@__jamiie I was thinking exactly the same. MS clearly ashamed of the console though; hidden away from visitors at the front door in just enough shadow to show they are still alive.
@OldGamer999 are you looking to off-load the X to fund it? Magpie gave me a decent price. I was slightly sad to say good bye and sometimes when a relationship ends and you go your separate ways, you are tempted to look back. I didn’t.
Have you considered a Steam Deck to have a taste of the Master Race?
I could see MS doing the handheld but again there are so many handhelds already licenced with Xbox so who knows. Maybe a hybrid.
As long as Xbox exists as a publisher or via a PC app I’m happy personally. Still adore Forza, Age of Empires and more.
@OldGamer999 do you think Game Pass, in hindsight, should be smaller in scope? A select number of smaller games, occasional AAA banger and sell the rest for full price? Can’t help think they’ve backed themselves into a corner with it.
@Fenbops I think you are right. They need to get on with it and call it Microsoft Gaming. I think it’s a sensible, different offering from PlayStation and Nintendo. No point having a PS5 clone.
I fear for Sony more than Microsoft. Microsoft can and will exist in the gaming space when Xbox is done. The money is in the digital games and subs. Sony need the console but this gen has been awful and they have treated the customers badly. PS5 No at £825. No chance.
OK, maybe not that sensitive actually 😂 “You don’t need an Xbox to play Xbox.” And I didn’t. Makes no sense for Microsoft to invest millions in a new console any longer. To be honest, the Xbox app licenced onto HP/Dell/Lenovo hybrid type PC for under the tele makes more sense. For those in America and beyond; ‘tele’ is television.
@OldGamer999 I already have pal. The hardware side is done and all in all that may not be a bad thing for some people. I play Xbox on PC and am happier there. I have a PS5 too and in the UK it’s the obvious main. At some point Microsoft will work out a way to pull the plug on the console business and communicate that to people more clearly. They are communicating that now but being sensitive with it.
To be fair, since I sold my Series X (I’m in the UK) and play PS5 and PC, Xbox PC is the most fun I’ve had with Xbox. As a console player I wasn’t happy with Microsoft’s strategy but as a PC player I am. I think Xbox will be OK as a brand but not sure about console. They can’t compete with Sony and Nintendo and have given up. It makes sense then to push ‘gaming anywhere.’ Xbox console outside of USA seems to have died though. Go #fullslate
@OldGamer999 I tapped out of the X this year. Too much drama for me with few believable guarantees that Xbox will stay in the UK console market. I’ve just got into PC gaming and have bought the Xbox games I want on the app there. I feel I’ve the best of all worlds with PS5 as my console and Xbox/Steam on PC. Xbox as console has become irrelevant to me in the UK and they look to be going ‘full slate.’ Maybe I’m the sort of customer they want. I don’t think they care about console sales so I don’t know how long they will keep it going? Plug in PC type job makes more sense? Maybe even licence to a third party PC manufacturer? It’s a shame. Series X was awesome but never was backed and the UK is ‘Station country. MS spent so much effort on that merger. Killed momentum and killed the gen. I did warn people.
@Fiendish-Beaver mate I’m was in the position of being a lifelong PS guy who has just got into PC gaming. I bought a Series X (having dabbled a little with the 360 back in the day) this gen and had a good time. Then finally bought a PS5. I enjoyed Xbox but I’m in the UK and it’s dead here. No advertising. After Xbox started porting their games and the future in Europe seemed bleak I found myself not wanting to spend any more money on 3rd party games and fully pulled out. I’ve got GP on PC until next year. For me, Xbox massively changed after the huge merger. I said people may regret it and everyone laughed at the CMA blah blah. Best thing all round is that Microsoft Gaming goes full slate.
