Also like to add, this goes out to all those all digital fanboys - - this is what you'll get. Do you want $80-$100 games? Really? Do you?
Price gouging will be the norm. Physical media is not broke. Why try fix it. No need to. People have no idea what they're asking for. When see how bad getting screwed. Will be too late. Nothing but nonstop, biting the pillow.
$80 is completely pricing me out buying new games. I have can afford it, yes. But I simply can not, will not, justify that price point for video game. Just not happening.
There is no reason to charge that much for a video game. None. Scale back costs. Do games need high expense voice actors? No. I could do just as good work and my pay be less than what pay voice actors now. I'm not joking, either.
I have plenty of backlog to play that last me probably for year or two. So I can wait for decent sale or just never buy at that price.
Justice League, absolutely, positively, unequivocally, totally, should been just a single player game with maybe 4 player co-op.
Forcing the game to basically be live service model, just to chase money, was pure failure. Whoever made that decision should never be allowed to work in gaming ever again.
This is probably how the real and honest conversation behind closed doors went:
The "complexity is, we want to make sure the consumer, owns nothing, will always be forced to rent everything, and have zero rights to anything that consumer ever purchases. We will continue to tout how awesome being all digital could be. Then after the consumer is locked in and consumer then realizes the grift is in full effect, past point of no return, and understands it's truly a terrible idea, we pull the rug out from under them. Leaving all screwed over.
Was very, very excited for Dune Spice Wars. Played day one on game pass. The font was soooooo unreadable and small in that game, I quit playing after about 30 mins.
Followed couple updates see if that would be addressed. Did not see anything. Deleted game. Never looked back.
@Lup Far as Clair Obscure, Heard, turn based combat, immediately lost all interest.
It also hits on HUGE personal pet peeve of mine. Stupid names, stupid titles. Any time see any those it automatically sends me into a Seinfeld rage.
Clair Obscur Expedition 33. Whose Clair? Why she obscur? How did she get so obscur? Why she on an expedition? Why not just call it Expedition 33? Why add a name on inanimate object? We don't say Jenny Concealed Appalachian Trial? Do we?No. We don't. We don't say that.
@ValentineMeikin Ummm, I really think it's not because of Trump as much it is because of greed. Remember when companies used covid as excuse to charge more, for sake of just charging more. "Covid tax" was just greedy and disgusting grift on consumers.
But yours (and I'm right with you) is perfect example of why Game Pass is worst idea in gaming and why Xbox Live was superior.
If we drop game pass. How do we play online then? From my understanding, game pass replaced Xbox Live as way play games online (except free to play games). Meaning we are stuck paying for game pass in some manner.
@IOI Oh, I've said that for close two years now on here. Absolutely going see Grift Pass hit around $50 dollars in few years if Microsoft wants it to survive.
Much, much, much, much, much, much, much, Preferred Xbox Live. Was able get 12 month card $40-$50 every year. If Grift Pass did the same for Ultimate 12 month card for $100 I'd be more forgiving about Grift Pass.
@Ricky-Spanish Oh I agree 120% the "advancement" from to gen to gen at this point is joke.
For me, if someone played something from Xbox One and Xbox Series X, the only difference think I'd say is solid state drives and quick resume. Games for most part look and play the same.
Let's hope this new Xbox is legit advancement. Not getting my hopes up as truly believe it will be very much like Xbox version of the Switch.
@WildConcept6 The Series S is not only an unnecessary disaster, but, you actually have it completely, totally absolutely, unequivocally, backwards - the Series S is holding back the Series X since any developer has to factor in the Series S into its development. Which is disaster with it being a less powerful, and less capable console when compared to Series X.
But do truly appreciate your contribution to the conversation, despite having it backwards.
@Ricky-Spanish Series X is actually a legit, next gen console.
Series S is like when go to the Dollar Store and buy their knockoff, imitation products, thinking getting real thing.
Never good idea.
We always have this conversation lol. I enjoy it and not mean beat you up over it. But hopefully are finally seeing Series S is sooooooo much more trouble than what is worth. Series X is only way to go.
