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@Questionable_Duck I sure hope so, be a waste of time if they didn't after porting the others. I suppose I could be ok with a short exclusivity window of about 3 months, if it was development time related

My big big question here is whether there's any point picking up remake intergrade when it comes out. When Rebirth released on ps5, if you pre-ordered it digitally you got remake intergrade for no extra cost, so I'd prefer that route really

Think this might be a good time to announce the remake intergrade release dates for Xbox and SW2!

Would love FH6 to show up, I personally think it's too soon (no idea how they're even coping with that plus fable!) but maybe next year's TGS

I'd like to see a price drop! I played about 90 hours through GPU but I'm not subbed at the mo. The best it comes on offer for digitally is 42 quid, and I want that sweet sweet play anywhere, £30 would be nice for base game!

That's a hefty chunk of change and I'm not even sure we should be calling this a handheld unless you're a masochist. It's way beyond what would be comfortable

Not bought it yet, too much to play rn, but when I do I'll be giving it a buy on Xbox rather than GP so I can use it through play anywhere at my leisure. Excellent starting price too, what a great way to show the industry how it's done!

@BattleMonkey excessive motion smearing/ghosting, screen response time can't keep up with higher frame rates. When I get one I want it to feel like a genuine upgrade as a handheld.

No issues with what it's doing docked. Looks sick.

TotK on switch 1 (refuse to get Switch 2 until screen is sorted!), with a little bit of FF1 pixel remaster for good measure ♥️

In my experience you need a high base frame rate (60+) for the latency issue to go away with frame gen, otherwise better to just play without.

Again, the hardware and the internals look cool for this, but I'm still much more interested in the windows lite mode coming with it!

Game was excellent start to finish for me. I've done the dip in dip out on game pass with niche titles, but I always finish the big ones

@Markatron84 man they were sooo good. The music levels blew my mind.

I'm with everyone here, I don't want a remake of anything, just a new one again. And not 3d, keep it 2d please and thank ya

@TheOfficialJW the use cases are limited on ps5 and XSX though, and it's all software RT. If it can be implemented without a hit to performance like in Avowed or Doom the dark ages that's cool, but on a console when I'm sitting so far away from the TV, I'm not really seeing the advantage over a smooth framerate.

Like, how MGS Delta released is frankly embarrassing.

The console wars are over. Now, Sony and Microsoft will unite to take on Steam in the PLATFORM WARS!!

I'm certainly happy with the approach of not bothering with RT this gen. Once consoles can handle it well, then it should become more common, but until then I just want good res, stable performance and graphics Vs performance options.

Bravo DICE!

@Titntin wow that's some pretty keen insight from a dev haha thanks man!

Lumin is a really interesting one. I saw the DF video where jedi survivor turned GI off for performance mode and all of a sudden it was pretty much perfect apart from around water (that could have been fixed now.) just an example of a Dev pushing engines bells and whistles without even thinking how it will perform across multiple platforms.

@Titntin what I always struggle to understand with UE5 titles that run badly is why it can't be tweaked before release. If you try to set up a game on PC you make the settings work within the memory bounds of your rig, and often try to find a good locked frame rate if you're not running HFR.

So, presumably those same settings you find in a PC version are just chosen for you on a console. If it were me, I'd always find the smoothest 30 and 60 locked settings. I definitely wouldn't want to release something uneven.

But then, I'm not game dev so hopefully some will chime in over the coming weeks

@fatpunkslim yeah, I'd be utterly shell shocked if anything by the coalition didn't run smoothly. No wonder they go round helping other Xbox game studios with optimisation!

@fatpunkslim Indiana Jones was using a version of ID tech wasn't it? I remember something like "motor" being shown in the game opening. Don't think it used UE.

But like yeah, other stuff like avowed, Clair Obscur etc show that when the right choices are made with the scope UE5 can be great!

I love the way the puzzling elements are described but I hate the design aesthetic being so grim. When they do the sequel "Heaven is us" I'm in

@Runex2121 man I just can't get myself to take the leap on switch 2. I have a Rog ally z1e and id feel like it was a step backwards until they sort the screen issue.

I could see the Xbox ally x being good if the NPU can create a really good dockable experience (so like, native 1080p or FSR4 levels of quality) because then it's basically a PC switch. That alongside an upgraded switch 2 could be a dream combo for me at some point

@Kaloudz hell yeah man. Who's to say the writers aren't in a canvas of their own without even knowing!

Whatever they decide to do, that team have more creativity in the tips of their little fingers that most Devs could even hope to have!

@Kaloudz comment #9 spot on dude. There could be a whole inception level of storytelling left to go based on what they've already done. So many different ways they can go with this

Tariffs this, trump that, cost of living blah blah blah. This was caused by MASSIVE overinvestment in gaming because COVID made it seem like a quick and easy place for investors to make a buck. Then suddenly the market "matured" (or rather, got caught by it's own ludicrous ambitions) and the investments went away.

The result is the huge amount of layoffs we are seeing recently. This isn't a political or societal issue; as is always the case with layoffs, it's mismanagement and the ever unachievable goal of growth growth and more growth

If you can't make your game work properly on console you shouldn't release it. I'm sorry. It this isn't an engine issue it's a developer overcomitting on features that can't return a stable frame rate, which is essential for consoles.

My sentiment on this applies to mgs delta and oblivion remastered also. I'm not talking about games that are dropping a few frames here and there by the way, just games that clearly can't run without wild fluctuations

That's awesome. When I'm not subbed to ultimate I never see a decent reason to get core (not a huge multiplayer guy) but cloud gaming is something I use a lot when subbed.

