@Bob_Tempura 100% agree. If Microsoft want to put games elsewhere then OK… I guess… but those things aren’t an Xbox. It’s killed the brand. At least push the hardware and say ‘our console is the best place to play, but if you are elsewhere then play our games there too.’
I love having Microsoft studio games on PS5 (and PC) but that’s because I sold my Series X when they went multiplatform.
Just go software and be done with it. Just limping on now imo.
@OldGamer999 I hear you but the campaigns are pretty much a tutorial and tech demo in these games. It’s all about the MP. I’ve got it pre-loaded and can’t wait. That being said I have really enjoyed COD WW2, Cold War and new Black Ops campaigns. BOps campaign was actually better than the MP.
@Ricky-Spanish with respect I don’t think so. Call of Duty skins have become a joke, embarrassing and disrespectful (like Nikki Minaj in World War 2.) Franchise has jumped the shark multiplayer wise. I still like the slightly more realistic aesthetic of the campaigns though. Really weird that campaign and MP are so different.
Amazing game. Any idea on DLC price? I know there is a £35 upgrade path for premium version with DLC and other bits but any idea if DLC will be standalone price?
Playing Bioshock on my Steam Deck this week actually. In no way needs a remake. I believe all the games are 60fps on console too with the trilogy always dirt cheap. Like people say, Infinite was deemed ‘lesser’ when it came out but the game is stunning and more appreciated now. And no I don’t believe Ken Levine was involved as he is making his unofficial Bioshock game called ‘Judas.’
@Jenkinss yeah it’s heading towards the end game. #Just4games was the start. Game Pass surely unsustainable. Giving away £70 AAA games for £10 a month or less stacked. No chance. Too good to be true. Just wish they would announce software only and be done with it.
@Fiendish-Beaver I could be wrong but I suspect it’s a third party PC with an Xbox sticker. Microsoft Gaming is software only going forward. #FullSlate #Just4Games
This game is fantastic. Just finished it on PC. Excellent campaign. I really liked how squad members would throw you medic and ammo packs etc. Seriously recommend the campaign but I’m not sold on the MP. If I’m not mistaken it was Nicki Minaj skins in a WW2 setting. Disrespectful and jarring.
It was OK. Clockwork Revolution looks a must play to me.
COD looks bland and I suspect a poor seller. Looks like they are just recycling the popular ‘Black Ops’ moniker rather than it being a Black Operations type game like the last 2.
Sounds like 2026 could be incredible if they do Gears, Halo and Forza. That will be like the golden era again. Crazy to think they will be on PS5.
@SMJ 100% agree. The companies clearly want to move on from disc but for some reason they are doing this comedy compromise which has led to this farce.
My opinion for what it is worth is that it is time to move on from the waste of discs and boxes. We are now in this awkward era of discs with little to no data on them and endless patches. Physical is an illusion in AAA gaming in 2025. I’m happy to buy and download and play and enjoy and delete until or if I want to play again. Really no drama. That’s just me.
“You own nothing.” I own the experience I had playing and enjoying the game. That’s cool enough. I don’t care that it doesn’t gather dust in my house for 20 years.
Arguably a win-win at this point. Sony dominating console sales and Microsoft clearly now dominating software sales but can’t shift consoles. Console War peace in our time.
@Coletrain CD Keys too pal. I either buy Xbox play anywhere or steam games there or buy the gifts cards at a discount and then buy direct and get reward points on top. Winner.
@OldGamer999 didn’t you buy a PS5 Pro for the best part of a bag of sand? Things are expensive and the companies are not charities. Unfortunately the day of the cheap console has gone. Especially if you want all 3. People want better and better games and frame rates and ray tracing and it costs.
@MasterTanookiChief I think it needs to otherwise I don’t see what if offers compared to PS6. Xbox Series X is a fantastic console which hasn’t sold well so it’s an uphill climb which more and more looks like a software only focus. I’m a big Xbox fan in the UK but XSX is dead here and I now Xbox on PC and PS5. Feels like I’m the new target audience…
I was disappointed when Xbox dropped exclusives and headed full slate. I’m in the UK and felt the Series X was a wonderful console but became neglected so I pulled out for PC and PS5. So I can see why console fans may be disappointed.
Microsoft do seem seem to have this nailed though and clearly the numbers speak for themselves and the buzz around Xbox games on PS5 is nuts. I double dipped in both Forza and Indy. Keep them coming!
