@Masquerade443 "They work forever & transition automatically to other devices."
Until they don't.
I buy physical media to this day (so now you know at least one). Physical media is absolutely superior, especially in AV quality. No one can stop me accessing any movie I own (Playstation people will tell you much different story with movies they've lost access to AFTER already PAYING full price).
A lot of people today not have the foresight to realize they are going to be paying a lot more for things in digital media when forced buy a movie or album multiple times when their access is blocked or stopped. And that's not even counting the price gouging consumers will face in all digital.
All digital is a scam. Any time a company or government says something is good or better for you - it's not.
@FraserG "The idea of a future where consoles are replaced by streaming solutions doesn't sound exciting to me whatsoever...."
Exactly. You nailed it.
No one wants to stream low resolution, latency filled experiences, that make gaming the equivalent of watching a movie today on VHS when already own superior 4k transfer.
Plus, the AV quality of physical media is Leaps and bounds superior to all digital. Not even a question or debate.
I've said before, and I'll keep saying it, if next Xbox DOES NOT come with an INTERNAL disc dive. I will NOT purchase. Ever. It's that simple. It's not negotiable.
No internal disc drive. No buy.
I've been with Xbox since launch day back in Nov 2001. No internal disc drive is and WILL BE bridge too far and the end for me.
"Reward full Xbox completions or rare achievements with MS Rewards points"
I'm 99.999999999% certain I read decades ago (want say Official Xbox Magazine) that was the original purpose of achievements as currency to purchase DLC. Which is the main reason I absolutely despise achievements even to this day.
I will avoid this cheap brainwashing attempt to screw gamers into dystopia of an over priced digital world.
I'm not a lazy obese loser too big get out my chair to put disc in or switch disc out. I'll not be bothering to swap licenses anymore than Arianna Grande needs a diet.
But heard that stupid machine is not in it which absolutely has me wanting to play the game.
That is the ONLY reason never got into assassin's creed. For me, I would enjoyed it million times more and actually played the series if machine was out. Feel franchise be best if played as historical period pieces. Not some crazy sci-fi stuff.
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, miss MLB 2k. The pitching controls leaps and bounds best I've ever played. Fielding and batting, I enjoyed as well.
@Balaam_ Thank you. You understand exactly my wish. People not really take the time or foresight to understand things. That's why we are in situations we are in now.
@PROPS Oh forgot say totally agree on supply chain issues. I call it the orange juice effect.
Florida will get hit hard by hurricanes and say had raise orange juice prices due to weather. Following year, basically no storms. But prices not go down.
Such a racket.
Game prices will do same in all digital world. People not see it. But will be upset soon when it happens.
@PROPS Absolutely I'm the same and try to buy on sale too. Really find it helpful to utilize the wishlist feature and visit that on console every Tuesday evening. My thing is just wish people would realize they will be getting shafted soon. Look at physical copy price, then look at digital price. Why is the digital price more? The overhead is just not there. No disc pressing. No shipping. No damaged product cases, etc. It will be very, very, very, very, anti-consumer soon when force $80-$100 standard edition on gamers. And people brought it on themselves. Majority just trying be trendy or hipsters.
And definitely not get me started on that covid shame. Business did not miss a beat lol The whole "covid charge" many charged was ridiculous and incredibly fraudulent and unethical. It's like why am I being charged this? What's it for?
This is straight up a ploy to price gouge consumers for games. Look forward to $80 - $100 standard editions and pretty much no sales. Everyone asking for all digital going to get exactly what asked for. But it's absolutely not what wanted.
Mark my words. This will NOT be good for consumers.
@oopsiezz And that is exactly the very mindset destroying Xbox.
Game Pass cannibalizes sales. Plain and simple. That whole, "I'll just wait for game pass." is disastrous. What if never goes to game pass, or goes to game pass 5 years later. Whatever that game is, it has now lost sales and that very well causes a studio to close.
That's just one example.