@mac_da_man and maybe this is exactly the strategy now. Likes of you and I will play this on GP (PC/Series S) and then likely buy on PS5. Keeps GP customers happy enough and then cash in on full PS5 sales etc. It’s logical from a financial stsndpoint. I personally don’t see how GP is sustainable with day 1 AAA games without sub rises and or more customers but that’s a debate for another time countless threads ago…
@InterceptorAlpha I agree. In terms of console numbers, Xbox aren’t a competition for Sony, but Sony have been poor this gen so without any competition it’s horrific to think what Sony might do… Sony sell the consoles and Microsoft (imo) are starting to make the best games. Pretty good partnership.
In all seriousness I think this game looks amazing. I like the first person too. Can’t wait to be completely honest. It’s Indy, everyone should get to play this.
@MjJmediablogger I can see both sides. It’s a kick in the teeth to loyal customers but ultimately Xbox won’t win the console war/be viable in 3rd place. They’ve such a huge catalogue of IP why not sell it? I’d love FH5 on PS5. But it comes at a cost… why buy an Xbox at all? I think that’s their strategy to move out of hardware and they know how to make money so they must know.
One positive spin on all this is that there are fantastic Xbox games such as Forza Horizon, Gears, Halo, Flight Sim, Age of Empires and more that would make so much money for Microsoft on PS. Phil said they can’t win any console war (have they tried?) so I say port everything at this point. PS gamers are in for a real treat with fantastic games. I know it’s a kick in the teeth to long time Xbox fans but it’s reality and may secure the brand’s future if you know what I mean? Being a massive publisher with some sort of small console platform footprint mixed with PC and phone etc seems viable to me in the circs.
@TheSimulator I guess they’ve gone all in on big money franchises now like Call of Duty. I understand that as they need to make zillions back. What seemed disingenuous though was when someone at Xbox I think said that Hi Fi was a Game Pass gem or something? And then Booty coldly pulled the trigger. Call of Booty style (we doing that?) I guess Microsoft just doesn’t have the time for this type of game with little returns? Crazy it was an Xbox exclusive too and well thought of. On the plus side it’s such a nice story that the studio is back open as many people seemed upset that it closed and Hi Fi died with jobs lost. I’ve actually bought the game today on the Deck for £6!
@GotRedOnMe73 it is fantastic so enjoy. It’s absolutely nothing like GTA. At all. Best on PC to be honest as 30fps sucks on console. Real shame. Fantastic game though. Good acting and characters and gorgeous cars and locales.
@xboxjapanfan not sure what you mean? Xbox owned the studio and closed it. I’m glad to see these people will have jobs again. Keep meaning to pull the trigger on Hi Fi Rush on Steam Deck for £6.
@OldGamer999 don’t say that on Push… great offence will be taken by the PlasticStation elite. 😂
I don’t mind some remakes such as the excellent RE series especially 4 but everything is cross gen, remasters and annual sports games. Hardly a great advert to buy a 30 teraflop Pro.
What? Price increase in a place where they don’t sell? The Series XS is just a black & white silent comedy now. No one has seen Phil. Got to be on the way out.
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Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
At this point Sony could just release a poster of a PS5 with sales numbers and a slogan of THIS ISN’T AN XBOX.
Re: Microsoft Is Now Advertising Pretty Much Every Gaming Device As An Xbox
@__jamiie I was thinking exactly the same. MS clearly ashamed of the console though; hidden away from visitors at the front door in just enough shadow to show they are still alive.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Memory Of The Xbox Series X|S Generation So Far?
Forza Horizon 4. What a game.
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
@OldGamer999 are you looking to off-load the X to fund it? Magpie gave me a decent price. I was slightly sad to say good bye and sometimes when a relationship ends and you go your separate ways, you are tempted to look back. I didn’t.
Have you considered a Steam Deck to have a taste of the Master Race?
I could see MS doing the handheld but again there are so many handhelds already licenced with Xbox so who knows. Maybe a hybrid.
As long as Xbox exists as a publisher or via a PC app I’m happy personally. Still adore Forza, Age of Empires and more.