@themightyant from a third party publisher point of view it makes some sense (lot of outlay for the IP) but has led to the death of Xbox console. That might have happened anyway. We don’t know. What I do know is that I sold my XSX (I’m in UK) as I knew it was circling the drain and PS5 was a safer bet for my library. From a PS5 point of view, Microsoft gaming is amazing, from a former Xbox console owner point of view, it’s a bit depressing.
Microsoft Gaming is killing it though. Great games on all the platforms in due course.
There is some push-back on PUSH but the numbers speak for themselves… take out the fanboy and ‘no disc, no buy’ nonsense of the gaming ultras, the casual gamers are lapping up the games… SoT, Forza, Indy… winner.
@dskatter do you wholly own games now though? Virtually all games have multiple large patches and updates and the disc more and more is a licence key. I understand people like to collect and feel they own but it’s dying out. Why miss out on good games due to ‘no disc, no buy.’ In a few years you wont have a choice. I’m not saying that is a good thing, I’m saying that will be fact. I’m cool with it. It’s fine. Steam been that way forever. Even if I had tonnes of PS2 discs say, I’d wouldn’t play them. Times change. I want new games. A few quid to ‘own’ a digital game for at least 10 years is hardly a problem. Just my opinion and I respect yours.
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Re: Sarah Bond Insists Hardware Is 'Absolutely Core' To Xbox, Teases Powerful Next-Gen Console
@Sol4ris “it’s just 4 games.”
Re: Valve Announces New Hardware, Including A Steam Machine That'll Compete With Xbox
Wow wow wow. Just need to know more about the price and performance and I’m almost there…
Re: Microsoft's 'This Is An Xbox' Ad Evolves As Holiday Marketing Ramps Up
@Bob_Tempura 100% agree. If Microsoft want to put games elsewhere then OK… I guess… but those things aren’t an Xbox. It’s killed the brand. At least push the hardware and say ‘our console is the best place to play, but if you are elsewhere then play our games there too.’
I love having Microsoft studio games on PS5 (and PC) but that’s because I sold my Series X when they went multiplatform.
Just go software and be done with it. Just limping on now imo.
Re: Microsoft's 'This Is An Xbox' Ad Evolves As Holiday Marketing Ramps Up
@BossBE wow. lol. Made me laugh. Press X to pay respects!
Re: Microsoft's 'This Is An Xbox' Ad Evolves As Holiday Marketing Ramps Up
The ad shows an excited child pull a PS5 out of wrapping paper. This is an Xbox
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Battlefield 6
@OldGamer999 I hear you but the campaigns are pretty much a tutorial and tech demo in these games. It’s all about the MP. I’ve got it pre-loaded and can’t wait.
That being said I have really enjoyed COD WW2, Cold War and new Black Ops campaigns. BOps campaign was actually better than the MP.
Re: Call Of Duty Team Responds To Feedback That They've 'Drifted From What Made COD Unique'
@Ricky-Spanish with respect I don’t think so. Call of Duty skins have become a joke, embarrassing and disrespectful (like Nikki Minaj in World War 2.)
Franchise has jumped the shark multiplayer wise. I still like the slightly more realistic aesthetic of the campaigns though. Really weird that campaign and MP are so different.
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Indiana Jones And The Great Circle To Nintendo Switch 2
Amazing game. Any idea on DLC price? I know there is a £35 upgrade path for premium version with DLC and other bits but any idea if DLC will be standalone price?
Re: Report: BioShock Remake Cancelled As Upcoming Sequel Hits Development Troubles
Playing Bioshock on my Steam Deck this week actually. In no way needs a remake. I believe all the games are 60fps on console too with the trilogy always dirt cheap. Like people say, Infinite was deemed ‘lesser’ when it came out but the game is stunning and more appreciated now.
And no I don’t believe Ken Levine was involved as he is making his unofficial Bioshock game called ‘Judas.’
Re: 'Xbox PC' Gets Renamed Again As Microsoft Tries To Figure Out The Perfect Branding
Xbox [on] PS5.
“Just 4 games.”
Re: Indiana Jones Team Confirms Multiple Games In Development, 'Excited' For Its Future
@Dodoo how so?
Re: Two More Xbox Games Are Being Cancelled, Including Perfect Dark
P45 - this is an Xbox.
Brand is going down the toilet quick.
Re: Xbox Layoffs Begin As Phil Spencer Shares Internal Microsoft Gaming Update
“Microsoft Gaming.” The endgame of Xbox console has begun.
Re: Imminent Xbox Layoffs Could Include Entire Studios, Warns Industry Veteran
@Jenkinss yeah it’s heading towards the end game. #Just4games was the start. Game Pass surely unsustainable. Giving away £70 AAA games for £10 a month or less stacked. No chance. Too good to be true.
