@Fiendish-Beaver 100%. Game Pass is great value.. too great a value for the consumer… I’ve often wondered if offering a ‘core’ experience of a select games and maybe bigger releases 6-12 months later would’ve been a good blend of GP rentals and sales. Offering the volume of AAA day 1 for no extra cost appears insane.
To be fair, I think the article is just highlighting the fact it runs better on Pro and why. I don’t think it’s meant to be a Console War propaganda piece. Just facts for enthusiasts who are interested.
@Scrubchub the ‘no disc, no buy’ comments on every thread on every game at the moment is tedious I agree. I’m digital only now and don’t think I’m an idiot. I’ve never been a collector though. I wouldn’t not play a game though just because it only came in one format or the other.
I’ve only just got F124 cheap so wouldn’t bother with 25 until 26 is nearly out.
Sports games get stale every year. Surely in the digital age it would make sense to simply update the same game with a patch for a small fee? They want your £70 though for the same game…
@Fiendish-Beaver I think Halo Infinite and Motorsport could really do with thr player boost by going to PS5. It’s all going Day 1 going forward isn’t it.
How are the graphics/optimisation on Series X? I’ve got it on GP PC and whilst my PC is decent, I find it a bit patchy tbh. Not as bad as Forza Motorsport……….. I’m thinking of buying on PS5. Cheers in advance.
@RadioHedgeFund the sensible thing to do at this point is for MS to pull out of hardware and sell, sell, sell on third party hardware. It’s a gold mine of IP.
Despite the warnings nearly 2 years’ ago, it’s insane to see Forza Horizon 5 on my wish list on PS Store.
I used to have a Series X and sold it to concentrate on PS and PC when it became clear they were pulling out/going full slate. It was a shame but in the UK very few people have Xbox and I didn’t want to pump more money into a dying console.
I have mixed feelings about the whole thing… makes financial sense for MS to go full slate and share all the great games they have and make lots of money. I can however see that long term Xbox fans feel mugged off.
I’ve FH5 on Xbox PC and will double dip on PS5.
I think the future of Microsoft Gaming is secure but Xbox hardware is gone. I think that is OK.
@antonioacm I’m in the UK, you? Xbox doesn’t really advertise here… I felt like when the generation started there were adverts for the Series S and X. Since the merger it’s non existent. I warned against the merger and people mocked the CMA but now who is laughing? That merger killed Xbox and created Microsoft Gaming imo. Console has massively been left behind imo. If they go full slate what is the point of having the console? Just buy PlayStation and/or game on PC with free online play and cloud saves. Are they really going to build another console? Why? To sell how many? Xbox gave up on me as a console customer so I gave up on them and sold my X.
@antonioacm fair points. They are literally leaving Xbox console behind though. I was that consumer. They left me behind. They said you don’t need an Xbox to Xbox so I didn’t.
It’s not fake news. Satya has literally just posted they are going full slate and the ads tell you a TV is an Xbox now.
Do I think it’s a good move? Like I posted earlier, yes considering the corner they’ve put themselves in. Are traditional Xbox fans being mugged off? Hell yes.
@Kilamanjaro 100%. Series X has been a stunner. I only pulled out as I’m in the UK and I wasn’t convinced of the ongoing commitment. I’ve a PS5 for 3rd party games and moved to PC so play ‘Xbox’ there. I’m happy.
I think, for me, playing Xbox/Microsoft on PC with a PlayStation or Switch is a sweet spot. I can see why Xbox console owners are upset… you’ve been left behind/are poor relation in the new strategy…
Long term this is the right move for Microsoft as they were never going to catch up with Sony and Nintendo selling consoles. Did they try enough or did they lose focus and start chasing the merger??? I don’t know.
The Series X is gorgeous and deserved more.
Either way, I will be a Microsoft fan via PC going forward.
@Cakefish OK, I see. I can play the first party I want/own on the Xbox app like Forza, Gears, etc. But yes, certain games from my old Series X library don’t play. They are doing more and more titles ‘play anywhere’ though so it’s a long-game. Being in the UK, and gaming on PC too, selling the Series X and just using the Xbox app, PS5 and Steam makes more sense to me. But I see your point.