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
@OldGamer999 let me know an honest opinion of what it is like? £825 seems a Halloween horror on par with the Reeves budget 😂🎃
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
@OldGamer999 do you think Game Pass, in hindsight, should be smaller in scope? A select number of smaller games, occasional AAA banger and sell the rest for full price? Can’t help think they’ve backed themselves into a corner with it.
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
@Fenbops I think you are right. They need to get on with it and call it Microsoft Gaming. I think it’s a sensible, different offering from PlayStation and Nintendo. No point having a PS5 clone.
I fear for Sony more than Microsoft. Microsoft can and will exist in the gaming space when Xbox is done. The money is in the digital games and subs.
Sony need the console but this gen has been awful and they have treated the customers badly. PS5 No at £825. No chance.
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
OK, maybe not that sensitive actually 😂 “You don’t need an Xbox to play Xbox.” And I didn’t.
Makes no sense for Microsoft to invest millions in a new console any longer.
To be honest, the Xbox app licenced onto HP/Dell/Lenovo hybrid type PC for under the tele makes more sense.
For those in America and beyond; ‘tele’ is television.
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
@OldGamer999 I already have pal. The hardware side is done and all in all that may not be a bad thing for some people. I play Xbox on PC and am happier there. I have a PS5 too and in the UK it’s the obvious main.
At some point Microsoft will work out a way to pull the plug on the console business and communicate that to people more clearly. They are communicating that now but being sensitive with it.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Will Run At 60FPS On Both Xbox Series X And S
Cannot wait. Looks amazing. Will get on PC day 1.
Re: Microsoft CEO Gaming Division Update: 'We Continue To Extend Our Content To New Platforms'
To be fair, since I sold my Series X (I’m in the UK) and play PS5 and PC, Xbox PC is the most fun I’ve had with Xbox. As a console player I wasn’t happy with Microsoft’s strategy but as a PC player I am.
I think Xbox will be OK as a brand but not sure about console. They can’t compete with Sony and Nintendo and have given up. It makes sense then to push ‘gaming anywhere.’
Xbox console outside of USA seems to have died though.
Go #fullslate
Re: Halo Infinite Is Getting Third-Person Mode Later This Year
Me and my mate were looking to play Halo Infinite online but we couldn’t find a third person. This news is most welcome!
😂
Re: Review: Starfield Shattered Space (Xbox) - Bethesda Fumbles A Big Chance To Reignite Starfield's Thrusters
Nah-field. Shame this game was such a disappointment day 1.
Re: Xbox Provides 'Progress Update' On Its Carbon Reduction Goals
Not shipping consoles helps 😉
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales Estimated At Under Half Of PS5 In New Report
@OldGamer999 I tapped out of the X this year. Too much drama for me with few believable guarantees that Xbox will stay in the UK console market.
I’ve just got into PC gaming and have bought the Xbox games I want on the app there.
I feel I’ve the best of all worlds with PS5 as my console and Xbox/Steam on PC.
Xbox as console has become irrelevant to me in the UK and they look to be going ‘full slate.’ Maybe I’m the sort of customer they want. I don’t think they care about console sales so I don’t know how long they will keep it going? Plug in PC type job makes more sense? Maybe even licence to a third party PC manufacturer?
It’s a shame. Series X was awesome but never was backed and the UK is ‘Station country.
MS spent so much effort on that merger. Killed momentum and killed the gen. I did warn people.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Socials Updated For 25th Anniversary
@JayJ I agree.
Probably be some mobile GAAS garbage though…
Re: Phil Spencer Talks About Two Activision Games That Xbox Missed Out On Signing
@Divide_and_Wander Series S would so have an ‘air guitar’ version at 30fps!
Re: Stalker 2 Hits The Headlines For Apparently Running At '25FPS' On Xbox Series S
Context is… it’s 25 frames per second in 2024…
Re: Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown Lays Out Year 1 Roadmap For Xbox
Looks like Forza Horizon… cool
Re: Obsidian Confirms That Avowed Runs At 30FPS On Xbox Series X|S
Former BFF Phil: “we’re a business.”
