorable games this generation. I still hum the Benji song now

@Kaloudz my issue with AI isn't quite that. Technology grows and evolves, sure, but never this quickly, with this little regulation or discussion.

Essentially, all of our lives and futures are in the hands of a handful of people, and we didn't even get the choice. No vote, no consultation, and everyone above you at work tells you how great it is! AI is a cancer, and of that I have no doubt buddy

@Kaloudz @SodaPop6548 AI provides nothing of any benefit to my life. If you use it in a more dilute form, like upscaling for video games, then I'm down for it. But when it takes my job (and it will), as well as my purchasing power, away from me then I hope to god someone finds Sam Altman and his ilk and forces them to shovel sh*t into each others mouths until they can't take any more

15, only had an Xbox for coming up to 5 years now so I'm ok with that!

First one was hellblade 1. Pouring one out for ninja theory

@Scrubchub I'm a FF7 sicko so I'm 67 hours in, doing absolutely everything I can and still not close to the end...still loving it! Sometimes even the mundane stuff is amazing because of the music. And I sneak it in at work sometimes on the Rog...

Too much to do with kids with Halloween, but might squeeze in a bit more Rebirth on Sunday night 🫡

@dkxcalibur got to chapter 3 and did the same. It's definitely a cool atmosphere, but the game is really boring to me

@Banjo- I feel like that's what Xbox modes new preview is, just making it look more like a series x/s shell. Just have to get rid of launcher windows now!

@Banjo- I suppose it's the OS they have issues with, but they've already said it'll run PC games so my biggest hope is that they're creating a development environment where people don't feel like they need to over optimise for Helix.

Perhaps the machine will choose the settings for us? Who knows..!

Expect this to just continue to yo-yo until Helix drops. Xbox is in preservation mode right now, with brand sentiment increasing all the time through consumer focussed moves.

When Helix specs/pricing are formally announced, that'll be the first big acid test.

If Xbox is the only publisher requiring whitelisted hardware then the answer is simple: stop doing that. It's effing ridiculous to be fair

I'm buying day 1, but I'm just finishing off Rebirth right now, then I want to do a quick 100% play through of Vice City to get the full feels before GTA VI.

Gonna be a good end to the year

@Banjo- same. Occasionally I feel like I've missed out on the odd PS5 game, but they'd have to be a bit more consumer friendly for me to go back next gen. Digital only with only one storefront and no keys elsewhere is a big red flag

Same. Indie games that are play anywhere, Xbox digitally, AAA games, now disc. Caveat of AAA digital if I'm using MS Reward points.

Honestly, the options are great. I wish more people would buy into the ecosystem because it puts the other two to shame.

My brother, who is an avid COD player (polar opposite to me in that regard) had a 24 month version of this with his last iPhone. He used it to play BO6 and cuphead, that was it 🤣

Assuming you can buy JUST the IP, then yeah there's something here. But we shouldn't sugar coat this: bioware have been failing for over a decade.

Veilguard was unlucky but come on, anthem was a disaster.

@Weebleman i think 10 hours per month would do me, I used to enjoy using it on weekends to play on handheld when kids were home watching Disney most of the day and I couldn't get to the TV

So can I use this for "stream your own game" without paying for GP Essential?

I'm fine with the statement. Even if it is full windows behind it the Xbox game mode will be more optimised by then. Already seems like a good update is coming as per windows central last week

I cannot believe I still haven't played this game. There's been so many good ones that I'm currently stuck in backlog hell and I plan to play them all

@Weebleman @banjo- my sentiment on PS entirely. Negatively framed Xbox articles are by far the most commented on, followed closely by the potential cost of PS6.

Still think the framing is pure bait though; it's journalistically poor.

Ouch. At that price it's up to Xbox to convince us we need it. I hope they do, I think there's a lot more potential for helix than ps6

@fatpunkslim with PSSR2 where it really shines is taking a sub-1080p image and making it 4k. We shouldn't expect quite the same from FSR4.1 on series X because it has much lower hardware acceleration capabilities (although better than a ps5 does)

But it should clean up aliasing significantly! And I think can allow for great 60fps experiences if developers are willing to optimise for it

@strzelec I don't know enough about QSSR other than what Digital Foundry had a look at. Seems to function well at a 1440p output.