Weird. I’ve had this version for nearly 9 months I think… must’ve signed up to the insider programme by accident at some point? Always been happy with it and didn’t realise people had a different one! I’m coming around to the play anywhere thing tbh. I say that from a PC centric view though. Xbox Console in the UK feels dead unfortunately. Fantastic Series X hardware but zero advertising and momentum. Truth is that PlayStation is too entrenched.
@elpardo1984 I’ve got it running perfectly on High settings at 40fps. 100% worth a double dip for the Deck. I thought I’d regret not getting it for Steam too.
@gollumb82 I’ve pulled the trigger. Apparently will run on the Deck too. Microsoft offered me FH4 Ultimatefor £9 or something a few months ago so like £25 total spend on 2 platforms for a masterpiece.
Sad news. Stunning game. Best Forza ever imo. I’ve got the deluxe on Xbox Play Anywhere but it’s £17 on Steam? Worth a double dip as a back up or no point?
@BAMozzy you write your points well. Is Xbox just becoming too complex for the average punter though? As you say… Tiers, devices, multiple consoles, sticks, etc.
@BAMozzy I don’t know anyone who would casually ‘cloud’ game. For most people that isn’t a thing. Just plugging in say a PS4 is a thing.
Xbox are right to try different things but it does seem like the console part of the business is the ashamed of cousin. Really bizarre. No advertising for console but lots of advertising for ‘you don’t need an Xbox to play Xbox.’
Shame because Series X and the controllers are very good. Tell people!
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Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Titntin I warned against the ABK acquisition on this actual site but was booed down.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Fiendish-Beaver 100%. Game Pass is great value.. too great a value for the consumer…
I’ve often wondered if offering a ‘core’ experience of a select games and maybe bigger releases 6-12 months later would’ve been a good blend of GP rentals and sales.
Offering the volume of AAA day 1 for no extra cost appears insane.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Gets 'Big Visual Boost' On PS5 Pro, Says Tech Review
To be fair, I think the article is just highlighting the fact it runs better on Pro and why. I don’t think it’s meant to be a Console War propaganda piece. Just facts for enthusiasts who are interested.
Re: Bethesda Officially Announces Oblivion Remastered, Full Reveal Coming Tomorrow
@Scrubchub the ‘no disc, no buy’ comments on every thread on every game at the moment is tedious I agree.
I’m digital only now and don’t think I’m an idiot. I’ve never been a collector though. I wouldn’t not play a game though just because it only came in one format or the other.
Re: Free Play Days: Try These Xbox Games For Free (April 17-20)
@Kaloudz I forgot it was a thing and am not even interested for free.
Sea of Thieves is good though.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Comparison Showcases Xbox Series X Vs. PS5 Pro
This is more PushSquare news than PXB?
Re: Bungie's 'Marathon' Gets September Release Date For Xbox, Closed Alpha This Month
Sorry to say it looks terrible. Arguably worse than Concord.
Re: F1 25 Releases In May 2025, No Xbox One Version For The First Time
I like the naff story on GRID. Good racer.
I’ve only just got F124 cheap so wouldn’t bother with 25 until 26 is nearly out.
Sports games get stale every year. Surely in the digital age it would make sense to simply update the same game with a patch for a small fee? They want your £70 though for the same game…
Re: Xbox Joins New Gaming Accessibility Initiative As Founding Member
This is really nice to hear.
Re: Xbox UK Is Offering A Decent Discount On Refurbished Series X Consoles This Week
You will be able to pick up the one I sold then
Re: Hands On: Assassin's Creed Shadows Feels Like A Timely Refresh For The Series
Sounds good thus far.
Re: New Xbox Insider Update Aims To Help 'Free Up' Storage Space
@Kramlar thank you! It’s genuinely tongue in cheek and glad it’s taken that way! 😂
Re: New Xbox Insider Update Aims To Help 'Free Up' Storage Space
Store your Xbox games on your PlayStation 😂
Re: Xbox Fans In The UK Can Now Order Games & Consoles From Just Eat
Or just download from the store with a click…
Re: Indiana Jones Set To Release For PS5 In April After Four Months Of Xbox Exclusivity
@Fiendish-Beaver I think Halo Infinite and Motorsport could really do with thr player boost by going to PS5. It’s all going Day 1 going forward isn’t it.