Just wish they would announce software only and be done with it.
Re: Microsoft Planning To 'Restructure' Xbox Distribution In Central Europe, Says Report
@Fiendish-Beaver I could be wrong but I suspect it’s a third party PC with an Xbox sticker. Microsoft Gaming is software only going forward. #FullSlate #Just4Games
Re: Opinion: The Best Call Of Duty Of The Xbox One Era Hits Game Pass Later This Month
This game is fantastic. Just finished it on PC. Excellent campaign. I really liked how squad members would throw you medic and ammo packs etc. Seriously recommend the campaign but I’m not sold on the MP. If I’m not mistaken it was Nicki Minaj skins in a WW2 setting. Disrespectful and jarring.
Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 7 Won't Go Super-Duper Futuristic, Confirms Activision
I have zero interest in this.
Re: Xbox Has Started Giving Out Free Gears Of War: Reloaded Codes To 'Ultimate Edition' Owners
Just got my code for Xbox PC. Nice touch so thanks Xbox! 😁
Re: MindsEye Releases To Zero Reviews, But Here's What The Players Are Saying
@stefan771 what reviews though??? Biggest red flag since the Soviet Union.
Re: MindsEye Releases To Zero Reviews, But Here's What The Players Are Saying
I will give my ‘minds eye’ here: PR stunt.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Games Showcase 2025 Was Just OK, But Next Year Should Be Amazing
It was OK. Clockwork Revolution looks a must play to me.
COD looks bland and I suspect a poor seller. Looks like they are just recycling the popular ‘Black Ops’ moniker rather than it being a Black Operations type game like the last 2.
Sounds like 2026 could be incredible if they do Gears, Halo and Forza. That will be like the golden era again. Crazy to think they will be on PS5.
Re: Hitman Dev Reveals Name Of James Bond Game, Full Reveal Set For This Week
Licenced to thrill. Get in!
Re: Xbox Has Reportedly 'Sidelined' Plans For A 2027 First-Party Handheld
@Millionski Series X is a really good console as I’ve said before.
I think third party licenced Xbox PC type consoles are the future but who knows.
What I do know is that Microsoft are producing a conveyor belt of quality games now. Looking forward to the showcase
Re: Xbox Building A Handheld 'Makes No Sense', Says Former Blizzard Boss
Feels like it’s going all software.
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Starfield Is Moving To PS5, Should Be Announced This Year
@Qu1n0n3z why? “It’s just 4 games.”
Re: Hellblade 2 Announced For PS5 Alongside 'Enhanced' Edition On Xbox
@Sindayl it’s just 4 games.
Re: Xbox Reportedly Been 'In Talks' Over Putting Steam On Next Console
Does anyone miss the days when Xbox was an actual, you know, Xbox? I guess not enough as not enough people bought it
Feels like a software and third party licensing type pivot to me. The plus side is that I can play great Xbox games on PS5 (if a bit weird.)
Re: Talking Point: Do You Have High Expectations For The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
They’ve been pretty decent the last few…
Microsoft have an awful lot of good games to show these days.
Re: Despite Xbox's Multiplatform Push, Activision Abandons COD Warzone Mobile
Everything is… not an Xbox?
Re: 'Huge' Number Of People Cancelling DOOM Pre-Orders Over 'Botched Physical Release'
Disc: The Dark Ages.
Have that for free! 😂
Re: 'Huge' Number Of People Cancelling DOOM Pre-Orders Over 'Botched Physical Release'
@SMJ 100% agree. The companies clearly want to move on from disc but for some reason they are doing this comedy compromise which has led to this farce.
Re: 'Huge' Number Of People Cancelling DOOM Pre-Orders Over 'Botched Physical Release'
My opinion for what it is worth is that it is time to move on from the waste of discs and boxes. We are now in this awkward era of discs with little to no data on them and endless patches. Physical is an illusion in AAA gaming in 2025. I’m happy to buy and download and play and enjoy and delete until or if I want to play again. Really no drama. That’s just me.
“You own nothing.” I own the experience I had playing and enjoying the game. That’s cool enough. I don’t care that it doesn’t gather dust in my house for 20 years.
Let’s just enjoy the games.
Re: New Sales Data Highlights How Xbox Is 'Dominating' PS5 Right Now
“Xbox has no games!” - Dominating the software market with wonderful games every month.
“It’s just 4 games” - . . .
Re: New Sales Data Highlights How Xbox Is 'Dominating' PS5 Right Now
Arguably a win-win at this point. Sony dominating console sales and Microsoft clearly now dominating software sales but can’t shift consoles. Console War peace in our time.
