Thing is, I don't really need to see Forza. There's only so much communicating 'we made a fun car playground and filled it with cars' that can be done before it's pretty redundant. Unless they've made some massive change to the formula, I don't really need to know about it, I just need it shoved in front of me.
Honestly, with the spiralling price of RAM, this may well have turned out to be a smarter play than anticipated. New PCs are increasingly unattainable, and the next generation of consoles is looking troubled. If there's any market condition for platform-agnostic streaming to make headway in, it's the RAMpocalypse.
Especially looking forward to Vampire Crawlers, the finished/console versions of Moonlighter 2 (It's shaping up to be something special, folks!), Mixtape, and Denshattack!. And Forza and Fable of course, but that kind of goes without saying.
Way to the Woods definitely coming out 2026, definitely. Certainly not going to take the struggling solo dev yet another year!
Not many! Just The Exit 8, Avowed, Oblivion Remastered, Crypt Custodian, Ruffy and the Riverside, Wheel World, Boxville, South of Midnight, The Rogue Prince of Persia, Blacksmith Master, BALL x PIT, Winter Burrow, Powerwash Simulator 2, A Game About Digging a Hole, and Clover Pit.
Combat's pretty rudimentary and repetitive, but everything else about it is utterly stellar. The soundtrack, which essentially technically makes the game a gods-damned musical, is particularly of note.
There's some reasonably good deals here, a couple of these games haven't actually had any kind of discount yet, and some of them haven't gone below around 20%. There's also some absolutely awful choices that were on a deep discount just a few days ago. Hopefully the spreadsheet can help you avoid those. Assuming it works as intended.
@jesse_dylan It's not the best signposted deal. It's showing up as a tile in the 'Special Offers' section of the Deals page, with the image just being key art from My Time at Sandrock for some reason.
My Time at Sandrock is one of the two worst deals in the sale, ironically.
Thing is, he's not wrong. Gaming in general is losing out to more accessible and immediate pastimes like being fed a constant feed of algorithmically chosen slop.
There's no way that a 5 hour limit will stay in the long term. At a guess it's because they've only recently extended the streaming service to the other paid tiers, so they don't actually have the capacity on their current infrastructure to launch fully.
At some point they're going to want that free tier to exist because they can use it to sell games in less traditional markets or to these younger generations that don't look far past their phone for entertainment.
As fun as the first 5 Harry Potter books were, I've never liked the aesthetics of the films that have seeped into every extension of the franchise since. But then, I also don't love Jo Rowling's politics, and considering that all my friends are some level of queer I'd honestly rather play The Lord of The Rings: Gollum over this.
The problem here, of course, is that the stuff like the Fortnite pass and EA Play are being subsidized by the people who don't use it, so if they weren't being forced to chip in then those aspects would suddenly cost a lot more.
Bold claim, considering how many games get significant delays. Or just outright cancelled because Nadalla wants yet another round of 'efficiency' savings.
I gave it a whirl but spent the first 40 minutes getting lost and annoyed that there's no map, the following five minutes getting annoyed that the map vendor is in a quite remote location that I somehow missed in the first 40 minutes, and charges more per map than I'd managed to find so far in the game, and then immediately quit when I got killed by a trap a couple of rooms later in a location that I don't have the direction sense to find again, alongside all the money I needed to buy the map to find my corpse. At that point my brain's innate soulslike mechanics prevention mechanisms kicked in and forced me to uninstall the game.
Atari 50 spoiled me on this front and now a collection like this just feels incomplete if it isn't also a really well-presented museum and interactive documentary.
I'd have to assume there's a Oblivion: Remastered style rework of Fallout 3 in the works. Probably New Vegas too, seeing as they share a lot of assets.
@Nic-Noc20th-C Currently the infrastructure for cloud gaming only uses server rack versions of Xboxes, so in order to do PC as well they'd need a whole bunch of new server racks following a completely different standard and using completely different software to what they currently have.
@themightyant E3 used to feel incredibly cutthroat and competitive back when it was pretty much the only time in the year when gaming news could break into the mainstream. Every company was desperately trying to outdo each other in front of the press. I kind of miss that. But I also kind of like not sitting through sales figures, cirque du soleil performances, families of actors demonstrating motion tech, or well-dressed overpaid executives desperately trying to prove their gaming cred onstage.
Last year they resorted to padding their showcase out with games that they didn't even have footage for yet. I think they may have even showed indies that were nothing to do with them during the preshow. At this point pretty much everything they have would be new content for their ongoing live service games which are arguably the only thing that's consistently making money for them at this point, and also a chain they have put round their own necks that's slowly dragging them further into the abyss.