Re: Indiana Jones Set To Release For PS5 In April After Four Months Of Xbox Exclusivity
How are the graphics/optimisation on Series X? I’ve got it on GP PC and whilst my PC is decent, I find it a bit patchy tbh. Not as bad as Forza Motorsport………..
I’m thinking of buying on PS5. Cheers in advance.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
@nomither6 ah the classic aggressive internet reply for no reason.
It’s just my opinion and don’t message me again pal.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
Not every game needs online multiplayer shoe-horned in.
Some sort of local co-op would be good.
Re: Xbox & Activision Seemingly Set To Release New Tony Hawk Remaster
@themightyant this.
Re: Two More Xbox First-Party Games Are Moving To PS5 In 2025
@jFug 100%
I would like to see Halo: Infinite next.. That game could do with a breath of new life tbh. Should sell well and populate the servers.
Re: Two More Xbox First-Party Games Are Moving To PS5 In 2025
Age of Full Slate
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
@RadioHedgeFund the sensible thing to do at this point is for MS to pull out of hardware and sell, sell, sell on third party hardware. It’s a gold mine of IP.
Despite the warnings nearly 2 years’ ago, it’s insane to see Forza Horizon 5 on my wish list on PS Store.
I used to have a Series X and sold it to concentrate on PS and PC when it became clear they were pulling out/going full slate. It was a shame but in the UK very few people have Xbox and I didn’t want to pump more money into a dying console.
I have mixed feelings about the whole thing… makes financial sense for MS to go full slate and share all the great games they have and make lots of money. I can however see that long term Xbox fans feel mugged off.
I’ve FH5 on Xbox PC and will double dip on PS5.
I think the future of Microsoft Gaming is secure but Xbox hardware is gone. I think that is OK.
Just my views.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
Why isn’t Phil and the people in charge of Xbox delivering this video?
… Oh yeah.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@cburg fans you mean? Consumers. Folk who pay hard earned money. The CEO is the issue here.
Gaming is a business yes, but it’s a passion, an art form. It’s for the players.
Re: Ex-Bethesda Dev 'Surprised' At The Amount Of Load Screens In Starfield
‘Number’ of load screens.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@Ryu_Niiyama do you not play/like the Xbox app on PC? I think it’s alright. I play native Xbox/MS games there.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@Phil-Spencer-Gate ‘immature fanbase.’ Wow.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@OldGamer999 they are making nuthin’. Nothing but a load of cash as a publisher.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@antonioacm I’m in the UK, you? Xbox doesn’t really advertise here…
I felt like when the generation started there were adverts for the Series S and X. Since the merger it’s non existent. I warned against the merger and people mocked the CMA but now who is laughing? That merger killed Xbox and created Microsoft Gaming imo.
Console has massively been left behind imo. If they go full slate what is the point of having the console? Just buy PlayStation and/or game on PC with free online play and cloud saves.
Are they really going to build another console? Why? To sell how many?
Xbox gave up on me as a console customer so I gave up on them and sold my X.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@antonioacm fair points. They are literally leaving Xbox console behind though. I was that consumer. They left me behind. They said you don’t need an Xbox to Xbox so I didn’t.
It’s not fake news. Satya has literally just posted they are going full slate and the ads tell you a TV is an Xbox now.
Do I think it’s a good move? Like I posted earlier, yes considering the corner they’ve put themselves in. Are traditional Xbox fans being mugged off? Hell yes.
I respect your opinions though.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@Kilamanjaro 100%. Series X has been a stunner. I only pulled out as I’m in the UK and I wasn’t convinced of the ongoing commitment. I’ve a PS5 for 3rd party games and moved to PC so play ‘Xbox’ there. I’m happy.