Game pass causes reduction in game sales, period.
Now, for the market that really enjoy, 8 bit game boy color quality level, side scrolling, jump over lava pits games, that looks and plays like from late 80s, early 90s? Great. Revamp and rebrand game pass with only those games and call it indie pass. Those gamers can play that for say 5 bucks a month.
But Game Pass needs to go. It's an unsustainable business model.
Or.....how about when is world of warcraft coming to Xbox? There must be sizeable untapped audience there? I'd play it. But in no way shape or form will I pay subscription for it. That's one main reasons I play Elder Scrolls Online. Buy expansions and never need pay monthly subscription.
But elder scrolls online is running itself in ground with its recent changes. My enthusiasm is really dropping.
@RadioHedgeFund Developers are not being smart about game budgets while making a game.
Biggest example are voice actors. I can do just as good or even better job than these actors today for fraction of what these voice actors are demanding. All they need do is contact me and I'll give them heck of performance at an incredible price.
@Sheppard Good right in theory. But Microsoft wants PC storefronts on Xbox. That customer base is really untapped. Take me for example. I have ZERO interest in PC gaming, like ABSOLUTE zero. No interest in buying $1000 graphics card every 3 months just to play newest game on 30 inch monitor.
So that PC marketplace on Xbox if I purchase games will give Xbox a cut of sale they never had before. It's just revenue decision.
Highly doubt the next Xbox will not have PC marketplace built in day one.
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Re: SEGA & Ubisoft Leaders Share Their Thoughts On The Future Of Physical Games
@Masquerade443 "They work forever & transition automatically to other devices."
Until they don't.
I buy physical media to this day (so now you know at least one). Physical media is absolutely superior, especially in AV quality. No one can stop me accessing any movie I own (Playstation people will tell you much different story with movies they've lost access to AFTER already PAYING full price).
A lot of people today not have the foresight to realize they are going to be paying a lot more for things in digital media when forced buy a movie or album multiple times when their access is blocked or stopped. And that's not even counting the price gouging consumers will face in all digital.
All digital is a scam. Any time a company or government says something is good or better for you - it's not.
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Comparison Shows Difference Between Xbox Series X And Series S
Wait? The Series S is giving an inferior experience compared to Series X, yet again?!? Say it isn't so.
Really hope Microsoft avoids this failed stupid experiment next gen.
Re: Talking Point: How Much Has The Xbox Outage Affected You?
Now just imagine having to deal with this lot more. Avoid the all digital media scam.
Physical media is the ONLY way to go.
Re: Xbox Servers Are Still Down, Preventing Players From Accessing Both Physical And Digital Games
Now just imagine an All Digital world.
Physical media people. It's the ONLY way to go.
Re: Xbox Store Quietly Leaks 'Major' Upgrade For Ghost Recon Wildlands
This is awesome news. Wildlands such an amazing game. Feel lot of people sleeped or missed out on it.
Re: The Validity Of Consoles May Face A 'Real Test' Amid Rising Prices, Says Ex-Xbox Boss
@FraserG "The idea of a future where consoles are replaced by streaming solutions doesn't sound exciting to me whatsoever...."
Exactly. You nailed it.
No one wants to stream low resolution, latency filled experiences, that make gaming the equivalent of watching a movie today on VHS when already own superior 4k transfer.
Plus, the AV quality of physical media is Leaps and bounds superior to all digital. Not even a question or debate.
Re: Dodgy Rumour About Disc Drive For Xbox Project Helix Racks Up 1 Million Views
@Gabrie What rumor about Keighley?
Re: Dodgy Rumour About Disc Drive For Xbox Project Helix Racks Up 1 Million Views
I've said before, and I'll keep saying it, if next Xbox DOES NOT come with an INTERNAL disc dive. I will NOT purchase. Ever. It's that simple. It's not negotiable.
No internal disc drive. No buy.
I've been with Xbox since launch day back in Nov 2001. No internal disc drive is and WILL BE bridge too far and the end for me.