@Titntin If Microsoft NEVER released the joke of console known as Series S. No one would be having this conversation. Was terrible idea then and Series S terrible idea now.
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Re: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre Becomes 'Fully Realized' As Dev Ends Support On Xbox Title
Nightmare on Elm Street next?
Re: Three Games Are Available This Week With Xbox Game Pass (May 13-16)
@Fiendish-Beaver Sweet set. You'll enjoy displaying for sure.
Re: Three Games Are Available This Week With Xbox Game Pass (May 13-16)
Really wanted to enjoy the first Warhammer: Vermintide. But the game had incredible soap opera effect in the graphics. Hurt my eyes. Gave me headache.
Only other game did that to me was Rage 1 on the Xbox 360.
Both games really wanted to play. Just couldn't do it.
Re: 2K Studio Says Next Game 'Might' Be $80 Due To Doubled Development Budget
Also like to add, this goes out to all those all digital fanboys - - this is what you'll get. Do you want $80-$100 games? Really? Do you?
Price gouging will be the norm. Physical media is not broke. Why try fix it. No need to. People have no idea what they're asking for. When see how bad getting screwed. Will be too late. Nothing but nonstop, biting the pillow.
Re: 2K Studio Says Next Game 'Might' Be $80 Due To Doubled Development Budget
$80 is completely pricing me out buying new games. I have can afford it, yes. But I simply can not, will not, justify that price point for video game. Just not happening.
There is no reason to charge that much for a video game. None. Scale back costs. Do games need high expense voice actors? No. I could do just as good work and my pay be less than what pay voice actors now. I'm not joking, either.
I have plenty of backlog to play that last me probably for year or two. So I can wait for decent sale or just never buy at that price.
Re: Warner Bros Games Revenue Declines By Almost 50% At The Start Of 2025
Justice League, absolutely, positively, unequivocally, totally, should been just a single player game with maybe 4 player co-op.
Forcing the game to basically be live service model, just to chase money, was pure failure. Whoever made that decision should never be allowed to work in gaming ever again.
Re: Lots Of Xbox Games Have Suddenly Been Delisted In Some Countries
@Fiendish-Beaver Believe that usually you'll be able to re-download.
But, and this important part to ALWAYS remember, if Microsoft shuts servers down, for any reason, then you are out luck.
Remember that, when people constantly preech, that all digital is sooooooo wonderful.
Re: Lots Of Xbox Games Have Suddenly Been Delisted In Some Countries
Being all digital is amazing isn't it!?!
Can't wait for EVERYTHING to be just only digital. It's sooooooo convenient to own nothing you pay for.
Really hope people wake up soon, and fight against it. It's only the beginning. It WILL NOT get better.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Linear Vs. Open World Games On Xbox?
If done well, I'm ok either way.
Re: New Game Boy Advance Title Jumps To Xbox Consoles This Summer
Well...yea. Game boy type games been on game pass for years now.
Honestly been the quality level that vast majority games are on game pass.
Re: Xbox Developer Shares Insight Into Why Physical Releases Are 'Complex'
This is probably how the real and honest conversation behind closed doors went:
The "complexity is, we want to make sure the consumer, owns nothing, will always be forced to rent everything, and have zero rights to anything that consumer ever purchases. We will continue to tout how awesome being all digital could be. Then after the consumer is locked in and consumer then realizes the grift is in full effect, past point of no return, and understands it's truly a terrible idea, we pull the rug out from under them. Leaving all screwed over.
Re: Xbox Handheld Gets Leaked, First Photos And Details Revealed
Still believe majority, not care, not want, this. Probably will have decent launch, then sales dropping off hard and fast.
Just my opinion. May sell like crazy.
Re: BF6 Release Window Update, Full Reveal Scheduled For 'Summer'
Standard edition will retail for, guessing, $275?
Re: Talking Point: Will Xbox Game Pass Get A Price Increase This Year?
@GoldenPants The answer is yes in both cases.
I've heard both sayings. Both are awesome for implying yes. Lol
Re: Talking Point: Will Xbox Game Pass Get A Price Increase This Year?