Best title on there by far is Hypnospace Outlaw, but it's come and gone before, and it'll probably come and go again (nearer the time when Dreamsettler comes out).
@h3s In 2018 the EU passed an anti-geoblocking law requiring that all EU versions of storefronts be usable by anyone within the EU. As we didn't leave until 2020 we inherited that law, so it's a legal requirement that MS allow UK residents to purchase things on the EU storefronts. So that's why you can just do that.
@norwichred Rock Band 4 came out on Xbox One. Not sure if the licences to transfer songs from older games are still available, but yeah there's still a version of Rock Band knocking about.
I mean, maybe? But it sure didn't work for Kameo. And Perfect Dark Zero didn't exactly go anywhere. I guess there were a couple of Condemned games, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.
There's a few minor things I'd change (why can you only pin two groups? That's not enough for quick access to Entertainment apps, the backlog, and for some reason Quick Resume somehow counts as a group?!) but aside from that the UI feels remarkably comfy right now.
Considering that the game knows whether you're using a controller or M&K, surely the better solution would be to give players the option to avoid folks using a different control system rather than folks playing on a PC?
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Re: Poll: In Order, Which Games Are You Most Excited For At The Xbox Developer Direct?
Thing is, I don't really need to see Forza. There's only so much communicating 'we made a fun car playground and filled it with cars' that can be done before it's pretty redundant. Unless they've made some massive change to the formula, I don't really need to know about it, I just need it shoved in front of me.
Re: A Year Later, Microsoft Remains Highly Committed To Its 'This Is An Xbox' Campaign
Honestly, with the spiralling price of RAM, this may well have turned out to be a smarter play than anticipated. New PCs are increasingly unattainable, and the next generation of consoles is looking troubled. If there's any market condition for platform-agnostic streaming to make headway in, it's the RAMpocalypse.
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2026: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
Especially looking forward to Vampire Crawlers, the finished/console versions of Moonlighter 2 (It's shaping up to be something special, folks!), Mixtape, and Denshattack!. And Forza and Fable of course, but that kind of goes without saying.
Way to the Woods definitely coming out 2026, definitely. Certainly not going to take the struggling solo dev yet another year!
Re: The First Gaming Showcase Of 2026 Has Been Revealed, And It's As Soon As Next Week
I overdosed on game showcases last year and gave up watching them sometime in August. By that time I'd watched trailers for over 3200 games.
I think there might be too many showcases?
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Have You Managed To Finish In 2025?
Not many! Just The Exit 8, Avowed, Oblivion Remastered, Crypt Custodian, Ruffy and the Riverside, Wheel World, Boxville, South of Midnight, The Rogue Prince of Persia, Blacksmith Master, BALL x PIT, Winter Burrow, Powerwash Simulator 2, A Game About Digging a Hole, and Clover Pit.
Re: Opinion: This Xbox Game Studios Gem Is My Game Of The Year For 2025
Combat's pretty rudimentary and repetitive, but everything else about it is utterly stellar. The soundtrack, which essentially technically makes the game a gods-damned musical, is particularly of note.
Re: OG Xbox Fan Spends Over A Year Making A 'Complete List' Of 630 Unreleased Games
"[as well as] forgotten games like a 3D remake of Chrono Trigger named Chrono Resurrection,"
Surely that was an unofficial fangame, so I'm not sure what that's doing there
Re: 2025 GOTY Contender 'Dispatch' Just Got Revealed For Switch, But What About Xbox?
@Trmn8r If you think this one isn't a game, you should see Blippo+. Literally zero gameplay, one of my GOTY picks.
Re: Halo 3 Wins 'Game Of The Year' As GameStop Reveals Its Full Set Of Awards For 2025
Why the ***** is Scott the Woz here?
Re: Xbox's New Buy One, Get One Free Sale Includes A Selection Of Indie Titles
Right, because I apparently don't value sleep, and because @jesse_dylan brought it up, Spreadsheets.
GBP Version: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_2qz2_VzzNlRyrJU7psMmmQ2yYHae_brh41TkjAtoaA/copy?usp=drivesdk
USD Version:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ykDr8KCJOAXHhIJqm7MFJyZhIuXZkXVHaOvgwgQhfKY/copy?usp=drivesdk
There's some reasonably good deals here, a couple of these games haven't actually had any kind of discount yet, and some of them haven't gone below around 20%. There's also some absolutely awful choices that were on a deep discount just a few days ago. Hopefully the spreadsheet can help you avoid those. Assuming it works as intended.