Re: Talking Point: What Was The First Halo Game You Ever Played?
First Halo I ever played?
Halo 1. On launch day. It was incredible moment. Unforgettable experience.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Compulsion Games Shares Open Letter To 'Studios Across The Industry'
@MrStark Reported? For what? Not sharing your views on the topic?
Re: Roundup: The First Reviews Have Arrived For The Mound: Omen Of Cthulhu
"the Xbox Series S, wholly struggles to keep up with the expedition from a visual standpoint."
And no one is, or should be, surprised.
Hopefully Microsoft learns from their mistake known as Series S and never, ever, repeats it.
Re: Multiple Old Xbox Games Are Suddenly Getting Millions Of Views On Social Media
Iron Man 1 and 2 were very enjoyable games when played them back in day.
Really wish remake or remaster or great sequel of Shadowrun shooter game would come out.
I say it all the time. Such very, very, very, very, underrated and underappreciated game.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Online Is Planning A 'Revised Roadmap' Following Xbox Layoffs
The game is still generating good bit revenue last I heard.
Re: These Are The Top 10 Microsoft Rewards 'Feedback Portal' Requests After One Week
"Reward full Xbox completions or rare achievements with MS Rewards points"
I'm 99.999999999% certain I read decades ago (want say Official Xbox Magazine) that was the original purpose of achievements as currency to purchase DLC. Which is the main reason I absolutely despise achievements even to this day.
Just another idea that mutated in face of greed.
Re: Xbox Teases Potentially Major Console Update That Will Be 'Worth The Wait'
I will avoid this cheap brainwashing attempt to screw gamers into dystopia of an over priced digital world.
I'm not a lazy obese loser too big get out my chair to put disc in or switch disc out. I'll not be bothering to swap licenses anymore than Arianna Grande needs a diet.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Assassin's Creed Black Flag In General?
Haven't played this version yet.
But heard that stupid machine is not in it which absolutely has me wanting to play the game.
That is the ONLY reason never got into assassin's creed. For me, I would enjoyed it million times more and actually played the series if machine was out. Feel franchise be best if played as historical period pieces. Not some crazy sci-fi stuff.
Re: Free Play Days: Try These Xbox Games For Free (July 9-12)
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, miss MLB 2k. The pitching controls leaps and bounds best I've ever played. Fielding and batting, I enjoyed as well.
Re: Video Game Retailer Urges Xbox To 'Stand Behind Consumer Choice' By Supporting Physical
Will say it over and over. No internal disc drive? No buy. It's just that simple. It's not negotiable.
No internal disc drive? No buy. Never.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Adds New 'Feedback Portal' Feature Inspired By Xbox Player Voice
Well...looks like Rewards is next thing being closed. The "want hear your suggestions" is so very often the kiss of death.
Re: Xbox CEO Sets Ambitious Goal Of Reaching 'More Than A Billion People Each Day'
I think Xbox have much, much, better success in selling whatever Sharma is smoking or drinking.
It has be some really good product.
Re: Obsidian, id Software & Others Confirmed To Be Affected By Xbox Layoffs
@Millionski Disagree with that for most part. They banked too much on call of duty is major problem.
Will try give my full thoughts tomorrow. On way to bed now. Long day. Was longer weekend. Heat beat me up so much last week
Re: Obsidian, id Software & Others Confirmed To Be Affected By Xbox Layoffs
@Balaam_ Thank you. You understand exactly my wish. People not really take the time or foresight to understand things. That's why we are in situations we are in now.
Re: Obsidian, id Software & Others Confirmed To Be Affected By Xbox Layoffs
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Re: Obsidian, id Software & Others Confirmed To Be Affected By Xbox Layoffs
@NishimaruX I'm not. I'm adding additional insights each time.