And people here are your customers. It’s not unreasonable to expect finished games, exclusives, 60fps and general reasons to care.
Re: Obsidian Confirms That Avowed Runs At 30FPS On Xbox Series X|S
Obsidian presents ‘Un-Wowed.’
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Is Playable Three Days Early With Xbox Game Pass Upgrade
@BacklogBrad 4 the players!!!
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Is Playable Three Days Early With Xbox Game Pass Upgrade
£35 for an extra 3 days’ rent. 😹
Re: Phil Spencer On Game Exclusivity: 'We Have To Anticipate There's Going To Be More Change'
@Fiendish-Beaver mate I’m was in the position of being a lifelong PS guy who has just got into PC gaming. I bought a Series X (having dabbled a little with the 360 back in the day) this gen and had a good time. Then finally bought a PS5. I enjoyed Xbox but I’m in the UK and it’s dead here. No advertising. After Xbox started porting their games and the future in Europe seemed bleak I found myself not wanting to spend any more money on 3rd party games and fully pulled out. I’ve got GP on PC until next year. For me, Xbox massively changed after the huge merger. I said people may regret it and everyone laughed at the CMA blah blah.
Best thing all round is that Microsoft Gaming goes full slate.
Re: Phil Spencer On Game Exclusivity: 'We Have To Anticipate There's Going To Be More Change'
Go #FullSlate
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Preview - MachineGames' Latest Xbox Adventure Is Looking Whip-Smart
@mac_da_man and maybe this is exactly the strategy now. Likes of you and I will play this on GP (PC/Series S) and then likely buy on PS5. Keeps GP customers happy enough and then cash in on full PS5 sales etc. It’s logical from a financial stsndpoint.
I personally don’t see how GP is sustainable with day 1 AAA games without sub rises and or more customers but that’s a debate for another time countless threads ago…
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Hits Xbox This December, And A PS5 Port Is Officially Coming
@InterceptorAlpha I agree. In terms of console numbers, Xbox aren’t a competition for Sony, but Sony have been poor this gen so without any competition it’s horrific to think what Sony might do…
Sony sell the consoles and Microsoft (imo) are starting to make the best games. Pretty good partnership.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Preview - MachineGames' Latest Xbox Adventure Is Looking Whip-Smart
In all seriousness I think this game looks amazing. I like the first person too. Can’t wait to be completely honest. It’s Indy, everyone should get to play this.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Hits Xbox This December, And A PS5 Port Is Officially Coming
@NEStalgia Ex-Box. That’s cold.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Preview - MachineGames' Latest Xbox Adventure Is Looking Whip-Smart
@Fiendish-Beaver Liam Neeson needs to go look for Phil.
Re: Rumour Claims Indiana Jones Will Jump From Xbox To PS5 In Early 2025
It’s well naughty that the biggest announcement of Indy tonight was literallly… [drumroll] PlayStation 5.
Re: Xbox Teases 'More Than A Few Surprises' For This Week's Gamescom Livestreams
Shame Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo don’t make one console!
Re: Xbox Teases 'More Than A Few Surprises' For This Week's Gamescom Livestreams
@MjJmediablogger I can see both sides. It’s a kick in the teeth to loyal customers but ultimately Xbox won’t win the console war/be viable in 3rd place. They’ve such a huge catalogue of IP why not sell it? I’d love FH5 on PS5.
But it comes at a cost… why buy an Xbox at all? I think that’s their strategy to move out of hardware and they know how to make money so they must know.
[Don’t mention Windows Phone]
Re: Xbox Teases 'More Than A Few Surprises' For This Week's Gamescom Livestreams
@Grumblevolcano fair enough. Thanks.
Re: Xbox Teases 'More Than A Few Surprises' For This Week's Gamescom Livestreams
@MjJmediablogger sounds like it? Why talk about Forza Horizon 5 in 2024 otherwise? Got to be at least one of the ports right?