Re: Xbox's New Buy One, Get One Free Sale Includes A Selection Of Indie Titles
@jesse_dylan It's not the best signposted deal. It's showing up as a tile in the 'Special Offers' section of the Deals page, with the image just being key art from My Time at Sandrock for some reason.
My Time at Sandrock is one of the two worst deals in the sale, ironically.
Re: Xbox Announces New Fallout Pip-Boy Controllers, And They're Available To Buy Now
Not a fan. Doesn't feel like much thought has been put into it other than to shove part of the UI on the backplate.
Re: Xbox Teases 2026 Game Pass Lineup As It Delivers The Service's Final Update Of 2025
@dreadful They always have at least one licensed kids game for Christmas. It's there to keep the kiddies occupied.
Re: Thank Goodness You're Here! Is Bringing Its Absurd 'Slapformer' To Xbox This December
Reggie's wife could learn a thing or two.
Re: 16 Xbox Reveals Teased For Thursday's Partner Preview Showcase
You'd think this would be easier than it is, but there's just so many games these days that finding matches is hard.
Re: Poll: So, Are You Playing The Outer Worlds 2 In Early Access?
Between work, a new kitchen, and a backlog of recently released games it would be madness for me to pay for early access to another one.
Re: Xbox Has More Competition From TikTok Than PlayStation, Claims Microsoft Exec
Thing is, he's not wrong. Gaming in general is losing out to more accessible and immediate pastimes like being fed a constant feed of algorithmically chosen slop.
Re: Microsoft Issues Statement Denying Target & Walmart Are Pulling Xbox Products
Honestly, I'm surprised that supermarkets still have physical games in them at all.
Re: Microsoft Set To Announce 'Free' Xbox Cloud Gaming Tier With Ads
There's no way that a 5 hour limit will stay in the long term. At a guess it's because they've only recently extended the streaming service to the other paid tiers, so they don't actually have the capacity on their current infrastructure to launch fully.
At some point they're going to want that free tier to exist because they can use it to sell games in less traditional markets or to these younger generations that don't look far past their phone for entertainment.
Re: Talking Point: So, Have You Tried Out Hogwarts Legacy On Xbox Game Pass Yet?
As fun as the first 5 Harry Potter books were, I've never liked the aesthetics of the films that have seeped into every extension of the franchise since. But then, I also don't love Jo Rowling's politics, and considering that all my friends are some level of queer I'd honestly rather play The Lord of The Rings: Gollum over this.
Re: Xbox Fan Shares Their Concept For A Game Pass 'Select' Plan With Optional Add-Ons
The problem here, of course, is that the stuff like the Fortnite pass and EA Play are being subsidized by the people who don't use it, so if they weren't being forced to chip in then those aspects would suddenly cost a lot more.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Will Now Get 75+ Day One Titles Per Year, A '50% Increase' On Before
Bold claim, considering how many games get significant delays. Or just outright cancelled because Nadalla wants yet another round of 'efficiency' savings.
Re: PAW Patrol World Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (September 10)
All dogs go to heaven, except the class traitors in the Paw Patrol.
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong Has No Reviews Yet, So Here's What The Players Are Saying
I gave it a whirl but spent the first 40 minutes getting lost and annoyed that there's no map, the following five minutes getting annoyed that the map vendor is in a quite remote location that I somehow missed in the first 40 minutes, and charges more per map than I'd managed to find so far in the game, and then immediately quit when I got killed by a trap a couple of rooms later in a location that I don't have the direction sense to find again, alongside all the money I needed to buy the map to find my corpse. At that point my brain's innate soulslike mechanics prevention mechanisms kicked in and forced me to uninstall the game.
Seems pretty decent from what I saw.
Re: 13 'Quirky Classic' Games From The 1980s Are Heading To Xbox In Attic Archive
Atari 50 spoiled me on this front and now a collection like this just feels incomplete if it isn't also a really well-presented museum and interactive documentary.
Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Addition In August 2025?
I've been playing a LOT of 9kings. Like, way too much.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade Gamescom Opening Night Live 2025?
It started with Bubsy and went downhill from there.
Which isn't quite as damning as it sounds as Fabraz's take on Bubsy looks genuinely fun and charming. But still.
Re: Three Games Announced In 24 Hours As GameMill Unveils New Lineup Of Xbox Releases
Is there any more appropriate a publisher name than 'Game Mill'?
Re: Three Big Xbox Sales Are Kicking Off August 2025, Including A 'Deepest Discounts' Sale
Oh, right, yes, there is a THQ Nordic showcase today, isn't there? I'm sure that'll be... something.