It would be easier, if you just said I was right. Lol
Re: Rumour: Xbox Still Evaluating Whether Project Helix Will Support Physical Discs
And by disc drive, I mean INTERNAL disc drive.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Still Evaluating Whether Project Helix Will Support Physical Discs
No disc drive. No buy. It's just that simple. It is not negotiable. No drive, no buy.
It would be the only Xbox I've never purchased and I've been with Xbox waaaay back since launch day in 11/15/01.
Re: Obsidian, id Software & Others Confirmed To Be Affected By Xbox Layoffs
I've been saying it for years, and people insult or make fun of me over it.
Game pass has ruined Xbox. The reality of that failure has come to roost. Unfortunately, it also come to take people's jobs.
It is sad time. A time that people should wake up and acknowledge that.
Game pass is and always was going to be a failure with how it was setup. Game pass should only been indie games at most.
Game pass is an unsustainable business model. It has always been an unsustainable business model.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Cuts And Four Studio Departures
I've been saying it for years, and people insult or make fun of me over it.
Game pass has ruined Xbox. The reality of that failure has come to roost. Unfortunately, it also come to take people's jobs.
It is sad time. A time that people should wake up and acknowledge that.
Game pass is and always was funny to be a failure with how it was setup. Game pass should only been indie games at most.
Re: Three Aims Detailed By Asha Sharma For The 'Most Significant Restructure In Xbox History'
I've been saying it for years, and people insult or make fun of me over it.
Game pass has ruined Xbox. The reality of that failure has come to roost. Unfortunately, it also come to take people's jobs.
It is sad time. A time that people should wake up and acknowledge that.
Re: Report: Bethesda Faces 'Significant Overhaul' At Xbox, Will Focus On Key Franchises
I've been saying it for years, and people insult or make fun of me over it.
Game pass has ruined Xbox. The reality of that failure has come to roost. Unfortunately, it also come to take people's jobs.
It is sad time. A time that people should wake up and acknowledge that.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Are You Getting On With Microsoft Rewards In 2026?
@GoldenPants Smart move. Maximize those points anyway you can.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Are You Getting On With Microsoft Rewards In 2026?
Should we bother keeping track? Ashsa probably closing rewards down after she closes down another studio.
Turn 10 better have next Horizons game out by Oct. She'll close it down for not putting out enough games this year.
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
@PROPS Oh forgot say totally agree on supply chain issues. I call it the orange juice effect.
Florida will get hit hard by hurricanes and say had raise orange juice prices due to weather. Following year, basically no storms. But prices not go down.
Such a racket.
Game prices will do same in all digital world. People not see it. But will be upset soon when it happens.
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
@PROPS Absolutely I'm the same and try to buy on sale too. Really find it helpful to utilize the wishlist feature and visit that on console every Tuesday evening. My thing is just wish people would realize they will be getting shafted soon. Look at physical copy price, then look at digital price. Why is the digital price more? The overhead is just not there. No disc pressing. No shipping. No damaged product cases, etc. It will be very, very, very, very, anti-consumer soon when force $80-$100 standard edition on gamers. And people brought it on themselves. Majority just trying be trendy or hipsters.
And definitely not get me started on that covid shame. Business did not miss a beat lol The whole "covid charge" many charged was ridiculous and incredibly fraudulent and unethical. It's like why am I being charged this? What's it for?
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
@NishimaruX Ok, if wish to over pay for games that's your choice and wish. Myself and many others not want or wish do so.
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
@NishimaruX So you want to pay $80-$100 for standard edition game?
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
@PROPS Your thought process is EXACTLY what they want you to think and hope you not pause to consider any foresight.
What will happen in relative quick order are standard games will be $80-$100.
If you want pay that? Great, hope you enjoy. I want zero parts of that. Physical media NEEDS to stay.
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
I've said it many times and I'll say it again.
Hellx? no disc drive, no buy. It's just that simple. I'll never buy a PS6 now either.
Re: Report: Xbox Disc-To-Digital Feature Will Allow You To Digitise Your Physical Collection
@Vordus Physical media is ALWAYS superior to digital in EVERY way possible.