Will Xbox Game Pass Get A Price Increase This Year?
Well? Does the Pope wear a cross?
Re: Xbox Is 'Spitting Pure Fire' Right Now, Says Baldur's Gate 3 Exec
Xbox Is 'Spitting Pure Fire' for Playstation Right Now...."
There I fixed it lol.
Yep, I'm still bitter about it. If Playstation put their games on Xbox. It be lot easier to stomach.
Re: Five Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass In Early May 2025
Was very, very excited for Dune Spice Wars. Played day one on game pass. The font was soooooo unreadable and small in that game, I quit playing after about 30 mins.
Followed couple updates see if that would be addressed. Did not see anything. Deleted game. Never looked back.
Huge shame. Really looked forward to it.
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Title For April 2025?
@GemDog669 Now with that knowledge makes all the difference in the world.
But are many English names and titles send me into the annoyingverse.
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Title For April 2025?
@Lup Far as Clair Obscure, Heard, turn based combat, immediately lost all interest.
It also hits on HUGE personal pet peeve of mine. Stupid names, stupid titles. Any time see any those it automatically sends me into a Seinfeld rage.
Clair Obscur Expedition 33. Whose Clair? Why she obscur? How did she get so obscur? Why she on an expedition? Why not just call it Expedition 33? Why add a name on inanimate object? We don't say Jenny Concealed Appalachian Trial? Do we?No. We don't. We don't say that.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From May 2025's Future Games Show
Wish those Diablo games would come to Xbox. I'm not playing any those on a phone. Just no. Big no.
Re: Here's What Might Leave Xbox Game Pass In June 2025
Honestly had no idea Callisto Protocol was even on game pass.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
@ValentineMeikin Ummm, I really think it's not because of Trump as much it is because of greed. Remember when companies used covid as excuse to charge more, for sake of just charging more. "Covid tax" was just greedy and disgusting grift on consumers.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
The poll misses the choice to vote, *#%¡, no
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@AndroidBango Hey! You copied my post! Word for word! Not joking.
I'm flattered though. Lol
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@Titntin I'm with you 110%.
But yours (and I'm right with you) is perfect example of why Game Pass is worst idea in gaming and why Xbox Live was superior.
If we drop game pass. How do we play online then? From my understanding, game pass replaced Xbox Live as way play games online (except free to play games). Meaning we are stuck paying for game pass in some manner.
It is complete grift from Microsoft.
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@Fiendish-Beaver Yes. You get it.
No idea why majority people not get or see it. It's all right in front of their eyes, if just open them.
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@IOI Oh, I've said that for close two years now on here. Absolutely going see Grift Pass hit around $50 dollars in few years if Microsoft wants it to survive.
Much, much, much, much, much, much, much, Preferred Xbox Live. Was able get 12 month card $40-$50 every year. If Grift Pass did the same for Ultimate 12 month card for $100 I'd be more forgiving about Grift Pass.
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
Lol subscriptions are the future?
Nah, game pass be $50 month in couple years. If it wants to survive.
Re: ARC Raiders Set For Huge Xbox Launch As Previews Say It's Better Than Marathon
"Yes, ARC Raiders makes Marathon look bad".
Nope, Marathon makes Marathon look bad. Lol
Re: Randy Pitchford Shuts Down Claims That GTA 6 Is Affecting Borderlands 4
Pitchford also has a bridge to sell you.
He probably has the property deed on his infamous USB drive.
Re: Digital Foundry Impressed With Oblivion Remastered, But Xbox Series S 'Takes A Hit'
@Ricky-Spanish Oh I agree 120% the "advancement" from to gen to gen at this point is joke.
For me, if someone played something from Xbox One and Xbox Series X, the only difference think I'd say is solid state drives and quick resume. Games for most part look and play the same.
Let's hope this new Xbox is legit advancement. Not getting my hopes up as truly believe it will be very much like Xbox version of the Switch.
