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This is pretty embarrassing from the dev.
They took the gamepass deal because it’s money up front and less risk but then complains about lower sales than expected. Seems like he wanted best of both worlds and is now complaining because his dream scenario of double dipping didn’t come to fruition.

@Weebleman which devices has Sony blocked PlayStation game access via steam to? I mean they could but I do believe the future of gaming is multi-platform and I don’t think Sony would want to give up the sales. Xbox has been the #1 publisher with game sales since starting their multi platform strategy. With prices going up, consumers will likely buy fewer games so PlayStation will need to cast as wide of a net as possible. Especially with PlayStations blunders as of late such as concord and likely soon to be marathon and fairgames lol.

I don’t see PlayStation blocking game sales to a big chunk of customers especially if the customer has to purchase the game through steam and not directly through the Xbox store.

@TapeLoader I’m from Canada so here for a decent gaming desktop it’s typically 2k and up CAD. I should have specified the currency. It won’t be easy but I think Xbox could pull it off. And I agree if the gap in price between pc and console continues to shrink then it does make more sense to buy a PC.

@TapeLoader if Microsoft/xbox puts out a mid tier console/pc hybrid with xbox UI and access to steam and other launchers it would sell insanely well. I’m not interested in spending 2k+ for a pc not including good monitors etc. on the other hand why would I buy a PS6 when I could get the next Xbox and have access both Xbox games and PlayStation games via steam. I don’t care if it has the “shackles” of being a console I prefer a console experience as it is more intuitive and seamless compared to pc gaming. You’re looking at the idea from your hardcore gamer perspective but most gamers are casual and just want something that’s easy to boot up and play.

@TapeLoader did you watch the presentation? Sarah bond strongly suggested they are going in a hybrid pc/console direction

Started off strong but then just fizzled out. How did we not get any new info about fable, gears e-day, everwild, or the next forza?

I’m very excited for the outer worlds 2 and clockwork revolution looked good. ending the show with an COD reveal was extremely underwhelming.

On a positive note it seemed like the showcase confirmed that the future of Xbox is multi platform with access to Xbox library AND other libraries.

@Would_you_kindly Phil is as hypocritical as Jim Ryan. Before ps5 jim ryan said that new playstation games would be developed exclusively for PS5. its 2 years into the PS5 life cycle and just now are most new games exclusive only for ps5 and not ps4 lol. These are businesses and leadership on both sides has lied to consumers to gain popularity so its completely futile/inflammatory to argue over who is better or worse.

@Would_you_kindly FF7 Remake not coming to Xbox is a different story because that is a third party studio, Playstation doesn't own Square Enix. No xbox fan expects a playstation owned studio to release games on xbox, so PS fans should have the same expectations vice versa. I probably play my playstation more than my xbox but you gotta think rationally. Phil isn't hypocritical, he's made xbox games the most accessible they have ever been. 15$ a month and you can play any xbox exclusive whether thats on pc, xbox (budget series s or x), or heck even on a samsung tv without a console though the xbox app. Phil has been more generous to PS fans then he's needed to be, allowing previously multi plat IP's like diablo, cod, overwatch, etc still stay on PS even though they are now microsoft owned IP. If you have a xbox series S why are you even complaining you can still play this game LOL.

How can they expect 73% growth with no major game pass releases. I let my sub lapse because of this. Xbox needs some quality heavy hitters to come soon

Such a great game!! gameplay is so fun and tight. Like someone said above, this is the only arena brawler I've played that's in the same league as smash

Battle for middle earth 3 and lord of the rings the third age remake please 🤤

My wish list mirrors some previous comments
-Marcus fenix collection first three gow games fully remastered
-halo infinite campaign dlc trailer
-gears 6
-fable release date and gameplay trailer
-avowed release date and gameplay trailer
-new killer instinct
-star field gameplay trailer
-Star Wars exclusive? (Ps5 has kotor remake so if Xbox could secure a Star Wars game that would be awesome)
-new bioshock
-everwild gameplay trailer
-hellblade gameplay trailer
-red fall gameplay trailer
-new ori game?
I REALLY WANT A NEW LORD OF THE RINGS GAME!! Maybe a battle for middle earth 3? Or a lord of the rings rpg.

I feel like there are too many showcases for all the major companies (Xbox, Sony, Nintendo) and as a result the quality drops significantly. Realistically Xbox will save its major announcements/trailers for E3 so I would rather just wait for that than be disappointed.

the OG lego racers was incredible. if they could recreate that feel/style I would be so down for this game

This looks awesome. I heard rumors that its going to play from a god of war style camera angle, I wonder if thats true? Definitely want to see some gameplay!

I don't see this as a problem. As long as there is sufficient number of cool unlockables through the $10 battle-pass and from free progression then it shouldn't matter. If I added the total cost of every purchasable item from any other F2P game i'm sure it would total much more than $1000. Of course you have to pick and choose what to spend your money on.

If Xbox can nail all of its upcoming first party games, I think they could definitely be on par if not slightly ahead of Playstation. New Fable, Gears, Halo, Forza, Perfect dark, Everwild, Avowed, Outerworlds 2 have so much potential, not to mention the Zenimax exclusives. Then hopefully find more studios to revive franchises like Banjo, Viva, and Killer instinct. Sony will always dominate the third person action adventure genre they just have it perfected. But xbox could have a much wider diversity of excellent games.