I think, for me, playing Xbox/Microsoft on PC with a PlayStation or Switch is a sweet spot. I can see why Xbox console owners are upset… you’ve been left behind/are poor relation in the new strategy…
Long term this is the right move for Microsoft as they were never going to catch up with Sony and Nintendo selling consoles. Did they try enough or did they lose focus and start chasing the merger??? I don’t know.
The Series X is gorgeous and deserved more.
Either way, I will be a Microsoft fan via PC going forward.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
Finally it’s ’full slate.’ I’m glad they are being honest about it now.
Re: Xbox's PC App Brings Refreshed Home Experience To All Users
@Cakefish OK, I see. I can play the first party I want/own on the Xbox app like Forza, Gears, etc. But yes, certain games from my old Series X library don’t play. They are doing more and more titles ‘play anywhere’ though so it’s a long-game.
Being in the UK, and gaming on PC too, selling the Series X and just using the Xbox app, PS5 and Steam makes more sense to me.
But I see your point.
Re: Xbox's PC App Brings Refreshed Home Experience To All Users
@Cakefish what do you mean?
Re: Xbox's PC App Brings Refreshed Home Experience To All Users
Weird. I’ve had this version for nearly 9 months I think… must’ve signed up to the insider programme by accident at some point? Always been happy with it and didn’t realise people had a different one!
I’m coming around to the play anywhere thing tbh. I say that from a PC centric view though. Xbox Console in the UK feels dead unfortunately. Fantastic Series X hardware but zero advertising and momentum. Truth is that PlayStation is too entrenched.
Re: PSA: Xbox's Forza Horizon 4 Will Be Delisted In Less Than One Week
@elpardo1984 I’ve got it running perfectly on High settings at 40fps. 100% worth a double dip for the Deck. I thought I’d regret not getting it for Steam too.
Re: PSA: Xbox's Forza Horizon 4 Will Be Delisted In Less Than One Week
@gollumb82 I’ve pulled the trigger. Apparently will run on the Deck too. Microsoft offered me FH4 Ultimatefor £9 or something a few months ago so like £25 total spend on 2 platforms for a masterpiece.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Enjoying Indiana Jones And The Great Circle So Far?
Absolute winner. Incredible game thus far on Xbox Play Anywhere (PC.)
Re: PSA: Xbox's Forza Horizon 4 Will Be Delisted In Less Than One Week
Sad news. Stunning game. Best Forza ever imo. I’ve got the deluxe on Xbox Play Anywhere but it’s £17 on Steam? Worth a double dip as a back up or no point?
Re: Xbox Adds Two Surprise Titles To This Month's Game Pass Lineup
@Markatron84 no it is 1896.
Re: Video: Indiana Jones Comparison Shows Difference Between Xbox Series X And S Versions
@Ricky-Spanish PlayStation did the opposite with £825 all in! Joke.
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
Wow wasn’t expecting this. This website has been building it up and up and now it’s “You’ve chosen… poorly!”
I really hope it isn’t this bad. Will find out soon.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sells Staggering Amount Of Copies Across All Platforms Including Xbox
‘Number’ of copies.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@swedetrap what’s the game like though?
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@swedetrap needing to use a third party controller to play an Xbox exclusive game? ‘That’s an Xbox.’ 😂
Re: Flight Simulator 2024 Struggles To Take Off As Servers Buckle On Launch Day
@luke88 that’s an Xbox 😂
Re: Flight Simulator 2024 Struggles To Take Off As Servers Buckle On Launch Day
Broken server: THIS IS AN XBOX
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
@BAMozzy you write your points well. Is Xbox just becoming too complex for the average punter though? As you say… Tiers, devices, multiple consoles, sticks, etc.
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
@BAMozzy I don’t know anyone who would casually ‘cloud’ game. For most people that isn’t a thing. Just plugging in say a PS4 is a thing.
Xbox are right to try different things but it does seem like the console part of the business is the ashamed of cousin. Really bizarre. No advertising for console but lots of advertising for ‘you don’t need an Xbox to play Xbox.’
Shame because Series X and the controllers are very good. Tell people!
Re: Xbox PC App Criticised For 'Slow Downloads' Following Black Ops 6 Update
The Xbox App is an Xbox.