Will depend on which games it applies to Vs what I own, but I'm definitely happy with this news!

I am genuinely interested in this one. Hope the music is tailored towards the teenage pop rocker in me

The only console I actually would want right now would be a S2 OLED. I'd happily stretch this gen out longer than normal, XSX is perfect for me.

The demo was incredible, this is a buy for me

I think I just want to reiterate on this thread, what a great product the Xbox ally x is. But the prices are absolutely INSANE. Despite the freedom it offers, and performance looks like it'll be great, it's a handheld PC. Nobody should feel like this is good value compared to a series x, ps5 or even switch 2. Save your money, game elsewhere, and wait for Asus, Xbox and everyone else to sell things for reasonable prices again. The world has gone MAD

I am not welcoming either game, but I'm welcoming what it symbolises. Goodbye walled gardens, it's been nice knowing you.

I'm convinced by the product but the price is going to kill it for me. But the X looks incredible. Stick with OG ally for now

@RiverGenie I did the same. I appreciated playing a piece of history, and I loved the story parts, but the gameplay doesn't grab me which is annoying because I can tell they're well made

@GeeEssEff nice. I'm not sure it'd play ball for me, my only "PC" is a Rog ally and it just won't do the visuals justice for this!

@Nintendo4Sonic I was expecting £50. £70 would be fair if they'd done a bit of a remake and added new story, but hey that's just my expectations based off of recent stuff. Oblivion remastered was 50, mafia the old country (similar length) was 50, seemed fair for this to be too

As much as I'd love to replay this one, £70 for a one-to-one remake is not happening. Deep sale next year for me!

Visually looks great though, so well done to the devs

@WildConcept6 PC next to my TV is not what I'm looking for with two feral children nearby to knock it over and spill milk on it 🤣

I think I'm just in that place (and of that generation) that I like the comforts of a console experience, but now the rumours of PC storefronts have made me greedy for the best of both worlds...

@WildConcept6 it's got me THINKING about PC builds for the future, but I'm not one to enjoy sitting at a desk or using KBM so seems almost redundant. I've got my fingers crossed that steam or MS make a PC/console hybrid that alleviates this issue entirely!

@WildConcept6 yeah good point, I got Lost Crown on Steam actually because it was priced lower than Xbox...

Other stuff though, I've had fun with death stranding directors cut, FF pixel remasters, cuphead, blue prince, south of midnight etc etc. Value is so subjective but I find myself enjoying lighter titles handheld, and AAA fare on the XSX. So it's a nice combo, but I couldn't buy the Xbox Rog ally X and be happy for a full generation

Edit: and xcloud stuff runs great too, much better than on a phone, so that's a good thing if you're into GP ultimate I guess

@Kaloudz hmm what's a good way to put it. You know 7 or 8 years ago when we all bought a switch alongside our Xbox or PS4? That's how handheld PC gaming feels to me. A supplement, an extra choice, but certainly not a series X replacement.

I love it don't get me wrong, play anywhere is great when I'm not in the mood for the TV, but I wouldn't necessarily want to run through FF16 in full on it over a console. But a FF pixel remaster, or a PoP the lost crown? Perfection 🤠

@Millionski i hope it comes with it to be honest. They presented it as showing these tags for games that reach 30 and 60fps (which I'd say are obviously console equivalent targets), and I know it's only a menu screen to you and me, but to a new user they might have no idea how to set the right frame rates or settings etc.

I do like it as a blueprint for the next gen though

I was hoping that they would have optimised settings that could be auto applied. Hopefully that's coming down the line

@kmtrain83 I'm sure it'll come today or tomorrow but not at ONL, it didn't feature yet

@Runex2121 I dunno man, that's gonna be an expensive game pass device. You're almost better off with a series s and xscreen lol. Who knows, the device might surprise us all

@ThCajunAsian all signs point to the white Xbox ally being a poor product for anything other than indie titles IMHO. Like @weebleman quotes from DF, what is the point!

I do like the look and specs of the black model though, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I pay those prices for a handheld

@Mcp2023 this is true, I have a z1e ally and 1080p is a moot point outside of indie gaming. 900p can be a bit of a sweet spot for AAA fare if you're ok with 30fps (which I am on that screen, the LFC is excellent) but at 720p I find the UI starts to lose clarity on most things

@Fiendish-Beaver again, true. The only logical way I can think around it is pure advertising on the dashboard, putting the MS or Xbox store front and centre.

But again, I wonder if it's simply a moot point at this stage. If that model isn't really working for them then anything sold via "Xbox" is a bonus

Unfortunately I didn't see anything that interested me personally (unless we're counting silksong), but I have to say that despite not being a fan of the genre, Chronos the new dawn looks cool

Begs the question, why not just use a 720p panel for the white one? Games still look sharp on steam decks and they run at 800p

@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not convinced Steam on console would be a massive issue for MS, even if users did have a preference for it.

I know that getting 70% is obviously worse than 100%, but you have to assume that the vast VAST majority of Xbox recent success is in software sales on other platforms. I honestly just don't think they care at this point, it's a gamble but if they pull of pc under a TV with a console like experience then it's one of the most transformative products ever released.

I share your concerns broadly because it is such a gamble, but this is Microsoft were talking about, nothing is off the table for them anymore

@Millionski yeah I'm super intrigued. Not by the chip itself, but the NPU...what will it be for...fsr 4? Back compat? Tell me you swines!

@somnambulance imagine trying to explain anything Kojima has produced to a child 🤣 happy for you though man, I've genuinely considered it a few times but found that MS rewards makes my Xbox gaming cheap as chips (plus I still love my switch OG, feels practically lightweight now but massive when I got it 7 years ago!)