@StylesT I'm with you on this... hopefully with the bigger budget they make it more of an action-adventure in a similar style to God of War. I found the combat mechanics in the first one way too basic and dull.

I agree with the complaints. These armour sets don’t have halo identity and these really are tacky and just meant to be as ridiculous as possible. That’s what makes halo so unique there’s no other game truly like it and I think that’s what makes some people concerned. How far down this path are they going to go with halo infinite? Is it going to be a bunch of flaming helmet rainbow guns Viking Armour spartans? Where’s the line where it’s not just outlandish cosmetics but cosmetics that were designed to fit within the halo universe. Not to sound like a huge nerd but halo has a MASSIVE legacy and I think 343i should try to preserve the halo image. Bringing in new content is great but at least put in an effort to make it fit in.

I think this looks great. Gives me call of duty 2 vibes.

Phil please put game pass integration into steam os.

@BlueOcean Wondering the same thing about game pass potentially being added to steam os. Thats a make or break for me because I don't have any games on steam so there's not much incentive for me to shell out the money. Also i'm kinda ***** with technology lol I don't want the bother of changing the OS and whatever else would need to be done.

Definitely going to wait until it comes out to watch more reviews and such. but if there is more functionality added with game pass i would definitely invest in this. 100x better than the switch OLED lmao.

extremely intrigued by this, can play pc exclusives, ported playstation titles, and gamepass games all on this thing. not to mention emulators and all that. I hope that Valve works with xbox to make a gamepass app accessible without uninstalling the OS. Perfect opportunity for xbox to get game pass onto a handheld device. Phil/xbox team would be crazy not to work with them. With playstation now being more open to porting older titles to pc it could be an great way to bridge the gap between xbox-pc-playstation.

I don’t know how to feel about this. I thought infinite was going back to its roots with combat? Definitely looks like a free to play multiplayer game and not the classic style halo multiplayer.

This game seems really fun , but for some reason it doesn't quite look next-gen. I just watched the new horizon zero dawn 2 gameplay trailer and it blew me away visually.

$30 damn! The nostalgia must be strong with this one.

Personally, I got extremely bored with division 2. Great concept but the combat to me felt bland and wasn't satisfying. Exciting news for division fans though.

@Rockboy247 Agreed! I have been holding out for it for gamepass too. It's gotta be coming sometime soon.

Game pass is avengers last hope.

100% buying one

the gameplay looks excellent. I hope they can weave the other parts of the game into a good package because the gunplay looks very doom-esque (which is perfect).

persona 5 royal!!!

@Fenbops I completely agree. I loved gears 5 but the open world part felt honestly quite boring. Go here kill grubs turn on radio tower then do it again at another location. Open world games are not always a good thing unless the missions are engaging and rewarding.

A halo tactics or halo wars 3 would be awesome. But a halo ODST 2 would be even better hehe

@eduscxbox I'm sure many people who bought the series x did so because they want to play games like halo, forza, gears, fable. I know thats why I bought series X. I don't think you can deny that exclusives have a huge impact on consumer choice in video games.

@Snake_V5 I completely agree. If nothing was exclusive consoles would have no purpose! everything would be played on pc. similarly to playstation thats why nintendo is such a powerhouse despite lower spec'd hardware, amazing first party games.

"Groundbreaking" "Unlike any other game thats ever been made". This sounds like cyberpunk level marketing hype and it worries me.

The graphics for this game looked god awful to be honest. At the very least make it look decent and not like an xbox 360 game.

I always thought the ak-47 looked like a pencil

Capcom would also be epic LOL

I would not be happy if it was Ubisoft. Ubisoft games are good but they lack that special impact, in otherwords are quite forgettable. With the acquisition of zenimax microsoft is already a heavy hitter in western RPG's. I could die a happy man if microsoft bought sega. Shin megami tensei, persona, sonic, golden axe, crazy taxi, bayonetta, yakuza, warhammer 40k dawn of war + company of heroes. If they are looking to diversify their gamepass offerings I think sega is the way to go.

I love the concept of this game. I hope it turns out well.

@VenomousAlbino We share the same dream my friend.

Honestly pump out as many star wars games as possible... at least a few of them will be really good. Should be interesting to see which studios can really nail it.

@PhhhCough @WillieFisterbut Yes!!! Bad company two is one of my favourite shooters of all time. Please EA make a bad company 3 I beg of you.

“Relatively clear concept, it MIGHT be a Witcher game”. So basically not clear on concept lol. just poking fun. I really do hope their next game is set in the Witcher universe because the Witcher series is just too good to let die. Witcher 3 is definitely my favourite game of all time hands down.

Probably a fall 2021 release if we haven't heard about it still, maybe summer if were lucky? I would rather they just don't say a peep until they actually announce something. Now I'm stuck wondering and waiting lol first world problems!

I may be in the minority here... but Ashen left game pass right before I joined! Always regretted not being able to play it on game pass and the game never goes on sale for xbox

I prefer for Ubisoft+ to not be on game pass. I would rather they take that money and put it toward acquiring studios like SEGA. Ubisoft games tend to all be quite similar in gameplay and go on sale for large discounts frequently. I would rather purchase the ubi games I actually like individually on a deep sale a month after release.