Re: Digital Foundry Impressed With Oblivion Remastered, But Xbox Series S 'Takes A Hit'
@WildConcept6 The Series S is not only an unnecessary disaster, but, you actually have it completely, totally absolutely, unequivocally, backwards - the Series S is holding back the Series X since any developer has to factor in the Series S into its development. Which is disaster with it being a less powerful, and less capable console when compared to Series X.
But do truly appreciate your contribution to the conversation, despite having it backwards.
Re: Gearbox Announces New, Earlier Release Date For Borderlands 4 On Xbox
@Ricky-Spanish Presequel did feel cool while playing due to that gravity feature.
But really didn't feel like borderlands game much at all. Granted a different developer did make the game. So is understable.
Re: Gearbox Announces New, Earlier Release Date For Borderlands 4 On Xbox
@Cakefish It's not a Bugthesda game. It might be ok and playable enough on launch. Lol
Re: Gearbox Announces New, Earlier Release Date For Borderlands 4 On Xbox
Sounds like someone is doing their best to hopefully avoid GTA 6. Smart move.
Re: Far Cry 4 Getting Native 60FPS Patch On Xbox Series X|S & Game Pass
@ButterySmooth30FPS Noticed that too.
Maybe that is why Microsoft have quietly abandoned the FPS Boost feature. Can't even remember last time saw game added with that feature.
Re: Xbox Golden Week Sale 2025 Now Live, 250+ Games Discounted
@IronCrow86 Agree 110%.
Re: Subscriptions Like Xbox Game Pass 'Not The Future Of Gaming', Says Analyst
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Re: Rumour: Xbox Working On Three Controller Prototypes, Including The Elite Series 3
My bet is Elite 3 being next gen release. Hope it is worth the wait. Loved all the Elite controllers so far.
Re: Subscriptions Like Xbox Game Pass 'Not The Future Of Gaming', Says Analyst
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Re: Digital Foundry Impressed With Oblivion Remastered, But Xbox Series S 'Takes A Hit'
@Titntin I know, I know.
Just wish people would realize Series S is terrible idea. Fact basically every week there is yet another game that struggles on it.
Series X is honestly only way to go.
Re: Digital Foundry Impressed With Oblivion Remastered, But Xbox Series S 'Takes A Hit'
@Ricky-Spanish Series X is actually a legit, next gen console.
Series S is like when go to the Dollar Store and buy their knockoff, imitation products, thinking getting real thing.
Never good idea.
We always have this conversation lol. I enjoy it and not mean beat you up over it. But hopefully are finally seeing Series S is sooooooo much more trouble than what is worth. Series X is only way to go.
Re: Digital Foundry Impressed With Oblivion Remastered, But Xbox Series S 'Takes A Hit'
@Titntin If Microsoft NEVER released the joke of console known as Series S. No one would be having this conversation. Was terrible idea then and Series S terrible idea now.
Re: Digital Foundry Impressed With Oblivion Remastered, But Xbox Series S 'Takes A Hit'
Wait? Another article that shows Series S is bad idea? Say it isn't so?
For years repeatedly said Xbox Series S is and always a bad idea. What seems on weekly basis of issues trying to run games.
Hopefully Microsoft have seen how terrible an idea it is and will not repeat this horrendous decision with next gen of having two consoles.
Re: Subscriptions Like Xbox Game Pass 'Not The Future Of Gaming', Says Analyst
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Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Kaloudz I would not mind it a much if Playstation were putting titles on Xbox in turn as well.
I'd really like play Spider-man, horizon Dawn, etc.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
In my opinion, just makes Microsoft that much faster in becoming the next Sega.
Not fond of that as I really, really, really, like the Xbox controller.
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City - Unfinished Business Blasts Onto Xbox In July 2025
@Kaloudz Not able to play them?
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City - Unfinished Business Blasts Onto Xbox In July 2025
Very excited for this!
Super. Excited!
Re: Digital-Only Xbox Series X|S Consoles Have Accounted For 75% Of Sales So Far In 2025
Sorry. No disc drive. No console sale for me.
I use my console as entertainment media hub. Streaming apps. 4k Blu-rays. Etc.