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Forza Horizon 4 Before It Gets Delisted On Xbox?
@pepsilover2008 thanks. I’ve got it on Xbox app but I’d prefer Steam.
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Forza Horizon 4 Before It Gets Delisted On Xbox?
@pepsilover2008 how does it play on deck??? Not verified?
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Forza Horizon 4 Before It Gets Delisted On Xbox?
Yes bought Ultimate on PC for a few £££ with a personalised offer. Amazing game.
Re: Rumour: Xbox To Announce 'Big' Game For PS5 Next Week
One positive spin on all this is that there are fantastic Xbox games such as Forza Horizon, Gears, Halo, Flight Sim, Age of Empires and more that would make so much money for Microsoft on PS. Phil said they can’t win any console war (have they tried?) so I say port everything at this point. PS gamers are in for a real treat with fantastic games. I know it’s a kick in the teeth to long time Xbox fans but it’s reality and may secure the brand’s future if you know what I mean? Being a massive publisher with some sort of small console platform footprint mixed with PC and phone etc seems viable to me in the circs.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Studio Tango Gameworks Revived, Acquired By PUBG Publisher
@TheSimulator I guess they’ve gone all in on big money franchises now like Call of Duty. I understand that as they need to make zillions back. What seemed disingenuous though was when someone at Xbox I think said that Hi Fi was a Game Pass gem or something? And then Booty coldly pulled the trigger. Call of Booty style (we doing that?)
I guess Microsoft just doesn’t have the time for this type of game with little returns? Crazy it was an Xbox exclusive too and well thought of.
On the plus side it’s such a nice story that the studio is back open as many people seemed upset that it closed and Hi Fi died with jobs lost. I’ve actually bought the game today on the Deck for £6!
Re: Soapbox: If You Like GTA, You've Got To Try Mafia: Definitive Edition On Xbox Game Pass
@GotRedOnMe73 it is fantastic so enjoy. It’s absolutely nothing like GTA. At all. Best on PC to be honest as 30fps sucks on console. Real shame. Fantastic game though. Good acting and characters and gorgeous cars and locales.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Studio Tango Gameworks Revived, Acquired By PUBG Publisher
@TheSimulator maybe they are not. Maybe Microsoft Gaming is acquiring Krafton 😂🤣
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi Rush Studio Tango Gameworks Revived, Acquired By PUBG Publisher
@xboxjapanfan not sure what you mean? Xbox owned the studio and closed it. I’m glad to see these people will have jobs again. Keep meaning to pull the trigger on Hi Fi Rush on Steam Deck for £6.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In September 2024 So Far
Age of Mythology looks very good and Ara looks intriguing. Good month.
Re: Xbox Attracts Controversy Over New McDonald's Ad On The Dashboard
@WhiteRabbit 100%. The Game Pass Tears keep coming!
Re: Xbox Attracts Controversy Over New McDonald's Ad On The Dashboard
This is why I tapped out of the Series X and running down my GPU sub on PC. Unbelievable. 😭
“Baba, baba, baa! Done with it!”
Re: Capcom Drops Extended Look At Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster Ahead Of September Launch
@OldGamer999 don’t say that on Push… great offence will be taken by the PlasticStation elite. 😂
I don’t mind some remakes such as the excellent RE series especially 4 but everything is cross gen, remasters and annual sports games. Hardly a great advert to buy a 30 teraflop Pro.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Is Nerfing Its 'Weekly Console Bonus' In The UK
@NEStalgia amazing!!!
Re: Microsoft Announces Xbox Series X|S Price Increase For Japan
@NEStalgia if Coke Zero can be a massive success why can’t Xbox Zero?
Re: Microsoft Announces Xbox Series X|S Price Increase For Japan
What? Price increase in a place where they don’t sell? The Series XS is just a black & white silent comedy now.
No one has seen Phil. Got to be on the way out.