FSR4.1 however is great. You can see on Jack Huynh's video what it does. Basically it's better than FSR3 quality setting whilst doing it in performance, similar frame rate but much more sharp and stable image.

Wishful thinking here but putting it into something like FF7 rebirth of High on Life 2 should basically clean them both up at 60fps

Huge news. I've used optiscaler on Rog ally z1e in a couple of games and even that unofficial version is transformative at 1.5 scaling factor.

(Also hoping it comes to Rog ally officially...)

For series X, we just got more 60 FPS opportunities people!

Thing is, my problem with AI isn't it's usefulness in writing code, checking over manual code etc. it's that it's advancement is totally unchecked.

That has and will continue to lead to job losses in tech, finance, even customer service roles. Like so many things in the world, nobody ever stops to ask the general populace: "Is this what you want?"

For me, emphatically, no.

@Gabrie I'd be up for that. As long as whatever they use is resellable then really that's all we could hope for

@Millionski totally agree. I have played astro bot at a mates house in full, and it's the best thing playstation has done for years.

Spiderman on PS4 I didn't mind, but all the other stuff just got a little too boring for me. For example, I think TLOU is fantastic, then they wrecked TLOU 2 by doubling the length, so naughty dog have totally lost my trust for fun factor now. GoW, technically brilliant but just not that fun. Horizon, ubisoft game with better visuals. I'm done with that stuff.

If I look at the IP Xbox has and the IP Sony has, yeah I'd buy into a helix for exclusives no question.

If Sony started reviving things that I actually cared about, like Jak & Daxter, Sly Racoon, Uncharted, Resistance, Killzone, etc. then it might be a different answer

If you could decompile the cloud gaming cost so I can stream my own games with game pass essential for more than 5 hours again that would be lovely Asha 👍

But how to do that? Aside from the AAAA studio thing in Poland, the best way for me would be to bankroll 3rd parties Moon Studios style. Get the smaller projects out there, and grow them if they do well initially

@Millionski I'm one of these unfortunate people who can percept judder, framerate issues and poor motion blur very easily, so whilst I really want to agree with your sentiment on switch 2, I can't until they fix that screen or release an OLED.

That said, I only paid £320 brand new for my ROG Ally z1e so I actually find it way more value, pound for pound, so to speak. But man, an OLED switch 2 is high on my wishlist

@kanedase7en "this is an Xbox" like so many things Xbox does is just too far ahead of it's time. A cloud gaming future is still likely as an entry point, once cost, artifacting and latency can be solved

Hardware wise, I don't see how the console industry recovers. It's already a price sensitive market and it's not attracting new, younger players (as far as we're aware anyway.)

But, at least there will be another gen for us longstanding console die hards 🫡

Excellent picture for this story, made my day

I'm the same. 2D or 2.5D indies especially are an absolute treat in handheld form. But the AAA stuff has to be on a big TV.

Still on the stock z1e Ally and as good as the Xbox ally x is, that price would just force me to feel like I had to play everything on it which isn't the way it should be! It's a "if it had gone on sale for £500 two years later" kind of purchase, but that's not happening with RAMpacolypse

FFVII Rebirth. It's a 2026 Xbox game right...

@Balaam_ I got 96% on persona 5 royal, I was missing 3 mandatory achievement because Xbox live was down when I got them. I fully concur with everything you've said

Yeah, it's been pretty great. If Xbox had advanced haptics like PS5 I'd be the happiest camper in the woods.

Oh and rewards, I barely pay for my games because of bing searches

@Kevin0104 vibes and setting: 10. Gameplay: 4. Worth playing for what it is but a slog

@Exerion76 transmedia products should increase the brand reach for the console. Look at the spike in Fallout 4 sales when that came out on Prime Video

@theduckofdeath yeah stream your own games was all I was thinking anyway, which would give PC gamers a way in, but only if cloud is super cheap to use.

Not a chance that they would offer rentals though. We'll see ads before games before we see digital rentals again!