Re: Xbox Developer Shares Insight Into Why Physical Releases Are 'Complex'
@Coletrain yes! 100% legit been using for years and years. Eneba and ShopTo are fine too. This forum is a good place to share!
Re: Xbox Developer Shares Insight Into Why Physical Releases Are 'Complex'
@Coletrain CD Keys too pal. I either buy Xbox play anywhere or steam games there or buy the gifts cards at a discount and then buy direct and get reward points on top. Winner.
Re: Xbox Developer Shares Insight Into Why Physical Releases Are 'Complex'
@Millionski I’m with you. Next gen is an optional and extra (£££) legacy drive but the push is digital. Gen after… it’s gone.
Re: Xbox Handheld Gets Leaked, First Photos And Details Revealed
@PlatinumMikey if the Xbox controller had the dual sense haptics that would be perfect for me. I really like the Xbox controller on PC.
Re: Xbox Handheld Gets Leaked, First Photos And Details Revealed
@OldGamer999 didn’t you buy a PS5 Pro for the best part of a bag of sand?
Things are expensive and the companies are not charities.
Unfortunately the day of the cheap console has gone. Especially if you want all 3.
People want better and better games and frame rates and ray tracing and it costs.
Re: Xbox Handheld Gets Leaked, First Photos And Details Revealed
@OldGamer999 to be fair the whole point, literally, is to ‘switch’ between TV and hand held.
Re: Reaction: Gears Of War: Reloaded Makes Perfect Sense For Microsoft, But Not For Xbox Fans
@MasterTanookiChief I think it needs to otherwise I don’t see what if offers compared to PS6.
Xbox Series X is a fantastic console which hasn’t sold well so it’s an uphill climb which more and more looks like a software only focus.
I’m a big Xbox fan in the UK but XSX is dead here and I now Xbox on PC and PS5. Feels like I’m the new target audience…
Re: Reaction: Gears Of War: Reloaded Makes Perfect Sense For Microsoft, But Not For Xbox Fans
Remember “it’s just 4 games.”
In all seriousness it’s getting to the point of why would anyone buy the current or next Xbox?
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
@abe_hikura ‘death spiral’ is the best way of describing this. Insane move for a non-selling console.
Series Ex
Re: Talking Point: With Forza Horizon 5 Now On PS5, Do You Expect To See Horizon 6 Anytime Soon?
Forza Horizon (202) 6
Re: Microsoft CEO Announces 'Top Publisher' Milestone For Xbox Games On PS5
@andrewsqual are you OK?
Re: Xbox Achieves Record-Breaking Results In Latest Earnings Report
I was disappointed when Xbox dropped exclusives and headed full slate. I’m in the UK and felt the Series X was a wonderful console but became neglected so I pulled out for PC and PS5. So I can see why console fans may be disappointed.
Microsoft do seem seem to have this nailed though and clearly the numbers speak for themselves and the buzz around Xbox games on PS5 is nuts. I double dipped in both Forza and Indy. Keep them coming!
Re: Microsoft CEO Announces 'Top Publisher' Milestone For Xbox Games On PS5
Halo Infinite would get a new life and to be honest I feel it was a bit underrated on Series XS.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@themightyant from a third party publisher point of view it makes some sense (lot of outlay for the IP) but has led to the death of Xbox console. That might have happened anyway. We don’t know. What I do know is that I sold my XSX (I’m in UK) as I knew it was circling the drain and PS5 was a safer bet for my library. From a PS5 point of view, Microsoft gaming is amazing, from a former Xbox console owner point of view, it’s a bit depressing.
Microsoft Gaming is killing it though. Great games on all the platforms in due course.
There is some push-back on PUSH but the numbers speak for themselves… take out the fanboy and ‘no disc, no buy’ nonsense of the gaming ultras, the casual gamers are lapping up the games… SoT, Forza, Indy… winner.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@dskatter do you wholly own games now though? Virtually all games have multiple large patches and updates and the disc more and more is a licence key.
I understand people like to collect and feel they own but it’s dying out.
Why miss out on good games due to ‘no disc, no buy.’ In a few years you wont have a choice. I’m not saying that is a good thing, I’m saying that will be fact. I’m cool with it. It’s fine. Steam been that way forever.
Even if I had tonnes of PS2 discs say, I’d wouldn’t play them. Times change. I want new games. A few quid to ‘own’ a digital game for at least 10 years is hardly a problem. Just my opinion and I respect yours.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@HonestHick bit simplistic. I’m a PC gamer with a PS5.