Re: Xbox Design Lab Has Now Been 'Temporarily On Hold' For Six Months
Did they fire everyone? They seem to do that a lot.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Has Multiple Fallout Projects In Development, Including 'One You're All Wanting'
I'd have to assume there's a Oblivion: Remastered style rework of Fallout 3 in the works. Probably New Vegas too, seeing as they share a lot of assets.
Re: Rumour: Multiple Studios Interested In Making New Banjo-Kazooie Game
Honestly I think it's time to license it out to some indies and see what they make of it.
Re: Opinion: It's Nice To See ActiBlizz Titles Coming To Xbox Game Pass, But We Want More
@Nic-Noc20th-C Currently the infrastructure for cloud gaming only uses server rack versions of Xboxes, so in order to do PC as well they'd need a whole bunch of new server racks following a completely different standard and using completely different software to what they currently have.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
My spreadsheet has it at a 2.87/5. For comparison last year's was 2.9/5, so same old same old.
Re: Last Chance! What Are Your Final Hopes For The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
I want to be surprised. It's been a long time since I've been truly surprised.
Failing that, a nice batch of Indie game pass titles.
Re: Our Predictions For The 2025 Xbox Games Showcase
@themightyant E3 used to feel incredibly cutthroat and competitive back when it was pretty much the only time in the year when gaming news could break into the mainstream. Every company was desperately trying to outdo each other in front of the press. I kind of miss that. But I also kind of like not sitting through sales figures, cirque du soleil performances, families of actors demonstrating motion tech, or well-dressed overpaid executives desperately trying to prove their gaming cred onstage.
Re: Ubisoft Forward Showcase Not Happening This Summer, Confirms Team
Last year they resorted to padding their showcase out with games that they didn't even have footage for yet. I think they may have even showed indies that were nothing to do with them during the preshow. At this point pretty much everything they have would be new content for their ongoing live service games which are arguably the only thing that's consistently making money for them at this point, and also a chain they have put round their own necks that's slowly dragging them further into the abyss.
Re: Eight Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass In Early June 2025
Best title on there by far is Hypnospace Outlaw, but it's come and gone before, and it'll probably come and go again (nearer the time when Dreamsettler comes out).
Re: Xbox Copilot Now Live For Testing As Microsoft Introduces Its AI Companion
Ugh. More shoehorning in AI where it absolutely does not need to be.
Re: Xbox Announces 'Retro Classics' For Game Pass, 50+ Activision Titles Included
Antstream really needed this win, so that's nice for them.
Re: Poll: What Score Would You Give Atomfall On Xbox Game Pass So Far?
The audio completely stopped working within the first 5 minutes, like I walked away from the first room and left my ears behind.
Re: Report: Hogwarts Legacy DLC Cancelled, Definitive Edition Scrapped As Well
Good lord, WB are in a mess.
Re: Xbox Players Say They're Being 'Banned Indefinitely' For Using A VPN
@h3s In 2018 the EU passed an anti-geoblocking law requiring that all EU versions of storefronts be usable by anyone within the EU. As we didn't leave until 2020 we inherited that law, so it's a legal requirement that MS allow UK residents to purchase things on the EU storefronts. So that's why you can just do that.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Will Add Two-Minute Time Limit To THPS4's Career Mode
They didn't really crack the more open THPS until THUG, so no objections here.
Re: Hundreds Of Delisted Xbox 360 Games Now Have The Potential To Return On PC
@BacklogBrad This isn't even emulation; They're actively decompiling x360 software and then patching it to run natively on x86 PCs! It's incredible!
Re: Xbox Is Getting A New 'Gibson Les Paul' Guitar Controller This Year
@norwichred Rock Band 4 came out on Xbox One. Not sure if the licences to transfer songs from older games are still available, but yeah there's still a version of Rock Band knocking about.
Re: BioWare Co-Founder Recalls 'Moronic' Xbox Advice That Potentially Ruined A Franchise
I mean, maybe? But it sure didn't work for Kameo. And Perfect Dark Zero didn't exactly go anywhere. I guess there were a couple of Condemned games, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Happy With The Current Xbox UI As It Stands In 2025?
There's a few minor things I'd change (why can you only pin two groups? That's not enough for quick access to Entertainment apps, the backlog, and for some reason Quick Resume somehow counts as a group?!) but aside from that the UI feels remarkably comfy right now.
Re: Soapbox: With Xbox Games Now On PS5, Microsoft Needs To Ditch Forced PC Crossplay
@Kezelpaso Well, more fool on me then!
Re: Soapbox: With Xbox Games Now On PS5, Microsoft Needs To Ditch Forced PC Crossplay
Considering that the game knows whether you're using a controller or M&K, surely the better solution would be to give players the option to avoid folks using a different control system rather than folks playing on a PC?