Lecturering wrong person there my friend.
All digital will be insanely anti-consumer. People have no idea what they are hoping and wishing for all just to be trendy.
Re: Report: Xbox Disc-To-Digital Feature Will Allow You To Digitise Your Physical Collection
I will never do this. It only allows all digital to happen. That is a world full of insane anti-consumer practices.
Re: As PlayStation Announces The End Of Disc-Based Releases, Will Xbox Follow Suit?
If Helix not have disc drive, I will not purchase. The end.
That is non negotiable. No drive, no buy.
Re: As PlayStation Announces The End Of Disc-Based Releases, Will Xbox Follow Suit?
This is straight up a ploy to price gouge consumers for games. Look forward to $80 - $100 standard editions and pretty much no sales. Everyone asking for all digital going to get exactly what asked for. But it's absolutely not what wanted.
Mark my words. This will NOT be good for consumers.
Re: Xbox's State Of Decay 3 Studio Could Be In Trouble Right Now
Developer did not follow the 6 Month Rule. Follow that. Everyone is golden.
Re: State Of Decay 3 Gets 72 Minutes Of Raw Gameplay Footage In New Early Alpha Video
Really looking forward to playing State of Decay 3.
Just wonder what comes first? State of Decay 3 release? Or Undead Labs closure?
Re: Xbox Has Limited Spots For A Free 'Once Human' Open Beta This Week
This game is absolutely in my wheelhouse. Online. Supernatural. Horror. Freaky.
Looking forward! Hope I get in!
Re: 'We Have To Turn This Into A Sustainable Business' - Microsoft CEO Discusses Future Of Xbox
@oopsiezz And that is exactly the very mindset destroying Xbox.
Game Pass cannibalizes sales. Plain and simple. That whole, "I'll just wait for game pass." is disastrous. What if never goes to game pass, or goes to game pass 5 years later. Whatever that game is, it has now lost sales and that very well causes a studio to close.
That's just one example.
Game pass causes reduction in game sales, period.
Now, for the market that really enjoy, 8 bit game boy color quality level, side scrolling, jump over lava pits games, that looks and plays like from late 80s, early 90s? Great. Revamp and rebrand game pass with only those games and call it indie pass. Those gamers can play that for say 5 bucks a month.
But Game Pass needs to go. It's an unsustainable business model.
Re: 'We Have To Turn This Into A Sustainable Business' - Microsoft CEO Discusses Future Of Xbox
First step to sustainability?
Ditch game pass. It's an incredibly unsustainable business model.
Re: "It's Hard To Say" - Xbox Boss Isn't Sure The Activision Blizzard Deal Has Paid Off
Or.....how about when is world of warcraft coming to Xbox? There must be sizeable untapped audience there? I'd play it. But in no way shape or form will I pay subscription for it. That's one main reasons I play Elder Scrolls Online. Buy expansions and never need pay monthly subscription.
But elder scrolls online is running itself in ground with its recent changes. My enthusiasm is really dropping.
Re: 'We'll Start To See Radically Different Business Models' - Xbox Boss Talks Future Of Consoles
@RadioHedgeFund Developers are not being smart about game budgets while making a game.
Biggest example are voice actors. I can do just as good or even better job than these actors today for fraction of what these voice actors are demanding. All they need do is contact me and I'll give them heck of performance at an incredible price.
Re: 'We'll Start To See Radically Different Business Models' - Xbox Boss Talks Future Of Consoles
@Sheppard Good right in theory. But Microsoft wants PC storefronts on Xbox. That customer base is really untapped. Take me for example. I have ZERO interest in PC gaming, like ABSOLUTE zero. No interest in buying $1000 graphics card every 3 months just to play newest game on 30 inch monitor.
So that PC marketplace on Xbox if I purchase games will give Xbox a cut of sale they never had before. It's just revenue decision.
Highly doubt the next Xbox will not have PC marketplace built in day one.